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Title: WATCH: Cops Raid Innocent Marine Vet’s Home as He Slept, Beat Him in Bed
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ma ... sered-bed/#sf14DxUhZPq9rrcg.99
Published: Apr 20, 2017
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2017-04-21 10:12:30 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 22420
Comments: 120

Boyes Hot Springs, CA — Only in police state USA could an argument over a husband failing to notice his wife’s haircut end with police tasering and severely beating a man as he lays in bed. That is exactly what happened to Marine Corps veteran Fernando Del Valle — and he’s got the video to prove it.

Although the incident occurred last September, the video was just released. It shows the horrifying nature of a problem cop who’s overly prone to violence.

On the night of September 24, Del Valle, 38, and his wife had some drinks and got into an argument after he failed to notice her haircut. The argument became heated but never once turned physical.

As Del Valle retreated into the bedroom and locked himself in, the couple’s screaming got the attention of the neighbors, who, in turn, called the police.

Just as the argument begins to calm down, cops burst into the couple’s home. Del Valle, who is trying to go to sleep in bed is then woken up by the sound of Sonoma County sheriff’s deputies breaking down his bedroom door.

Before the video begins, the deputies allegedly order Del Valle to stand up.

That’s when Del Valle turns on his camera and warns the deputies, “I got you on video. Go ahead. Tase me.”

Remember, Del Valle had committed no crime and had harmed no one. Yet, here he is with three armed men in his bedroom threatening to inflict bodily harm on him. And, within seconds, that just what Deputy Scott Thorne, 40, did.

“Sir, I’m just laying here trying to sleep and you’re …,” Del Valle said. “I’m not standing up. I’m in my house. I’m sleeping.”

As Thorne steps forward, he’s seen on the video aiming his taser at the bare chest of Del Valle who is wearing only gym shorts. He then fires.

When the taser hits him, Del Valle can be heard screaming. At this point, the baton comes out, according to Del Valle’s attorney, and Thorne begins laying in to the defenseless man in his own bed.

“He’s not doing anything!” his wife screams as the deputy continously beats her husband over and over with his baton and taser.

The video then ends as Del Valle shouts repeatedly, “Call my lawyer!”

Del Valle was not able to record the entire encounter, but the beating continued well after it stopped.

According to the Press Democrat, a spokesman for Sheriff Steve Freitas could not comment on the cellphone video but agreed the deputies’ three videos raised concerns from the start about excessive force. After watching them, department brass immediately turned the case over to Santa Rosa police for criminal investigation, Sgt. Spencer Crum said.

“We acted very swiftly and Scott Thorne was no longer employed by us,” Crum said. “We are very concerned this is an excessive force case. We acknowledged it from Day One.”

As the Press Democrat revealed in their investigation, Thorne should’ve never been a cop as he’d been fired from previous jobs over his track record of excessive force.

However, none of that matters to Thorne’s attorney who is naturally defending the actions of this brutal cop.

“His position is he followed procedure,” Thorne’s lawyer Chris Andrian said, noting that he acted in accordance with his training.

As for Del Valle, after he was severely beaten by Thorne — for no reason — he was then arrested and brought to jail. However, once police attempted to charge him with something, they realized they had no evidence of him committing a crime, so he was let go.

Del Valle’s lawyer, Izaak Schwaiger, said, in all, Del Valle was tasered 2 to 3 times and suffered at least 15 baton blows, causing neurological damage and a separated shoulder.

Del Valle has since filed a lawsuit against the department, seeking damages above $25,000.


Poster Comment:

As the Press Democrat revealed in their investigation, Thorne should’ve never been a cop as he’d been fired from previous jobs over his track record of excessive force.

There's a real shocker!!

The cop probably "feared for his life" because Del Valle had a lethal weapon nearby - a pillow!

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#60. To: Gatlin (#53) (Edited)

Your paranoid fear of the police is manifested in your unreasonable and uncontrollable hate for them.

No, I am not playing doctor.

Why yes - you are "playing doctor". And your diagnosis is bullshit like the rest of the swill you post here.

It certainly is not unreasonable to at least be wary of cops, ignore them whenever possible. And I have posted numerous times - I hate the bad ones. Unfortunately - you and others of your submissive ilk worship the ground they walk on.

In case you didn't get the memo - they are not your "friend".

They are no longer Peace Officers - they are called Law Enforcement now.

Which means that they are little more than revenue collectors for the State.

I view them the same way they view ALL citizens. As the enemy.

The pricks brought that upon themselves.

I posted a story about a "good" cop just the other day.

Never Forget: Hero Cop Who Blew Whistle on OKC Bombing Did NOT Commit Suicide

Guess you ignored that one.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Gatlin (#53)

“I explained to her that he’s a police officer and his job is to protect,” Sarah said.

