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Title: A Pro-Defense, Pro-America Libertarianism
Source: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com
URL Source: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/a ... -libertarianism/#ixzz4Bbt3jK44
Published: Jun 14, 2016
Author: Keith Farrell
Post Date: 2016-06-14 22:29:54 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 2002
Comments: 12

Libertarians, it’s time to get real about foreign policy and stop expecting Americans to support candidates who bash their country. That doesn’t mean we can’t criticize the government and its policies, but there is a strong contingent of libertarians who find a way to blame the American government for every problem the world faces. People with naive YouTube educations convinced that every terrorist in the world is being secretly funded and directed by the U.S. government mix with those who tell us romantic tales about how great and free the 19th century was (you know, when blacks were property and women couldn’t vote).

Libertarianism has an identity problem. The movement is a disparate collection of various ideological views which sometimes share common political goals. When it comes to trashing the two party system or pointing out the ideological inconsistencies of conservatives and liberals, libertarians are united. But when it’s time to define how libertarian philosophy should shape real-world political policy or unite behind a candidate, libertarians scatter in a hundred directions. Such is to be expected from a movement of proud individualists.

The truth is liberty is a rare thing in this world; it has only ever existed where men were willing to kill to establish and protect it.

Too often, however, these various factions then deride the others as pseudo libertarians. More and more it seems libertarians are focused on being ideological gatekeepers rather than having a real effect on national discussion or policy. I have struggled with the libertarian label because I refuse to allow others to draw lines limiting my opinions and in doing so I have often been accused of being a pseudo libertarian. I have what some ideologues may consider a flaw, though I hold it with honor, in that I attempt to approach every issue from an objective standpoint. I don’t start at the default libertarian position as has been defined by others. I have my principles and the facts I have objectively proven to myself to be true, and those are my guides. It doesn’t matter what Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, or anyone else has to say about it. I must arrive to a conclusion on my own.

So what makes one a libertarian? Is it some subjective standard? A set of exact policy positions?

It is my belief, a libertarian doctrine that focused on these tenets would be much more attractive to a broad range of individuals:

  • A moral code that centers on the liberty of the individual
  • A belief in the power of free markets and in economic freedom as a fundamental human right
  • Government to ought not interfere in the daily lives of its peaceful citizens or their voluntary actions with each other
  • More freedom always results in greater productivity, ingenuity, and happiness
  • We don’t need government to legislate our differences on social issues

If we all agree we don’t want government in our lives and that free markets are superior to government planning, why does it matter if we all have the same ideas about how best to advocate for or advance liberty? It’s time to get out of the weeds and focus on the big picture; it’s time to develop real world policy applications that reflect these tenets.

A Foreign Policy Problem

Foreign policy is one place I disagree with many libertarians. The movement as a whole has a severely flawed foreign policy that dangerously ignores real threats to life, liberty, and world peace. There is a mix of paranoid, conspiracy theory-fueled conjecture surrounding any foreign involvement or cooperation and a naive pacifism that actually believes there is no real evil in this world and that horrors will cease to be horrific if we just close our eyes.

The truth is liberty is a rare thing in this world; it has only ever existed where men were willing to kill to establish and protect it. Barbarians, tyrants, and strongmen are more frequent because they are an expression of our raw, animalistic, kill or be killed instincts. Liberty and civilization requires knowledge, yes, but first you must be able to beat back the barbarous hordes and defend your rights from those who would make you subservient to their will.

This country was founded on the very principles libertarians hold dear; limited government, the power of the individual, and the pursuit of a freer, better society. Has America always done right? If it is impossible for any individual to be perfect, surely a group of elected people will make many mistakes. But millions of people live today with a higher degree of liberty than any who lived before them because of America — a country born not of nationality or ethnicity, but out of the ideas of freedom. And what some of our fellow liberty loving Americans refuse to realize is how many people are free around the globe because of American military might.

Recently, Brian Hawkins wrote a piece for The Federalist that echoed many of my criticisms of libertarian foreign policy.

Libertarians rightly claim trade and diplomacy are more effective at ensuring security than war. But they ignore the role America’s military preeminence has played in facilitating the post-World War II environment of peaceful trade and commerce around the globe.

Free and open maritime trade, for example, did not occur by accident. It was deliberately implemented as part of the post-World War II system of international diplomacy. For almost 70 years, the U.S. Navy has ensured and protected this system, enabling countries from across the globe to engage in mutually beneficial trade. Abandoning this role would only allow the enemies of this world order to reshape the international community towards their own narrow interests, at the expense of peace and prosperity.

Hawkins’ criticisms hit libertarians in a sore spot, showing the contradiction between their exalting free trade advancements and their refusal to acknowledge the role American military has played in establishing that trade. Again — you can’t have liberty until you beat back the barbarous hordes and you can’t have trade routes without security.

