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Title: Why is Africa so poor while Europe and North America are so wealthy?
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URL Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news ... -north-america-are-so-wealthy/
Published: Apr 24, 2016
Author: Andrew Gelman
Post Date: 2016-04-24 13:57:37 by Justified
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Views: 8380
Comments: 71

A few years ago, two economics professors, Quamrul Ashraf and Oded Galor, published a paper, “The Out of Africa Hypothesis, Human Genetic Diversity, and Comparative Economic Development,” that drew inferences about poverty and genetics based on a statistical pattern.

The world’s most genetically diverse countries (using their measure of what counts as genetically diverse) are in sub-Saharan Africa, which is the world’s poorest region. The least genetically diverse countries are in places like Bolivia, which have low incomes but not as low as in that region of Africa. There’s an intermediate level of genetic diversity among the residents of the middle-income and rich countries in Asia, Europe and North America.

Genetic diversity arises from migratory distance of populations from East Africa. Countries in east Africa have the highest genetic diversity because this is where humans evolved. Populations that settled in other parts of the world descend from various subgroups of people who left Africa at different times. Thus, these groups are less varied in their genetic profiles.

Ashraf and Galor put this together and argued that this is “reflecting the trade-off between the beneficial and the detrimental effects of diversity on productivity.” Their argument was that a little bit of genetic diversity is a good thing because “a wider spectrum of traits is more likely to be complementary to the development and successful implementation of advanced technological paradigms,” but if a country is too genetically diverse, its economy will suffer from “reduced cooperation and efficiency.” Thus, they wrote, “the high degree of diversity among African populations and the low degree of diversity among Native American populations have been a detrimental force in the development of those regions.”

Any claim that economic outcomes can be explained by genes will be immediately controversial. It can be interpreted as a justification of the status quo, as if it is arguing that existing economic inequality among countries has a natural, genetic cause. See this paper by Guedes et al. for further discussion of this point.

When the paper by Ashraf and Galor came out, I criticzed it from a statistical perspective, questioning what I considered its overreach in making counterfactual causal claims such as:

… increasing the diversity of the most homogenous country in the sample (Bolivia) by 1 percentage point would raise its income per capita in the year 2000 CE by 41 percent, (ii) decreasing the diversity of the most diverse country in the sample (Ethiopia) by 1 percentage point would raise its income per capita by 21 percent.

I argued (and continue to believe) that the problems in that paper reflect a more general issue in social science: There is an incentive to make strong and dramatic claims to get published in a top journal.

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My criticisms were of a general sort. Recently, Shiping Tang sent me a paper criticizing Ashraf and Galor from a data-analysis perspective, arguing that their effect goes away after including allowing for a “Eurasia” effect, from Jared Diamond’s hypothesis in his book, “Guns, Germs, and Steel” that Eurasia had an economic advantage from two sources: the availability of domesticable animals and a more favorable geography in that innovations could be spread along east-west rather than north-south axes, with these two features favoring the development of agricultural societies.

Tang writes:

… we provide a systematic econometric rebuttal against Ashraf and Galor, based on Ashraf and Galor’s (2012) own data. We do not question the possible link between migratory distance and predicted genetic diversity: We give Ashraf and Galor the benefit of doubt that migratory distance is a good proxy for predicted genetic diversity. Neither do we challenge the link between genetic diversity and innovation or the link between genetic diversity and cooperation/conflict, although we do wish to note that the case presented by Ashraf and Galor (2012) on these two possible causal links has been weak at best. . . . Finally, we do not even challenge the data collected by Ashraf and Galor: We assume that all of their data are valid and accurate. Instead, we attempt to unambiguously show that even with their own data, Ashraf and Galor’s (2012) results cannot hold after controlling for a key variable that is missing in their inquiry.

I have not tried to evaluate the details of Tang’s reanalysis because I continue to think that Ashraf and Galor’s paper is essentially an analysis of three data points (sub-Saharan Africa, remote Andean countries and Eurasia). It offered little more than the already-known stylized fact that sub-Saharan African countries are very poor, Amerindian countries are somewhat poor, and countries with Eurasians and their descendants tend to have middle or high incomes.