Why would her mother lie to her like that?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Gatlin (#56)

I did not find the use of the vehicles or the tactics to be excessive when hunting down the bastard….but then, that’s just me.

Yeah - that's just you alright.

Gatlin - the Martial Law cheerleader.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Tooconservative (#58)

It isn't that unusual.

Maybe it is the city and the neighborhood.

I have been in Scottsdale for over 40 years and I travel throughout Phoenix frequently.

Of course the area I live and travel in is virtually crime free.

I have never seen one in use or on the nightly news here.

I have read the Sheriff’s department has them, probably the local PD also….but I have never read that.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Deckard (#62)

Gatlin - the Martial Law cheerleader.

No, Gatlin get the terrorist son of a bitch by any means necessary.

Whatever it takes ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Deckard (#61)

“I explained to her that he’s a police officer and his job is to protect,” Sarah said.

Why would her mother lie to her like that?

One good reason would be that she would not want her to turn into another Deckard asshole, afraid of cops and hating them for the rest of her life.

You notice that she is going to a private school in a church….maybe that is something you should try to relieve your anxiety and fear of cops….attend the church regularly.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Gatlin, Tooconservative (#56)

I did not find the use of the vehicles or the tactics to be excessive when hunting down the bastard….but then, that’s just me.

Boston Martial Law: ‘They were confiscating guns from residents’

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Get off that shit of describing that terrorist as simply “a 19yo kid!”

Did they know he was on foot at the time? Did you read that?

FBI Evidence Proves Innocence of Accused Boston Marathon Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:21:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Gatlin (#56)

Get off that shit of describing that terrorist as simply “a 19yo kid!”

Did they know he was on foot at the time? Did you read that?

They did learn that when Djokar (the yout') abandoned the vehicle he used to run over his brother, Tamerlane, with.

They terrorized an entire metro area and treated them like they were in a damned totalitarian hellhole for the better part of a day.

It's hard to imagine anything more damaging to the social fabric of Boston and the entire country than to see something so shameful on television.

Americans, cowering in their homes as their houses are searched by masked men in black combat gear. One of the most shameful things I've ever seen in this country.

I know they're only MAssholes but you expect at least a little pride and backbone even in such a pussified state as that.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-22   0:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Deckard (#60)

The truth does hurt you….I know that but I am not sorry for that.

Someone needs to tell you….although it will do no good

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Gatlin (#64)

Gatlin - the Martial Law cheerleader.

No, Gatlin get the terrorist son of a bitch by any means necessary.

Whatever it takes ...

Yeah - who the hell needs their 4th Amendment rights anyways?

This is America you fascist POS!

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Deckard (#66)

FBI Evidence Proves Innocence of Accused Boston Marathon Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

He was not innocent at all. He would have been executed but for the usual trickery of the MAsshole court system and MAsshole pols.

This is one of those events that people seem to quickly forget the details of. They pay a lot of attention at the time and soak up the details but somehow it doesn't register in their longterm memory and within a year or two, they seem to forget entirely many of the key facts about the case.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-22   0:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Tooconservative (#67)

They did learn that when Djokar (the yout') abandoned the vehicle he used to run over his brother, Tamerlane, with.

Ah, but they did not know that he did not steal a vehicle or have access to another vehicle. In fact, they did not know the number of people they were dealing with at the time, right?

He had friends who destroyed his computer, they could have given him access to a vehicle

I can pretty much guarantee you that the cops did not say, don’t worry about checking any vehicles….he is definitely on foot.

Ya think?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Deckard (#69) (Edited)

This is America you fascist POS!

And he was a terrorist who had just killed Americans you libertarian bastard.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Tooconservative (#70)

He was not innocent at all.

Missing Evidence of Prior FBI Relationship with Boston Bomber

Justice denied: Tsarnaev’s own lawyer ignores evidence he is innocent of Boston bombing

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Gatlin (#71) (Edited)

There were many conflicting reports about his whereabouts. That was after they had falsely accused several people online of being Boston Bombers. It was a real frenzy for the first 3-4 hours. Entirely innocent and unconnected people were falsely accused with some of it leaking on to cable news and big news sites.

The clearest evidence that they knew he was on foot and still in Boston was in how they chose to conduct the search and to deploy all of their manpower. They went door to door, they checked sheds and boats stored in backyards. You would only do that if you were quite certain that the suspect was on foot and had had no chance to get a fresh vehicle.

Those cops don't look like they're trying to stop a car with Djokhar in it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-22   0:35:16 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Gatlin (#72) (Edited)

And he was a terrorist who had just killed Americans you libertarian bastard.

Martial Law for an entire city to go after ONE single "terrorist"?

Yeah - that is typical for you.

