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Title: CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed: 'We Blew Up WTC7 On 9/11'
Source: Your News Wire
URL Source: http://yournewswire.com/cia-911-wtc7/
Published: Jul 15, 2017
Author: Baxter Dmitry
Post Date: 2017-07-15 11:46:40 by Hondo68
Keywords: Follow the money, classic controlled demolition, many loose ends
Views: 45447
Comments: 108

CIA agent confesses to blowing up WTC7 on 9/11

79-year-old retired CIA agent, Malcom Howard, has made a series of astonishing claims since being released from hospital in New Jersey on Friday and told he has weeks to live. Mr. Howard claims he was involved in the “controlled demolition” of World Trade Center 7, the third building that was destroyed on 9/11.

Mr. Howard, who worked for the CIA for 36 years as an operative, claims he was tapped by senior CIA agents to work on the project due to his engineering background, and early career in the demolition business.

Trained as a civil engineer, Mr. Howard became an explosives expert after being headhunted by the CIA in early 1980s. Mr. Howard says has extensive experience in planting explosives in items as small as cigarette lighters and as large as “80 floor buildings.

The 79-year-old New Jersey native says he worked on the CIA operation they dubbed “New Century” between May 1997 and September 2001, during a time he says the CIA “was still taking orders from the top.” Mr. Howard says he was part of a cell of 4 operatives tasked with ensuring the demolition was successful.

Mr. Howard says the World Trade Center 7 operation is unique among his demolitions, as it is the only demolition that “we had to pretend wasn’t a demolition job”. He claims he had no problem going through with the deception at the time, because “when you are a patriot, you don’t question the motivation of the CIA or the White House. You assume the bigger purpose is for a greater good. They pick good, loyal people like me, and it breaks my heart to hear the shit talk.

[John Kerry Admits WTC 7 Was Brought Down By Controlled Demolition]

But even he admits that now, looking back, “Something wasn’t right.”

No good has come from this. This isn’t the America we envisioned.”

Explaining how the building was bought down, Mr. Howard says, “It was a classic controlled demolition with explosives. We used super-fine military grade nanothermite composite materials as explosives. The hard part was getting thousands of pounds of explosives, fuses and ignition mechanisms into the building without causing too much concern. But almost every single office in the Building 7 was rented by the CIA, the Secret Service, or the military, which made it easier.

Mr. Howard explains that WTC 7 was “loaded with explosives in strategic places” in the month leading up to the day that changed the course of American history. On September 11th, while the North and South towers burned, fuses were ignited in World Trade Center 7, and nanothermite explosions hollowed out the building, destroying the steel structure, removing the reinforcements, and allowing the office fires to tear through the rest of the building, hollowing it out like a shell.

World Trade Center 7 collapsed into its own footprint at 5:20pm, seven hours after the destruction of WTC 1 and 2. The building shocked witnesses by coming down at the speed of freefall, indicating that it encountered zero resistance on the way down.

Mr. Howard and his colleagues had done their job.

When the building came down, it was such a rush. Everything went exactly to plan. It was so smooth. Everybody was evacuated. Nobody was hurt in WTC 7. We were celebrating. We kept watching replays of the demolition, we had the whiskey and cigars out, and then all of a sudden the strangest thing happened. We all started to worry that it looked a bit too smooth. We watched the tape again and again and again and we started to get paranoid. It looked like a controlled demolition. We thought shit, people are going to question this. And then we heard that people from the street were reporting that they heard the explosions during the afternoon. When we were told that the BBC botched their report and announced to the world that the building collapsed 20 minutes before it actually did… At that point we really thought the gig was up.”

According to the official 9/11 report issued by the government, WTC 7 collapsed due to “uncontrolled fires” that were caused by debris that floated over from WTC 1 and 2, which had been hit by passenger planes. If the official narrative was true, WTC 7 would be the first tall building in the world to ever collapse due to uncontrolled fires, and the only steel skyscraper in the world to have collapsed into itself, due to “office fires.”

Mr. Howard and his colleagues feared the public would see through the official narrative and rise up against the government, demanding to be told the truth.

