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Title: Trump: "RNC shouldn't allow" Kasich to stay in race (because Cruz is beating Trump by 6 points in WI?)
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CBS News
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald- ... w-john-kasich-to-stay-in-race/
Published: Apr 3, 2016
Author: Reena Flores
Post Date: 2016-04-03 19:05:18 by Hondo68
Keywords: None
Views: 9031
Comments: 35
Donald Trump is pushing for the Republican National Committee (RNC) to disqualify John Kasich from the party's primary race, calling it "unfair" that the Ohio governor is continuing his presidential bid with just one state win under his belt. "Kasich shouldn't be allowed to continue and the RNC shouldn't allow him to continue," Trump told reporters Sunday at a campaign stop in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. "And Kasich has more of an impact on me than he does on Cruz, in my opinion." "I mentioned it to the RNC," he added. "I said, why is a guy allowed to run? All he's doing is just he goes from place to place, and loses, and he keeps from running...He doesn't have to run and take my votes. Because he's taking my votes. He's not taking Cruz's votes." When asked under what grounds Kasich ought to be barred from the race, Trump ticked off a list of his former opponents: "Under the grounds that Rand Paul could've stayed in and he had nothing, Marco Rubio could have stayed in, Jeb Bush could have stayed in. They all could have stayed in. They could have just stayed in. That's all he's doing. He's one for 29." Referring to Kasich's one state win in Ohio, where he serves as governor, Trump said that if he had "spent one more day" in the Midwestern state, "I would have beaten him cause I came pretty close." Last month, Kasich won Ohio with an 11-point advantage, earning all of the state's 66 delegates. Later, the GOP front-runner suggested that he would not be opposed to Kasich having his name still up for a vote in at the Republicans' summer convention. "Other people were doing much better than Kasich and they left the race because they knew they couldn't win," Trump said. "Now, if he wants to have his name put in, which is what he's looking to do because he can't win he's so far behind, but if he wanted to have his name put in he could have his name put in." Trump, who took questions from the press as he sat down to eat a meal at a Milwaukee diner, aired one other complaint about the nomination process: that the number needed to guarantee his name on the party's ticket -- 1,237 delegates -- presented an unfair obstacle. "It's very unfair, the 1,237," he said, though he assured reporters that that "I think I'll get there." "What's unfair is this -- we had 17 candidates," Trump added. "Those early states, there were so many people." Earlier on Sunday, RNC chair Reince Priebus defended the nomination process on CBS' "Face the Nation." "You have to have a majority," Priebus said. "There's nothing that's going to change that rule. A majority of delegates is needed. Just like it was for Abe Lincoln in 1860. It's needed today...That's not gonna change." Trump, a New York real estate mogul, is campaigning in Wisconsin ahead of the state's Tuesday primary, where 42 delegates are up for grabs. According to a recent CBS News poll, Trump trails Texas Sen. Ted Cruz by a six-point margin in the state. Poster Comment: Trump should drop out. America doesn't want to hear him whine for 4 years about how "unfair" everything is, or even for the six months leading up to his loss in November. What a crybaby loser!
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
Hondopehead want to listen to this for 8 years.
How ignorant can he be? There's nothing the RNC can do to stop Kasich. If they were so powerful, they would have ejected Trump a long time ago. How exactly is it unfair, other than Trump doesn't like it because someone finally told the dumbass that he's unlikely to make it to 1237, now that he's going to lose Wisconsin on Tuesday. And after he failed to consolidate his voting victories into delegates and Cruz is taking those delegates away from him because Cruz is a smarter and more organized pol. I suppose it's unfair mostly because Trump doesn't like it.
If I was Trump, I would have answered because under the current rules, only Trump has satisfied (and is the only one likley to satify) rule 40(b): (b) Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination. Notwithstanding any other provisions of these rules or any rule of the House of Representatives, to demonstrate the support required of this paragraph a certificate evidencing the affirmative written support of the required number of permanently seated delegates from each of the eight (8) or more states shall have been submitted to the secretary of the convention not later than one (1) hour prior to the placing of the names of candidates for nomination pursuant to this rule and the established order of business. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't
They don't need worry about no stinking rules. They intend to change them.
If necessary. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't
That version of Rule 40B was created only for the 2012 convention. They had limited primetime speaking slots and the Romney crew did not want to give Ron Paul a convention speech because he refused to endorse Romney. Cruz will almost certainly qualify along with Trump. It's Kasich who won't make it. I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped it, at least lower than eight. I doubt they'll drop it all the way to one state which is what Kasich would need. And if it is just 1-2 states needed, that almost invites mischief in future elections with candidates running just so they could grab the delegates of the one or two states they could ever win just so they could play kingmaker at the convention. The RNC definitely does not want that.
