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Title: WATCH: Cops Raid Innocent Marine Vet’s Home as He Slept, Beat Him in Bed
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Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ma ... sered-bed/#sf14DxUhZPq9rrcg.99
Published: Apr 20, 2017
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2017-04-21 10:12:30 by Deckard
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Views: 19591
Comments: 120
Boyes Hot Springs, CA — Only in police state USA could an argument over a husband failing to notice his wife’s haircut end with police tasering and severely beating a man as he lays in bed. That is exactly what happened to Marine Corps veteran Fernando Del Valle — and he’s got the video to prove it. Although the incident occurred last September, the video was just released. It shows the horrifying nature of a problem cop who’s overly prone to violence. On the night of September 24, Del Valle, 38, and his wife had some drinks and got into an argument after he failed to notice her haircut. The argument became heated but never once turned physical. As Del Valle retreated into the bedroom and locked himself in, the couple’s screaming got the attention of the neighbors, who, in turn, called the police. Just as the argument begins to calm down, cops burst into the couple’s home. Del Valle, who is trying to go to sleep in bed is then woken up by the sound of Sonoma County sheriff’s deputies breaking down his bedroom door. Before the video begins, the deputies allegedly order Del Valle to stand up. That’s when Del Valle turns on his camera and warns the deputies, “I got you on video. Go ahead. Tase me.” Remember, Del Valle had committed no crime and had harmed no one. Yet, here he is with three armed men in his bedroom threatening to inflict bodily harm on him. And, within seconds, that just what Deputy Scott Thorne, 40, did. “Sir, I’m just laying here trying to sleep and you’re …,” Del Valle said. “I’m not standing up. I’m in my house. I’m sleeping.” As Thorne steps forward, he’s seen on the video aiming his taser at the bare chest of Del Valle who is wearing only gym shorts. He then fires. When the taser hits him, Del Valle can be heard screaming. At this point, the baton comes out, according to Del Valle’s attorney, and Thorne begins laying in to the defenseless man in his own bed. “He’s not doing anything!” his wife screams as the deputy continously beats her husband over and over with his baton and taser. The video then ends as Del Valle shouts repeatedly, “Call my lawyer!” Del Valle was not able to record the entire encounter, but the beating continued well after it stopped. According to the Press Democrat, a spokesman for Sheriff Steve Freitas could not comment on the cellphone video but agreed the deputies’ three videos raised concerns from the start about excessive force. After watching them, department brass immediately turned the case over to Santa Rosa police for criminal investigation, Sgt. Spencer Crum said. “We acted very swiftly and Scott Thorne was no longer employed by us,” Crum said. “We are very concerned this is an excessive force case. We acknowledged it from Day One.” As the Press Democrat revealed in their investigation, Thorne should’ve never been a cop as he’d been fired from previous jobs over his track record of excessive force. However, none of that matters to Thorne’s attorney who is naturally defending the actions of this brutal cop. “His position is he followed procedure,” Thorne’s lawyer Chris Andrian said, noting that he acted in accordance with his training. As for Del Valle, after he was severely beaten by Thorne — for no reason — he was then arrested and brought to jail. However, once police attempted to charge him with something, they realized they had no evidence of him committing a crime, so he was let go. Del Valle’s lawyer, Izaak Schwaiger, said, in all, Del Valle was tasered 2 to 3 times and suffered at least 15 baton blows, causing neurological damage and a separated shoulder. Del Valle has since filed a lawsuit against the department, seeking damages above $25,000. Poster Comment: As the Press Democrat revealed in their investigation, Thorne should’ve never been a cop as he’d been fired from previous jobs over his track record of excessive force. There's a real shocker!! The cop probably "feared for his life" because Del Valle had a lethal weapon nearby - a pillow!
