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Title: WHAT ALL AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON’S ALLEGED SAP COMPROMISE--MAJ ED COET, USA (RET)
Source: COURTESY: CAPT Les Horn, USN (Ret)
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Published: Nov 7, 2016
Author: Maj Ed Coet USA (Ret)
Post Date: 2016-11-07 14:37:26 by U don't know me
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Views: 2362
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WHAT ALL AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON’S ALLEGED SAP COMPROMISE--MAJ ED COET, USA (RET)

[COURTESY: CAPT Les Horn, USN (Ret)]

My name is Ed Coet. I am a retired US Army Intelligence Officer. In my last job in the army I was the Chief of the Human Intelligence Branch for the US European Command in Stuttgart, Germany. In that capacity I was also the Designated Program Manager for a Special Access Program (SAP) like the SAP that Hillary Clinton is alleged to have compromised in the most recent State Department Inspector General report to congress and which has been widely reported in the news. Here is what I personally know about SAP’s and what I can attest to in an unclassified forum:

1. The names of each SAP are themselves classified Top Secret because the information within the SAP are far and above Top Secret.

2. SAP’s are so sensitive that even people who have security clearances giving them access to Top Secret Sensitive Compartment Information (TS SCI), an enormously high security clearance level, cannot have accesses to a SAP’s unless they receive a special indoctrination into the SAP based on an operational “must know” that exceeds all other “need to know” standards.

3. Being “read on” for a SAP is far more then acknowledging in writing that you have been briefed on the SAP. It is an in-depth “indoctrination” into the given SAP, and each SAP is itself compartmented separately from other SAPS. Having access to one SAP does not give you access to another SAP, and in fact rarely does. Only a tiny handful of people have knowledge of all SAP’s. SAP’s are the most stringently compartmented and protected information in the entire US government.

4. Unlike Top Secret SCI which is maintained in highly secure Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilitates (SCIF’s) managed by specially trained Special Security Officers (SSO’s) at various levels of command, every single SAP is managed by an individually designated Program Manager for each individual SAP covering an entire theater of operations. In other words, SAP Program Managers are far fewer in number than there is SSO’s. SSO’s are not cleared to even know about SAP’s or to maintain information about them in their already enormously secure SCIF’s. How SAP’s are secured cannot be discussed because of the sensitive beyond Top Secret nature in which it is done.

5. Unlike individuals with the highest Top Secret SCI access security clearances, who must undergo a special background information with periodic “bring-up” background investigation, those tiny few who have access to SAP’s must also endure periodic polygraph tests in addition to the most comprehensive of special background investigations. I used to have to schedule four-star generals and admirals to be polygraphed in order for them to maintain their access to my SAP. Many generals and admirals who obviously have the highest security clearances still did not rate being indoctrinated into my SAP. In fact, they didn’t even know the SAP existed.

6. Compromise of a SAP is the single most dangerous security violation that can ever happen to the USA. Even the enormously damaging revelations of the Edward Snowden’s TOP Secret SCI security compromise does not reach the level of a SAP compromise.

7. To put SAP information in to an unsecure sever like Hillary Clinton’s unsecure server is a class one felony that could, in some cases, result in life in prison. That is because such a compromise is so dangerous that it could and likely will result in the death of people protected by and within the scope of the SAP.

As a former SAP Program Manager I believe it is inconceivable that if it is verified that Hillary Clinton’s server actually had SAP information on it that she could possibly escape indictment and criminal prosecution. As hard as it is to imagine, that would even be worse then electing to not prosecute a mass murdering serial killer because even they could not inflict as much damage on our country as the compromise of a SAP. Compromise of a SAP not only could -- but without doubt would -- cause serious damage to our national security.

If it is true that Hillary Clinton had SAP information on her unsecure server, whether it was marked or not, you can be sure that the FBI will strongly recommend that charges be brought against Hillary Clinton and continue in an exhaustive investigation to trace back to every single person that had even the tiniest role in this unbelievable security compromise.

If the Attorney General, through “prosecutorial discretion,” elected not to prosecute this crime, I believe congress would have no alternative but to impeach her, and the FBI would then have no choice but to conduct a criminal investigation of her for a deliberate cover up –- so grave is this security violation.

If President Obama were to pardon Hillary Clinton for a compromise of this magnitude he would render himself in the historical record as an “enemy of the state,” and could himself face criminal prosecution –- so grave is such a security compromise. Nobody, not even the POTUS could gets away with something like this in our system of government. If anyone could escape persecution for compromising a SAP, we are deep trouble as a nation. No president who loves this country and is true to his oath would ever allow anyone, not even his or her closest and most loved relative, to get away with a SAP compromise. It is simply unimaginable that this could ever happen.

If the ongoing investigation finds that Hillary Clinton compromised a SAP, then we all should know with certainty, regardless of political persuasion, that she is entirely unfit to hold public office of any kind let alone President of the USA -- and ALL Americans should never tolerate it. Compromising a SAP is an absolute “disqualifier” for public office and access to our nations most sensitive information - period.

ED COET

Major, US Army (Retired)

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#1. To: U don't know me (#0) (Edited)

If it is true that Hillary Clinton had SAP information on her unsecure server, whether it was marked or not, you can be sure that the FBI will strongly recommend that charges be brought against Hillary Clinton and continue in an exhaustive investigation to trace back to every single person that had even the tiniest role in this unbelievable security compromise.

If the Attorney General, through “prosecutorial discretion,” elected not to prosecute this crime, I believe congress would have no alternative but to impeach her, and the FBI would then have no choice but to conduct a criminal investigation of her for a deliberate cover up –- so grave is this security violation.

If President Obama were to pardon Hillary Clinton for a compromise of this magnitude he would render himself in the historical record as an “enemy of the state,” and could himself face criminal prosecution –- so grave is such a security compromise. Nobody, not even the POTUS could gets away with something like this in our system of government.

