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Title: GOP Debate: ABC - New Hampshire LIVE
Source: ABC NWO GOP
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Live?stream=1
Published: Feb 6, 2016
Author: D&R Crime Syndicate
Post Date: 2016-02-06 20:20:50 by Hondo68
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#1. To: hondo68, (#0)

I have decided to vote for Jeb! Jeb! mimicks boris with exclaimation marcks!

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-06   20:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

I haven't seen anything too exciting yet. Carson whined about Iowa, Cruz offered a good explanation and an I'm-sorry-CNN-did-this-to-you-Ben apology.

I see the theme of the evening seems to be attacking Rubio by Bush and Christie with Trump getting in a shot or two.

Rubio knows he's the target for the rest of the field. He's trying to hold them off and look for a chance to dent Trump.

I don't see this bunch doing much to take on Trump directly tonight. They may think Trump has it in the bag in NH already. Trump certainly thinks he does.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-06   20:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

Trump isn't getting much time, is the impression I'm getting.

They're pushing Jeb! and Rubio.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-02-06   20:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#1) (Edited)

Cris Christie told a moving story of ordering pizza and drinking beer. Good experience for the prez job.

That's decisive executive action!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-02-06   20:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#4)

I was wondering how lardass was doing. Thanks.

I have it on in the other room, but I'm not following it closely.

In a month or so it will all be decided before I get a chance for input.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-06   21:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#2)

I don't see this bunch doing much to take on Trump directly tonight.

IF I were advising a candidate,I'd be telling him to do his best to ignore Trump. Make him seem irrelevant,and don't give him a chance to gain the spotlight.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-07   7:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#6)

IF I were advising a candidate,I'd be telling him to do his best to ignore Trump. Make him seem irrelevant,and don't give him a chance to gain the spotlight.

I couldn't disagree more.

Trump told us he would bring back waterboarding. "And a lot worse". The other candidates should rightly have started asking what he meant by that.

  1. "Should we rip out their fingernails?"
  2. "Should we skin them alive to get information?
  3. "Should we amputate their fingers, toes, carve up their genitals?"
  4. "If they are hardened against torture, should we torture or kill their family members to make them talk?"
  5. "Should we torture them if we just have some rumors of an attack or do we have to have solid evidence that an attack is imminent?"

Trump also said that in the Mideast (meaning Iraq/Libya/Syria) we should "take their oil". He's said this before.

The people of these countries -- the entire region really -- live off the income of these nationalized oil resources. So questions should be:

  1. "So you intend to invade these countries, garrison them permanently with troops and send in multinational oil companies to extract and ship the oil of Iraq (or Syria or Libya) to the West and to Asia?"
  2. "What will these countries, nearly all of whom subsidize food purchases (bread in particular), do to pay for food? Will you allow the peoples of these countries to starve after you take their oil?"
  3. "Mister Trump, are you running for president or head pirate?"
  4. "Mister Trump, are you a Viking?"

So, no, you will not stop Trump, now or later, by refusing to take him on. And the GOP donors are foolish to give any money to candidates who keep letting Trump skate by so easily.

Jeb was the only one who really took Trump on over eminent domain. Even his attack wasn't all that effective. But this is a very real issue in NH with two big cases involving eminent domain in the state. In northern NH, there is an attempt to build huge power lines across private lands and in southern NH (where a lot of the state's GOP and libertarian voters are) there is an attempt to use eminent domain for a pipeline project to Massachusetts. And NH's own Souter was a vote for Kelo and the Kelo decision itself was about a case of waterfront developers using ED to seize a property (the house was eventually moved to another part of town but the project then fell apart and the now-vacant lot gets used as an illegal dump, mostly to hold leaves from other people's properties in the area).

They should all have been taking a chunk out of Trump's hide on Kelo and the use of eminent domain to enrich private developers like Trump himself and how corrupt the entire process is.

These were the top two chances for the rest of the field last night. They failed to press the case against Trump.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-07   7:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#7)

"Should we rip out their fingernails?" "Should we skin them alive to get information? "Should we amputate their fingers, toes, carve up their genitals?" "If they are hardened against torture, should we torture or kill their family members to make them talk?" "Should we torture them if we just have some rumors of an attack or do we have to have solid evidence that an attack is imminent?"

I would pay to see any and all of that done to any democrat politician.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-07   8:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#7)

So, no, you will not stop Trump, now or later, by refusing to take him on. And the GOP donors are foolish to give any money to candidates who keep letting Trump skate by so easily.

You were talking like Trump was finished the other day.

Now you got your panties in a wad.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-07   8:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#6)

IF I were advising a candidate,I'd be telling him to do his best to ignore Trump. Make him seem irrelevant,and don't give him a chance to gain the spotlight.

