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Title: You Can't Hack Me
Source: Hillary Clinton
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Published: May 24, 2016
Author: Hillary Clinton
Post Date: 2016-05-24 22:45:50 by buckeroo
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#75. To: Gatlin (#73) (Edited)

That's copyrighted material. Are you prepared to defend yourself on government charges that you intend to personally execute to ensure the sanctity for and about the law of the land?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-27   23:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Gatlin (#64)

But, don’t feel alone because there are other fatalists on the forum who also share your sense of being completely powerless to change the world. Well, never fear because the ole sarge is here to tell you there is hope for you. It is time for you to shake your fatalistic attitude and realize that no problem is too large to solve … and Trump is “the man” to solve large problems.

Good grief! Stop lecturing everyone here like you are God's gift to the world you egotistical imbecile.

The sane folks here are sick of your worshipful screeds about St. Donald.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-27   23:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Deckard (#74)

Amen. Well stated.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-05-27   23:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Gatlin (#73)

It's Trump’s plane carrying our “Superman!” Yes, it's our “Superman,” noble visitor from New York City, who crosses America with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men.

The president of the Trump "wet panty brigade" has spoken.

Are you fucking insane Gatlin?

Now you are claiming he's immortal"?

What a frigging loon!

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-27   23:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Fred Mertz (#77)

Do you shoot up with Deck the tard?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   0:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#78)

Are you [gatlin] fucking insane Gatlin?

I shall take a moment an answer for the poor man.... "yup."

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-28   0:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Deckard (#76)

That reminds me of the time I visited Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's home in Salzburg where I learned that he once said an interesting thing,

I pay no attention whatever to anybody’s praise or blame. I simply follow my own feelings.
This has become my life motto.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-28   0:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: A K A Stone (#79)

Do you shoot up with Deck the tard?

ESAD.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-05-28   0:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Gatlin (#81)

Salzburg

Have you been to the salt mines? I was there as a kid.

We were going to go to Hitlers Eagles nest. But it was to snowy. So we went to Austria instead.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   0:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Fred Mertz (#82)

Here stick this gag in your mouth. Now shut up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   0:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Deckard (#76)

Good grief! Stop lecturing everyone here like you are God's gift to the world you egotistical imbecile.

Good grief. Quit pretending you have any morals.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   0:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: A K A Stone (#83)

We were going to go to Hitlers Eagles nest. But it was to snowy. So we went to Austria instead.

How old were you when you had he opportunity?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-28   0:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: A K A Stone (#83) (Edited)

I have not visited the salt mines, but I know Salzburg and Austria very well. I was stationed just East of Salzburg for 2 years. Starting in 1965, My wife I visited Europe for a month almost every summer for 20 years, spending the majority of the time in Austria. The lake area, Salzkammergut , in the Alps below Salzburg is one of our favorite spots.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-28   0:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: buckeroo (#86)

We were going to go to Hitlers Eagles nest. But it was to snowy. So we went to Austria instead. How old were you when you had he opportunity?

Probably 12.

I remember it good though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   0:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Gatlin (#87)

spending the majority of the time in Austria.

I remember waking around somewhere in Austria. There were lots of statues of Kings.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   0:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Gatlin (#87)

lake area, Salzkammergut , in the Alps below Salzburg one of our favorite spots.

We skied (did I spell that right) somewhere in Salzburg when we were there on vacation. Amateur little hill skiing.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   0:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: buckeroo (#88)

Actually probably 11 now that I think about it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   0:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: A K A Stone (#90)

Kitzbuehel is probably one of the best skiing areas. My sister-in-law spent time there each winter for many years.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-28   0:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Deckard (#74) (Edited)

Let me put this into language even a simpleton like you can understand.

Trump is an insane, greedy megalomaniac. He cares only for his bottom line.

It's Trump or Clinton, unless Trump gets Bobby Kennedied. That's the way it is. Do you want to see that Clinton monster become commander in chief? Everyone that is paying attention knows what a Hillary Rodham Clinton "presidency" has in store.

In case you missed it, here is an excellent analysis of the Trump thing

Donald Trump: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/03/11/donald-trump-good-bad-ugly/

Trump or Clinton. That's the choice your fellow "countrymen" have presented you with. America is dead. A vote for the wicked witch will finish her off. A vote for Trump is a hail mary. It's all we have.

Trump says "Why can't we be friends with Russia?" Who else has said that?

TODAY YOUR GOVERNMENT SPENT $200 MILLION DOLLARS FIGHTING A BUNCH OF RENEGADES IN TOYOTAS. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD INVESTMENT? costofwar.com

Will Clinton stop the biggest ripoff in history? Not a chance in hell, where she belongs

Operation 40  posted on  2016-05-28   1:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: A K A Stone (#79)

Do you shoot up with Deck the tard?

I've never "shot up" anything in my life you miserable POS.

You fucking clowns STILL don't get it.

Just because someone is against the drug war, doesn't make them an addict or user.

Why don't you focus your outrage on the US government that protects the poppy fields in Afghanistan and protects the cartels?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-28   1:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Deckard (#94)

Why don't you focus your outrage on the US government that protects the poppy fields in Afghanistan and protects the cartels?