Oh, BTW - he was a patsy.

False flag theater: Boston bombing involves clearly staged carnage

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Deckard (#73)

Boston Marathon bomber's wait on death row likely to be a long one

God, I hope not ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Deckard (#75)

Oh, BTW - he was a patsy.

Bullshit....you CT freak!

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Gatlin (#76)

While there is significant evidence supporting the accused Boston bomber’s innocence, none of it made it into his trial, which just concluded with guilty verdicts on all 30 counts against him. It seems that law enforcement, the media, and especially Tsarnaev’s own lawyer, Judy Clarke, were focused on suppressing any evidence that could have undermined the official story of the bombing. The truth has been covered up just as effectively as it was the day Lee Harvey Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby.

Clarke insured Tsarnaev’s conviction when she opened the trial by admitting that he had carried out the bombing on April 15, 2013 with his brother, 26-year-old Tamerlan, who was killed in the aftermath. Clarke painted Tamerlan as the instigator in an apparent effort to spare Dzhokhar from execution, but that may happen anyway as the trial now enters the sentencing phase.

Clarke is known for her ability to keep her clients off death row (including Unabomber Ted Kaczyinski; alleged 9/11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui; and Jared Loughner, who was convicted of shooting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords), but given the weakness of the evidence against Tsarnaev, Clarke’s strategy amounted to throwing in the towel before the trial even started.

But what about making the prosecution prove guilt? To say that Clarke could have created reasonable doubt if she had wanted to is an understatement. In this article, we’ll look at the evidence that should have been introduced at Tsarnaev’s trial but wasn’t (Keep in mind that Dzhokhar had claimed his innocence, which conflicted with the supposed confession he wrote on the inside of the boat where he was captured on April 19, four days after the bombing).

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#73)

...Boston Bomber

Maybe I shouldn't have brought it up.

We've gone far afield from the topic of this thread.

If we've run out of things to say on the article/topic of this thread, we should start another and not just chit-chat/spat away on this thread.

Some forums have a feature where mods can close a thread and lock it. LF would benefit from that, well, if Stone was willing to do that much moderation.

We might have reached that point.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-22   0:42:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Gatlin (#77)

CT freak!

Those looking for a quick and painless way to dismiss uncomfortable facts need look no further than any of thousands of pundits and news anchors who have already told you what to think about “conspiracy theorists.” You’ve heard that they start with a conclusion and make the evidence fit their preconceived notions, they find real life too boring so they invent elaborate stories to spice things up, or that the idea of random terror is so, well, terrifying that they need to have a “grand theory” to make the world seem safer and more manageable.

These themes originated with the CIA 47 years ago, when they released a plan to stomp out alternative views about the JFK assassination. The plan includes a recommendation to “employ propaganda assets to [negate] and refute the attacks of the critics”

Our assets should point out, as applicable, that the critics are (I) wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in, (II) politically interested, (III) financially interested, (IV) hasty and inaccurate in their research, or (V) infatuated with their own theories.

Although lacking any grounding in fact, these criticisms of researchers who question the government’s story have been repeated so often by both mainstream and alternative sources, that they are now believed by many gullible people.

Does the idea of the US government using actors to play the role of victims in fake terror attacks seem impossibly far-fetched?

An article from 2003 described the Department of Homeland Security running exercises with “make-believe victims seeking medical treatment. Volunteers and professional actors will play the roles of victims…”  Unfortunately the article is no longer online.

Consider this Actor Waiver Form for a Homeland Security Exercise.  I found this form on the Department of Homeland Security website but the page is now “currently unavailable due to system modifications.”  However it can be viewed here.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Tooconservative (#74)

These going after him …

Or, these going after him …

If I were a cop that day, I rather be like those in the top piciture….but then, that’s just me.

You may have a preference for shot sleeves …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:47:35 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Tooconservative (#79)

if Stone was willing to do that much moderation.

I haven't seen Stone around here for quite a while. His latest post was Tuesday.

I think he may be losing interest in the site.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Deckard (#80)

“conspiracy theorists.”

Conspiracy theorists low life eat shit …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   0:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Gatlin (#81)

If I were a cop that day, I rather be like those in the top piciture….but then, that’s just me.

You're missing the point.

The entire city of Boston was under de facto Martial Law!

That you see nothing wrong with that is troubling.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Deckard (#82)

I think he may be losing interest in the site.

How could that be with Gatlin around always adding valuable insights and provoking deep and introspective thought (cough).

Operation 40  posted on  2017-04-22   0:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Gatlin (#83)

Conspiracy theorists low life eat shit …

You sure got that CIA narrative down pat comrade.

