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Title: WATCH: Cops Raid Innocent Marine Vet’s Home as He Slept, Beat Him in Bed
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URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ma ... sered-bed/#sf14DxUhZPq9rrcg.99
Published: Apr 20, 2017
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2017-04-21 10:12:30 by Deckard
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Boyes Hot Springs, CA — Only in police state USA could an argument over a husband failing to notice his wife’s haircut end with police tasering and severely beating a man as he lays in bed. That is exactly what happened to Marine Corps veteran Fernando Del Valle — and he’s got the video to prove it. Although the incident occurred last September, the video was just released. It shows the horrifying nature of a problem cop who’s overly prone to violence. On the night of September 24, Del Valle, 38, and his wife had some drinks and got into an argument after he failed to notice her haircut. The argument became heated but never once turned physical. As Del Valle retreated into the bedroom and locked himself in, the couple’s screaming got the attention of the neighbors, who, in turn, called the police. Just as the argument begins to calm down, cops burst into the couple’s home. Del Valle, who is trying to go to sleep in bed is then woken up by the sound of Sonoma County sheriff’s deputies breaking down his bedroom door. Before the video begins, the deputies allegedly order Del Valle to stand up. That’s when Del Valle turns on his camera and warns the deputies, “I got you on video. Go ahead. Tase me.” Remember, Del Valle had committed no crime and had harmed no one. Yet, here he is with three armed men in his bedroom threatening to inflict bodily harm on him. And, within seconds, that just what Deputy Scott Thorne, 40, did. “Sir, I’m just laying here trying to sleep and you’re …,” Del Valle said. “I’m not standing up. I’m in my house. I’m sleeping.” As Thorne steps forward, he’s seen on the video aiming his taser at the bare chest of Del Valle who is wearing only gym shorts. He then fires. When the taser hits him, Del Valle can be heard screaming. At this point, the baton comes out, according to Del Valle’s attorney, and Thorne begins laying in to the defenseless man in his own bed. “He’s not doing anything!” his wife screams as the deputy continously beats her husband over and over with his baton and taser. The video then ends as Del Valle shouts repeatedly, “Call my lawyer!” Del Valle was not able to record the entire encounter, but the beating continued well after it stopped. According to the Press Democrat, a spokesman for Sheriff Steve Freitas could not comment on the cellphone video but agreed the deputies’ three videos raised concerns from the start about excessive force. After watching them, department brass immediately turned the case over to Santa Rosa police for criminal investigation, Sgt. Spencer Crum said. “We acted very swiftly and Scott Thorne was no longer employed by us,” Crum said. “We are very concerned this is an excessive force case. We acknowledged it from Day One.” As the Press Democrat revealed in their investigation, Thorne should’ve never been a cop as he’d been fired from previous jobs over his track record of excessive force. However, none of that matters to Thorne’s attorney who is naturally defending the actions of this brutal cop. “His position is he followed procedure,” Thorne’s lawyer Chris Andrian said, noting that he acted in accordance with his training. As for Del Valle, after he was severely beaten by Thorne — for no reason — he was then arrested and brought to jail. However, once police attempted to charge him with something, they realized they had no evidence of him committing a crime, so he was let go. Del Valle’s lawyer, Izaak Schwaiger, said, in all, Del Valle was tasered 2 to 3 times and suffered at least 15 baton blows, causing neurological damage and a separated shoulder. Del Valle has since filed a lawsuit against the department, seeking damages above $25,000. Poster Comment: As the Press Democrat revealed in their investigation, Thorne should’ve never been a cop as he’d been fired from previous jobs over his track record of excessive force. There's a real shocker!! The cop probably "feared for his life" because Del Valle had a lethal weapon nearby - a pillow!
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#41. To: Gatlin (#39)
What would you have to piss and moan about…. What's reprehensible is that a so-called American citizen like yourself is a pom-pom waving cheerleader who applauds the rise of the Amerikan police state. That would be one option. The problem now is that they are using these military vehicles to go after those with parking tickets or a kid in possession of a gram of pot. If the only tool you have is a hammer, then everything is treated as a nail. Only in your conspiracy theory diseased mind where fantasies rule. It’s a product of your warped imagination developed from reading too many articles it TFTP. There is no such real place …
Bullshit. Your phantasies have taken complete control of your reasoning. Military vehicles are not used that way …
Try again….this time make sense.
What is not understandable is why you have such a deep seated fear of the police and an uncontrollable hatred for cops. What did some cop do to you that you didn’t really deserve?
