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Title: BREAKING : Mark Levin “You Should Be Very Proud of Your President -a REAL Commander in Chief”
Source: truthfeed.com
URL Source: http://truthfeed.com/breaking-mark- ... real-commander-in-chief/63246/
Published: Apr 8, 2017
Author: Amy Moreno
Post Date: 2017-04-08 09:56:09 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 14097
Comments: 81

Conservative talk show powerhouse Mark Levin praised President Trump’s airstrikes against a Syria airbase, saying, “that’s a real leader.”

After eight years of feckless, dithering foreign policy from Obama and his administration, it’s refreshing to see STRENGTH and confidence back in the White House.

On Thursday President Trump launched 59 Tomahawk missiles at a Syrian airbase believed to be housing chemical weapons.

The U.S. attack was retaliation for a Syrian chemical attack on Tuesday that killed innocent women and children.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

Why would anyone be "proud" of an idiot sitting in the Oval Office? Levin is full of shit, just as much as tater.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-04-08   10:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin (#0)

The U.S. attack was retaliation for a Syrian chemical attack on Tuesday that killed innocent women and children.

Meh... A slap on the wrist...

I'm wondering why it took 60~70 Tomahawks just to blow up a couple hangars... Reportedly, the runways were barely scratched, they didn't target the chemical storage or radar systems, and planes were still using the runways the very next day...

So what the hell did they actually hit with that many tomahawks?

Willie Green  posted on  2017-04-08   10:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#2)

THe Russians say that we destroyed 20 aircraft.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-09   6:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

Yeah... but the Wikipedia says they have somewhere between 460~670 of them... so knocking out 20 barely puts a dent in their capability... especially if Putin gives Assad another couple dozen or so anytime he wants...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-04-09   8:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#0) (Edited)

“You Should Be Very Proud of Your President -a REAL Commander in Chief”

A real commander in chief does not lead his people into obvious self destructive ambushs!

Trump has shit for brains.

rlk  posted on  2017-04-09   12:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#0)

The U.S. attack was retaliation for a Syrian chemical attack

There is absolutely no proof that the attack was ordered and orchestrated by Assad.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-09   12:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

THe Russians say that we destroyed 20 aircraft.

They don't

A Pole  posted on  2017-04-09   13:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard (#6) (Edited)

The U.S. attack was retaliation for a Syrian chemical attack

There is absolutely no proof that the attack was ordered and orchestrated by Assad.

And there is absolutely no proof that a Tomahawk missile attack was ordered and orchestrated against Assad.

Latest reports show him alive and well….he was not attacked.

However, the Syrian air base from which the chemical attack was launched is a different matter.

There are reports of heavy damage …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-09   14:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#8)

There is absolutely no proof that the attack was ordered and orchestrated by Assad.

Ah ...

What we may have here, folks....is the makings of a whodunit mystery.

Military action is typically justified by public relations gimmicry. Reality has nothing to do with it. The race is on to create support jihadist public relations by the jihadists and their allies on the destructive political left over here.

Thinking people know whodunit. The question becomes one of developing an illuion of supporting enough public relations gimmicry to promote an illusion of universal support to overcome factuality over here.

rlk  posted on  2017-04-09   15:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin, MAQGA, *Arab Spring Jihad*, buckeroo (#8)


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-04-09   16:16:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Gatlin, randge (#8)

the Syrian air base from which the chemical attack was launched

H/T: randge

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-09   16:55:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68, tater the babbling idiot (#10)

tater: Latest reports show him [Assad]alive and well…he [Assad] was not attacked.

The idiot makes posts like the above. I wager tater votes for McCain every chnce he gets.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-04-09   16:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#11)

THIS STORY MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL

Get ready for it, Bubba, here is a story that does make sense ...

Syria's use of chemical weapons has a grim logic

The diplomatic situation had been looking bright for President Bashar Assad of Syria. With the help of Russia, he had consolidated his power, the rebels were on their heels and the United States had just declared that ousting him was not a priority.

So why would Assad risk it all, outraging the world by attacking civilians with what Turkey now says was the nerve agent sarin, killing scores of people, many of them children? Why would he inflict the deadliest chemical strike since the 2013 attacks outside Damascus, which came close to bringing U.S. military retaliation, averted only by a last-minute deal?