Your refusal to consider anything but the "official" gooberment narrative on events like the Boston Bombing or 9/11 is quite pathetic actually.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Operation 40 (#85)

How could that be with Gatlin around always adding valuable insights and provoking deep and introspective thought (cough).

He's really outed himself on this thread.

His fascist tendencies and hatred for the Constitution can no longer be denied.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-22   0:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Gatlin, homegrown terrorist, global scope, freerange, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#72)

he was a terrorist

You're a free-range global terrorist!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-04-22   0:59:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Tooconservative (#74)

They knew that they were looking for one individual at the time….but they had not yet determined how many others were involved.

Am I right about that?

So, they really did not know what to expect.

If I were the Chief, I would say, “Go in with maximum protection.”

Like they were doing.

I still see nothing wrong in their tactic or improper use of resources.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   1:02:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Deckard (#87)

He's really outed himself on this thread.

Nah, I’m the same.

I still don’t hate cops and I don’t love terrorists.

Why do you?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   1:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Deckard (#87)

His fascist tendencies ...

Pot <> Kettle = Black.

Is rightwing libertarianism the new fascism?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   1:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Deckard (#86)

Your refusal to consider anything but the "official" gooberment narrative on events like the Boston Bombing or 9/11 is quite pathetic actually.

No, but I will trust them more than I ever will you lying CT Freaks.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   1:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Deckard (#82)

I haven't seen Stone around here for quite a while. His latest post was Tuesday.

I think he may be losing interest in the site.

He told us he barely has the time to check in here because he's been so busy at work this spring. He looks in but doesn't take the time to write posts.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-22   1:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Gatlin (#89)

They knew that they were looking for one individual at the time….but they had not yet determined how many others were involved.

Am I right about that?

I'm not sure what time of day that photo of jackboots riding an armored vehicle was taken so I can't say what they knew at the time of the photo.

However, due to their use of cameras on the crowd, the cops identified both Tamerlane and Djokar within several hours.

They knew early on that they were searching for a scared untrained 19yo pussyboy almost certainly on foot and still in Boston who had already run over his handler, his older brother Tamerlane.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-22   1:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Gatlin (#91)

Is rightwing libertarianism the new fascism?

You finally managed to tie it all to libertarians.

Nice work.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-22   1:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Deckard (#84)

The entire city of Boston was under de facto Martial Law!
That you see nothing wrong with that is troubling.
No such thing as de facto martial law happened in Boston. Martial law were never declared.
The imposition of martial law accompanies curfews; the suspension of civil law, civil rights, and habeas corpus; and the application or extension of military law or military justice to civilians.
The curfew was entirely voluntary….TV and radio journalists were interviewing numerous people who were out and about doing what they normally do during the so called curfew. There was never a suspension of civil law, civil rights or habeas corpus. Was there? No. There was no military law placed in effect and no military justice was dispensed to a single civilian. Did I miss anything? Nope, I covered it all. I debunked your entire “de facto” allegation.

So, the response you label “police state tactics” once the suspect was located in a specific area was actually a tactical response that one would expect anytime in any city where the threat of further bombs or attacks could be made on the public or police. The authorities knew they were looking for one man at that time, they had no idea if others may be involved of if follow on attacks were planned and about to happen. The police had to be prepared to expect the unexpected. The police did and they did a fine job.

The fact that you always immediately mislabel everything any government official does or the action they take is what should be troubling to you. You need to step out of your panic mode, step back to look at things properly and in their correct perspective….before you always step forward into your own shit.

Doesn’t that get tiring to you….having to always clean you shoes off?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   2:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Tooconservative (#95)

Is rightwing libertarianism the new fascism?

You finally managed to tie it all to libertarians.

Nice work.

I guess it did.

Deckard called a a fascist and the title of that article was an easy one for me to remember to look up and counter attack with.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   2:06:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Tooconservative (#94)

However, due to their use of cameras on the crowd, the cops identified both Tamerlane and Djokar within several hours.

They knew early on that they were searching for a scared untrained 19yo pussyboy almost certainly on foot and still in Boston who had already run over his handler, his older brother Tamerlane.

I agree with the first part. I remember that well. I was glued to the TV, as were so many.

So I knew who they had identified and who they were actively seeking at the time….but they had never decided that the two were the only individuals solely responsible and no one else was involved or if there would be follow on bombings.

The way I saw it …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   2:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Tooconservative (#95)

When the LEOs use the military vehicles and equipment for petty stuff like you said….then I agree it was wrong.

I have been thinking about Boston and trying to lean the way it looks to me like you are thinking.

I still can’t see their tactics and equipment as an overreaction….maybe it is still the military training in me after all these years. I can’t see it any differently. I would want full protection for my troops and I would use everything I had available to protect them.

Just a footnote, because I am still thinking about it …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-22   2:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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