How about for exercising their First Amendment rights? Regardless how one feels about making an obscene gesture towards police officers, the bottom line is that such a gesture is a protected constitutional right and nobody should be harassed for it, especially by heavily armed thuggish individuals riding around in what appears to be a tank through downtown Gainesville, Florida. Watch video below: or a kid in possession of a gram of pot. Nevertheless, police have used MRAPs and other military equipment to conduct drug raids. The Washington Post points out that in many ways, it is wholly unnecessary for local police to have these tools. It notes that “Clearwater County, Idaho, has a population of fewer than 10,000 people. It seems like overkill to keep an armored truck on hand for the purpose of ‘marijuana eradication.’ This is especially true when you consider that in recent years, the number of marijuana grow sites discovered in the entire state of Idaho can be counted on one hand.” Though police departments insist the vehicles are used for active shooter, hostage, and terrorist situations, one ACLU investigation of Massachusetts SWAT teams showed the vast majority of raids had nothing to do with such public safety concerns. Wisconsin’s Kenosha County Police Department, which requested an armored vehicle, went on to raid an animal shelter that was criminally raising a baby deer named Giggles. The Department of Natural Resources seized and killed the deer. In another instance, Ohio State University police requested an MRAP to police football games. These inflated police concerns over marijuana are outdated at best—and an excuse to obtain more powerful weapons at worst. Either way, citing marijuana as a reason to collect military gear is increasingly outrageous. It remains that in spite of constant police seizures of marijuana and related arrests, the production and distribution of the plant continues to grow—supporting the snowballing notion that the decades-long Drug War is futile, wasteful, and counterproductive. It's not unreasonable to fear the police, even if you have done nothing wrong. It's best to avoid them and shun them when they approach you in a business. I see cops pretty much every morning when I stop for coffee - I just ignore them. As we have seen time and time again, cops often get away with killing innocent American citizens - it's almost a daily occurrence. I don't hate all cops - just the bad ones. In fact I posted a story about a "good" cop just the other day. Never Forget: Hero Cop Who Blew Whistle on OKC Bombing Did NOT Commit Suicide Sheriff dispatches SWAT tank and chopper – finds a homeless man with food
Exactly so. And they want to hit everything with that sledgehammer.
You didn't watch the coverage of the Boston Marathon massacre where they ended up going door to door with a confined population, searching houses, riding in their armored vehicles and outfitted like combat soldiers? All to apprehend a 19yo kid on foot that ended up cowering in a boat in someone's back yard? The police should not be militarized. Leave such things to the National Guard and under the control of the governors.
In some cities, yes, they are used daily. And on routine arrests. It seems this is more true in the most liberal areas though you see it in some conservative areas in the South too. I thought you were saying they're rarely used? The armories in my state are manned. And any armory in the country can be available on short notice to respond to natural disasters so they could roll out the local commander or a ranking subordinate to unlock the vehicle for the cops. So this is very doable anywhere in America.
It's not unreasonable to fear the police … No, I am not playing doctor. One need not be a psychiatrist to recognize your malady, it is visibly evident to everyone who reads your article and posts you make. Here is something that worked for a 5-year-old girl….and you can experience something similar the next time you see cops when you stop for coffee in the morning. FORT WALTON BEACH — When 5-year-old Anna Hock’s daddy was pulled over for speeding Tuesday night, she was terrified the officer was going to take him away. The little Fort Walton Beach girl cried through the brief traffic stop. She cried for two hours after they got home. She woke up in the middle of the night, worrying, and cried some more. Her parents, Kyle and Sarah, tried to reassure her. “I explained to her that he’s a police officer and his job is to protect,” Sarah said. “They were protecting us and everyone around us because Daddy was going too fast.” But Anna remained convinced and terrified. The next morning when Kyle, who had gotten off with a warning, took her to school at First United Methodist Church, he explained why Anna was so tired. Later that morning, Kyle and Sarah got texts from the school with photos of Anna sitting happily in a patrol car, hugging a police officer and posing with officers and the rest of her kindergarten class. The staff at the school had reached out to the Fort Walton Beach Police Department, which responded by sending officers Jeff O’Dell and Adam Dee to ease Anna’s fears. “One of our major goals is to reach out to our schools and to give kids those one-on- one interactions that let them know we’re here to help,” Capt. Tracy Hart said. Anna went from being afraid that her family was going to be taken to jail to considering law enforcement as a career. “As a mom, it blessed me and it definitely touched my heart,” said Sarah, who posted a heartfelt thank you on the Police Department’s Facebook page. “I’m so thankful for our local police department and for her school.”
