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Title: Greg Gutfeld: The guilty sins of WikiLeaks and our wicked approval
Source: FoxNews
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016 ... s-and-our-wicked-approval.html
Published: Oct 17, 2016
Author: Greg Gutfeld
Post Date: 2016-10-18 11:01:20 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 2150
Comments: 12

Before I unload on WikiLeaks, let me make myself clear:

I don't care much for Hillary Clinton.

I can't stand many of her ardent supporters, who frankly, can't stand me either.

As a buddy of mine said about the election: "I don't like Trump much, but I know Hillary hates me more."

That's how I feel, and think, too. Why support someone who despises me, my beliefs, and my contributions to society?

But it still does not make WikiLeaks -- which is currently targeting Hillary's campaign -- okay.

"Hacking" is jargon for theft.

We conservatives pride ourselves on calling something as it is. We harass President Obama daily for his inability to say "radical Islam." We openly mock the gender monsoon of pronouns offered to students; we deride politicians who call taxes "revenue."

And yet, we're A-OK with calling theft of personal information, a "hack."

No kids, it's "theft." And, if it were happening to someone you like, you'd be screaming at the top of your lungs.

Lucky us, it's only happening to Democrats!

Thus we see the consequence of team sport politics. We hate goons on the other side, but we love our goons nonetheless. For now, WikiLeaks is our goon.

For now. Until that goon comes for you.

It's the crocodile that eats you last.

Now there are some lightweight thinkers who simplistically recite this common ruse: "if you have nothing to hide, then hacking should not bother you."

That is hardly the point.

First of all, if you have nothing to hide, then you're a hopeless bore. Every interesting person has stuff in their heads and in their pasts that make them perversely human.

Second, it is not up to you to decide whether their personal communications are YOUR property.

Emails are as private as private can get: it's when people talk about their lives, their loves, their hatreds, their petty opinions, their desperate pleas for forgiveness, their wild drunken boasts, their racy poems, their intimate grief, their sullen sign offs and boozy flirtations.

As to the argument that WikiLeaks is performing a service that our mainstream media has abdicated -- does that mean you'd prefer the mainstream media to steal people's emails, too?

What's offensive is not what's in those emails, but that one would be "offended" by private info you happen to be picking through as if it's a bargain bin at a record store. If you're upset about some stranger's feelings expressed in an email about religion, then that's on you for invading that person’s privacy. You aren't God. You aren't supposed to see everything.

And ... how dare anyone comment on the "tone" of an email? So, are we now all supposed to adjust our private thoughts and feelings based on how someone else perceives our "tone?" It's none of anyone's business, and it's frankly creepy that anyone would care about tone in something that ain't your business.

Fact: if you're remotely interesting, this invasion WILL happen to you. Trust me.

As for the argument that we have a right to invade the personal sock drawers of public servants as an issue of transparency, then that means we can apply that to all arenas of work.

Take media. You could say that, "because we get our information from these servants of media, we should know what they really think behind closed doors." So, "hack them."

Take health care. We trust doctors and nurses with our lives, so "we have every right to see what they think behind closed doors." So "hack them."

Take gas, electric, auto, or oil company employees. The left might see them as causes of climate change, so "we have every right to see what they think behind closed doors."

You're in the military? If you're supporting the war industry, then I have a right, etc.

You can apply this logic to anyone, and everyone.

Ben & Jerry's products cause obesity -- which leads to premature death. -- I wonder if they ever discuss that in their private emails!

The Catholic Church claims their pope is infallible -- well, I want to see HIS emails!!

And, if you happily announce, for lack of a coherent argument -- that "who cares -- this is a new era! Privacy is dead!" -- you do so under a cloud of ignorance.

And, even more important: you are banking on your own failures as a human.

For if you think you're safe from the prying eyes of the media, political groups, spies and thieves -- it's only because you think your life is worthless. You somehow believe that no one would want anything from you: you're boring, insignificant, a piece of nothing floating in the atmosphere.

Yep, you conclude, people only "hack" important people.

The fact that you don't care about these violations is a reveal of how little you care about yourself.

And that's a big mistake. For if you communicate with others, about things, about life, about whatever -- someone will find value in it -- either on purpose or accidentally.