That said, this new paper by Tang could be useful in that it criticizes Ashraf and Galor on their own terms.

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#32. To: SOSO (#30)

It's a shithole because you retards made it. So now what you idiots did the people you come from (Europeans) have to suffer for it. You're completely selfish and I love it. If it wasn't for the Amerifat than the West wouldn't have been crippling from its long- term disease even more.

Um no, a lot of European women like the handsome Eastern men. Nice try. Eastern men are better looking and actually act like MEN.

Last laugh? No. Technically the last laugh is with the goat fuckers since their religion and their demographics are winning. Fail.

goodnessmarlok  posted on  2016-04-24   17:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Justified, All (#28)

Im not sure how I feel about this article. There is always more to the story. . There are so many reason why.

This is the first article that I have seen that challenges the BS meme that diversity always leads to a better society. The facts simply do not support that PC carp.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-24   17:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#29)

Weak response. I guess your wife really is getting that Muslim pounding taken to her. Just shameful.

goodnessmarlok  posted on  2016-04-24   17:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: SOSO (#33)

This is the first article that I have seen that challenges the BS meme that diversity always leads to a better society. The facts simply do not support that PC carp.

I agree diversity is not always better and can be harm greatly.

Forced diversity is the worst and should never be allowed. In fact I believe our constitution does not allow government to force diversity to happen but who really cares about the constitution.

Justified  posted on  2016-04-24   17:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: goodnessmarlok (#32)

It's a shithole because you retards made it.

Who made the Middle East, ex. Israel, a shithole? Outsiders from the West? Geez, Mustafa, you are a laugh a minute. I piss on you with great glee as you and your dogs continue to f*ck camels and eat their shit. If it wasn't for the Western modernity you and your turd cultures would still be eating your own shit and liking it.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-24   17:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Justified (#35)

In fact I believe our constitution does not allow government to force diversity to happen but who really cares about the constitution.

Don't say that out loud to a DRat.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-24   17:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: SOSO (#36)

>Western modernity

Do you mean letting your wives fuck men on camera and then gleefully selling your daughters for other men to masturbate to? What about worshiping material objects and obsessing over celebrities? oh geez, I sure can't wait for Western modernity.

I'd rather live in a shithole in Syria than "Western modernity". Sweden is the most prime example of that and just LOOK at them. LOL

Also you unironically believe the architectures and advances of the East was with Western help. Oh mai gawd.

goodnessmarlok  posted on  2016-04-24   17:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: SOSO (#36)

Tommy, obviously Western modernity loves us because they just can't stop from inviting violent and criminal Easterners to their "nice" places just to say they aren't racist.

goodnessmarlok  posted on  2016-04-24   17:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: goodnessmarlok, everyone (#38)

I hope people realize this is a true racist person trying to stir the pot.

I would not waste even one word on this person.

Justified  posted on  2016-04-24   17:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Justified (#40)

i'm not racist in particular but i do dislike certain cultures or behaviors

goodnessmarlok  posted on  2016-04-24   17:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: jeremiad (#3)

could it be that those men are just naturally shiftless and lazy or they are happy with what they have got

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-24   18:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#20) (Edited)

They were number 1 in China,for sure. Other than that,they had no trade with anyone before the British came in and took over.

China was a major exporter for centuries. Silk, china, tea and several other things to the whole world.

Start with with Silk Road and look at great sea trade to India, Middle East and Europe.

British increased drug imports to China.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-24   18:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: sneakypete (#20)

Why Muslims in Spain were rich and Christian Spaniards poor?

Because Muslim clergy didn't object to individual Muslims becoming wealthy,and the Catholic Church wanted the people kept poor so they were easier to control and it was easier for the Church to own all the money and property.

No cookie. Because Muslims were the rulers over the conquered Christians.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-24   18:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: SOSO (#36)

Who made the Middle East, ex. Israel, a shithole?

Are you talking about Libya?