One of the main defenses offered by Assad's allies and supporters, in disputing that chemical weapons were used in the strike Tuesday, is that such an attack would be "a crazy move," as one Iranian analyst, Mosib Na'imi, told the Russian state-run news site Sputnik. Yet, rather than an inexplicable act, analysts say, it is part of a carefully calculated strategy of escalating attacks against civilians.

In recent years, as the battle has swung in its favor, the Syrian government has adopted a policy of seeking total victory by making life as miserable as possible for anyone living in areas outside its control.

Government forces have been herding defeated opponents from across the country into Idlib province, where the chemical attack occurred. Starved and bombed out of their enclaves, they are bused under lopsided surrender deals to the province, where Qaida-linked groups maintain a presence the Syrian military uses as an excuse to bomb without regard for the safety of civilians.

Dr. Monzer Khalil, the health director for Idlib province, said such extreme tactics are designed to demonstrate the government's impunity and to demoralize its opponents.

"It makes us feel that we are defeated," said Khalil, whose gums bled after he was exposed to scores of chemical victims Tuesday. "The international community will stay gazing at what's happening and observing the explosive barrels falling and rockets bombing the civilians and the hospitals and the civil defense and killing children and medical staff without doing anything."

"Militarily, there is no need," said Bente Scheller, the Middle East director of the Berlin-based Heinrich Boell Foundation. "But it spreads the message: You are at our mercy. Don't ask for international law. You see, it doesn't protect even a child."

On Thursday, Syria's foreign minister challenged accounts by witnesses, experts and world leaders that his government was involved. "I stress to you once again: The Syrian Army has not, did not and will not use this kind of weapons not just against our own people, but even against the terrorists that attack our civilians with their mortar rounds," the minister, Walid Moallem, said at a news conference in Damascus.

But the denial, as well as a Russian assertion that a bomb hit a chemical weapons depot controlled by the rebels, seemed perfunctory, almost without regard to the facts, which Western governments said pointed overwhelmingly to a Syrian government hand.

Critics of President Barack Obama including President Donald Trump say that his decision not to enforce his "red line" on chemical attacks in 2013 convinced the Assad government it could get away with anything, and that it has been escalating its harsh tactics against civilians ever since.

Since that "green light," wrote Jihad Yazigi, an opposition-leaning Syrian economist, "Assad knows that a large-scale attack against its civilians is a short-term public relations liability but a long-term political asset."

That was only reinforced, critics say, by recent statements by Trump administration officials that it was time to accept the "political reality" of Assad's grip on power.

By showing it puts no limits on the tactics it uses, Yazigi wrote, "the regime shows to the world the West's impotence and weakness."

Khalil, 35, fled his job at a state-run hospital in 2011. The Syrian uprising was in its early days, with largely peaceful protests that faced harsh crackdowns from security forces. He said he was threatened with arrest for treating wounded demonstrators.

In 2015, a mix of Qaida-linked and other rebels, some supported by the United States and its allies, drove government forces from Idlib, the capital of Idlib province. Khalil became the health director. The city then became a bombing target, and the Syrian government accused the Americans of backing the Qaida- linked group, then called the Nusra Front.

"We are aware that we are in this Qaida trap," Khalil said. "But in Idlib we have 3.3 million people, and how many Qaida fighters? You cannot kill the 3 million for their sake."

The fall of Idlib led to another turning point: Russia's full-on entry into the conflict, adding its firepower to the Syrian government's. Russia said it entered to fight the Islamic State, but directed most of its strikes at places further west, like Idlib, where rival insurgents more urgently threatened government forces.

Chlorine attacks continued investigators from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons and the United Nations concluded the government had carried out at least three in 2014 and 2015 with little international reaction.

Idlib's population grew as rebels and civilians unwilling to take their chances under government rule moved there from areas recaptured by Assad forces and allies.

After Trump came into office, proclaiming a wish to work with Russia and maybe even Assad against the Islamic State, expectations grew that the international community would accept relegitimzing Assad. And last week came the statements from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and the ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, indicating effectively that Washington could accept Assad remaining in power.

On Monday, Western officials were gathering in Brussels to weigh billions of dollars in reconstruction aid to the Assad government, amid opposition fears that they would drop their demand for a political transition first.

By Thursday, however, U.S. military officials were discussing a possible military strike on Syria, and Tillerson was saying there was "no role" for Assad in Syria's future.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-09   18:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin, ISIS of Panama, Jihad Johnny McCain, Hillary neocons, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#13)


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-04-09   18:38:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin (#13)

"The international community will stay gazing at what's happening and observing the explosive barrels falling and rockets bombing the civilians and the hospitals and the civil defense and killing children and medical staff without doing anything."

