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Title: Democrats long for Obama's return
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig ... mocrats-long-for-obamas-return
Published: Aug 21, 2017
Author: Amy Parnes
Post Date: 2017-08-21 07:54:30 by IbJensen
Keywords: None
Views: 295
Comments: 23

He’s been out of office for nearly eight months, but former President Barack Obama remains the Democratic Party’s best weapon for 2018.

Democrats are already nostalgic for Obama as they battle against President Trump’s agenda. When he talks, they listen, as evidenced this week by a tweet from Obama about Charlottesville that became the most popular in the history of the platform.

The tricky question now facing the party is how to use the former president on the campaign trail.

Some Democrats are pushing for Obama to have a more elevated role, but the president has made clear he is wary of sliding back into the role of party leader, which could prevent new leaders from emerging.

Democrats acknowledge that being stuck in the Obama era is a concern, but say the party can’t afford to have him on the sidelines.

“Democrats badly need Barack Obama,” said Brad Bannon, a Democratic strategist. “He offers such a vivid contrast to Trump in behavior and temperament.”

“He always sounded reasonable and acted responsibly even if you disagreed with him,” Bannon continued. “None of the potential Democratic presidential candidates have the visibility or credibility to be effective.”

Others complain Obama has been doing too little to help the party at a time when it is struggling to rebuild.

Brent Budowsky, a former Democratic aide and columnist for The Hill, said Obama “should play a far more aggressive role, starting today, to win back the House and Senate in 2018.”

“America faces an enormous political crisis and it is unconscionable how little Obama and other former top officials have done to help Democrats since Trump began his ugly abuses of power.”

“Under Obama's eight years, Democrats lost power at every level of national and state government, and Obama should feel an urgent sense of duty, especially on fundraising, and act with the fierce urgency of now and not generic promises about the future,” Budowsky added. “Obama should spend less time giving paid speeches and more time raising real money for Democrats.”

Obama is expected to campaign for Democrats beginning this fall, allies close to the president said. But his reemergence will a “delicate dance” as one aide told The Hill last week.

The former president has already been involved in fundraising efforts and has met with party leaders and held private meetings with lawmakers seeking advice.

Obama’s top aides will huddle with him in the next several weeks to plan his fall schedule. And while his allies say he will play an active role in assisting the Democratic Party, much of the work will be out of public view.

One reason for the behind-the-scenes role is to keep the president from becoming a foil to Trump and Republicans, allies say.

“The s--t is hitting the fan on the other side,” one former senior administration official said. “Why play the foil?”

Democratic strategist Christy Setzer agreed, saying while the Democratic nostalgia is “deep and real,” it isn’t wise to have Obama become Trump’s sparring partner.

“For Democrats, never has the contrast been stronger between what we just gave up and what we have now,” Setzer said.

But she added that for potential 2020 candidates like Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) or Cory Booker (D-N.J.) to truly move into the political spotlight, “Obama has to remain in the shadows.”

While Democrats may be in a different place a year from now, she added, “right now, we’re still trying to figure out who the next leaders of the party are. Until that’s more clear, Obama can’t be as prominent.”

But Obama’s Charlottesville tweet this week — which featured a quote from Nelson Mandela’s autobiography “Long Walk to Freedom,” in three separate messages — made clear Democrats long for the leader they already know.

“I think a lot of Democrats are really missing him,” the former senior administration official said. “I think that’s pretty evident.”


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They yearn for the anti-Trump; a poor imitation of a man and of our current AMERICAN president1

They yearn for the days when this phony was making the most progress by completely ruining this nation which was being reduced to pitiful status Just think what these lobotomized Obama crazies miss:

Obama's election was a sad day for Americans when they realized that the first negro president will be judged in history as the most inept, corrupt, wasteful, subversive, destructive and divisive president ever.

Here was a shadow of a human being twice elected because of the color of his skin rather than the content of his character.