There were so many loose ends, so much evidence left behind. We thought the public would be all over it. We thought there would be a public uprising that the media couldn’t ignore. They’d be funding investigations and demanding to know why they were being lied to. We thought they’d find chemical composites in the area that would prove Building 7 was blown up.

“We thought there would be a revolution. It would go all the way to the top, to President Bush. He’d be dragged out of the White House.

“But none of that happened. Almost nobody questioned anything. The media shot down anyone who dared question anything they were told.”

Follow the money

Mr. Howard claims he has “no direct knowledge” about the destruction of North and South Towers of the World Trade Center, explaining that “CIA operations are very specific” and that it is common to be working on a larger project while only understanding a small piece of the puzzle.

[9/11: Larry Silverstein Designed New WTC-7 One Year Before Attacks]

But he has advice for investigators seeking to understand the entire puzzle and work out who was behind the most devastating attack on American soil in history.

Follow the money.”

When you want to find out who is behind something, just follow the money. Look at the trades made just before 9/11. These are the guys that knew what was coming. The sons of CIA agents, government officials. Close relatives of the most powerful men in America. Cheney, Rumsfeld. They all got rich. It wasn’t just the contracts awarded to their friends in the construction business and the wars and the kickbacks.”

“It was insider trading.”

Many countries including Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Monaco launched insider trading investigations in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, believing that if they could prove Al-Qaeda operatives profited on the stock market then they could prove the terror organization was behind the attacks.

And all the evidence pointed to heavy insider trading around 9/11.

Italy’s foreign minister, Antonio Martino, said: “I think that there are terrorist states and organizations behind speculation on the international markets.” German central bank president, Ernst Welteke, said his researchers had found “almost irrefutable proof of insider trading.”

Even CNN reported that regulators were seeing “ever-clearer signs” that someone “manipulated financial markets ahead of the terror attack in the hope of profiting from it.

Mr. Howard says that a serious study of who profited on the stock market from 9/11 would “tear the heart out of the oligarchy in America.

There is only one organization that spans the entire world, and let me tell you now, it isn’t and it never was al-Qaeda.

It’s the CIA.

There could never be a real investigation. The entire shadow government, as you call them now, are implicated.”

The 79-year-old, spending his final weeks at home, said he doesn’t expect to be taken into custody following his confession because “then they’d have to go after everyone else. They will just use the media to attack me. They are all on the payroll to suppress everything around 9/11.” (1 image)

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#27. To: hondo68, ALL (#0) (Edited)

*SHOCK!!!*

You mean WTC 7 *didn't* come crashing down within its footprint after all?? You mean it wasn't actually a casualty from being "weakened by fire and debris"??

HA!! LOVE ANY confession/admission from Spooks -- even on their Highway-to-Hell death-bed.

Spook: “There were so many loose ends, so much evidence left behind. We thought the public would be all over it. We thought there would be a public uprising THAT THE MEDIA COULDN'T IGNORE.... We thought they’d find chemical composites in the area that would prove Building 7 was blown up."

Uh, um, yes...in an America world that ISN'T ALREADY hijacked.

Well about "The Media"....They *tried* to report honestly -- especially with respect to Building 7 coming down 20 minutes BEFORE it actually came down. But who can blame them for messing up their scripts that day?

How funny were the lines, ["We left] so much evidence left behind [that] we thought the public would be all over it. [And that] there would be a public uprising THAT THE MEDIA COULDN'T IGNORE."??

HA!!

So what are the Spooks gonna do now? Shut up a cadaver??

Gee, let's play "PREDICT THE FUTURE": I predict this guy's ID and every last vestige and verification of his existence is already scrubbed. As well of "confirmed" claims that he's a certifiable nut.

"FOLLOW THE MONEY"...Mr. Howard says that a serious study of who profited on the stock market from 9/11 would “tear the heart out of the oligarchy in America.”

A "serious" study"? Even cursory study of Poppy Bush's fake Iraq War I to 9/11 to 0bammy's buried dossier to the current not-so-soft-coup would expose this shadow goob and its shadow army of mercs as filthy, satanic traitors and saboteurs.