Where did this happen and under who's auspices?

rlk  posted on  2017-04-09   18:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#0)

The U.S. attack was retaliation for a Syrian chemical attack on Tuesday that killed innocent women and children.

When did Congress declare war on Syria?

Did I sleep through that?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

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Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-09   18:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Willie Green (#2)

Reportedly, the runways were barely scratched,

I saw a video of a jet bomber taking off from that runway on the noon news. The concrete cover it had been sitting under didn't even look damaged.

WTH did those 59 missiles land? Were they filled full of popcorn?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-09   18:56:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#8)

However, the Syrian air base from which the chemical attack was launched is a different matter.

There are reports of heavy damage …

There were fighter/bombers taking off from it today to fly bombing missions.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-09   18:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#17)

WTH did those 59 missiles land? Were they filled full of popcorn?

Heck, I dunno pete...

Someone said we got 20 aircraft...
but even that don't sound very cost effective to me...
59 tomahawks gotta cost a helluva lot more than 20 crappy worn out Syrian aircraft they probably got as hand-me-downs from Russia or Yugoslavia or Poland or wherever Syria gets their worn-out commie-surplus aircraft..

Willie Green  posted on  2017-04-09   19:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#18) (Edited)

There are reports of heavy damage …

There were fighter/bombers taking off from it today to fly bombing missions.

Of course there were Syrian aircraft taking off today from the air field. It was never expected there would not be.

In fact two Syrian jets already took of from the air base on Friday that was hit by the 58 Tomahawk missiles early Friday morning.

They also took off yesterday….and again today, as you stated.

But there were 26 less Syrian aircraft available to ever take off from that air base….since they were destroyed in the missile strikes.

There were 58 hits with Tomahawks to destroy those aircraft, along with infrastructure, the air defense radar and control center, work shops and the fuel depot.

All this means heavy damage in English and the same أضرار جسيمة in Arabic.

It was never the intent to pothole the runway to prevent usage.

That would have been a waste of missiles since all potholes could have been repaired within hours anyway….for any surviving aircraft to start taking off Friday and continuing through the weekend.

But take a look at this …


In a photo released by the Russian state-owned news outlet, Sputnik, the remains of two planes are seen
underneath a shelter following the U.S. missile attack on an air base in Syria, April 7, 2017.

This was the damage done only by two missiles. Stop and visualize this kind of damage to 56 other facilities and you should have a very good idea of what was meant by the usage of the term “heavy damage.”

Again: All this means heavy damage in English and the same أضرار جسيمة in Arabic.

You disagree?

Are you saying there was not heavy damage?

Edit Add:
Russia said only 23 of the 59 missiles fired from US warships hit their mark, but that six Syrian jets and several buildings were destroyed in the attack.

There are reports of heavy damage …

There were fighter/bombers taking off from it today to fly bombing missions.

Of course there were Syrian aircraft taking off today from the air field. It was never expected there would not be.

In fact two Syrian jets already took of from the air base on Friday that was hit by the 58 Tomahawk missiles early Friday morning.

They also took off yesterday….and again today, as you stated.

But there were 26 less Syrian aircraft available to ever take off from that air base….since they were destroyed in the missile strikes.

There were 58 hits with Tomahawks to destroy those aircraft, along with infrastructure, the air defense radar and control center, work shops and the fuel depot.

All this means heavy damage in English and the same أضرار جسيمة in Arabic.

It was never the intent to pothole the runway to prevent usage.

That would have been a waste of missiles since all potholes could have been repaired within hours anyway….for any surviving aircraft to start taking off Friday and continuing through the weekend.

But take a look at this …


In a photo released by the Russian state-owned news outlet, Sputnik, the remains of two planes are seen
underneath a shelter following the U.S. missile attack on an air base in Syria, April 7, 2017.

This was the damage done only by two missiles. Stop and visualize this kind of damage to 56 other facilities and you should have a very good idea of what was meant by the usage of the term “heavy damage.”

Again: All this means heavy damage in English and the same أضرار جسيمة in Arabic.

You disagree?

Are you saying there was not heavy damage?

Edit Add:

Russia said only 23 of the 59 missiles fired from US warships hit their mark, but that six Syrian jets and several buildings were destroyed in the attack.