Look at Ken Bone, that seemingly decent nobody who happened to ask a question at the last town hall-style presidential debate. Catapulted to fame -- all 15 minutes of it-- he ends up being exposed as a guy who leaves comments on porn threads. Turns out he likes to talk about porn, and his vasectomy. And that's now a story that he must deal with because America suddenly took an interest in him, and therefore a prurient interest in him, too. It was as if Gawker never left us.

So, if you applaud WikiLeaks now for their decision to publicize the contents of stolen emails handed over to them, in all probability from Russian actors, pretend for a moment that those emails belonged to you, or your dad, or your mom.

If you state you have nothing to hide, then either you're lying or the least interesting person on earth.

I hope, for your sake, you're lying.

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#1. To: misterwhite (#0)

I agree with the sentiments expressed in this article.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-18   11:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

He makes a good point -- hacking is theft -- but it's too simplistic.

I agree, yes, it's theft. But is my robbing a drug dealer theft? Is my stealing a bank robber's money theft? Technically, yes. But.

And that "but" makes all the difference. If an email contains information that would have an effect on the public, I have no problem with that stolen information being released.

I seem to recall that people had no problem with the "leaking" of the Pentagon Papers. Or Nixon's tapes. Or the leaks from Deep Throat in Watergate. Why not Hillary's emails as they relate to her tenure at the State Department?

Save the indignation for things like releasing the private conversation Trump had with Billy Bush ... 11 years ago ... in private ... before Trump even thought about running for President ... discussing things that women would ALLOW you to do if you were famous. It's one thing if Trump was currently behaving this way and the tape was used to, say, refute his denial. But what does releasing it -- four weeks before the election -- have to do with the public's "need to know"?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-18   11:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#0)

Obviously the right to personal privacy should be respected. But what about the cases where someone is "privately" defrauding the public in some way? That certainly is something that should be publicized.

I'm sure there is no shortage of fuzzy areas between these two. I think Wikileaks makes at least some effort to avoid publicizing personal information. Perhaps it is insufficient an effort but releasing personal info is at least something they say they don't want to do. I don't think they get paid for the service they do, and Assange has mentioned the enormous volume of data they must sift through before public release. What should they do?

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-10-18   11:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)

"Perhaps it is insufficient an effort but releasing personal info is at least something they say they don't want to do."

I believe them -- there's enough damaging documentation such that they don't need to reveal embarrassing personal emails.

But by releasing everything, they lend credibility to the documents. Had they released only 3 or 4 damaging emails, people might assume they were faked.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-18   11:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: all (#0)

So, if you applaud WikiLeaks now for their decision to publicize the contents of stolen emails handed over to them, in all probability from Russian actors, pretend for a moment that those emails belonged to you, or your dad, or your mom.

In all probability, it was not Russian actors. Not one scintilla of evidence has been produced that Russians did it.

But it still does not make WikiLeaks -- which is currently targeting Hillary's campaign -- okay.

It was not Wikileaks that hacked anything.

If the New York Times, or any other news source, that had been given the documents, they would have a duty to publish.

When the NYT got the Pentagon Papers, classified Top Secret, they published. It was news.

When WAPO was gifted with the news source Deep Throat, they published. It was news.

Suck it up, Gutfield. You are on Fox News Channel. Wikileaks has exposed corruption and criminal misconduct.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-10-18   13:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#2)

He makes a good point -- hacking is theft -- but it's too simplistic.

I agree, yes, it's theft. But is my robbing a drug dealer theft? Is my stealing a bank robber's money theft? Technically, yes. But.

And that "but" makes all the difference. If an email contains information that would have an effect on the public, I have no problem with that stolen information being released.

I seem to recall that people had no problem with the "leaking" of the Pentagon Papers. Or Nixon's tapes. Or the leaks from Deep Throat in Watergate. Why not Hillary's emails as they relate to her tenure at the State Department?

Save the indignation for things like releasing the private conversation Trump had with Billy Bush ... 11 years ago ... in private ... before Trump even thought about running for President ... discussing things that women would ALLOW you to do if you were famous. It's one thing if Trump was currently behaving this way and the tape was used to, say, refute his denial. But what does releasing it -- four weeks before the election -- have to do with the public's "need to know"?

This is also true.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-19   10:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#5)

>>You are on Fox News Channel.

Fox is the Saudimerican rendition of Pravda. No news there.

VxH  posted on  2016-10-19   11:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite (#0)

"Hacking" is jargon for theft.