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#22. To: Deckard (#0)
But the point I want to make here is that these fake news and yellow journalism always mention the military association with the perp but never mention the military association of the law enforcement officer(s). Had the author done this, the lead in to this article would probably been written as …
No, they aren't. You are trying to make a claim that ex-soldiers make good cops. It ain't necessarily so. Soldiers have a combat mindset, a trait we are starting to see too much of in modern policing. Cops are not soldiers. Add to that - many if not most police departments have been hyper-militarized. Cops are taking on tactics of soldiers, armored vehicles, military-style uniforms, military mindset where all citizens are viewed as criminals. Either way - the military "culture" seen in most police departments has a dangerously influential impact on law enforcement. How the War on Terror Has Militarized the Police The most serious consequence of the rapid militarization of American police forces, however, is the subtle evolution in the mentality of the "men in blue" from "peace officer" to soldier. This development is absolutely critical and represents a fundamental change in the nature of law enforcement. The primary mission of a police officer traditionally has been to "keep the peace." Those whom an officer suspects to have committed a crime are treated as just that - suspects. Police officers are expected, under the rule of law, to protect the civil liberties of all citizens, even the "bad guys." For domestic law enforcement, a suspect in custody remains innocent until proven guilty. Moreover, police officers operate among a largely friendly population and have traditionally been trained to solve problems using a complex legal system; the deployment of lethal violence is an absolute last resort. Soldiers, by contrast, are trained to identify people they encounter as belonging to one of two groups -- the enemy and the non-enemy -- and they often reach this decision while surrounded by a population that considers the soldier an occupying force. Once this identification is made, a soldier's mission is stark and simple: kill the enemy, "try" not to kill the non-enemy. Indeed, the Soldier's Creed declares, "I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat." This is a far cry from the peace officer's creed that expects its adherents "to protect and serve."
It has not….militarization of police forces has simply become the latest buzz phrase for cop-haters.
How many police departments had armored vehicles before the WOT started? I miss the days when Amerika wasn't a police state. ‘Do Not Resist’: A chilling look at the normalization of warrior cops
I want Congress to force them to park those at local National Guard armories unless a governor okays their use in a state of emergency or to apprehend violent drug gangs or jihadis. They don't need those things on a daily basis. It invites abuse and a heavy-handed approach to the public.
That would be one option. The problem now is that they are using these military vehicles to go after those with parking tickets or a kid in possession of a gram of pot. If the only tool you have is a hammer, then everything is treated as a nail.
Bullshit. Your phantasies have taken complete control of your reasoning. Military vehicles are not used that way …
You didn't watch the coverage of the Boston Marathon massacre where they ended up going door to door with a confined population, searching houses, riding in their armored vehicles and outfitted like combat soldiers? All to apprehend a 19yo kid on foot that ended up cowering in a boat in someone's back yard? The police should not be militarized. Leave such things to the National Guard and under the control of the governors.
All to apprehend a 19yo kid on foot that ended up cowering in a boat in someone's back yard? Get off that shit of describing that terrorist as simply “a 19yo kid!” Did they know he was on foot at the time? Did you read that? He could have ended up anywhere, don’t make it sound so simplistic….please. I did not find the use of the vehicles or the tactics to be excessive when hunting down the bastard….but then, that’s just me.
Boston Martial Law: ‘They were confiscating guns from residents’ Get off that shit of describing that terrorist as simply “a 19yo kid!” Did they know he was on foot at the time? Did you read that? FBI Evidence Proves Innocence of Accused Boston Marathon Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
He was not innocent at all. He would have been executed but for the usual trickery of the MAsshole court system and MAsshole pols. This is one of those events that people seem to quickly forget the details of. They pay a lot of attention at the time and soak up the details but somehow it doesn't register in their longterm memory and within a year or two, they seem to forget entirely many of the key facts about the case.
Missing Evidence of Prior FBI Relationship with Boston Bomber Justice denied: Tsarnaev’s own lawyer ignores evidence he is innocent of Boston bombing
Maybe I shouldn't have brought it up. We've gone far afield from the topic of this thread. If we've run out of things to say on the article/topic of this thread, we should start another and not just chit-chat/spat away on this thread. Some forums have a feature where mods can close a thread and lock it. LF would benefit from that, well, if Stone was willing to do that much moderation. We might have reached that point.
I haven't seen Stone around here for quite a while. His latest post was Tuesday. I think he may be losing interest in the site.