Let's face it, many well-meaning people -- patriots and incredible analytic minds -- can't and won't ever be able to wrap their head around the notion that mercenary Global-First Enemies Within plotted, *enabled*, engineered, and conducted the entire WTC take down, as well as the Pentagram Job. The Muzzies were convenient patsies. (btw, the Patriot Act was enacted 17 days after 9/11. Already conveniently penned, sitting in an "OUT" basket and jammed down America's throat WITHOUT ANYONE READING IT!! Ergo THE template of no longer examining bills was established.

After how they (the Media and the bi-partisan Globalist Firsters) have lied and gone after Trump, how can ANY one believe ANYTHING this Media and gubmint (and all its tentacles) have fed you in the past?

Liberator  posted on  2017-07-16   13:09:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator (#27)

How funny were the lines, ["We left] so much evidence left behind [that] we thought the public would be all over it. [And that] there would be a public uprising THAT THE MEDIA COULDN'T IGNORE."??

But wait a second. Wasn't this guy trained as a CIA demolitions expert with access to all their best explosives and accessory gear?

Why no info on the explosives, the detonators, the arming and detonation sequences, the placement of the charges, how they managed to enter secure buildings to do the demolition work, etc.?

It's not a credible account. There's almost nothing there offered as evidence.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-16   13:52:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Tooconservative (#30) (Edited)

There's almost nothing there offered as evidence.

I would like to see ANY evidence for ANY plausible cause. You said fire from the two towers did it - can you point to any evidence, I mean the evidence as opposed to bare assertions?

Or is it like with hound of the Baskervilles that did not bark? Or criminal case where all fingerprints are wiped out from the gun?

A Pole  posted on  2017-07-16   16:01:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A Pole (#33)

I would like to see ANY evidence for ANY plausible cause. You said fire from the two towers did it - can you point to any evidence, I mean the evidence as opposed to bare assertions?

I said those were just my thoughts. I'm not starting my own Truther movement at all. I mentioned it because it is an explanation that you never hear and yet it is hardly unheard of for big NYC building projects to be completed with terrible quality construction materials due to graft and corruption and fraud. NYC is notorious for it. And if we listen to Occam, don't we have to consider bad materials and poorly executed designs to be just as likely as our own government deciding to murder thousands of its own citizens so it can gin up a war in the Mideast? Occam tells us both are relatively simple propositions. If anything, the MIHOP Truther theory is far far more complex than my simple proposal of bad building materials and inadequate build quality.

The real topic here is this supposed ex-CIA demolitions specialist who doesn't seem to know anything about the details of his own demolition of WTC 7 in the greatest act of treason in the country's history and the worst attack on American soil.

But, no, you're ready to believe him with no proof at all. It's a completely fact-free account. It really amounts to a kind of Truther religious belief, a matter of faith, not facts.

How do you know he even worked for the CIA? For that matter, if you're a mega-Truther and all more-Truthy-than-thou and stuff, how do you know this guy isn't a CIA ringer being sent out to make this big announcement just so he can be discredited and make all the sincere Truthers look like complete fools?

Do you really want to believe something like this so badly that you will suspend all sense of judgment and reasonable standards for evidence and testimony just so you can cling to this old attention whore geezer and his phony "deathbed confession" (which it wasn't because he got so much better that they released from the hospital and he's out tooling around Jersey now)?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-16   16:33:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Tooconservative (#35)

I said those were just my thoughts. ... And if we listen to Occam, don't we have to consider ...

You misunderstand Occam. He did not say that the simplest explanation is true. He said that if two theories explain something equally well, we should pick the simpler one (what is a very common sense thing). When a new fact appears that makes these two theories not equally good, we should pick the better one no matter if more complex.

I would like first to see some explanation that makes sense. Your thoughts on the remote fire ie theory (theories are thoughts) do not seem more plausible to me than others.

Now, for the full disclosure, I have no clue what really happened. Maybe because I did not do my homework.