Okay....I have personally never seen this happen or read where it did. This is excessive display ...
I'll be waiting with bated breath for Deckard's after-action report. Now I'm really excited.
All to apprehend a 19yo kid on foot that ended up cowering in a boat in someone's back yard? Get off that shit of describing that terrorist as simply “a 19yo kid!” Did they know he was on foot at the time? Did you read that? He could have ended up anywhere, don’t make it sound so simplistic….please. I did not find the use of the vehicles or the tactics to be excessive when hunting down the bastard….but then, that’s just me.
That's something more suitable for a badge-licker like you, wouldn't you say? I have no interest in fondling cops - why do you? I'll just stick with my plan and ignore them. You realize you just invited Deckard to post an endless stream of videos of cops in action with armored vehicles, don't you? It isn't that unusual. There has been some real backlash in some town and I don't think it is quite as common as it was in the years after they greatly expanded the buy-an-armored-MRAP-for-$10 federal program. Which of course made certain congressmen very happy. Even so, they haven't parked those armored vehicles. They are a little more circumspect in using them where the media or public might record them on camera or cellphone. Also, I think that 0bama did some kind of rollback and made them return some of these vehicles. And some localities found out that even if the MRAP was virtually free under a grant program, that the parts and routine maintenance costs were very high. So I read, back when LP was still around, that a lot of them were gathering dust. Especially in the rural South where it seemed about half the sheriffs had scored one for almost nothing when the Iraq War started to wind down but the Pentagon had tons of them still coming off the assembly lines.
They had a picture of the little girl hugging a police officer....I could not post it. I will try to find the link for you. Here it is….click twice on the right arrow to see the kid hug the cop. http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20161202/officers- ease-girls-fear-of-police Can you imagine Deckard doing that?
No, I am not playing doctor. Why yes - you are "playing doctor". And your diagnosis is bullshit like the rest of the swill you post here. It certainly is not unreasonable to at least be wary of cops, ignore them whenever possible. And I have posted numerous times - I hate the bad ones. Unfortunately - you and others of your submissive ilk worship the ground they walk on. In case you didn't get the memo - they are not your "friend". They are no longer Peace Officers - they are called Law Enforcement now. Which means that they are little more than revenue collectors for the State. I view them the same way they view ALL citizens. As the enemy. The pricks brought that upon themselves. I posted a story about a "good" cop just the other day. Never Forget: Hero Cop Who Blew Whistle on OKC Bombing Did NOT Commit Suicide Guess you ignored that one. Why would her mother lie to her like that? Yeah - that's just you alright. Gatlin - the Martial Law cheerleader. Maybe it is the city and the neighborhood. I have been in Scottsdale for over 40 years and I travel throughout Phoenix frequently. Of course the area I live and travel in is virtually crime free. I have never seen one in use or on the nightly news here. I have read the Sheriff’s department has them, probably the local PD also….but I have never read that.
No, Gatlin get the terrorist son of a bitch by any means necessary. Whatever it takes ...
Why would her mother lie to her like that? One good reason would be that she would not want her to turn into another Deckard asshole, afraid of cops and hating them for the rest of her life. You notice that she is going to a private school in a church….maybe that is something you should try to relieve your anxiety and fear of cops….attend the church regularly.
Boston Martial Law: ‘They were confiscating guns from residents’ Get off that shit of describing that terrorist as simply “a 19yo kid!” Did they know he was on foot at the time? Did you read that? FBI Evidence Proves Innocence of Accused Boston Marathon Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Did they know he was on foot at the time? Did you read that? They did learn that when Djokar (the yout') abandoned the vehicle he used to run over his brother, Tamerlane, with. They terrorized an entire metro area and treated them like they were in a damned totalitarian hellhole for the better part of a day. It's hard to imagine anything more damaging to the social fabric of Boston and the entire country than to see something so shameful on television. Americans, cowering in their homes as their houses are searched by masked men in black combat gear. One of the most shameful things I've ever seen in this country. I know they're only MAssholes but you expect at least a little pride and backbone even in such a pussified state as that.
The truth does hurt you….I know that but I am not sorry for that. Someone needs to tell you….although it will do no good
No, Gatlin get the terrorist son of a bitch by any means necessary. Whatever it takes ... Yeah - who the hell needs their 4th Amendment rights anyways? This is America you fascist POS! He was not innocent at all. He would have been executed but for the usual trickery of the MAsshole court system and MAsshole pols. This is one of those events that people seem to quickly forget the details of. They pay a lot of attention at the time and soak up the details but somehow it doesn't register in their longterm memory and within a year or two, they seem to forget entirely many of the key facts about the case.