Another report says nine Syrian jets were destroyed.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-09   20:16:59 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: All (#9) (Edited)

Military action is typically justified by public relations gimmicry. Reality has nothing to do with it. The race is on to create support jihadist public relations by the jihadists and their allies on the destructive political left over here.

Thinking people know whodunit. The question becomes one of developing an illusion of supporting enough public relations gimmicry to promote an illusion of universal support to overcome factuality over here.

I see quite a few people here have swallowed the illusion over reality.

Isaac Asimov was correct. People are stupid.

rlk  posted on  2017-04-09   21:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete, Tooconservative, All (#20)

This satellite picture and the satellite pictures in the link are from ImageSat International.

This picture shows 44 hits….21 more than the Russians said, and 14 less that the US Navy said. There is no explained reason for the discrepancy in the Russian number. But it should be noted that some of the missile hits were probably double targeted. The reason for this is the first missile will weakened the reinforced structure and a second missile comes in moments afterwards for the kill hit. Also, on high priority targets, a double hit may be scheduled to insure severe damage or destruction. [The absence of the remaining 14 hits showing in the picture is speculation on my part and based on the target scheduling in the past….I have no idea what the procedures are today, but I would imagine the same purpose from the past would be served today].

Click here to see additional satellite images showing before/after of US missile strikes on Syrian air base.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-09   21:16:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#16)

The list here shows hundreds of instances in which the United States has used its Armed Forces abroad in situations of military conflict or potential conflict or for other than normal peacetime purposes, 1798-2016.

Some of the instances were extended military engagements that might be considered undeclared wars. These include the Undeclared Naval War with France from 1798 to 1800; the First Barbary War from 1801 to 1805; the Second Barbary War of 1815; the Korean War of 1950- 1953; the Vietnam War from 1964 to 1973; the Persian Gulf War of 1991; global actions against foreign terrorists after the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States; and the war with Iraq in 2003. With the exception of the Korean War, all of these conflicts received congressional authorization in some form short of a formal declaration of war. Other, more recent instances have often involved deployment of U.S. military forces as part of a multinational operation associated with NATO or the United Nations.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-09   21:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: rlk (#15)

"The international community will stay gazing at what's happening and observing the explosive barrels falling and rockets bombing the civilians and the hospitals and the civil defense and killing children and medical staff without doing anything."

Where did this happen and under who's auspices?

Why Syrian civilians get killed with barrel bombs and chemical attacks


Largest hospital in rebel-held Aleppo hit by barrel bombs

List of Syrian Civil War barrel bomb attacks

Google for more information ….

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-09   21:56:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#20)

Are you saying there was not heavy damage?

Yes, The shelter they were in wasn't even destroyed,and there is something wrong about those photos. If those jets had been destroyed by missile strikes,why are the roofs still standing?

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sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-09   22:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin (#22)

This picture shows 44 hits….21 more than the Russians said, and 14 less that the US Navy said.

That pic leaves a lot to be desired but it is a step in the right direction.

I suppose I must be an extreme cynic not to just take their word for it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-09   22:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete, redleghunter, Tooconservative (#25)

Are you saying there was not heavy damage?

Yes, The shelter they were in wasn't even destroyed,and there is something wrong about those photos.

Uh, hello Pete, they were not destroying the shelters….they were destroying the aircraft in the shelters.
If those jets had been destroyed by missile strikes,why are the roofs still standing?

For every question….there is a logical answer.

The missiles penetrated through the roofs and left the roofs still standing….after penetrating through the roofs, the missiles hit and destroyed the aircrafts under the roofs.

That’s exactly what happened …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-09   23:05:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Tooconservative (#26)

I suppose I must be an extreme cynic not to just take their word for it.

I cannot understand why you are such a cynic on this.

If you could show good reason the Navy lied....I could join with you.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-09   23:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Gatlin, sneakypete (#27)

The missiles penetrated through the roofs and left the roofs still standing….after penetrating through the roofs, the missiles hit and destroyed the aircrafts under the roofs.

Maybe they have some reason to want to damage the roof.

However, they do brag that the Tomahawk can fly a thousand miles and hit a tenth-floor window with pinpoint precision so they could have flown them into the big open doors instead of punching through the roof.

I suppose those kind of aircraft shelters looked very formidable back in the Sixties and Seventies. I assume that is when they were built.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-09   23:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Gatlin, Bagdad Bob tater (#20)

There were 58 hits with Tomahawks to destroy those aircraft, along with infrastructure, the air defense radar and control center, work shops and the fuel depot.