This phony mystery figure was a stoner Marxist thug in his youth, but he commanded the U. S. military and sent our young men to the cemetery through his silly-assed insane liberal views of engagement.

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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)

I expect 0bama will still be sniping at Trump from the sidelines.

They'll use him to try to drive up minority voter turnout. But he couldn't do that in either of his midterms as president so why do they think he can do it now?

Their fundraising is really bad, taking in less than half of what the GOP is and the DNC is still in debt. One place they will use him is for fundraisers with the Dem tycoons. They'll have to cough up the big dough in private parties to hobnob with 0bongo.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   9:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative, IbJensen (#1)

Whats to stop Obummer from running next time? His ego is twice Trumps and thats huge.

You know white guilt is a deadly thing. White guilt has elected Obummer twice. Could there be a third?

Justified  posted on  2017-08-21   9:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Justified (#2)

I NEVER felt guilty, I only felt distrust of Negros and their Democrat-communist friends who used them time and time again. Nothing changes with this segment of our population. They still sell and buy narcotics, go jobless their entire worthless lives and live off what Uncle Whiskers provides them forever.

The fathers generally move on after the breed cow has delivered a passel of future deadbeats to impregnate more stupid women who bear idiots.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2017-08-21   10:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Justified (#2)

0bama served two full terms, he is now ineligible to serve even one more day as prez.

Because of succession law, someone like LBJ could succeed to the presidency as LBJ did and still serve two more terms of their own. If a VP serves less than two years as prez after replacing his president, he can serve the two years plus two full terms of his own, 10 years total.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   10:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IbJensen (#0)

He’s been out of office for nearly eight months, but former President Barack Obama remains the Democratic Party’s best weapon for 2018.

Democrats are already nostalgic for Obama as they battle against President Trump’s agenda. When he talks, they listen, as evidenced this week by a tweet from Obama about Charlottesville that became the most popular in the history of the platform.

With any luck at all,this will have 2-time loser Bubbette! stroking out.

BTW,them dreaming of the return of Bathhouse Barry doesn't mean anything because they are like children,and love anybody that tells then what they want to hear.

Providing the person telling them the popular lies isn't a drunk in a baggy pantsuit screaming at them in a voice that shatters glass,that is.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-08-21   10:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Justified (#2)

Whats to stop Obummer from running next time?

The law that limits a President to two terms.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-08-21   10:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: IbJensen (#0)

He’s been out of office for nearly eight months, but former President Barack Obama remains the Democratic Party’s best weapon for 2018.

Hell, he was their best weapon in 2016. The Obama legacy is 15 Democratic governors.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-21   14:27:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete, Tooconservative, IbJensen, nolu chan (#6)

The law that limits a President to two terms.

I thought it was two consecutive terms but someone could run twice and then skip and then run again? Im no expert. I just remember this from somewhere.

Justified  posted on  2017-08-21   21:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Justified, sneakypete, nolu chan (#8) (Edited)

After WW II, Republicans wanted to make sure no one could be elected prez more than twice. FDR broke the tradition of two terms only.

So they passed the 22nd Amendment.

Wiki: Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution

The Twenty-second Amendment (Amendment XXII) of the United States Constitution sets a term limit for election and overall time of service to the office of President of the United States. Congress passed the amendment on March 21, 1947. Ratification by the requisite 36 of the then-48 states was completed on February 27, 1951.



Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.

Nolu could undoubtedly provide much more but this seems to address your question.

As a side note, Truman was VP for only 82 days when FDR died so, had this amendment already been in effect at that time, Truman would have been ineligible to run for a second term of his own. This is why there is a specific exception in the amendment which could only have applied to Truman. And it did. Truman was the last president who was eligible to serve more than 10 years because he was "grandfathered in" as a sitting prez prior to the 22nd being ratified.

