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Title: Trump quasi-endorses Le Pen: "She’s the strongest on what’s been going on in France"
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/ ... -strongest-whats-going-france/
Published: Apr 22, 2017
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2017-04-22 00:59:11 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 7280
Comments: 31

Coincidentally she’s also the preferred candidate of Vladimir Putin, who correctly sees in her victory not just the end of the European Union but potentially the end of NATO. His bet on Trump during the campaign hasn’t paid off for him (so far). A bet on Le Pen, replete with interference on her behalf, is a surer thing.

Trump was careful today to say he’s not formally endorsing her, knowing how that would irritate the French establishment and potentially some undecided French voters, but this is an endorsement in everything but name.
In an interview with The Associated Press, Trump said that while he is not explicitly endorsing Le Pen, the [Paris] attack [yesterday] played to her strengths.

“She’s the strongest on borders, and she’s the strongest on what’s been going on in France,” Trump said in the Oval Office interview. “Whoever is the toughest on radical Islamic terrorism, and whoever is the toughest at the borders, will do well in the election.”…

U.S. presidents typically avoid weighing in on specific candidates running in overseas election. But Trump suggested his opinion was no different from an average observer, saying, “Everybody is making predictions on who is going to win. I’m no different than you.”

I’m pretty sure his opinion counts differently than an AP reporter’s, especially when it’s published two days before the French vote. Anyway, for all of the hype lately about Steve Bannon being marginalized in the White House, this is a solid victory for him. Bannon is a Le Pen admirer and has been candid about wanting to see the nationalist tide in the U.S. and UK sweep across Europe. It’s been rough sledding lately, though, with the poor performance of Geert Wilders’s party in the Dutch elections last month and the decline of the AfD in Germany, which has been tanking in recent polls. By back-patting the National Front, Trump’s giving his nationalist base a boost and clawing back some of the credibility he’s lost with them over the last few weeks as Kushner and Cohn have nudged Bannon aside for influence.

At a minimum, nationalists want Le Pen in the top two on Sunday, which will advance her to the national runoff in two weeks. The worst-case scenario for them is that she misses the cut; the best-case is that she faces off with communist Jean-Luc Melenchon, another Putin admirer whose radicalism might push centrists into Le Pen’s camp and make her president. If her opponent is either of the two centrist candidates, Emmanuel Macron or Francois Fillon, she’s expected to lose but stands a chance. So who’s the favorite? Errrrrr, no one knows. The polls have been absurdly even for weeks, with Macron and Le Pen around 22-23 percent apiece and Fillion and Melenchon a few points back in the 19-20 range. Given the margin of error, any two of the four could end up in the runoff. On top of that, data nerds suspect that French pollsters are “herding” their results, i.e. fiddling with their assumptions to make their numbers more closely resemble their competitors’ because they’re worried about publishing data that looks like an outlier. Put all of that together and there’s no telling, really, who’s winning. PredictWise currently has Macron as a 56 percent favorite to become president with Le Pen next at 20 percent, but why they have any faith in the polling under the circumstances, I have no idea.

Another question: What effect might Trump’s quasi-endorsement have on Le Pen’s chances? Nationalists there may be cheered by support from nationalists here, just as the reverse is true, but what about the wider French electorate? A poll taken early last October, about a month before the U.S. voted, found that 86 percent of French citizens wanted Clinton to win versus 11 percent who preferred Trump. A few weeks later, a YouGov poll put the split at 62/9, with five percent saying they thought Trump would be a “good” or “great” president and 69 percent saying he’d be “poor” or “terrible.” There’s serious backlash potential to his warm words for Le Pen — if the French get to hear about it. By law, French media is required to black out election news beginning at midnight tonight until the votes are counted on Sunday. Apparently Trump’s words are already being reported on some French news sites, but not everyone may find out before the first round of voting. Then again, hadn’t all interested parties already guessed which way he’s leaning? And if you’re a French voter, would that matter to you more than, say, who’ll best handle terrorism after Thursday’s Paris attack?