But not all of them came down in the area of the airport. Reports are that 23 to 26 landed there. The rest are "hits" on whatever they hit. One missile can take out more than one plane, etc, so quit lying and trying to claim that all 58 were wonderful hits on target.

You're starting to sound like the Donald's crowd size claims for the inauguration... "alternative facts" (lies).


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-04-09   23:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Gatlin (#28)

If you could show good reason the Navy lied....I could join with you.

We get less and less information about any military operation in recent years. And what we do get is increasingly exposed as unreliable.

What we really get is just propaganda. Shallow propaganda at that.

But maybe that is all the public actually wants and only a very few people like me actually want any details. Increasingly, the public is desperate to feel good about itself, I think. They elected (and re-elected) 0bama whose policies they never really supported because they felt good about themselves for voting for a black man for prez. You see the same sort of thing with this missile strike. People don't care how effective it was, where the missiles hit, how much damage was done. But they feel better about themselves for Trump having struck at Assad and his nasty gas and they liked those cute videos with the flag limned by the rockets' red glare of missiles launching (from a ship commanded by a Womyn no less). It's hard even to add up all the virtue-signalling points you score with that. And it wasn't just Republicans who felt that way about slapping Assad around, so did Dems, no matter how much they hate Trump.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-09   23:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Tooconservative (#31)

If there were 59 missiles launched and 23 hit in the airport area, then the Ruskies might have shot down or electronically waylaid 36. This is just a wild guess and there's no proof, but it might be closer to the truth than what US gov, and MSM is reporting?

Just something to ponder. In the absence of facts the sheeple will believe the prevailing malarkey that they hear from the fake news media, aka propaganda.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-04-10   0:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: hondo68 (#32)

If there were 59 missiles launched and 23 hit in the airport area, then the Ruskies might have shot down or electronically waylaid 36. This is just a wild guess and there's no proof, but it might be closer to the truth than what US gov, and MSM is reporting?

I tend to trust the Tomahawks. In all the thousands we launched at Iraq, only one or two failed. I recall our recovery effort to get one back that fizzled and crashed without exploding. I seem to recall a second Tomahawk failed too.

The Tomahawk is loved because it is so versatile and so reliable. It is our workhorse missile. And a lot more affordable than some of our other missiles.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-10   0:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin (#27)

The missiles penetrated through the roofs and left the roofs still standing….after penetrating through the roofs, the missiles hit and destroyed the aircrafts under the roofs.

That’s exactly what happened …

You should have started that story out with "once upon a time...."

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-10   2:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Tooconservative (#29)

The missiles penetrated through the roofs and left the roofs still standing….after penetrating through the roofs, the missiles hit and destroyed the aircrafts under the roofs.

The Tomahawks carry a payload of 1,000 lbs of high explosive.

Does anyone SERIOUSLY believe there would even be a truck load of rubble left if a couple of those babies had hit those revetments?

I see no displaced blocks,or even cement fragments. I do see soot from a burning fire,and what looks like a couple of jet fighters that might have been set on fire,though.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-10   2:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete, redleghunter, Tooconservative, All (#34)

The missiles penetrated through the roofs and left the roofs still standing….after penetrating through the roofs, the missiles hit and destroyed the aircrafts under the roofs.

That’s exactly what happened …

You should have started that story out with "once upon a time...."

If you say so, and that is what you need to hear to start the story …

Then “once upon a time” [last Friday morning] Tomahawk missiles went through the roofs of these two aircraft shelters ….

And the Tomahawk missiles destroyed the aircraft in those shelters without destroying the roofs of those shelters.

There, Catfish….that’s exactly what happened and I am telling the story the way you want it to be told.

You like it better that I started the story that way….huh?

Good, then …

At 0:41 in the video below, you will see the Syrians drive past the two aircraft shelters in the picture I posted.

Continue watching that video and at 1:15 you will hear one Syrian say to another Syrian in Arabic …

So the missiles came through the top [meaning the roof, of course], right?
Then at 1:19 you will hear the other Syrian say …

Yea, it broke through the roof of the hanger.
At 1:29 you will hear one Syrian ask another Syrian, as they stand by a heaping pile of burned out wreckage in the aircraft shelter where the missile went through …
Is this the burned down Mig-23?
And at 1:23 you will hear the Syrians ask and answer …
And all of the hits came through the roof? Yes, exactly.
At 1:34, you will hear a Syrian say …
It is the same in the other hanger.
And 1:34 you also see a picture of what is left of the afterburner nozzles of the burned out Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 [Микоян и Гуревич МиГ-23] “Flogger”….a Soviet made single-engine single-seat swing-wing supersonic jet fighter.

