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Title: Ann Coulter: I am through with Neocons’ endless wars in the Middle East
Source: Veterans Today
URL Source: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/0 ... dless-wars-in-the-middle-east/
Published: Apr 14, 2017
Author: Jonas E. Alexis
Post Date: 2017-04-18 09:14:36 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 2989
Comments: 25

Ann Coulter: “We have been lied to over and over in cases like this and I do not think [Trump's attack on Syria] shows toughness...I've never understood why it is so much worse to die by a chemical than to have your head shot off, or to have your head chopped off. A half a million people have died already, this was 70 people, it makes no sense, whether or not he did it."

“Oh, boy. The Israelis are going to hate my new position.”

…by Jonas E. Alexis

 

Ladies and gentlemen, Ann Coulter is finally getting tired of perpetual wars in the Middle East. She has recently said she is “tired of regime change” and of “pointless” wars. She has even defied the Neocon ideology by saying quite frankly: “I don’t care if it was Assad who used these chemical weapons. I’m tired of regime change. I’m tired of war.”

In response to the so-called chemical attack, Coulter continued to say:

“But this, again, is not the first time we’ve had a Reichstag fire for some pointless war. In the Gulf War, famously we were told that Iraqi troops were rushing in and throwing — always the babies, it’s always the children — taking babies out of Kuwaiti hospitals and pulling them out of incubators and throwing them on the floor.

“[We were shown] congressional testimony from an alleged nurse who witnessed this, an eyewitness herself, and then people looked at her and said, wait a second that’s not a nurse that’s the Kuwaiti ambassador’s daughter, and it was, the whole thing was a hoax.

“We have been lied to over and over in cases like this and I do not think [Trump’s attack on Syria] shows toughness, I think it shows everything Trump’s enemies said about him — that he’s erratic, that he’s emotional, that he’s desperate for approval — it wasn’t because they violated some horrible, you know, laws of war and humanity.

“I’ve never understood why it is so much worse to die by a chemical than to have your head shot off, or to have your head chopped off. A half a million people have died already, this was 70 people, it makes no sense, whether or not he did it.”

Well, Coulter, it is about time. You have been shooting yourself in the toes for far too long. And if you are really tired of perpetual wars, perhaps you need to start apologizing to all the people who plunked down their own precious money to buy your books, in which you perpetuated the dumb idea that the Iraq war was a success.

In 2005, Coulter wrote that “Bush uttered the indisputably true fact that British intelligence believed Saddam Hussein had tried to acquire uranium from Africa.”[1] A colossal lie.[2] Paul R. Pillar, a 28-year old CIA veteran and a visiting professor at Georgetown University, declares in his book Intelligence and U.S. Foreign Policy that U.S. intelligence agencies have repeatedly told Bush that there was no evidence supporting the claim that Saddam was getting uranium from Africa.[3]

When the debacle in Iraq produced unwanted consequences such as sodomy at Abu Ghraib and inhumane torture,[4] Coulter again was on the move to defend the Neocon crowd. “I suffered more just listening to the endless repetition of those Abu Ghraib stories than the actual inmates ever did,” she sniffed indignantly.[5]

Back in 2013, Coulter again declared in Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican that “The magnificently successful Iraq War has been rewritten as a failure” by the so-called Left.[6] In the same book, she again declared that America “won” the war, “executed a dictator, presided over democratic elections and killed loads of al Qaeda fighters.”[7]

No serious historian or scholar or even a journalist will take that silly position anymore. Jean Edward Smith, a biographer and the John Marshall Professor of Political Science at Marshall University, has recently put the final nail in the coffin of the Bush administration.

“Whether George W. Bush was the worst president in American history will be long debated,” Smith writes in his recent biography of Bush, “but his decision to invade Iraq is easily the worst foreign policy decision ever made by an American president.”[8]

Other military historians and scholars such as Andrew J. Bacevich say similar things. Bacevich, also retired career officer in the Armor Branch of the United States Army, writes:

“Apart from a handful of deluded neoconservatives, no one believes that the United States accomplished its objectives in Iraq, unless the main objective was to commit mayhem, apply a tourniquet to staunch the bleeding, and then declare the patient stable while hastily leaving the scene of the crime.

The fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq has exacted a huge price from the U.S. military—especially the army and the Marines. More than 6,700 soldiers have been killed so far in those two conflicts, and over fifty thousand have been wounded in action, about 22 percent with traumatic brain injuries.

“Furthermore, as always happens in war, many of the combatants are psychological casualties, as they return home with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) or depression. The Department of Veterans Affairs reported in the fall of 2012 that more than 247,000 veterans of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars have been diagnosed with PTSD. Many of those soldiers have served multiple combat tours.

“It is hardly surprising that the suicide rate in the U.S. military increased by 80 percent from 2002 to 2009, while the civilian rate increased only 15 percent. And in 2009, veterans of Iraq were twice as likely to be unemployed as the typical American.

“On top of all that, returning war veterans are roughly four times more likely to face family-related problems like divorce, domestic violence and child abuse than those who stayed out of harm’s way.