Here’s a gassy little video fart that Macron, the centrist independent, posted to Twitter yesterday. Looks like we’ve got ourselves an honest-to-goodness proxy war between the current and former U.S. administrations. As of last June, 84 percent of French citizens said they had confidence in Obama to do the right thing in world affairs.
Let’s keep defending our progressive values. Thank you for this discussion @BarackObama. pic.twitter.com/8rhNdHkLo8

— Emmanuel Macron (@EmmanuelMacron) April 20, 2017


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So 0bama isn't endorsing Macron. Additionally, Trump isn't endorsing Le Pen. It just looks like they are.

So it seems no one is trying to interfere in the French election except Russia.

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Telegraph: Marine Le Pen gets poll boost after Paris attack as Donald Trump says her chances of victory have improved

I know, the Telegraph. Even so...

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-22   10:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#3)

I think Le Pen will complete the trifecta: Brexit, Trump, Le Pen. The common folk are rebelling, politely, through the ballot box. We, the British and the French are fortunate that we have such a system. It would be very UNfortunate to disregard what the peasants are saying. They've won the elections. Try to take away with legerdemain what they won at the ballot box, and they will come back, with pitchforks.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-22   17:09:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#8)

The common folk are rebelling, politely, through the ballot box.

There is something different about this current French election.

Doing interviews, people say that it is a disaster because no matter who is elected, 80% of the public will hate them.

Up to 30% of the voters may cast blank ballots to object to the candidates offer.

Perhaps most important, a large number of those interviewed or polled indicate they will stay home in the second round if their preferred candidate does not prevail.

And that would mean the center-Left, the center-Right, and the hard Left might not unite to stop LePen.

Recall how many Bernie fans felt burned by what the DNC did to tip the nomination to Hitlery over and over. They stayed home or voted for Stein. And enough of them did so for Trump to win the 3 northern industrial states.

Could something similar be happening in the French electorate?

Anyway, the mood as described in many publications is simply not the mood of a normal French election. Something is happening.

Maybe they'll unite to defeat Le Pen again but there is an upheaval among the voters, it seems.

Maybe it is Marine's perfect storm. Like Trump's perfect storm was here.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-22   17:16:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tooconservative (#12)

I believe that the demographic issue we have spoken of is the deepest root of it all. For we are biological creatures, designed to procreate and raise families and to see our future raised at our own hands.

Birth control unmoored pleasure from parentage, and in the heady days of the Sexual Revolution who would even want to look back again.

But now the streets are filling up with strangers, dark ones, with dark minds and dark actions. And the platitudes of the center offer nothing - nothing - that will stop the decline, nothing that give any HOPE.

Le Pen sounds like a voice from the past, but unlike her father, not the colonial past. The past of common sense, of not wanting to see everything trampled underfoot by a bunch of,,,barbarians.

By contrast, Hollande was a feckless wimp - fathered four kids, didn't even marry the mother. Sure, ha ha, it's France. But the mother was a major candidate last time. And Hollande, in his middle age, is still riding off on a moped to have sex with a mistress, while the whole country and civilization slide into the garbage chute.

ENOUGH!

Marine Le Pen is not Jean-Marie. What she is saying is tough, and true. It's common sense. When she created an international incident by walking out rather than agreeing to wear the headscarf to meet some grand mufti, she was firing a shot across the bow: NO. NO, we will NOT respect your dirty misogynistic culture. And since you're not going to change, stay out of our country!

If they're not kept out they're just going to keep killing. They're going to do that anyway, but once you've stopped the flood in, then you can focus on taking out the chiasse among those who have already gotten through.

If the streets were not filling with foreigners who shoot people and drive trucks into cars, Le Pen would not have a chance. But they are, and nobody else has a clue. That's why she'll win.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-22   17:28:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: Vicomte13 (#14)

Marine Le Pen is not Jean-Marie. What she is saying is tough, and true. It's common sense. When she created an international incident by walking out rather than agreeing to wear the headscarf to meet some grand mufti, she was firing a shot across the bow: NO. NO, we will NOT respect your dirty misogynistic culture. And since you're not going to change, stay out of our country!

I also see Le Pen as an almost Churchillian figure in French politics. She's spent her years in the wilderness of her father's bad reputation. Perhaps she will emerge from the fringe to power rather suddenly, just as Churchill did.

Certainly, it would be an upheaval across the EU. It could lead to the dissolution of the EU even if Le Pen did not push for a Frexit.

It reminds me of all the political writers and historians who keep telling us how much the world now resembles the political and cultural climate of a century ago. Just before WW I. I hate to admit but they have a point.

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