Because we're too busy sifting through all your yella bullshit about cops... you know, the stuff you focus on and don't follow your own advise.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-05-28   7:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Operation 40 (#93)

Is that the same Justin Raimondo who wrote this?

To begin with, Trump has taken a number of positions I cannot endorse:

  • He wants to increase domestic surveillance in the name of fighting the “war on terrorism.” At once point he suggested we would have to shut down “parts of the internet.”
  • He advocates torture of alleged terrorists and says he would murder their families.
  • While opposing US intervention in Syria – he once asked Bill O’Reilly “Do you want to own Syria?” – he now says he wants to create a “safe zone” in Syria so the refugees don’t have to come here. Call me crazy, but that looks like military intervention to me.
  • He wants to deport 11 million illegal aliens, an operation that – assuming it isn’t stopped by the courts – would be inevitably ugly and provoke massive resistance.

But that’s just the beginning of my objections to Trump the candidate. After all, one could conceivably overlook these flaws in the name of changing the general orientation of US foreign policy. And yet, in the case of Trump, even that possibility is foreclosed by his unreliability.

While Trump conceives of his “flexibility” as emblematic of his ability to make a “good deal,” the reality is that he flip flops all over the place. One minute he’s totally against going into Syria, and the next minute he’s constructing “safe zones.” His mercurial nature is on display for all to see: once in office, it’s entirely possible he could do anything.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

Deckard  posted on  2016-05-28   11:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: A K A Stone (#91)

I love Europe, too. I shall post some pictures one of these days.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-28   13:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Gatlin (#73)

Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound! Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It’s a plane! It's Trump’s plane carrying our “Superman!” Yes, it's our “Superman,” noble visitor from New York City, who crosses America with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Our “Superman,” who fights a never-ending battle for the common man to bring truth, justice and restore the American way.

You have a few screws loose in the noggin.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-28   13:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: buckeroo (#98)

Trump will fit that for me .., Trump will FIX EVERYTHING for EVERYONE..

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-28   14:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Gatlin (#99)

Trump will FIX EVERYTHING for EVERYONE

Are you high? What illegal narcotics are you injecting, today?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-28   14:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Deckard (#96)

Is that the same Justin Raimondo who wrote this?

Quoting stupid faggots now. You have fallen and you can't get up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   14:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Deckard (#96)

He wants to increase domestic surveillance in the name of fighting the “war on terrorism.” At once point he suggested we would have to shut down “parts of the internet.”

Good idea. Why should we let terrorists recruit on the internet.

Who cares what the aids receptacle says.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   14:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Deckard (#96)

He advocates torture of alleged terrorists and says he would murder their families.

I'm not for turture. But I sure would torture someone if I knew they did something to my family.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   14:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Deckard (#96)

While opposing US intervention in Syria – he once asked Bill O’Reilly “Do you want to own Syria?” – he now says he wants to create a “safe zone” in Syria so the refugees don’t have to come here. Call me crazy, but that looks like military intervention to me.

Do you and butt boy want to let Muslims into the country?

I want to kick the ones here out also.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   14:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Deckard (#96)

He wants to deport 11 million illegal aliens, an operation that – assuming it isn’t stopped by the courts – would be inevitably ugly and provoke massive resistance.

You want foreigners to take us over and change us.

Lets get real ugly with these wetbacks. Real ugly.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-28   14:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: A K A Stone (#102)

Why should we let terrorists recruit on the internet.

What is a "terrorist?" Someone or a group of citizens that is defined by a fascist government? You mean to say, a fascist government can define "terrorism" when, in fact, they operate outside the limits of the US Constitution?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-28   15:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Deckard (#96)

He wants to deport 11 million illegal aliens

I want that too.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-05-28   16:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Deckard (#96)

He advocates torture of alleged terrorists and says he would murder their families.

I am for what Trump said.

Trump said he would bring back waterboarding for the terrorists and it would be on firm legal grounding. “I’m in total support of waterboarding. It has to be within the law, but I have to expand the law,” Trump said. “I’ll work on it with the generals.”

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-28   16:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#106)

What is a "terrorist?"

You ask some pretty inane questions ... are you really so stupid?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-28   16:20:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Deckard (#96)

He wants to deport 11 million illegal aliens, an operation that – assuming it isn’t stopped by the courts – would be inevitably ugly and provoke massive resistance.

On what basis would the courts claim jurisdiction and stop the deportation required to be deported pursuant to federal law?

A deportation hearing is not a trial. It is a purely civil proceeding and the protections that apply to a criminal proceeding are not observed.