Oh BULLSHIT. It is also considered, "paybacktyme."

buckeroo  posted on  2016-10-20   22:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

I agree with the sentiments expressed in this article.

What's interesting is Wikileaks was cool with the left before they started airing dirty laundry on their most revered politicians.

Right here on LF and all over the internet every leftist glowed when Assange leaked national secrets which could put other people in danger and ruin diplomatic relations. They were gleefully. Why? Because the then stewards were Republicans. And yes Republicans cried foul then as the liberals are doing now.

I have to say Gutfeld is right in principle. However, this is a much different age where corruption is in every stripe of the political spectrum. We are finding out how much the political masters we vote for truly look down at and despise us.

redleghunter  posted on  2016-10-20   22:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter (#9)

I just look at the situation and recognize that the Republicans let it come to this.

I've been able to vote for 35 years. During those 35 years, Republicans have controlled the White House for 20, the Senate for 20, the House for 18, and the Supreme Court/Federal Judiciary for all 35. They have controlled all four parts of the Federal government for 6 of those years.

The Democrats have controlled the White House for only 15, the Senate for only 15, the House for 17, Congress and the White House for only 4, and never controlled the Supreme Court and judiciary for even a single day.

And yet I hear how the Democrats have advanced their agenda - and I see that is true - while the Republicans have lost ground everywhere, EVEN THOUGH the Republicans have, in fact, held power for MOST of the time in question.

I look, and I see why. It is obvious why. First of all, Republicans are fucking cowards. Literally cowards. They are afraid to fight. The Democrats are not afraid to fight, and they DO fight. Democrats are brave, and they are bullies. Republicans are pussies. When brave bullies take on cowardly pussies, the pussies fall back, surrender, bend and break. Fortune favors the brave. That's the first thing.

The second thing is that the Democrats always have the advantage, because they focus on the economic needs of the common people. There are always more common people than rich elites. Focusing on the economic needs of the common people MEANS that you will always be the majority party in a democracy. Always.

I have heard all sorts of airy-fairy, dyspeptic arguments by right wingers over the years again democracy, men who do not have the courage to fight nevertheless crow that we are not a democracy.

Yes, we ARE a democracy, and that MEANS that if you refuse to look after the economic needs of the common people, YOU LOSE unless you are shit-kicking mean and willing to dominate by force.

The Republicans are pussies, they are not willing to dominate EVEN WHEN they have the power. When they had the power, they COULD HAVE broken the back of Democrat corruption, but they ignored it, focusing on their own profits.

So, now the Republicans have a silverback gorilla who actually gives a shit about the economic plight of common people, who has actually gotten the support of people who would never dream of voting for a Romney, but the Republicans spend their time shitting all over him.

Trump rightly observes the corruption in our electoral process - and says that he'll have to wait and see if the outcome is corrupt or not. And you've got John McCain out there attacking Trump. Pussified Republican leaders NEVER miss the opportunity to attack Trump.

So the GOP is likely to lose this election. Hillary will probably emerge as the winner, and she will control the Supreme Court. And then we will discover that the imperial President, backed by the Supreme Court, can rule without Congress. She will, and the Supreme Court itself will make a series of rulings that will strip away the voter ID laws, ensuring that - through fraud - the Democrats win the Congress back soon enough.

If Trump loses, it will be because of the Republicans, not Trump himself - Trump is the only hope that the Republicans have of broadening their base to include working class people.

And if Trump loses, the Republican Party is finished.

People back the stronger horse. Many Independents will become Democrats. I won't: Democrats are babykillers. But the Republicans will limp off into the sunset, defeated by their own cowardice and weakness. When it was important to fight, they chose instead to wall themselves behind privilege and make money.

So they lose power. And then the people came and took their money, leaving them with nothing.

It's the GOPs fault. Any Republican who - facing the threat to the very existence of what he believes in - is STILL attacking Trump is the REASON Hillary Clinton will win. Republicans are cowards, and the people see it. People back the stronger horse.

Trump is strong, but he cannot do it alone.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-10-21   10:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

"Trump is the only hope that the Republicans have of broadening their base to include working class people."

It does make one wonder if the Republican party really wants to expand their base.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-10-21   10:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite (#0)

Well, yes.

But I would always have to say the enemy of my enemy is my my friend.

Nobody minded the Communists too much when they were helping to defeat the Nazis.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-10-21   11:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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