Here is a picture of one Mig-23 showing what one looks like before it met up with a Tomahawk missile …

Ah, but I digress from “once upon a time.”

Sorry about that, back to the “once upon a time” story …

Hey, Pete….voilà….at 1:31, you will see but one of the holes in the roof of the aircraft shelter that shows where a dastardly Tomahawk missile penetrated through thick concrete reinforced with steel rebar and steel mesh …

Here is the Syrian video …

And so, Pete, it happened exactly the way I first told you it happened and now you have heard the story told the way you wanted it to begin …

So, as with another story from the past …

Goldilocks woke up and saw the three bears. She screamed, "Help!" And she jumped up and ran out of the room.
I hope you can now wake up to reality and fully comprehend that the Tomahawk missiles did indeed penetrate through the roofs of the aircraft shelters and destroyed the Mig-23s without ever destroying the roofs of those shelters….leaving only holes.

Pete, did you like it better when I tell the story by starting with “once upon a time?”

And, I also politely ask you once again …

Pete, are you saying there was not heavy damage?

Maybe you and Tooconservative should start a new ping list, called: “Skeptics Anonymous.” I am sure that Deckard would also be prequalified to sign up on it.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-10   6:55:10 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete, redleghunter, Tooconservative, All (#35)

The missiles penetrated through the roofs and left the roofs still standing….after penetrating through the roofs, the missiles hit and destroyed the aircrafts under the roofs.

The Tomahawks carry a payload of 1,000 lbs of high explosive.

The Tomahawk has a wide variety of warheads configured for different target objectives.
Does anyone SERIOUSLY believe there would even be a truck load of rubble left if a couple of those babies had hit those revetments?
          
I do, see why in Post 36.
I see no displaced blocks,or even cement fragments. I do see soot from a burning fire,and what looks like a couple of jet fighters that might have been set on fire,though.
Pete, you are a classic example of why science tells us not to rely on eyewitness accounts.

You should not believe what your lying eyes tell you, Pete.

If you are not objectively seeking the truth….your lying eyes will tell you exactly what you want to see and omit what you don’t want to see.

That’s the pure and simple truth….from “once upon a time” directly to you.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-10   7:30:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Tooconservative, sneakypete, redleghunter, All (#36) (Edited)

Here is a Russian propaganda drone video showing the Syrian air field after the attack.

You will notice they say only 23 missiles struck and there was no significant damage to the air field.

You will also notice they showed the two arched aircraft shelters remained unimpaired.

However, I just posted a Syrian news video for you that showed extensive damage to the air field and the aircraft in those shelters were destroyed.

Interesting….that some folks wish to go with the Russians and still believe there was no heavy damage to the air field.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-10   8:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin, sneakypete, hondo68 (#36)

Hey, Pete….voilà….at 1:31, you will see but one of the holes in the roof of the aircraft shelter that shows where a dastardly Tomahawk missile penetrated through thick concrete reinforced with steel rebar and steel mesh …

I don't think they penetrated the roof entirely. I think they exploded when they hit the rebar mesh, based on the crater on top of the roof and the larger crater in the ceiling.

A Tomahawk doesn't have penetrator warheads.

Here is the Syrian video …
At least they showed us a couple of Tomahawk missile bodies and some parts with Raytheon serial numbers.

I'd like to see all of these missile bodies. They have to be somewhere.

I notice this particular video offers nothing to support the idea that half of our missiles missed the airbase.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-10   9:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Gatlin (#38)

Here is a Russian propaganda drone video showing the Syrian air field after the attack.

. . .

However, I just posted a Syrian news video for you that showed extensive damage to the air field and the aircraft in those shelters were destroyed.

ANNA News is a news outfit from Abkhazia. You may recall the Abkhazians were a breakaway region from Georgia, along with the South Ossetians back in 2008. The Abkhazians are to the northwest of Georgia along the sea and the Ossetians are in the far east of Georgia.

The Russians stood down the Georgians in their attempt to steamroll their breakaway provinces, Abkhazia and South Ossetia. We didn't hear much about the Abkhazia end of things because they have a big gorge along the "border" and some really rough terrain there so Tiesucker attacked South Ossetia first.

Anyway, it seems the Abkhazians didn't get the party line from Moscow on how to report the story.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-10   9:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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