I don't think anyone would be soliciting the advice of Oscar the grouch. I mean you live in a trash can.

The rantings of a dying breed of Sanders hell burners.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-07   8:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#6)

IF I were advising a candidate,I'd be telling him to do his best to ignore Trump. Make him seem irrelevant,and don't give him a chance to gain the spotlight.

That Pete, is exactly what the moderators did.

I don't think it worked.

But, Tuesday will tell.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-02-07   8:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#7)

My friend, You need to go sit in a VA hospital for a week or two. Find away to get up into the mental ward, ask why those girls are wearing helmets.

Do not under any circumstances ask any of the kids with missing body parts what they lost those parts for.

I think you will rapidly come to the conclusion that only what Donald says makes sense.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2016-02-07   8:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: BobCeleste (#12)

Your right Bob !

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

Stoner  posted on  2016-02-07   9:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#7)

Should we rip out their fingernails?

Of course not. We should give them bacha bazi boys, soccer fields, volleyball courts, marinated chicken with orange sauce, and rice pilaf.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-07   9:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#7)

Excellent points.

Especially the second one,which I had completely overlooked and ignored. I would only add "TAKE their oil"? Are we armed robbers,or a nation that believes in the rule of law and thinks might makes right,and we can just steal their property? Are you talking about international eminent domain,now?"

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-07   9:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#10)

I don't think anyone would be soliciting the advice of Oscar the grouch. I mean you live in a trash can.

The rantings of a dying breed of Sanders hell burners.

Off your meds again?

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-07   10:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: BobCeleste, TooConservative (#12) (Edited)

Bob,he is spot on. We don't need their damn oil,and those boys in the VA hospitals lost their limbs to protect the Saud family,who are the very people financing the terrorists in the west.

We don't need to steal their oil from them,but what we need to do is quit buying it so they have to start spending their money on their own people to keep them from revolting instead of spending it to keep terrorists setting off bombs in the west.

I think you will rapidly come to the conclusion that only what Donald says makes sense.

Not one chance in hell of Trump actually believing most of the stuff he is saying unless he is talking about taxes or eminent domain.

He's a carnie,telling the rubes whatever they need to hear for him to make the sale.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-07   10:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone, Roscoe, BobCeleste, redleghunter, Pericles (#15)

Especially the second one,which I had completely overlooked and ignored. I would only add "TAKE their oil"?

He's mentioned it before in at least one other debate. He's said it in interviews, he's said it to rallies.

He said it several times, just in last night's debate.

If we are going to become the Viking States of America and pirate the world's oil with our military under the Trump Doctrine (and we'll torture anyone we need to in order to get that oil), then it seems to me it is perfectly legit to ask The Amazing Donaldo for the details of exactly how he intends to do these things.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-07   10:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#18)

Especially the second one,which I had completely overlooked and ignored. I would only add "TAKE their oil"?

He's mentioned it before in at least one other debate. He's said it in interviews, he's said it to rallies.

He said it several times, just in last night's debate.

I don't doubt it. I just don't go out of my way to pay any attention to anything he is saying because I know he is almost always either lying,nor not really serious.

If we are going to become the Viking States of America and pirate the world's oil with our military under the Trump Doctrine (and we'll torture anyone we need to in order to get that oil), then it seems to me it is perfectly legit to ask The Amazing Donaldo for the details of exactly how he intends to do these things.

Absolutely.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-07   10:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TooConservative (#18)

world's oil

How globalist of ya.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-07   10:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

Just finished listening to the debate . Rubio looked foolish when he used a prepared answer ;Christie challenged him for using the canned answer ,and Rubio repeated his response almost verbatim in his rebuttal .

Trump tried to finesse the answer on eminent domain . I guess he equates building the keystone pipeline with building parking garages for casinos. The rest of the candidates missed an opportunity on hitting Trump harder on a number of the things he said.

If I was to give scores to the debate I would say that the governors all had their A game going . Rubio looked the worse of the rest and Cruz the best of the rest . His emotional response to the drug issues was well done ,tying it to federalism and the border issue. Ben Carson was his usual invisible self .

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-07   11:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#19)

I don't doubt it. I just don't go out of my way to pay any attention to anything he is saying because I know he is almost always either lying,nor not really serious.

The Germans didn't think Hitler was serious either.

Trump has spoken about this for years. It's way beyond some lone mention in a speech. He's written about it, spoken about it at least a dozen times, probably more. It's striking in that, unlike immigration (deport but then let 90% back in) or Cruz's eligibility (a Canucki anchor baby but Trump might pick him for VP anyway), Trump has been very consistent about saying we need to take the oil from these countries, Iraq in particlar but also Libya and Syria. And Trump doesn't limit his scope of action to just those countries. He's wide open on taking other countries' oil as well.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-07   11:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Roscoe, sneakypete, tomder55 (#20)

How globalist of ya.