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-24   18:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: jeremiad (#8)

On the plus side there's no more black apartheid.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-24   19:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: paraclete (#42)

It is years of knowing that whatever one attempts to accomplish, it will never happen. Turn that into total faith of the same, and you have the custom of apathy. It is very hard to get out of, and easy to get into, as Americans are not finding out.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-04-24   19:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: misterwhite (#46)

On the plus side there's no more black apartheid.

That is just one 0bama opin, ain't it?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-24   19:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: goodnessmarlok (#6)

I guess the Southwest Asians and the Southeast Asians are genetically superior to West and North Europeans then. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Singapore are all very wealthy countries that surpass the economic level of the West.

Saudi Arabia is wealthy only because because it allowed American engineers and oil companies to install oil wells for a piece of the profits. Beyond that, it has never done anything. Asians representing the Mandarin level of population are, on the average, a little genetically intellectually superior to the average White person. That is why U. S. universities tend to recruit them to become students in the hard advanced basic sciences while minorities in the U. S. cry that it's discrimination. If I want serious conversation, I'll go to a madarin Chinaman rather that the typical American gopplehead. Conversation with the average minority member in America is like speaking to a programmed wind-up toy.

rlk  posted on  2016-04-24   19:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: goodnessmarlok (#23)

I know you're very daft sneakypete but come on. lmao.

Don't blame me because you are wrong. I had nothing to do with either your breeding or your education.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-24   19:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: goodnessmarlok (#27)

Well I think your wife would be more prone to using goats and other farm animals since I doubt you can please her yourself.

Typical lame response,but I suppose you just can't do any better. What next,you going to shout "Yo Mama!"

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-24   19:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A Pole (#43) (Edited)

China was a major exporter for centuries. Silk, china, tea and several other things to the whole world.

Plus little things like the thinking of Buddha, Confucious, Lee, and Mencious.

rlk  posted on  2016-04-24   19:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: goodnessmarlok (#31)

Which involved saying "im better" then stupidly going out and screwing with other countries.

Yeah,causen Muslims never did that,did they,20 Mule Train Mohammad Boraxo?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-24   19:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: goodnessmarlok (#32)

Eastern men are better looking and actually act like MEN.

Is that why you date them? What are you doing with men,anyhow? Shouldn't you be more traditional,and only have sex fat little boys and pretty goats?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-24   20:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: goodnessmarlok (#34)

I guess your wife really is getting that Muslim pounding taken to her. Just shameful.

REAL men don't give women poundings.

They don't hump little boys or goats,either.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-24   20:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: goodnessmarlok (#38)

Also you unironically believe the architectures and advances of the East was with Western help.

They had to be. Arabs,since the time of Mohammed,may a diseased camel shit in his mouth, are too inbred to do any actual thinking.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-24   20:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A Pole (#43)

China was a major exporter for centuries. Silk, china, tea and several other things to the whole world.

Start with with Silk Road and look at great sea trade to India, Middle East and Europe.

And they stopped trading with anyone and shut down to the outside centuries ago. It wasn't until the British came in and started trading that things changed.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-24   20:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: A Pole (#44)

No cookie. Because Muslims were the rulers over the conquered Christians.

You DO know there were dirt poor starving Christians living in Spain both before and after the Muslims,right? If anything,the poor had better chances of improving their lives under the Muslims than the Popes.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-24   20:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: misterwhite (#46) (Edited)

Apartheid means live apart. Like Native Americans on their reservations, Chinese in China town, or Italians in Little Italy. We ALL segregate by race, wealth, or sexual proclivity.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-04-24   21:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Justified (#0)

This question avoids the obvious answer, Islam for 1400 years this religion has held africa back. Don't think that because part of Africa are Muslim this would have benefited them, to the contrary the Arabs have engaged in an African slave trade subjecting larage parts of the continent to a constant pilage and rape

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-24   21:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: A Pole (#45)

Are you talking about Libya?

I am talking about the entire Middle East excluding Israel. Just about all the places in the Middle East that once were really nice places to visit have become what most of the region has always been, a shithole.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-24   21:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: goodnessmarlok (#38)

Do you mean letting your wives fuck men on camera and then gleefully selling your daughters for other men to masturbate to? What about worshiping material objects and obsessing over celebrities?