How could that be with Gatlin around always adding valuable insights and provoking deep and introspective thought (cough).
He's really outed himself on this thread. His fascist tendencies and hatred for the Constitution can no longer be denied.
Pot <> Kettle = Black.
You finally managed to tie it all to libertarians. Nice work.
When the LEOs use the military vehicles and equipment for petty stuff like you said….then I agree it was wrong. I have been thinking about Boston and trying to lean the way it looks to me like you are thinking. I still can’t see their tactics and equipment as an overreaction….maybe it is still the military training in me after all these years. I can’t see it any differently. I would want full protection for my troops and I would use everything I had available to protect them. Just a footnote, because I am still thinking about it …
I still can’t see their tactics and equipment as an overreaction….maybe it is still the military training in me after all these years. I can’t see it any differently. I would want full protection for my troops and I would use everything I had available to protect them. I don't object if the cops are going in to arrest known and very violent felons and drug gangs like MS-13 or biker gangs with criminal gang connections like the ones that congregated and had that big shootout at that restaurant in Texas a few years ago. Yes, armored vehicles should be used in those circumstances. So I can see them using these in gang hotbeds like Chicago or even L.A. But for ordinary arrests? I don't think so. Admittedly, there was a lot more use of these vehicles for ordinary arrests when they were brand-new shiny (and free) toys that local cops got for almost nothing from the feds. And the use of them has dropped off somewhat as they've faced the maintenance costs and public backlash from seeing them in use for day-to-day policing and even for simple serving of warrants. Even so, I think they still use them more than they need to. We don't want militarized police agencies in this country. What we want are peace officers, trained and capable.
We don't want militarized police agencies in this country. What we want are peace officers, trained and capable. Some say it is overkill when SWAT is used to raid a house and finds only one joint. That I disagree with. There was sufficient reason to believe something was going on to even send swat. The cops never know what to expect when they enter a place. We have read cases where the first cop in gets shot. It has been stated that the cops should have staked the place out for a couple weeks before the warrant was served. Cops do not have the man power to do that. When cops enter the wrong address and bad things happen, then the cops should be admonished in some way an financial restitution should immediately be made. When cops enter the right address and do the wrong thing….the same. But when the cops enter the right address, follow procedures and the perp does the wrong thing….then I say fine, he had it coming. To what degree, would depend on the individual case. I don’t see where I am wrong about this. If it is intelligently, logically or lawfully pointed out that I am wrong, then I will change me way of thinking on it. There are those who have the attitude that every time cops raid a home, their reason is always wrong and the cops do everything wrong. That I cannot understand and I categorically label that person as a cop-hater for his warped and illogical mindset. I digress, but following the mental mindset I am discussing, something Deckard posted today just came to mind. When the mother of the 5-year-old girl in Fort Walton Beach was trying to calm the upset girl explained to her that police are here to serve the public, Deckard asked “why is that mother lying to the child.” What did he want that mother to do, nothing and let the kid live with the fear of police in trauma the rest of her life? Actually, I seriously believe he would. And to me, that is a sick way to think. I thought the school acted properly and the police reacted marvelously when the 2 officers went to the school, talked to the little girl, let he explore their cruiser and the little girl gave them a hug at the end. Now that was a great story to me.
Just recall all the times these supposed highly-trained SWAT teams have raided the wrong house, sometimes shooting the residents and usually shooting any dog in the house. All because they couldn't find the right address before busting down doors with no-knock warrants in the middle of the night. Let's recall one example. CNN, 2008: Mayor wants federal probe after SWAT raids house, kills dogs I favor more effective policing and holding the police accountable. So do you favor using SWAT, armored vehicles and a militarized police unit in masks when they can't even find the proper address? Would you excuse it if it was your home raided and your dog shot? No, you wouldn't. No. They should be prosecuted as home invaders to the full extent of the law. Only by holding them accountable will you ever stop these abuses. And it would only take a few well-publicized cases for all of them to get the message very clearly. I agree. But that doesn't excuse rampant police abuse and gross incompetence when it does occur with defined regularity. Admittedly, there has been some decline in these kinds of cases over the years because of so many lawsuits and hard feelings from the public toward the police over bad raids. The cops know they've really screwed the pooch and the police chiefs know how bad such a false raid looks on their resume and that they'll get it thrown into their faces over and over as long as they are on the force. And they should have to answer for their gross carelessness and mistakes, just like anyone else.