Yeah. You got it. That's the reason. Weren't you and all the other anti- Trump agitators demanding -- not that long ago -- these low-delegate candidates drop out because once it was head-to-head, Cruz would prevail?
Ah. Because Cruz is "smarter and more organized", huh? Not because he's a lying, cheating, scum-sucking pol.
Yes, exactly. Your guy, the supposed world champion dealmaker, has demonstrated that he is incapable of reading the "fine print" of politics. Now he wants to claim he wuz cheated. In politics, it isn't just your policy positions, it is also about how well you play a complex game. Cruz has invested in and planned for this scenario from the very beginning. And now it's paying off. So Trump wants to call foul. This is exactly how Xlinton lost to 0bama in 2008. Carelessness in locking down caucus delegates and securing slots for solid Xlinton delegates when it came time to fill those delegate slots with actual people.
Cruz probably will not garner the majority of the delegates in at least eight state primaries as stipulated in rule 40(b). As far as I know, Cruz has only one so far (Tx). The rnc is claiming the rule was always meant to be temporary, it was written specifically to keep Paul from being a factor and a different means will be used to keep Trump from being the only name on the first round ballot. In short, rule 40(b) is moot. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't
LOL, where do you come up with these! ? :)
For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
The disaster is reaching critical mass. How's that FBI email investigation going? Only a Hitlery indictment can stave off the bleeding GOP. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
Cheated? He wants to know why Kasich is still running with zero mathematical chance of winning the nomination. He wants to know why the RNC doesn't say something "for the good of the party". You know they would if JEB! was the frontrunner and Trump was stealing his votes.
The closer the indictment is to the election, the louder the Democrats will call foul. I'd bet a lot of money that the average Hillary supporter has no idea that she's about to be indicted for violating national security. Meaning, when it's announced, they will immediately blame the Republicans for dirty tricks.
By what legal means do you or your man-crush imagine that the RNC has any power whatsoever to knock out any candidate? They've never done so before and it's happened plenty of times. Any candidate can go all the way to the convention if they want to. If the RNC were so powerful as you and Trump imagine, it is Trump himself that would have already gotten dumped in a New York minute. Not Kasich.
Kasich is good for the GOPe.
[crickets]
The have the power to talk to the candidate. Have they? Have they asked him to drop out "for the good of the party"? He won one state -- where he is Governor. That's it. Why is he staying in? "Because he can". Great insightful response.
And that's why he continues to run. He hopes to get a back door nomination. Which is the last thing Too Conservative will admit.
Or some other door prize.
Hillary cannot be indicted without the consent of Obama. The FBI can only RECOMMEND indictment, but the Attorney-General actually has to carry it forward, and the Attorney-General works for the President. Hillary will not be indicted unless Obama has someone waiting in the wings (which is unlikely at this point). So, either the Trump supporters will defeat this effort to stop Trump or Hillary will be the next President.
Probably he is going to strong-arm the nominee into picking him as VP. He seems to have burned some bridges with Trump as far as being VP, questioning his fitness and temperament. Still, Kasich has not gone nearly so far as Rubio did, or as Rand or Perry or Jeb or Jindal. They all bashed Trump so harshly they couldn't be VP now. All were far worse to Trump than Poppy Bush was when attacking Reagan and his "voodoo economics" in 1988, for instance. Kasich is hoping the GOPe will pick him after Trump fails on the first ballot, hoping that the party will reject Cruz on subsequent ballots, despite Cruz's strong delegate game. And Kasich is the first popular GOP governor in Ohio in a long time. And the GOP must have Ohio to win the WH. There is no winning map without Ohio as its anchor point. The Dems have several paths to win without Ohio; the GOP has none.
Except that I've "admitted" it all along. But today isn't the the day to start letting some puny facts stand in your way.
There have been rumors that Kasich likes the back door. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
Boy, all he can do lately is blubber and whine about what's "unfair". To say he's talking like a 5-year-old would be unfair to 5-year-olds. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
If he's too squeamish to watch Fargo, it's unlikely he could stomach male sodomy.
Too Conservative and the GOPe think they're being so clever with their behind-the-scene convention machinations. "Rules are rules", they'd say. "Not our fault", they'd say. If Trump walks into the convention with the lion's share of the delegates and doesn't walk out with the nomination -- FOR WHATEVER REASON -- his supporters will revolt and simply stay home.
No rule against it.
It's better than 50% of the GOP staying home because Trump became the nominee. And you wouldn't lost the Senate or the House with any nominee not named Trump. You have a false premise: that Trump taking his ball and going home is the worst thing that can happen to the GOP. But it isn't as far as the GOP is concerned. Increasingly this is the view of the GOP voters as well. Trump has opened his big fat mouth too many times. And the majority of GOP voters have reached a firm opinion of him.