About all it takes is for the adherence to due process, dotting the i's and crossing the t's. There must still be a fair hearing. There is not much to be proven with an undocumented immigrant. As such immigrant did not pass through immigration authorities, he has no status whatever, akin to the post-war freedman (former slave). The undocumented immigrant can leave the country and return lawfully to obtain status. As with the freedmen, the undocumented immigrants could be made citizens by constitutional amendment. As with the freedmen, the undocumented immigrant is not eligible for naturalization because he is not an alien, lawfully present in the United States.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/468/1032/

INS v Lopez-Mendoza, 468 US 1032 (1984)

U.S. Supreme Court

INS v. Lopez-Mendoza, 468 U.S. 1032 (1984)

INS v. Lopez-Mendoza

No. 83-491

Argued April 18, 1984

Decided July 5, 1984

468 U.S. 1032

Syllabus

Respondent Mexican citizens were ordered deported by an Immigration Judge. Respondent Lopez-Mendoza unsuccessfully objected to being summoned to the deportation hearing following his allegedly unlawful arrest by an Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) agent, but he did not object to the receipt in evidence of his admission, after the arrest, of illegal entry into this country. Respondent Sandoval-Sanchez, who also admitted his illegal entry after being arrested by an INS agent, unsuccessfully objected to the evidence of his admission offered at the deportation proceeding, contending that it should have been suppressed as the fruit of an unlawful arrest. The Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) affirmed the deportation orders. The Court of Appeals reversed respondent Sandoval-Sanchez' deportation order, holding that his detention by INS agents violated the Fourth Amendment, that his admission of illegal entry was the product of this detention, and that the exclusionary rule barred its use in a deportation proceeding. The court vacated respondent Lopez-Mendoza's deportation order and remanded his case to the BIA to determine whether the Fourth Amendment had been violated in the course of his arrest.

Held:

1. A deportation proceeding is a purely civil action to determine a person's eligibility to remain in this country. The purpose of deportation is not to punish past transgressions, but rather to put an end to a continuing violation of the immigration laws. Consistent with the civil nature of a deportation proceeding, various protections that apply in the context of a criminal trial do not apply in a deportation hearing. Pp. 468 U. S. 1038-1039.

2. The "body" or identity of a defendant in a criminal or civil proceeding is never itself suppressible as the fruit of an unlawful arrest, even if it is conceded that an unlawful arrest, search, or interrogation occurred. On this basis alone, the Court of Appeals' decision as to respondent Lopez-Mendoza must be reversed, since he objected only to being summoned to his deportation hearing after an allegedly unlawful arrest, and did not object to the evidence offered against him. The mere fact of an illegal arrest has no bearing on a subsequent deportation hearing. Pp. 468 U. S. 1039-1040.

Page 468 U. S. 1033

3. The exclusionary rule does not apply in a deportation proceeding; hence, the rule does not apply so as to require that respondent Sandoval-Sanchez' admission of illegal entry after his allegedly unlawful arrest be excluded from evidence at his deportation hearing. Under the balancing test applied in United States v. Janis, 428 U. S. 433, whereby the likely social benefits of excluding unlawfully obtained evidence are weighed against the likely costs, the balance comes out against applying the exclusionary rule in civil deportation proceedings. Several factors significantly reduce the likely deterrent value of the rule in such proceedings. First, regardless of how the arrest of an illegal alien is effected, deportation will still be possible when evidence not derived directly from the arrest is sufficient to support deportation. Second, based on statistics indicating that over 97.7 percent of illegal aliens agree to voluntary deportation without a formal hearing, every INS agent knows that it is unlikely that any particular arrestee will end up challenging the lawfulness of his arrest in a formal deportation hearing. Third, the INS has its own comprehensive scheme for deterring Fourth Amendment violations by its agents. And finally, the deterrent value of the exclusionary rule in deportation proceedings is undermined by the availability of alternative remedies for INS practices that might violate Fourth Amendment rights. As to the social costs of applying the exclusionary rule in deportation proceedings, they would be high. In particular, the application of the rule in cases such as respondent Sandoval-Sanchez' would compel the courts to release from custody persons who would then immediately resume their commission of a crime through their continuing, unlawful presence in this country, and would unduly complicate the INS's deliberately simple deportation hearing system. Pp. 468 U. S. 1040-1050.

705 F.2d 1059, reversed.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-05-28   16:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Gatlin, A K A Stone (#109)

You ask some pretty inane questions ...

Explain your position. Answer my questions.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-28   16:46:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: buckeroo (#100)

Trump will FIX EVERYTHING for EVERYONE

Are you high? What illegal narcotics are you injecting, today?

I am definitely on a high.

I have been on a natural high ever since Donald announced that he is running for president. That was when my system began to continually release endorphins and those naturally occurring hormones make me feel so very happy.

It is the same feel-good factor I can get from chocolate when my serotonin chemicals are boosted as I look forward to a pleasurable experience.

A natural high is the way to go, Bucky. That shit you are dragging down into your lungs can play havoc on your health and may eventually kill you.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-28   16:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Gatlin (#112)

Are your decisons, based on your 'high' meaningly effective for the nation? Or are you just jerkin' off to trump's wife?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-28   16:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: buckeroo (#111)

Explain your position. Answer my questions.

I will be more than happy to do that for you, Bucky boy. But I will only do so after I can get full confirmation that you have been in total withdrawal recovery treatment for at last three weeks. Then you should have the mental capacity to see the world as it is and not see the world as you are. When you can see real truth and not truth that you perceive, which is always subjective and always wrong, post your treatment results here on the forum.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-28   17:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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