#109. To: Tooconservative (#108)
I’ll have to take these one point at a time….I am between morning tasks. Let's recall one example. Furthermore, since we are delving deeply into the nitty gritty here, then “one” example does not a point make….while percentage of total can.
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This is tragic and should never have occurred. A Marine Corps veteran police officer tasered and severely beat a Marine Corps veteran as he lay in bed.
See what I mean. because … The majority of law enforcement officers are ex-military and many are still active in the reserves or National Guard.
#27. To: Gatlin (#22)
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The majority of law enforcement officers are ex-military...
#34. To: Deckard (#27)
How the War on Terror Has Militarized the Police
#37. To: Gatlin (#34)
(Edited)
...militarization of police forces has simply become the latest buzz phrase for cop-haters.
#38. To: Deckard (#37)
#42. To: Tooconservative (#38)
I want Congress to force them to park those at local National Guard armories unless a governor okays their use in a state of emergency or to apprehend violent drug gangs or jihadis.
#44. To: Deckard, Tooconservative (#42)
The problem now is that they are using these military vehicles to go after those with parking tickets or a kid in possession of a gram of pot.
#51. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#44)
Military vehicles are not used that way …
#56. To: Tooconservative (#51)
You didn't watch the coverage of the Boston Marathon massacre where they ended up going door to door with a confined population, searching houses, riding in their armored vehicles and outfitted like combat soldiers?
#66. To: Gatlin, Tooconservative (#56)
I did not find the use of the vehicles or the tactics to be excessive when hunting down the bastard….but then, that’s just me.
#70. To: Deckard (#66)
FBI Evidence Proves Innocence of Accused Boston Marathon Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
#73. To: Tooconservative (#70)
He was not innocent at all.
#79. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#73)
...Boston Bomber
#82. To: Tooconservative (#79)
if Stone was willing to do that much moderation.
#85. To: Deckard (#82)
I think he may be losing interest in the site.
#87. To: Operation 40 (#85)
How could that be with Gatlin around always adding valuable insights and provoking deep and introspective thought (cough).
#91. To: Deckard (#87)
His fascist tendencies ...
#95. To: Gatlin (#91)
Is rightwing libertarianism the new fascism?
#99. To: Tooconservative (#95)
#102. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#99)
I have been thinking about Boston and trying to lean the way it looks to me like you are thinking.
#107. To: Tooconservative (#102)
But for ordinary arrests? I don't think so.
I have already agreed to the first point. I now agree to the second point.
#108. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#107)
Some say it is overkill when SWAT is used to raid a house and finds only one joint. That I disagree with. There was sufficient reason to believe something was going on to even send swat. The cops never know what to expect when they enter a place. We have read cases where the first cop in gets shot. It has been stated that the cops should have staked the place out for a couple weeks before the warrant was served. Cops do not have the man power to do that.
When cops enter the wrong address and bad things happen, then the cops should be admonished in some way an financial restitution should immediately be made.
There are those who have the attitude that every time cops raid a home, their reason is always wrong and the cops do everything wrong. That I cannot understand and I categorically label that person as a cop-hater for his warped and illogical mindset.
Replies to Comment # 108. Just recall all the times these supposed highly-trained SWAT teams have raided the wrong house, sometimes shooting the residents and usually shooting any dog in the house. All because they couldn't find the right address before busting down doors with no-knock warrants in the middle of the night.
For you to say “all the times” is too favorable use of an adjective phrase, as if trying to influence opinion and control reaction. I would need to see the percentage wrong address raids happened to agree with your premise and intended conclusion. If you sit down and key in 4 different number over a period of years, I’ll bet even you, the perfectionist you seem to be, will at one key in the wrong number. No task or mission is always completed 100% as planned, a “go wrong” risk factor of different types must always prevalent.
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