Mustafa , you don't even know the history of your sh*tholes do you?. Porn was not invented in the West.

" Painted sometime in the Ramesside Period (1292-1075 B.C.E.), the fragments above—called the “Turin Erotic Papyrus” because of their “discovery” in the Egyptian Museum of Turin, Italy—only hint at the frank versions of ancient sex they depict (see a graphic partial reconstruction at the bottom of the post—probably NSFW). The number of sexual positions the papyrus illustrates—twelve in all—“fall somewhere between impressively acrobatic and unnervingly ambitious,” one even involving a chariot."

Even Bin Laden had porn when he was killed. Prostitution was not invented in the West. Homosexulaity wasn't invented in the West. Beastiality was not invented in the West.

But I guess your idea of making love to a woman is still to first whack off her clitoris. Heck, in many cases you sheep f*ckers don't even wait for your daughters to start menstruating befer ramming them.

But wait. here's sometime interesting:

"Miner and DeVos (1960) comment that amongst Arab tribal cultures, "Bestiality with goats, sheep, or camels provides another outlet. These practices are not approved but they are recognized as common among boys." Havelock-Ellis [note 52] states "The Arabs, according to Kocher, chiefly practice bestiality with goats, sheep and mares. The Annamites, according to Mondiere, commonly employ sows and (more especially the young women) dogs." Historical And Cultural Perspectives On Zoophilia"

Yeah, the rest of the women around the world really go ape shit over guys that f*ck animals. Mustafa, LMAO at you.

"I'd rather live in a shithole in Syria than "Western modernity"."

Great, stay there and pound sand for the rest of your shit eating life.

"Also you unironically believe the architectures and advances of the East was with Western help."

Quite the contrary. The East had a long head start on the West in developing art and science. You shit eaters decided that you would rather f*ck camels and torture women instead of elevating yourself. The demise of your ancient civilizations is a grand testimony to how f*cked up you people are.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-24   22:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: SOSO (#62)

This is all coping. You wrote all of that for me not to read. Shaking my head.

goodnessmarlok  posted on  2016-04-24   23:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: goodnessmarlok (#63)

You wrote all of that for me not to read. Shaking my head.

Well if you can't read have your wife read it to you. Oh, sorry, I forgot you goat f*ckers don't educate your women.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-24   23:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: jeremiad (#59)

"Apartheid means live apart."

Apartheid means live apart ... by force.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-25   9:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: buckeroo (#48)

"That is just one 0bama opin, ain't it?"

Jeepers for orange, ain't it?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-25   9:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: paraclete (#60)

This question avoids the obvious answer, Islam for 1400 years this religion has held africa back. Don't think that because part of Africa are Muslim this would have benefited them, to the contrary the Arabs have engaged in an African slave trade subjecting larage parts of the continent to a constant pilage and rape

There always seems to be an excuse why Africa is so crappy a place to live. Logically speaking you would have to figure it has something to do with the people. Lets face it every nations under the sun has been raped, enslaved and murdered by others. Each nation had to stand up on its own and fight its way out.

Justified  posted on  2016-04-25   9:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: misterwhite (#65)

Are you inferring that South Africans were better than Americans when dealing with Natives, or worse?

jeremiad  posted on  2016-04-25   16:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: jeremiad (#68)

"Are you inferring that South Africans were better than Americans when dealing with Natives, or worse?"

I'm saying that South Africa, as a country, was better off with the whites in charge.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-04-25   17:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: misterwhite (#69)

I totally agree, and they really were not much different than Jim Crow South. The big difference was America and the communists forced them to capitulate to the 10's of millions that inhabit Africa, but never in South Africa. The Bushmen that lived there on and off for centuries, the other tribes hate them and chased THEM out completely. Hypocrisy, hatred, ignorance and jealousy has led to the whites being treated worse than the blacks were.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-04-25   19:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: misterwhite (#65)

Apartheid means live apart ... by force.

america should try it, it might solve some problems, living together by force hasn't solved any problems

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-25   19:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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