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Title: Why (almost) everyone hates the House Freedom Caucus
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/23/politics/what-is-the-freedom-caucus/
Published: Mar 26, 2017
Author: Lauren Cox
Post Date: 2017-03-26 19:47:01 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 269
Comments: 8

Washington (CNN)The rag-tag rabble-rousing House Freedom Caucus may be the linchpin to repeal and replace Obamacare at this point.

Its members, however, are Public Enemy No. 1 on Capitol Hill.

The group of conservative agitators who've irked leadership, held the line against spending bills and rebelled against trade priorities of leaders have now helped delay a health care vote at least one day. Lawmakers and staffers are taking out their unhappiness on the group.

Even the White House is getting frustrated, sources say, as meetings -- -- including one Thursday morning with President Donald Trump -- have gotten them nowhere.

Rep. Bradley Byrne, an Alabama Republican and member of the Republican Study Committee, a large group of fiscal conservatives, complained Thursday morning that the Freedom Caucus continues to throw out an expanding list of demands and suggested there was little to be done to get some in that group on board and it was time to move on.

"Those members don't change so at some point you've got to say there's nothing in the world that's going to change their minds," Byrne said.

A senior GOP aide said the caucus realizes they have moderates at risk with nothing to show for it. "They don't know how to get to yes. They just don't. And it's putting the whole process at risk right now," the aide said.

Byrne blasted the move to continue talks with the hard right in the Freedom Caucus while leaving the bulk of other members in the dark.

"The vast majority of us in the Republican conference have been left out of these discussions and we have no idea what's going on, and I think that is a problem for our leadership and I think it's growing problem for the chances of this bill," Byrne, who is supporter of the health care bill and part of the whip operation to help pass it.

Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows, R-North Carolina, said Thursday there are "30-40" votes against the bill at this point. He also tried to downplay his power.

"I don't have any veto power," Meadows told reporters. "I have one vote."

So what is the Freedom Caucus, anyway?

A brief history

The House Freedom Caucus got its start in 2015 when a small group of members came together to push for more conservative spending and policy ideals in the House. At first, there were just nine of them, but the group, which is considered the most far-right flank of the Republican conference, grew.

Who is in it?

There is no official list of members, but the group is currently led by Rep. Mark Meadows, a North Carolina Republican. Other prominent members include Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, Idaho Rep. Raul Labrador, Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks, South Carolina Rep. Mark Sanford and Michigan Rep. Justin Amash.

What have they accomplished?

The group -- when they hold the line together -- can have a lot of influence.

In 2015, they pushed to defund Planned Parenthood in a must-pass bill to keep the government funded. The group's revolt against then-House Speaker John Boehner on a host of issues left Boehner ready to retire. During the Obama years, many of the conservative bills that made it through the House never had a shot of being signed by former President Barack Obama. Now, the group could have a lot more sway.

And while the group has insisted its relationship with House Speaker Paul Ryan is more open, the opposition by much of the group to House leaders' health care bill has created a schism once again between the group and leadership.

Why they matter now

The group has said repeatedly that it has the votes to kill House leadership's health care bill, and members seem to have enough sway with the White House that they've continued negotiating with Trump even after House leaders indicated no more changes would likely be made.

The Freedom Caucus may get a repeal of Essential Health Benefits to be included in the House leadership's bill. That would repeal the requirement in Obamacare that insurers cover 10 benefits such as maternity care and prescription drug coverage. Including it in the bill could substantially frustrate moderates who want to be a 'yes' but worry that their constituents would be irate if they take away the benefits.

CNN's Deirdre Walsh and Phil Mattingly contributed to this report.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

The Dims will never go along with this,so if it is done,it will have to be done based entirely on Republican and alleged Republican votes.

Black commentators have already drawn a line in the sand and claim it was "President Obama Signature Bill that he would be known by,and killing it was unthinkable.

Affirmative Action legislative Bills. Hoodathunk it 30 years ago?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-03-26   19:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#1)

The Dims will never go along with this...

This article is three days old, written before the bill was pulled on Friday.

It's just Gatlin on a jihad against the Freedom Caucus. He's wallpapering the sidebar with anti-FC articles.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-26   20:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative, sneakypete, Gatlin (#2)

It's just Gatlin on a jihad against the Freedom Caucus. He's wallpapering the sidebar with anti-FC articles.

Why? Who is for this bill? Why save the dims again?

Obummercare must be defeated and pubs can not keep it alive or they will own it! In a few years no one will remember how bad Obummercare was when originally passed but they will remember how the pubs harmed it dramatically and thats why it doesn't work!

Justified  posted on  2017-03-26   20:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Justified (#3)

Why? Who is for this bill?

Congresscritters that live in districts that tend to vote Dim,but got elected by the skin of their teeth. Regardless of how they think about Obombercare or the watered-down version of Obombercare up for a vote,they HAVE to be against it or lose the next election.

They will claim they have to vote for the Republican version of Obombercare or lose their seats to a left-wing Dim in the next election,and that if this happens they won't be in a position to vote for changes to the new Obombercare bill come the next election.

And really,you can't argue with either point. The only choice voters will get next time is a Republican who voted for Obombercare Lite,or a Dim who thinks Obombercare didn't go far enough.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-03-26   20:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Justified (#3)

Obummercare must be defeated and pubs can not keep it alive or they will own it! In a few years no one will remember how bad Obummercare was when originally passed but they will remember how the pubs harmed it dramatically and thats why it doesn't work!

Exactly so. Allowing this bill to pass is the only way to cement 0bamaCare into place for the next 50 years. And that is why they wanted it so much.

The House leadership and the members from the liberal states in the northeast and on the west coast and in states where they did expand Medicaid rolls (like Ohio) wanted to keep 0Care for all time. They were trying to pass this to avoid an actual repeal of 0bamaCare.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-26   20:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#4)

They will claim they have to vote for the Republican version of Obombercare or lose their seats to a left-wing Dim in the next election,and that if this happens they won't be in a position to vote for changes to the new Obombercare bill come the next election.

Well, they are correct. In any given election cycle, 6-10 seats will flip for no good reason other than there is a 50-50 split in that district. It's been like this for a long time.

That is no excuse for an entire party to cater to these extremely marginal seats that they won't have any assurance of saving in 2018 anyway.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-26   20:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative (#2)

It's just Gatlin on a jihad against the Freedom Caucus. He's wallpapering the sidebar with anti-FC articles.

Anything based on the words "freedom" or "liberty" is pretty much fetish material for Gatlin.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-03-28   1:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#7)

Anything based on the words "freedom" or "liberty" is pretty much fetish material for Gatlin.

It seems that way. Some of these pieces he's trashed up the LF sidebar with were old and out-of-date when he posted them. His only criteria was whether they were hateful enough toward the brave and wonderful Freedom Caucus who saved us all from RynoCare.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-28   2:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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