In 1951, the U.S. ratified the 22nd Amendment, making a president ineligible for election to a third term or for election to a second full term after serving more than two remaining years of a term of a previously elected president. The latter clause would have applied to Truman's situation in 1952 except that a grandfather clause in the amendment explicitly excluded the amendment from applying to the incumbent president.[218]

At the time of the 1952 New Hampshire primary, no candidate had won Truman's backing. His first choice, Chief Justice Fred M. Vinson, had declined to run; Illinois Governor Adlai Stevenson had also turned Truman down, Vice President Barkley was considered too old,[219][220] and Truman distrusted and disliked Senator Kefauver, who had made a name for himself by his investigations of the Truman administration scandals. Truman had hoped to recruit General Eisenhower as a Democratic candidate, but found him more interested in seeking the Republican nomination. Accordingly, Truman let his name be entered in the New Hampshire primary by supporters. The highly unpopular Truman was handily defeated by Kefauver; 18 days later the president announced he would not seek a second full term. Truman was eventually able to persuade Stevenson to run, and the governor gained the nomination at the 1952 Democratic National Convention.[221]

OTOH, LBJ only served 1 year and 59 days of JFK's term so he was fully eligible to run for two terms of his own, although he declined to run for a second term, fearing Bobby Kennedy would humiliate him.

Probably only nolu and I are boring enough to care about the 22nd and Truman. Sorry if I rambled on too long.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   22:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#9)

Nolu could undoubtedly provide much more but this seems to address your question.

Actually, I saw your #4 earlier and thought you stated what was in the 22nd Amdt accurately. The only thing to add was the citation to the Constitution. I can add a bit of trivia. FDR was not the first to seek a third term. Grant was elected in 1868 and 1872, left office in 1877, and sought the office again in 1880 but failed to win the nomination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1880_Republican_National_Convention

The 1880 Republican National Convention convened from June 2 to June 8, 1880, at the Interstate Exposition Building in Chicago, Illinois, United States, and nominated Representative James A. Garfield of Ohio and Chester A. Arthur of New York as the official candidates of the Republican Party for President and Vice President, respectively, in the 1880 presidential election.

Of the 14 men in contention for the Republican nomination, the three strongest candidates leading up to the convention were Ulysses S. Grant, James G. Blaine, and John Sherman. Grant had served two terms as President from 1869 to 1877, and was seeking an unprecedented third term in office. He was backed by the Stalwart faction of the Republican Party, which supported political machines and patronage. Blaine was a senator and former representative from Maine who was backed by the Half-Breed faction of the Republican Party. Sherman, the brother of Civil War General William Tecumseh Sherman, was serving as Secretary of the Treasury under President Rutherford B. Hayes. A former senator from Ohio, he was backed by delegates who did not support the Stalwarts or Half-Breeds.

On the first ballot, Sherman received 93 votes, while Grant and Blaine had 304 and 285, respectively. With 379 votes required to win the nomination, none of the candidates was close to victory, and the balloting continued. After the thirty-fifth ballot, Blaine and Sherman switched their support to a new "dark horse" candidate, James Garfield. On the next ballot, Garfield won the nomination by receiving 399 votes, 93 higher than Grant's total.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-21   22:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu chan (#10)

Grant was elected in 1868 and 1872, left office in 1877, and sought the office again in 1880 but failed to win the nomination.

I had no idea he'd made the attempt.

Must have humiliated him after they railroaded him out of the nomination.

We tend to forget just how popular Grant was back in the day.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   22:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: IbJensen (#3)

I NEVER felt guilty, I only felt distrust of Negros and their Democrat-communist friends who used them time and time again. Nothing changes with this segment of our population. They still sell and buy narcotics, go jobless their entire worthless lives and live off what Uncle Whiskers provides them forever.

The fathers generally move on after the breed cow has delivered a passel of future deadbeats to impregnate more stupid women who bear idiots.

And the result is a 73% out of wedlock birth rate.

I like your attitude and perceptive capacity.

rlk  posted on  2017-08-21   23:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#5)

With any luck at all,this will have 2-time loser Bubbette! stroking out.