A Pole  posted on  2017-07-16   18:58:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A Pole (#37)

You misunderstand Occam. He did not say that the simplest explanation is true. He said that if two theories explain something equally well, we should pick the simpler one (what is a very common sense thing). When a new fact appears that makes these two theories not equally good, we should pick the better one no matter if more complex.

All three theories offered are about equally simple or plausible so Occam doesn't help us much.

I brought Occam in to point out that my theory is no more complex and therefore no more unlikely than the official explanation or the MIHOP/LIHOP Trutheries.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-17   9:07:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Tooconservative (#38) (Edited)

I brought Occam

What about such theory - there were 4 planes and three buildings to go down (one plane was a reserve). But only two planes came so it took time for the third building to be destroyed. Otherwise all three would go in the same time.

Is it simpler, Sir? ;)

A Pole  posted on  2017-07-17   12:49:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A Pole (#43)

Is it simpler, Sir? ;)

If we start heading for the weeds, then all of these theories fail the simpler-is-better-or-most-plausible test (or however you wish to state it).

You know you're starting to beat a dead horse here because you have no conclusive evidence to offer. Nor do I. What we have are suspicions.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-17   13:04:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Tooconservative (#47)

You know you're starting to beat a dead horse here because you have no conclusive evidence to offer.

There is plenty of evidence that thermate (a type of thermite) was used to bring the buildings down. That you haven't made the effort to study it is not conclusive. So far what I've seen is that your knowledge of anything is 5 minutes on Google deep.

Nor do I.

Yet you blow and blow.

Anthem  posted on  2017-07-17   13:42:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Anthem, Tooconservative (#50)

There is plenty of evidence that thermate (a type of thermite) was used to bring the buildings down.

A difficulty with a thermate theory is the synchronization needed on every floor to achieve a vertical drop into the building's own footprint. Unless the resistance at each floor is uniform on all sides (or removed), the descending part will tend to shunt off to the least resistant side.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-07-17   23:41:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: nolu chan (#60) (Edited)

A difficulty with a thermate theory is the synchronization needed on every floor to achieve a vertical drop into the building's own footprint.
It is not a difficulty. I saw your comments above, which are consistent with a controlled demolition. Thermate residue* found on the building remains and on cars in the surrounding area is a part of the evidence.

The link I posted above has two of Prof. Jones' papers. I have five reports he wrote from his analysis / experiments.

Edit: residue is the wrong word, tho it conveys the meaning. I am referring to the deposits of burned thermate on surfaces as evinced by the effects of it on those surfaces.

Anthem  posted on  2017-07-17   23:55:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Anthem, Tooconservative (#62)

Reply Anthem #62 re 9-11, Steven Jones

It is not a difficulty. I saw your comments above, which are consistent with a controlled demolition. Thermate residue* found on the building remains and on cars in the surrounding area is a part of the evidence.

My comments pointed to the problems with any offered collapse mechanism being consistent with the observed phenomena and the laws of physics. The buildings appear to have been brought down, but the mechanism is not clear.

The problem with thermate is how to cut the columns or beams on all sides at the same time with time synchronization to within a fraction of a second. Thermate is a pyrotechnic. It burns through steel. It is not normally used in controlled collapse. As far as I can tell, it is unusable as the primary agent. Dr. Jones does not claim that any building was brought down primarily by thermate. Explosives are used which cause structural failure of a column in a fraction of a second. A heat source is not as predictable on the timing of structural failure of columns on all sides of a building on multiple floors. Miss one by a little bit and the whole thing shunts sideways. That is why explosives are used.

Thermate residue* found on the building remains and on cars in the surrounding area is a part of the evidence.

This is part of speculation, never established as fact.

The link I posted above has two of Prof. Jones' papers. I have five reports he wrote from his analysis / experiments.

I am very familiar with Dr. Jones and his papers.