Major Ed,

Thank you for that information, and for your service.

It is clear that you passionately believe in the program you protected and served during your time in the military. You obviously believe what you wrote, but now let me inject some hard legal realism into it.

I focused on the three paragraphs I excerpted because they are the crux of the matter.

First of all, if Hillary Clinton had SAP information on her server, we cannot in any way be certain that the FBI will prosecute anything. The FBI, like the military, is a hierarchical entity that obeys a chain of command. Those who sit atop the chain-of-command decide what recommendations will be made. Those who sit below, however passionate, however zealous, and however fired up, have no actual power to force anything. They can threaten to resign - and have their bluff called, resign, and then not get a retirement pension if they do not have sufficient time in service. Or they can leak information, themselves committing crimes for which the higher-ups can recommend they be prosecuted.

But the fact of the matter is that if the FBI Director determines that there be no recommendation of prosecution, that is the end of the line as far as the FBI goes.

If an FBI Director is corrupt, a separate investigation into him, by somebody (not the FBI beneath him) could result in charges being brought and the man being removed, but short of his movement and replacement, or a court order, NOTHING from below can COMPEL the FBI Director to recommend charges of Hillary Clinton, even if she sold SAP to the enemy, the FBI Director could not be FORCED to take ANY action. He could always do what Director Comey is doing right now: play political games, stonewall, and refuse to do anything.

It may not be RIGHT, but it is not ILLEGAL, and there exists no mechanism by which the FBI Director can be overridden if he digs in.

That's the first point.

The second point is that the AG has the discretion to prosecute or not prosecute anything. Yes, the House could impeach her, but if two-thirds of the Senate will not convict, the AG would not be removed and would retain power. This means that if the Democrats have 34 seats in the Senate, no Democrat official is likely to be removed by impeachment.

Bill Clinton was impeached. He was not removed. He retained full power and used it to the end, and remained popular.

The final piece, that Obama would be criminally liable for a pardon, is flat out false. The President has the plenary power to pardon. He is not answerable for it. A President may well be an "enemy of state", but that is not a constitutional status. If he pardons a SAP breacher, he does so with the authority of the presidency, and that is that.

So ultimately, no, the secrets of the United States are not separate, above, and immune to political control. They, too, are subject to political control and the political process. Which MEANS that the men and women abroad who place themselves in harm's way trusting in the high officials of the US government may really be the "saps". Clinton may well have gotten some of them captured and tortured to death. Comey and Lynch are determined to let her skate. And Obama may protect her from legal punishment by a pardon.

It may be, as you put it, "simply unimaginable that this could ever happen", but we don't have to imagine it: it is happening right now before our very eyes. The only way to reverse it would be to vote the bums out of office, and even that would bring back the dead.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-11-07   15:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: U don't know me (#0) (Edited)

What American's "need to know" - is that Hillary Clinton and her oligarchic cronies illustrate why American Government of the People, By the People, and For the People - was NEVER supposed to be a "Special Access Program" for LIFER REMF Crony Parasites.

VxH  posted on  2016-11-08   2:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: U don't know me (#0)

1. The names of each SAP are themselves classified Top Secret because the information within the SAP are far and above Top Secret.

No,they are not. There is no classification higher than Top Secret.

There are just different categories of Top Secret.

One is Code Words,which is what SAP are. You not only have to have a TS clearance to access them,you also need to know the code word the information is filed under,and your name has to be on the access list.

It's all a part of the restricted access necessary. Just because you have a Top Secret clearance doesn't mean you have a need to know access to anything. For example,you can have a TS clearance at an embassy where everyone knows you,but you don't get into the code room unless your name is on the code room access list. BTW,in this instance "code" refers to cryptography. That was what the famous traitor John Walker did in the Navy. He ran a Naval "crypto room" and had access to not only the messages,but to the code books. He was selling the code keys and the dates the keys would be used to the Russians,who were already in possession of a KW-7 (IIRC) Cryptography machine.

If you think the military takes a casual approach to this,you have never been in the military and had need to have a security clearance. They will absolutely hammer your ass if they catch you trying to access classified material of any level of classification unless you have been approved to access it as a part of your job.

Not that any of this really matters. You are in the same kimchee if you are caught in illegal possession of even a Confidential document if you have no authorized reason to have it that you would be if caught in possession of a TS/Code word document. Either way you have so splaining to do,and you are going to jail if you can't justify it.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-09   23:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3)

Great to see you posting, Pete. Thanks.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-11-09   23:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

What you write is true,but IF she had TS material on her unsecured computer,ANYONE that had access to that computer could be arrested and put on trial for having unauthorized access to classified information,or even for espionage if they can't come up with a rational explanation for why they have access.

In short,even though Bubbette! can and almost certainly avoid prosecution,that doesn't mean that Huma or anyone else on her staff can't be arrested. I kinda doubt the alleged Justice Department wants to face the questions giving her whole staff a blanket pardon would cause.

All it takes is somebody with a pair that is close to retirement or doesn't care about losing his job later on.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-09   23:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#4)

Thanks.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-10   1:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#3)

There is no classification higher than Top Secret.

Whatever happened to class Q clearance that existed in my day? It was above top secret. Some people at Ft. Meade had it.

rlk  posted on  2016-11-10   1:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rlk (#7)

Whatever happened to class Q clearance that existed in my day? It was above top secret. Some people at Ft. Meade had it.

Beats me. It was a code word classification,and nobody that had a clearance for it was even supposed to have know about it. I was not one of the people authorized to "be in the know",so I never heard of it.

Still,it was "just" Top Secret. There is nothing higher than the "top".

Look at it as more of a sidestreet instead of a new road.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-11-10   21:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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