“In 2011, the year the Iraq War ended, one out of every five active duty soldiers was on antidepressants, sedatives, or other prescription drugs. The incidence of spousal abuse spiked, as did the divorce rate among military couples. Debilitating combat stress reached epidemic proportions. So did brain injuries. Soldier suicides skyrocketed.”[9]

Coulter has obviously realized that the Neocon poison isn’t worth defending any longer. She seems to be saying now that perpetual wars kill; perpetual wars destroy; perpetual wars incite hatred; and perpetual wars have bludgeoned America to death in the Middle East. Coulter seems to have realized that if this diabolical trend continues, it will be the end of America as we know it. But that was not what Coulter was preaching in 2001. Back then, Coulter sent an ultimatum to much of the world saying:

“We should invade their countries [people in the Middle East], kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren’t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That’s war. And this is war.”[10]

Beautiful, isn’t it? Because she was morally and intellectually blind, Coulter could not see that her own assertion was a recipe for disaster. Now she is seeing the light of reason.

Coulter’s next move is to send a letter of apology to America, to young men and women who lost their precious lives in the Middle East for the Neocons and Israel, and to Iraqi men, women and children who are still paying the consequences of the war.

Finally, Coulter needs to start challenging the Israeli regime, which now wants to start World War III at any cost.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

“but his decision to invade Iraq is easily the worst foreign policy decision ever made by an American president.”

No. That dubious honor goes to Obama for withdrawing all our troops from Iraq and allowing the region to descend into chaos. Plus we should have taken their oil.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-18   9:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: calcon, Gatlin, Justified, misterwhite, Vicomte13, hondo68, buckeroo (#0) (Edited)

“But this, again, is not the first time we’ve had a Reichstag fire for some pointless war. In the Gulf War, famously we were told that Iraqi troops were rushing in and throwing — always the babies, it’s always the children — taking babies out of Kuwaiti hospitals and pulling them out of incubators and throwing them on the floor.

“[We were shown] congressional testimony from an alleged nurse who witnessed this, an eyewitness herself, and then people looked at her and said, wait a second that’s not a nurse that’s the Kuwaiti ambassador’s daughter, and it was, the whole thing was a hoax.

“We have been lied to over and over in cases like this and I do not think [Trump’s attack on Syria] shows toughness, I think it shows everything Trump’s enemies said about him — that he’s erratic, that he’s emotional, that he’s desperate for approval — it wasn’t because they violated some horrible, you know, laws of war and humanity.

Obviously this person Coulter is a left-wing DNC shill.

How dare she speak ill of St. Donald and point out the lies of the U.S. government like this?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-18   9:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#2)

" this person Coulter is a left-wing DNC shill.

How dare she speak ill of St. Donald and point out the lies of the U.S. government like this? "

Wasn't she a big Trump supporter, from the time he announced, and all through the campaign ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-04-18   9:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Stoner (#3)

"Wasn't she a big Trump supporter, from the time he announced, and all through the campaign ?'

Yep. And she wrote an entire book about him.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-18   9:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#2)

My God, Man….you can’t even do simple sarcasm.

Is there anything, anything, anything….on this earth that you can do half-assed correct?

Seriously?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-18   9:55:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5) (Edited)

My God, Man….you can’t even do simple sarcasm.

Oh, Ann is being sarcastic - that's your story?

No wonder so many here point at you and laugh.

As far as my own comment, I'd say it is a very well written example of sarcasm at its finest.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-18   9:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#6)

Ann Colter, just like everyone, is sometimes right and she is sometimes wrong.

She may be right on this …

Ann Coulter doesn't care if North Korea nukes Seattle

Conservative firebrand Ann Coulter really has it out for Seattle. So much so that she wouldn’t mind if North Korea nuked Washington’s largest city.

Author and pundit Coulter said as much Thursday in a tweet directed to Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency.

Ann Coulter‏Verified account @AnnCoulter
Gen. Michael Hayden: N Korea will make nuke capable of hitting Seattle! Situation will be dire as soon as they can hit a city worth saving.
Deckard, laddie, now that’s the way you do sarcasm….take notes.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-18   10:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard (#6)

As far as my own comment, I'd say it is a very well written example of sarcasm at its finest.

That puke?

ROTFL ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-18   10:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#8) (Edited)

As far as my own comment, I'd say it is a very well written example of sarcasm at its finest.

That puke?

From your vapid response, it appears that you perceived my post as an honest appraisal of the mindset of the typical Trump worshiper.

After all, you have compared Trump to a King - why would you not see him as "St. Donald" as well?

As far as the comment about Coulter being a leftist DNC shill - just check the comments of calcon for an example.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-18   10:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Do you want to let Jonas from South Korea try to influence your thinking by telling you what Ann Coulter said and highlight the point he wants to make…then have Deckard come along and add additional highlighting to the point he wishes to stress?