His research paper, "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?" was first posted as a full professor of physics at BYU on his physics department website. BYU announced a review. Jones took down the article on September 7, 2006 and resigned on January 1, 2007.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones

On September 22, 2005 Jones presented his views on the collapse of the World Trade Center towers and World Trade Center 7 at a BYU seminar attended by approximately 60 people. Jones claimed that a variety of evidence defies the mainstream collapse theory and favors controlled demolition, using thermite. The evidence Jones cited included the speed and symmetry of the collapses, and characteristics of dust jets. Later, Jones claimed he had identified grey/red flakes found in the dust as nanothermite traces. He has also claimed that the thermite reaction products (aluminium oxide and iron-rich microspheres) were also found in the dust. He called for further scientific investigation to test the controlled demolition theory and the release of all relevant data by the government. Shortly after the seminar, Jones placed a research paper entitled "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?" on his page in the Physics department Web site, noting that BYU had no responsibility for the paper.

Jones subsequently presented the WTC research in lectures at Idaho State University, Utah Valley State College, University of Colorado at Boulder and University of Denver, the Utah Academy of Science, Sonoma State University, University of California at Berkeley, and the University of Texas at Austin.

On September 7, 2006, Jones removed his paper from BYU's website at the request of administrators and was placed on paid leave. The university cited its concern about the "increasingly speculative and accusatory nature" of Jones' work and that perhaps Jones' research had "not been published in appropriate scientific venues" as reasons for putting him under review. The review was to have been conducted at three levels: BYU administration, the College of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, and the Physics Department. However, BYU discontinued the review. Some of Jones' colleagues also defended Jones' 9/11 work to varying degrees, and Project Censored lists his 9/11 research among the top mainstream media censored stories of 2007.

Jones' placement on paid leave drew criticism from the American Association of University Professors and the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. Both organizations have long been critics of BYU's record on academic freedom. Jones "welcomed the review" because he hoped it would "encourage people to read his paper for themselves," however the school abandoned the review and Jones elected to retire, effective January 1, 2007.

Dr. Jones revised study paper does not claim demolition by thermate/pryotechnics. He hypothesises that a combination of explosives and incendaries were used on the core columns on lower floors, and cutting charges were detonated up higher. Regarding 7WTC, Dr. Jones argues for a serious investigation that it was brought down by pre-positioned cutter-charges; i.e., explosives. For 1WTC and 2WTC he argues for the ancillary use of thermate on the lower floors in addition to the primary use of explosives.

The requisite precise timing cannot be achieved with incendaries. He claims incendaries were used to weaken the columns and explosives to achieve actual structural failure.

His paper further asserts that his hypotheses deserve thorough scientific scrutiny. Such assertion openly declares that the hypothesis has not received thorough scientific scrutiny at the time asserted.

At page 1 of Dr. Jones' revised study paper, the abstract states,

ABSTRACT

In this paper, I call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that WTC 7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fires, but through the use of pre-positioned cutter-charges.

At page 42 of his revised study paper, Dr. Jones states,

Remarkably, the controlled demolition hypothesis accounts for all the available data rather easily. The core columns on lower floors are cut using explosives/incendiaries, near simultaneously, along with cutting charges detonated up higher so that gravity acting on now unsupported floors helps bring down the buildings quickly. The collapses are thus near symmetrical, rapid and complete, with accompanying squibs -- really very standard stuff for demolition experts. Thermate (whose end product is molten iron) used on some of the steel columns readily accounts for the molten metal which then pooled beneath the rubble piles as well as the sulfidation observed in steel from both the WTC 7 and Towers rubble piles (points 1 and 2 above). I believe this is a straightforward hypothesis, much more probable actually than the official hypothesis. It deserves thorough scientific scrutiny, beyond that which I have been able to outline in this treatise.

At page 43 of his revised study paper, Dr. Jones states,

AFTERWORD

In writing this paper, I call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that WTC7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fires, but through the carefully planned use of explosives/incendiaries. I have presented ample evidence for the controlled-demolition hypothesis, which is scientifically testable and yet has not been seriously considered in any of the studies funded by the US government.

Debunking 9/11 conspiracy theorists part 2 of 7 - Nano-thermite found in the WTC dust

[Also Dr. Steven Jones and his research paper.]