I suspect it may go further than just staying home.
What, they're going to stay home and riot? Fine, tear the trailer park to pieces if that floats yer boat.
Straight to the straw man. I never said anything about "riot."
If there was, it only applied to the 2012 election.
The GOP turnout in 2012 was 27% of eligible voters. So a 50% turnout for Trump would would be would be huuuge. "Increasingly this is the view of the GOP voters as well." I said, "If Trump walks into the convention with the lion's share of the delegates and doesn't walk out with the nomination, his supporters will revolt and simply stay home." If the GOP voters don't give him a majority -- as you imply -- that's a different story.
#2. To: hondo68 (#0)
(Edited)
"Kasich shouldn't be allowed to continue and the RNC shouldn't allow him to continue," Trump told reporters Sunday at a campaign stop in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. "And Kasich has more of an impact on me than he does on Cruz, in my opinion."
"It's very unfair, the 1,237," he said, though he assured reporters that that "I think I'll get there."
#3. To: hondo68 (#0)
"Under the grounds that Rand Paul could've stayed in and he had nothing, Marco Rubio could have stayed in, Jeb Bush could have stayed in. They all could have stayed in. They could have just stayed in. That's all he's doing. He's one for 29."
#4. To: cranky (#3)
rule 40(b)
#5. To: Roscoe (#4)
They intend to change them.
#6. To: A K A Stone (#1)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#7. To: cranky, hondo68 (#3)
If I was Trump, I would have answered because under the current rules, only Trump has satisfied (and is the only one likley to satify) rule 40(b):
#8. To: hondo68 (#0)
(Edited)
"Trump: "RNC shouldn't allow" Kasich to stay in race (because Cr Cruz is beating Trump by 6 points in WI?)"
#9. To: TooConservative (#2)
"and Cruz is taking those delegates away from him because Cruz is a smarter and more organized pol."
#10. To: misterwhite (#9)
Ah. Because Cruz is "smarter and more organized", huh? Not because he's a lying, cheating, scum-sucking pol.
#11. To: TooConservative (#7)
Cruz will almost certainly qualify along with Trump.
#12. To: hondo68 (#6)
#13. To: TooConservative (#2)
#14. To: TooConservative (#10)
"Now he wants to claim he wuz cheated."
#15. To: redleghunter (#13)
"How's that FBI email investigation going? Only a Hitlery indictment can stave off the bleeding GOP."
#16. To: misterwhite (#14)
Cheated? He wants to know why Kasich is still running with zero mathematical chance of winning the nomination. He wants to know why the RNC doesn't say something "for the good of the party".
#17. To: misterwhite (#14)
He wants to know why the RNC doesn't say something "for the good of the party".
#18. To: misterwhite (#8)
Weren't you and all the other anti- Trump agitators demanding -- not that long ago -- these low-delegate candidates drop out because once it was head-to-head, Cruz would prevail?
#19. To: TooConservative (#16)
"that the RNC has any power whatsoever to knock out any candidate?"
#20. To: Roscoe (#17)
"Kasich is good for the GOPe."
#21. To: misterwhite (#20)
He hopes to get a back door nomination.
#22. To: redleghunter (#13)
How's that FBI email investigation going? Only a Hitlery indictment can stave off the bleeding GOP.
#23. To: misterwhite (#19)
He won one state -- where he is Governor. That's it. Why is he staying in?
#24. To: misterwhite (#20)
Which is the last thing Too Conservative will admit.
#25. To: misterwhite (#20)
He hopes to get a back door nomination.
#26. To: hondo68 (#0)
"It's very unfair that Kasich stays in, is my opinion." - www.jsonline.com/news/sta...99699270z1-374414601.html
#27. To: ConservingFreedom (#25)
There have been rumors that Kasich likes the back door.
#28. To: Roscoe, Too Conservative (#21)
#29. To: misterwhite (#28)
his supporters will revolt and simply stay home
#30. To: misterwhite (#28)
If Trump walks into the convention with the lion's share of the delegates and doesn't walk out with the nomination -- FOR WHATEVER REASON -- his supporters will revolt and simply stay home.
#31. To: TooConservative (#30)
You have a false premise: that Trump taking his ball and going home is the worst thing that can happen to the GOP.
#32. To: Roscoe (#31)
I suspect it may go further than just staying home.
#33. To: TooConservative (#32)
and riot?
#34. To: Roscoe (#29)
"No rule against it."
#35. To: TooConservative (#30)
(Edited)
"It's better than 50% of the GOP staying home because Trump be became the nominee."
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