It’s always comical when libertarians pass around memes about how much better South Korea is than North Korea, a comparison that reflects the stark difference between communism and capitalism. There is only one problem — most libertarians probably wouldn’t have supported the U.S. military involvement in Korea that has allowed for South Koreans to live free and happy lives.

Hawkins didn’t write his piece to tear down libertarians and I have no intention of doing that, either. I believe now is a time when libertarians can affect the political paradigm, but only if we get serious about our policies and develop a platform that is broad enough to attract a wide spectrum of Americans while holding true to the core tenets I outlined above.

I floated these notions on a Facebook post and saw surprisingly positive reactions.

Repeating:
     ... there is a strong contingent of libertarians who find a way to blame the American government for every problem the world faces. People with naive YouTube educations convinced that every terrorist in the world is being secretly funded and directed by the U.S. government mix with those who tell us romantic tales about how great and free the 19th century was ...

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#1. To: GrandIsland (#0)

Libertarians Could Cost Hillary Clinton the White House

Damn, maybe I will finally find something I can like about Paultard libertarians ... we shall see, after the election.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-14   22:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin (#0) (Edited)

there is a strong contingent of libertarians who find a way to blame the American government for every problem the world faces. People with naive YouTube educations convinced that every terrorist in the world is being secretly funded and directed by the U.S. government mix with those who tell us romantic tales about how great and free the 19th century was ...

I think it is time to get real about liberty and freedom which are not the same thing.

yes the american government through its ideas of one world government and expansionist foriegn policy have inflicted many terrorist style organisations on the world and are responsible for the rise of our current ills through ill concieved wars against other ideologies. The nineteenth century is gone and the americans never took on the egalitarianism of the French, the liberty of the hard won revolution quickly turned to expansionist wars first against the british in Canada and then to the natives and the remnants of spain.

paraclete  posted on  2016-06-14   22:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#1)

Damn, maybe I will finally find something I can like about Paultard libertarians ... we shall see, after the election.

I still can't get past their smell.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-06-15   7:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GrandIsland (#3)

Damn, maybe I will finally find something I can like about Paultard libertarians ... we shall see, after the election.

I still can't get past their smell.

Yea, I know ...putrid.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-15   7:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#4)

The only thing I smell is the stench of fascism coming from you two assholes.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-15   8:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#5)

... fascism ...

The Fascist Buzzword

In recent media depictions of politics, I have increasingly seen the term "Fascist" applied liberally to politicians, political parties, or political platforms in both the European and American contexts. It seems that the word has become almost ubiquitous with right-wing political thought. Whether it is Austria's Norbert Hofer (who lost the election just today) or America's Donald Trump, men such as these always seem to be stamped with the giant label "Fascist" by leftists in order to sway people away. Nobody in this day and age in the Western World would ever want to be associated with "fascism." It seems to be the popular go-to term for modern liberals on the street (and on the web) that want to label things this way without possessing any considerable knowledge or expertise in history or politics.

Often the term "fascist" is applied now to a wide variety of long-seated conservative philosophies, such as protectionist stances on immigration. It seems that opposing immigration or "multiculturalism" must equate to having a racial or religious dislike of foreigners and a notion of superiority over immigrant peoples, or at least that is what the modern leftist might say.

But are these views of calling right-wingers "fascists" justified? Does it even make sense? Or is it used as a vague label to discredit somebody because you disagree with them but don't quite know how to argue with them?

I think this new fashion of calling conservative politicians "Fascist" has gone completely out of control. I fear that it will corrupt the true historic meaning of Fascist and make us unaware of what true fascism is. I fear also that calling people fascists every day will make the term habitual, comfortable, common, and so we will forget about the true evils of fascism.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-06-15   8:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#6)

I have increasingly seen the term "Fascist" applied liberally

In your case - the old maxim applies : "If the shoe fits..."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-06-15   8:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#0)

A Foreign Policy Problem

They also have an abortion problem and an open-borders problem.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-15   13:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo, yukon, gatlin, freddolt, hondolt, painedolt (#0) (Edited)

When it comes to trashing the two party system or pointing out the ideological inconsistencies of conservatives and liberals, libertarians are united.

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existentialists

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love
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If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-06-15   14:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland, Gatlin (#3)

I still can't get past their smell.

That smell is from when you shit your pants on being asked whether you agreed with Trump that American workers should not be replaced by foreigners.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-06-15   14:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ConservingFreedom, grandisland, gatlin, y'all (#10)

GrandIsland, Gatlin (#3) --- I still can't get past their smell.

That smell is from when you shit your pants on being asked whether you agreed with Trump that American workers should not be replaced by foreigners.

ConservingFreedom

Don't forget when they shit their pants on being asked whether they agreed with Trump that American's should be allowed to carry in 'gun free zones".

They had a hissy fit, saying that States had the power to declare gun free zones.

tpaine  posted on  2016-06-15   15:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: BorisY (#9)

In a word, "nothing."

buckeroo  posted on  2016-06-15   20:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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