Ah, but they did not know that he did not steal a vehicle or have access to another vehicle. In fact, they did not know the number of people they were dealing with at the time, right? He had friends who destroyed his computer, they could have given him access to a vehicle I can pretty much guarantee you that the cops did not say, don’t worry about checking any vehicles….he is definitely on foot. Ya think?
And he was a terrorist who had just killed Americans you libertarian bastard.
Missing Evidence of Prior FBI Relationship with Boston Bomber Justice denied: Tsarnaev’s own lawyer ignores evidence he is innocent of Boston bombing There were many conflicting reports about his whereabouts. That was after they had falsely accused several people online of being Boston Bombers. It was a real frenzy for the first 3-4 hours. Entirely innocent and unconnected people were falsely accused with some of it leaking on to cable news and big news sites. The clearest evidence that they knew he was on foot and still in Boston was in how they chose to conduct the search and to deploy all of their manpower. They went door to door, they checked sheds and boats stored in backyards. You would only do that if you were quite certain that the suspect was on foot and had had no chance to get a fresh vehicle. Those cops don't look like they're trying to stop a car with Djokhar in it.
Martial Law for an entire city to go after ONE single "terrorist"? Yeah - that is typical for you. Oh, BTW - he was a patsy. False flag theater: Boston bombing involves clearly staged carnage God, I hope not ...
Bullshit....you CT freak!
While there is significant evidence supporting the accused Boston bomber’s innocence, none of it made it into his trial, which just concluded with guilty verdicts on all 30 counts against him. It seems that law enforcement, the media, and especially Tsarnaev’s own lawyer, Judy Clarke, were focused on suppressing any evidence that could have undermined the official story of the bombing. The truth has been covered up just as effectively as it was the day Lee Harvey Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby. Clarke insured Tsarnaev’s conviction when she opened the trial by admitting that he had carried out the bombing on April 15, 2013 with his brother, 26-year-old Tamerlan, who was killed in the aftermath. Clarke painted Tamerlan as the instigator in an apparent effort to spare Dzhokhar from execution, but that may happen anyway as the trial now enters the sentencing phase. Clarke is known for her ability to keep her clients off death row (including Unabomber Ted Kaczyinski; alleged 9/11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui; and Jared Loughner, who was convicted of shooting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords), but given the weakness of the evidence against Tsarnaev, Clarke’s strategy amounted to throwing in the towel before the trial even started. But what about making the prosecution prove guilt? To say that Clarke could have created reasonable doubt if she had wanted to is an understatement. In this article, we’ll look at the evidence that should have been introduced at Tsarnaev’s trial but wasn’t (Keep in mind that Dzhokhar had claimed his innocence, which conflicted with the supposed confession he wrote on the inside of the boat where he was captured on April 19, four days after the bombing). Maybe I shouldn't have brought it up. We've gone far afield from the topic of this thread. If we've run out of things to say on the article/topic of this thread, we should start another and not just chit-chat/spat away on this thread. Some forums have a feature where mods can close a thread and lock it. LF would benefit from that, well, if Stone was willing to do that much moderation. We might have reached that point.
Those looking for a quick and painless way to dismiss uncomfortable facts need look no further than any of thousands of pundits and news anchors who have already told you what to think about “conspiracy theorists.” You’ve heard that they start with a conclusion and make the evidence fit their preconceived notions, they find real life too boring so they invent elaborate stories to spice things up, or that the idea of random terror is so, well, terrifying that they need to have a “grand theory” to make the world seem safer and more manageable. These themes originated with the CIA 47 years ago, when they released a plan to stomp out alternative views about the JFK assassination. The plan includes a recommendation to “employ propaganda assets to [negate] and refute the attacks of the critics” Our assets should point out, as applicable, that the critics are (I) wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in, (II) politically interested, (III) financially interested, (IV) hasty and inaccurate in their research, or (V) infatuated with their own theories. Although lacking any grounding in fact, these criticisms of researchers who question the government’s story have been repeated so often by both mainstream and alternative sources, that they are now believed by many gullible people. Does the idea of the US government using actors to play the role of victims in fake terror attacks seem impossibly far-fetched? An article from 2003 described the Department of Homeland Security running exercises with “make-believe victims seeking medical treatment. Volunteers and professional actors will play the roles of victims…” Unfortunately the article is no longer online. Consider this Actor Waiver Form for a Homeland Security Exercise. I found this form on the Department of Homeland Security website but the page is now “currently unavailable due to system modifications.” However it can be viewed here.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI miss the days when Amerika wasn't a police state.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#42. To: Tooconservative (#38)
I want Congress to force them to park those at local National Guard armories unless a governor okays their use in a state of emergency or to apprehend violent drug gangs or jihadis.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#43. To: Deckard (#41)
… the rise of the Amerikan police state.