Or, would you rather look at an actual video with Ann discussing this and then objectively and intelligently decide with your own eyes and ears if Ann Landers is as upset as both Jonas and Decard portray her to be?

Well, does Ann sound and look so extremely upset with Trump….like she wants to do an ISIS head chop on him?

Don’t let someone spoon feed you their own personal political dogma….research other available information to challenge it, to form your own conclusions and opinions.

It’s the smart thing to do….ya agree?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-18   11:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#9) (Edited)

Bullshit!

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-18   11:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin (#10)

“We have been lied to over and over in cases like this and I do not think [Trump’s attack on Syria] shows toughness, I think it shows everything Trump’s enemies said about him — that he’s erratic, that he’s emotional, that he’s desperate for approval — it wasn’t because they violated some horrible, you know, laws of war and humanity".

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-18   11:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#1) (Edited)

No. That dubious honor goes to Obama for withdrawing all our troops from Iraq and allowing the region to descend into chaos.

MacArthur was right

to prevent NKorea from happening

we should have fought off

invaded

the red Chinese

love
boris

ps

Patton was right too

Taking out communist Russia

was a good idea

pss

all communist conspirators

powermongerers like Hillary

who will trade people's freedom for popularity

should be locked up

executed

they'll do it first

if we keep letting them

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2017-04-18   11:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite (#4)

Yep. And she wrote an entire book about him.

She made money and headlines off supporting him. Now she'll do the same thing opposing him.

Ka-ching!

Coulter is about her pocketbook and trying to grab headlines, nothing else.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-18   11:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#0)

Coulter’s next move is to send a letter of apology to America, to young men and women who lost their precious lives in the Middle East for the Neocons and Israel, and to Iraqi men, women and children who are still paying the consequences of the war.

I'd much prefer she focus on the new message and continue getting airtime broadcasting that as a new ally, rather than that she be publicly criticized for not going farther with an apology by those of us who saw the folly of neocon wars from the beginning.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-04-18   12:31:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard (#12)

… he’s emotional ….

That’s not a bad thing.

When we make a choice, I see the left-brain arm-wrestle with our right. The left, the more pragmatic side, tells us to act logically in contrast to our right which puts up a dramatic fight for following the heart's content.

If you remove emotion from everything about you….then you wind up as a heartless piece of shit.

So, when Trump said during his statement justifying the missile strike against Assad that “no child of God should ever suffer such horror”….he was letting the right side of his brain talk.

I understand and feel that emotion….it’s too bad that you don’t, you heartless POS.

But when it was time to authorize the strike, it was the left side of his brain that made the decision.

History has shown that decision making has always been one of Trump’s strong points.

You should not let that bother you.

Heavens know, you have all the “bothers” in the world you can already handle. Why take on yet another one?

Why are you such a big cry baby worry wart?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-18   13:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deckard (#12)

I think it shows everything Trump’s enemies said about him ..

Meaning. you let Trump’s enemies control your mind and govern your thinking.

Why in the Hell do you let that happen?

Candy assed weakling …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-18   13:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#14)

"She made money and headlines off supporting him. Now she'll do the same thing opposing him.'

And I'm counting on you to point out her hypocrisy.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-18   13:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deckard (#12)

… that he’s erratic …
Nah, it’s just that he will not let you know what to expect of him so he will become predictable.

I think the phase he used was that he holds his cards close to his chest.

To know Trump, you must learn that for him….there are conditions when it is rational to be ambiguous, and conditions when it pays to be confrontational. The Art of the Deal.

It may be rational to seem irrational …

It may sometimes be rational to be willing to do something outrageous and prepared to accept costs that objectively would seem to make no sense. Thus, Trump is known for being hard-nosed in almost all negotiations, making his toughness a predictable response to his opponents. Consider his willingness to declare bankruptcy in several business deals, which normally would sully a dealmaker’s reputation. And yet Trump has always managed to emerge from the ashes, as he announces in “Trump: The Art of the Comeback,” with a new face-saving deal.
Trump "eratic?”

Nah….that just the perception.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-18   13:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin (#7)

Is 90 miles south of Seattle a safe enough distance?

Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2017-04-18   14:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Deckard (#12)

I flat out think he was deceived. Who better to do that than those closest to you who are secretly aligned with the enemies you made during the campaign.

Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2017-04-18   15:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Gatlin (#16)

I think this post right here strikes me as a fair analysis of Trumps thinking. About Deckard, not my place to opine.

Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2017-04-18   15:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: jeremiad, All (#20)

Is 90 miles south of Seattle a safe enough distance?

That's the funniest response to a post I have read in weeks....maybe longer.

I am still laughing ..

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-18   16:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Gatlin (#16)

So, when Trump said during his statement justifying the missile strike against Assad that “no child of God should ever suffer such horror”…he was letting the right side of his brain talk.

I guess these were not "children of God".

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-19   19:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: jeremiad (#20)

Is 90 miles south of Seattle a safe enough distance?

My son lives out there. When I visited a while ago, we went to a Foo Fighters concert at "The Gorge".

Ever been there?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-19   20:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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