As Seinfeld once said:

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-07   11:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TooConservative (#18)

"then it seems to me it is perfectly legit to ask The Amazing Donaldo for the details of exactly how he intends to do these things."

We'll sit down with the conquered leaders and negotiate a deal behind closed doors. When the deal is done, it turns out that they wholeheartedly agreed to give us all their oil as compensation.

That's how.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-07   11:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tomder55 (#21)

Trump tried to finesse the answer on eminent domain . I guess he equates building the keystone pipeline with building parking garages for casinos.

Of course he does. In HIS mind,EVERYTHING is about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!"

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-07   11:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite (#24)

We'll sit down with the conquered leaders

Leftists and cuckservatives would shower our enemies with billions of American tax dollars.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-07   12:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: misterwhite (#24)

We'll sit down with the conquered leaders and negotiate a deal behind closed doors. When the deal is done, it turns out that they wholeheartedly agreed to give us all their oil as compensation.

That's how.

The sad thing is that you probably actually believe this.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-07   12:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: hondo68 (#0)

Watched Everest instead.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-07   12:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: TooConservative (#27)

"The sad thing is that you probably actually believe this."

You asked for details on how Trump will do this. This is how it will be done.

We don't have to believe this is what happened behind closed doors. The end result, however, is we get the oil.

After that, maybe those mideast countries will think twice about getting us involved.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-07   14:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite (#29)

After that, maybe those mideast countries will think twice about getting us involved.

I guess the entrapment that Israel imposes upon the USA doesn't count, 'eh?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-07   14:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: hondo68 (#4)

" Cris Christie told a moving story of ordering pizza and drinking beer. "

Yeah. I immediately phoned in an order, and picked up a 12 pack at the same time. LOL

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

Stoner  posted on  2016-02-07   16:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tomder55 (#21)

" Ben Carson was his usual invisible self "

He was there ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

Stoner  posted on  2016-02-07   16:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TooConservative (#18)

Viking States of America and pirate the world's oil with our military under the Trump Doctrine

The internet is amazing.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-07   17:19:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TooConservative, sneakypete, A K A Stone, Roscoe, BobCeleste, redleghunter (#18)

f we are going to become the Viking States of America and pirate the world's oil with our military under the Trump Doctrine (and we'll torture anyone we need to in order to get that oil), then it seems to me it is perfectly legit to ask The Amazing Donaldo for the details of exactly how he intends to do these things.

Trump is just talking in the way the rubes can understand. Also, Kasich said he wanted to punch Putin in the nose and Christie said he wanted to shoot down Russian jets in Syria. But let's go after Trump who said he does not have an itchy trigger finger for starting wars in the middle east like the neocons and urges for cooperation with a nuclear power rather than confrontation. Trump's answer about using China to pressure North Korea was spot on.

Pericles  posted on  2016-02-07   17:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Pericles (#34)

Do you really think China has much say about what happens in NK ? Whatever influence they have left with the un-Kim is diminishing and most likely already applied .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/a-snub-for-china-north-koreas-reported- nuclear-test-shows-beijings-waning-influence/2016/01/06/b0d309e9-a5a4-4cd4-b12a- ab352a53c0cc_story.html Development of its nuclear program has given the NORKS a measure of strategic independence from China. China has to be very careful here . They have some economic influence on the NORKS . But if they push that too far and cause a regime collapse ,they will have a failed state on their border with the probable refugee disaster that Europe is experiencing . .

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-07   17:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Pericles (#34)

Whatever flaws and shortcomings he might have, he scares the cuckservatives spitless.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-07   19:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: redleghunter (#33)

The internet is amazing.

That or the world is full of useless eaters.

I like Viking Donald #4. Seems to capture him well, so stylish that Bernie Sanders will start pining for Denmark. Bernie has fond memories of the Viking era.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-07   20:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: tomder55, Pericles (#35)

But if they push that too far and cause a regime collapse ,they will have a failed state on their border with the probable refugee disaster that Europe is experiencing . .

I'm fed up with hearing this particular line.

China already has a "failed state" on their border. It's been there for decades. Surely they have noticed by now.

I think China would find a way to muzzle their dog if we informed them that, barring immediate action on their part, we would be forced to help our allies in Japan and South Korea (and Taiwan) to implement their own nuclear weapons programs to defend themselves against the Norks.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-07   20:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Pericles (#34)

Trump is just talking in the way the rubes can understand.

It's way more than that. Trump has said it for at least a decade on a steady basis, emphasized this point over anything else he says about the Mideast.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-07   20:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#30)

"I guess the entrapment that Israel imposes upon the USA doesn't count, 'eh?"

They're the first one we sever all ties with.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-07   20:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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