Debunking 9/11 conspiracy theorists part 3 of 7 -Thermate, thermite and glowing aluminium

nolu chan  posted on  2017-07-19   0:56:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: nolu chan (#64)

I'm just glad we finally reached the inevitable nano-thermite portion of the discussion.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-19   9:50:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Tooconservative, Anthem (#68) (Edited)

I'm just glad we finally reached the inevitable nano-thermite portion of the discussion.

Dr. Judy Wood published Where Did The Towers Go?. It does an excellent presentation of the observed phenomena from 9/11. While her directed energy weapon theory of what could account for the phenomena is controversial, to say the least, her presentation of what was observed to have happened is excellent. At page 124, she addressed "thermitic material" found in the dust.

3. "Thermitic Material" in the Dust

A report has come out stating that "thermitic material,(59) was found in dust samples from lower Manhattan after 9/11/01. The authors of the report did not say they found thermite, but only that they found "thermitic material." What is "Thermitic Material?" Presumably, the term refers to the ingredients of thermite, which is a substance made of aluminum powder and iron oxide (rust). The Twin Towers were steel structures with aluminum cladding. "Steel is a term used for iron to which between 0.02 to 1.7% carbon has been added."(60) Typical low-carbon steel (e.g. ASTM A36) contains 99% iron. We know that a large portion of the towers was turned to dust (see Chapter 9, Dustification). And iron dust in atmospheric conditions will immediately rust. So it is natural and to be expected that materials the buildings were made of would be found in the nano-dust of their remains. The surprising thing would be if this nano-dust from the buildings did not contain "thermitic material." That the article is identified as having been "peer reviewed" is intended to imply the validity of the study. However, "peer reviewed" no longer means what it once did. Shortly after Bentham published the article about "thermitic material," The Boston Globe ran a news story about a hoax submission (an article made up of nothing but computer-generated nonsense) to another Bentham journal. This second article also passed "peer review."(61, 62) Others have written about this deliberately fraudulent study.(63)

The buildings were turned to dust, and therefore the dust would be expected to contain traces of all materials that were in the buildings.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-07-19   19:06:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: nolu chan (#70)

What is "Thermitic Material?" Presumably, the term refers to the ingredients of thermite, which is a substance made of aluminum powder and iron oxide (rust).

I would read it differently. "Thermitic" suggest more general thing - thermite-like. It does not have to be aluminum and iron oxide, you need metal oxide and a substance that will binds oxygen from the oxide generating heat.

Perhaps there are more exotic non-metallic exothermic thermites?

A Pole  posted on  2017-07-20   11:52:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A Pole, Tooconservative (#72)

I would read it differently. "Thermitic" suggest more general thing - thermite-like. It does not have to be aluminum and iron oxide, you need metal oxide and a substance that will binds oxygen from the oxide generating heat.

By whatever definition, it is exceedingly difficult to see how to synchronize the failure of large steel columns with the use of heat as the primary agent.

Take the 47 Minute Building 7 Challenge!

LibertyDefender84

Published on May 16, 2015

This is a 47 minute challenge about Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper, which collapsed at 5:20pm on September 11th, 2001.

The challenge is to watch this 47 minute video and try to maintain your belief in the official story of what happened on September 11th, 2001. This is a difficult challenge because this video features testimony from Structural Engineers, Architects, Demolition Experts, and eyewitnesses who provide evidence that Building 7 collapsed as a result of a controlled demolition. After looking at the evidence, it will be challenging to maintain the belief that fire caused Building 7 to collapse in the manner that was observed.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-07-20   23:15:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: nolu chan (#73)

Take the 47 Minute Building 7 Challenge!

No thanks.

The 9/11 hucksters have re-made the same videos over and over.

If I want preaching, there's plenty of churches around here.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-21   10:38:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 74.

#75. To: Tooconservative (#74)

The 9/11 hucksters have re-made the same videos over and over.

Well, there is always the NIST report.

Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7, Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster (NIST NCSTAR 1A)

http://ws680.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861610

At page xxxvii:

Other than initiating the fires in WTC 7, the damage from the debris from WTC 1 had little effect on initiating the collapse of WTC 7. The building withstood debris impact damage that resulted in seven exterior columns being severed and subsequently withstood fires involving typical office combustibles on several floors for almost seven hours. The debris damaged the spray-applied fire resistive material that was applied to the steel columns, girders, and beams, only in the vicinity of the structural damage from the collapse of WTC 1. This was near the west side of the south face of the building and was far removed from the buckled column that initiated the collapse. Even without the structural damage, WTC 7 would have collapsed from fires having the same characteristics as those experienced on September 11, 2001. The transfer elements such as trusses, girders, and cantilever overhangs that were used to support the office building over the Con Edison substation did not play a significant role in the collapse of WTC 7.

Structural damage from debris did not cause the collapse.

NIST identifies specific fire observations and their earliest times.

"Other than initiating the fires in WTC 7, the damage from the debris from WTC 1 had little effect on initiating the collapse of WTC 7." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 194]

"A larger area of the west face near the south edge is visible in the photograph shown in Figure 5-1 10, which was taken shortly after Figure 5- 109 at 12:27:30 p.m. At this time flames were not evident in window 22-14A, but light smoke continued to flow from the window. Higher up on the face, smoke was coming from the six adjacent open windows 29-11 to 29-14A on the 29th floor, with heavy flames filling windows 29-11 and 29-12. As discussed in Section 5.5.2, the condition of windows 29-13A to 29-14A immediately following the collapse of WTC 1 could not be determined, while the glass was intact in windows 29-11 and 29-12. This suggests that the fire burning on this floor had opened windows 29-11 and 29-12 by 12:27:30 p.m." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 196]

"Prior to 12:10 p.m., there was no evidence of fire on the upper floors of WTC 7. Between 12:10 p.m. and 2:10 p.m., the only fires directly or indirectly observed were on Floors 19, 22, 29, and 30." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 194]

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"Between roughly 2:00 p.m. and the collapse of WTC 7 at 5:20:52, fires were observed spreading on the 7th floor through the 13th floor, with the exception of the 10th floor. One short video clip indicated that a small fire was present on the north side of the 14th floor shortly prior to the collapse. In the following descriptions of these fires, approximate times are used. Details are included in the previous subsection." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 243]

"7th Floor. Early indications of a developing fire were observed on the west side of the 7th floor shortly after 2:00 p.m." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 243]

"8th floor. The earliest fires observed on the 8th floor were on the north face in windows near the center of the face. As late as 3:22 p.m., there was no indication of fire in this area, but about 17 min later a substantial fire spreading to the east was visib le between windows 8-47C and 8-53C." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 243]

"9th Floor. There was no indication of fire in the available imagery on this floor until late in the day. Shortly before 4:00 p.m., a small area of fire was observed in windows 9-54A and 9-54B on the west side of the north face. There are no images suggesting how fire reached this location." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 244]

"10th Floor. No fires were observed burning on this floor." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 244]

"11th Floor. A fire was first observed on this floor at 2:08 p.m. on the east face." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 244]

"12th Floor. The first observation of a fire on the 12th floor was on the east face around 2:08 p.m." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 245]

"13th Floor. The first visual evidence for burning on the 13th floor was seen on the east face around 2:30 p.m." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 245]

"14th Floor. A low resolution image recorded around 5:03 p.m. indicated the presence of a fire between Columns 45 and 46 on the north face. Fire at this location or elsewhere on the floor was not evident in similar images recorded roughly ten minutes earlier and six minutes later. This was the only observation of a fire on this floor." [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 246]

"Fires on Other Floors. With the exception of the fires on the 19th, 22nd, 29th, and 30th floors discussed at the start of this section, there is no direct visual evidence of fires on other floors of WTC 7. Heavy smoke was observed coming from the opening created on the south face of WTC 7 by debris falling from WTC 1. This smoke suggests that internal burning was taking place, but provides little indication of specific locations. Light smoke was observed at the height of the louvers on the east side of the 5th and 6th floors around 4:10 p.m. It was not possible to identify the source of this smoke. [NIST NCSTAR 1-9, p. 246]

SOURCE: NIST NCSTAR 1-9, Volume 1

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