She'll never quit. Neither will her supporters.

rlk  posted on  2017-08-22   0:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: rlk, sneakypete (#13)

She'll never quit. Neither will her supporters.

The base of the Democratic Party has moved on to Bernie and Pocahontas.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-22   1:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nolu chan (#14)

The base of the Democratic Party has moved on to Bernie and Pocahontas.

But they terrify the Dem donor base on Wall Street and many more in Silicon Valley and Hollyweird.

We can only hope the Xlintons will return to battle the Bernie bros again in 2020, maybe with a Biden thrown in the mix. Unfortunately, I think the Xlintons are done, at least until Chelsea Hubbell tries to run for something.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-22   6:58:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: nolu chan, rlk (#14) (Edited)

She'll never quit. Neither will her supporters.

The base of the Democratic Party has moved on to Bernie and Pocahontas.

I thought that too,and then the alleged ANTI FASCIST,in reality Fascist Hard Left,showed up,and you don't have to be a psychic to figure out who is behind them.

Bernie and his masses represent the "kinder,gentler faces of socialism",such as seen in Scandinavia. The plan on converting you using bunny kisses and warm hugs.

The alleged Anti-Fascists represent the hard left Stalin approach to socialism,and there is no shortage of college-indoctrinated useful tools out there to help them,not to mention embedded hard left Dims like McAuliffe.

They plan on converting you,and The Bernie Bunch at bayonet point,and if history is any indication,the Bernie Bunch will be the first to face the firing squads.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-08-22   10:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: IbJensen (#0)

I hope Trump applies a cattle prod to Sessions' ass so that next year the only thing Odumbass will be gasbagging about is his lame defense against indictment for his domestic-spying scandal.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-08-22   11:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete, nolu chan (#16) (Edited)

I tend to think that the Bernie bros and Fauxcahontas actually would help Joe Biden in the Dem primaries. He's more popular, far less threatening to donors, was the second-most Left voter in the Senate (0bama being #1) and yet he comes off as non-threatening to Wall Street, Silicon Valley and Hollyweird. He'll be assumed to be qualified as a sitting VP and as a senator who chaired most of the Senate's most important committees. And the public doesn't seem to mind all his gaffes either. After 4 years of Trump, Biden will look downright discreet and eloquent.

Biden's old but I wouldn't count him out just yet.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-22   19:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#16)

They plan on converting you,and The Bernie Bunch at bayonet point,and if history is any indication,the Bernie Bunch will be the first to face the firing squads.

Pocahontas will be their candidate of choice for the future. They were the Bernie supporters last year.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-22   19:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: nolu chan (#19)

Pocahontas will be their candidate of choice for the future. They were the Bernie supporters last year.

Wall Street hates her, maybe even more than Bernie Sanders.

She's an old white woman with no personality or charisma who is a fake Indian. And the big Dem donors on Wall Street won't back her.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-23   5:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Tooconservative (#20)

She's an old white woman with no personality or charisma who is a fake Indian. And the big Dem donors on Wall Street won't back her.

The AntiFa crowd will support Elizabeth Warren. They are the Occupy Wall St. crowd, and the bat wielding, piss throwing goons today.

The far left is seizing political control of the Democratic party. The Debbie Wasserman Schultz DNC has lost all credibility. Tom Perez is not exactly a charismatic leader. The party elite have lost control. Hillary and $1B couldn't get the left wing vote.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-24   1:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: nolu chan (#21)

The far left is seizing political control of the Democratic party.

The far Left is nowhere close to a majority of the Dem party. No more than the alt-Right can be considered as anything more than a tiny but vocal minority in the GOP ranks.

You don't win elections that way, at least not enough to rule.

America does not want McGovernism now any more than it did in 1972.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-24   11:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Tooconservative (#22)

The far Left is nowhere close to a majority of the Dem party.

Who are the current leaders of the party?

Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Tom Perez, Nancy Pelosi, and Charles Schumer it ain't.

The party is split and Elizabeth Warren is the most visible and viable leader on the horizon.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-24   19:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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