#44. To: Deckard, Tooconservative (#42)
The problem now is that they are using these military vehicles to go after those with parking tickets or a kid in possession of a gram of pot.
#45. To: Deckard (#42)
If the only tool you have is a hammer, then everything is treated as a nail.
Your analogy is asinine and completely inappropriate because these military vehicles is not the only tool LEOs have.
#46. To: Deckard (#41)
#47. To: Gatlin (#44)
The problem now is that they are using these military vehicles to go after those with parking tickets...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#48. To: Gatlin (#46)
What is not understandable is why you have such a deep seated fear of the police and an uncontrollable hatred for cops.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#49. To: Gatlin (#46)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#50. To: Deckard (#42)
If the only tool you have is a hammer, then everything is treated as a nail.
#51. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#44)
Military vehicles are not used that way …
#52. To: Gatlin (#40)
They are not used on a daily basis….that I know of, do you?
If they are parked at a local National Guard armory, that can be many miles away and it may take hours to locate the guy with a key during night time hours. The armories I know are not manned 24/7.
#53. To: Deckard (#48)
What is not understandable is why you have such a deep seated fear of the police and an uncontrollable hatred for cops.
Your paranoid fear of the police is manifested in your unreasonable and uncontrollable hate for them.
Hey, Deckard, the next time you see the cops when you stop for coffee, ask them to let you sit in their crusier, turn of the flashing lights, tap the siren….and then give each one a big hug and thank them for their service. You will be a better man for doing this …
#54. To: Tooconservative (#52)
In some cities, yes, they are used daily. And on routine arrests.
#55. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#53)
Hey, Deckard, the next time you see the cops when you stop for coffee, ask them to let you sit in their crusier, turn of the flashing lights, tap the siren….and then give each one a big hug and thank them for their service.
#56. To: Tooconservative (#51)
You didn't watch the coverage of the Boston Marathon massacre where they ended up going door to door with a confined population, searching houses, riding in their armored vehicles and outfitted like combat soldiers?
#57. To: Gatlin (#53)
Hey, Deckard, the next time you see the cops when you stop for coffee, ask them to let you sit in their crusier, turn of the flashing lights, tap the siren….and then give each one a big hug and thank them for their service.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#58. To: Gatlin (#54)
Okay....I have personally never seen this happen or read where it did.
#59. To: Tooconservative (#55)
#60. To: Gatlin (#53)
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Your paranoid fear of the police is manifested in your unreasonable and uncontrollable hate for them.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#61. To: Gatlin (#53)
“I explained to her that he’s a police officer and his job is to protect,” Sarah said.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#62. To: Gatlin (#56)
I did not find the use of the vehicles or the tactics to be excessive when hunting down the bastard….but then, that’s just me.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#63. To: Tooconservative (#58)
It isn't that unusual.
#64. To: Deckard (#62)
Gatlin - the Martial Law cheerleader.
#65. To: Deckard (#61)
“I explained to her that he’s a police officer and his job is to protect,” Sarah said.
#66. To: Gatlin, Tooconservative (#56)
I did not find the use of the vehicles or the tactics to be excessive when hunting down the bastard….but then, that’s just me.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#67. To: Gatlin (#56)
Get off that shit of describing that terrorist as simply “a 19yo kid!”
#68. To: Deckard (#60)
#69. To: Gatlin (#64)
Gatlin - the Martial Law cheerleader.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#70. To: Deckard (#66)
FBI Evidence Proves Innocence of Accused Boston Marathon Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
#71. To: Tooconservative (#67)
They did learn that when Djokar (the yout') abandoned the vehicle he used to run over his brother, Tamerlane, with.
#72. To: Deckard (#69)
(Edited)
This is America you fascist POS!
#73. To: Tooconservative (#70)
He was not innocent at all.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#74. To: Gatlin (#71)
(Edited)
#75. To: Gatlin (#72)
(Edited)
And he was a terrorist who had just killed Americans you libertarian bastard.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#76. To: Deckard (#73)
Boston Marathon bomber's wait on death row likely to be a long one
#77. To: Deckard (#75)
Oh, BTW - he was a patsy.
#78. To: Gatlin (#76)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#79. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#73)
...Boston Bomber
#80. To: Gatlin (#77)
CT freak!
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
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