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Title: People Have A 'Fundamental Right' To Own Assault Weapons, Court Rules
Source: The Bay Net
URL Source: http://www.thebaynet.com/news/peopl ... sault-weapons-court-rules.html
Published: Feb 5, 2016
Author: Cristian Farias
Post Date: 2016-02-05 10:00:07 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 7562
Comments: 46

In a major victory for gun rights advocates, a federal appeals court on Thursday sided with a broad coalition of gun owners, businesses and organizations that challenged the constitutionality of a Maryland ban on assault weapons and other laws aimed at curbing gun violence.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit said the state's prohibition on what the court called "the vast majority of semi-automatic rifles commonly kept by several million American citizens" amounted to a violation of their rights under the Constitution.

"In our view, Maryland law implicates the core protection of the Second Amendment -- the right of law-abiding responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home," Chief Judge William Traxler wrote in the divided ruling.

Provisions that outlaw these firearms, Traxler wrote, "substantially burden this fundamental right."

Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, who recently suspended his Democratic presidential campaign, signed Maryland's Firearm Safety Act of 2013 in the wake of the school massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, which spurred similar initiatives in other Democratic-leaning states.

The legislation mostly targets specific kinds of semi-automatic firearms -- such as AR-15s and AK-47s -- and large-capacity magazines, and adds certain registration and licensing requirements.

But gun rights advocates, including the National Rifle Association, quickly moved to challenge these laws in the courts, claiming that the restrictions they imposed on lawful gun ownership were overly broad and weren't proven to save lives.

“"This case was a major victory for the NRA and gun rights advocates."
—Adam Winkler, UCLA law professor

The legal attacks have largely failed. Last October, a federal appeals court in Manhattan upheld the most iconic of these laws -- those passed in New York and Connecticut in direct response to the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. And in December, the Supreme Court declined to review a ruling out of Illinois that upheld a similar ban on assault weapons.

The high court's reluctance to intervene in these disputes has left the Second Amendment in a bit of a state of flux. Since the Supreme Court established in 2008 and 2010 that the amendment protects a personal right to keep and bear arms for self-defense within the home, judges have struggled to apply those decisions to the newer spate of gun legislation. And inconsistent rulings and standards across the country have left the scope of the law unclear.

When the Supreme Court refused to take up the Illinois case, Justice Clarence Thomas complained that the Second Amendment was being relegated to "a second-class right."

"If a broad ban on firearms can be upheld based on conjecture that the public might feel safer (while being no safer at all), then the Second Amendment guarantees nothing," he wrote, and added that those earlier decisions enshrining the right to gun ownership shouldn't be expected to "clarify the entire field."

The lack of clarity since then underscores why Thursday's decision may be a boon to those who want to see a broader interpretation of the Second Amendment, setting the stage for the next Supreme Court confrontation.

"This case was a major victory for the NRA and gun rights advocates," said Adam Winkler, a law professor at UCLA who specializes in Second Amendment law. "This opinion is an important one because it subjects important gun control laws to the most strict form of judicial scrutiny."

Indeed, the biggest surprise in Chief Judge Traxler's 66-page opinion is the words "strict scrutiny," a stringent constitutional test that most government laws and regulations fail. Other courts have applied more forgiving standards to similar gun legislation and upheld it.

The 4th Circuit's decision didn't outright strike down the Maryland legislation. Instead, it instructed a lower court to subject the provision to the higher legal standard, meaning more litigation and the possibility of a future showdown at the Supreme Court -- though maybe not yet, according to Winkler.

As if to illustrate the volatile politics and legalities of gun control, dissenting Circuit Judge Robert King all but declared that the court's ruling would lead to the next mass shooting.

"Let's be real," King wrote. "The assault weapons banned by Maryland's [law] are exceptionally lethal weapons of war."

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#5. To: All (#0) (Edited)

"The lack of clarity since then underscores why Thursday's dec decision may be a boon to those who want to see a broader interpretation of the Second Amendment, setting the stage for the next Supreme Court confrontation."

Why do people think the Supreme Court will agree with a broader interpretation?

Heller was a very narrow decision, protecting an individual right to keep and bear arms a) in common use b) for self-defense c) within the home. An AR-15 or an AK-47 is not your ideal weapon for self- defense in the home.

If this does go to the Supreme Court, it's possible that 5 liberal justices could rule otherwise. Then we are truly f**ked.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-05   11:04:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: misterwhite (#5)

If this does go to the Supreme Court, it's possible that 5 liberal justices could rule otherwise. Then we are truly f**ked.

white .... as always, you are an absolute idiot.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-05   22:27:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#22)

"white .... as always, you are an absolute idiot."

In Heller, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the second amendment protected an individual right to keep and bear arms a) in common use b) for self-defense c) within the home.

Only an idiot would think that ruling would prevent 5 liberal justices from concluding second amendment protection does not include an AR-15 or an AK-47. They can very easily say that those weapons are not that common, that they are variants of military weapons, and they are dangerous as home self-defense weapons due to the penetrating power of the bullet.

You think they wouldn't? I give you their idiotic decisions of Roe v Wade, Kelo, and Obamacare. Their many decisions using the Commerce Clause as justification. And using the 14th amendment to apply their decisions to the states.

Yet you persist in thinking that any future court decision will be favorable to your viewpoint. Who's the idiot, idiot?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-06   9:51:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: misterwhite, uses silly 'penetrating' logic (#25)

Heller was a very narrow decision, protecting an individual right to keep and bear arms a) in common use b) for self-defense c) within the home. An AR-15 or an AK-47 is not your ideal weapon for self- defense in the home. --- If this does go to the Supreme Court, it's possible that 5 liberal justices could rule otherwise. Then we are truly f**ked. ---- misterwhite

The 2nd is not about whether an AR-15 or an AK-47 is not your ideal weapon for self- defense in the home. --- SCOTUS 'opinions', -- just like misterwhite's opinions, -- simply don't make a damn bit of difference in our inalienable basic rights.. -- SCOTUS can 'rule' against them, but we can never lose them..

And only an idiot like white thinks SCOTUS decisions can fuck them away.

"Only an idiot would think that ruling would prevent 5 liberal justices from concluding second amendment protection does not include an AR-15 or an AK-47. They can very easily say that those weapons are not that common, that they are variants of military weapons, and they are dangerous as home self-defense weapons due to the penetrating power of the bullet."

The 'penetrating power of the bullet', -- In ALL weapons, - depends upon cartridge loaded and used. -- 'Home defense loads' can be purchased by the misterwhite/SarahBrady crowd if needed.

And if '5 liberal justices' conclude that second amendment protection does not include an AR-15 or an AK-47, - - State legislatures can specify that such arms are legal, --effectively ignoring and nullifying the SCOTUS opinion in that specific State..

tpaine  posted on  2016-02-06   13:57:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: tpaine (#41)

And if '5 liberal justices' conclude that second amendment protection does not include an AR-15 or an AK-47, - - State legislatures can specify that such arms are legal, --effectively ignoring and nullifying the SCOTUS opinion in that specific State..

Indeed they can. Just like states are doing with the federal prohibition on pot.

If looked at long enough, whiteys pattern emerges, Feds override state overreach, he freaks out. When states try to go rogue against the federal government, as in WA and CO legalizing pot, he freaks out.

Whenever control is constricted or freedoms are expanded, whitey is there screaming his tiny little head off.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2016-02-07   0:43:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: Dead Culture Watch, (#42)

If looked at long enough, whiteys pattern emerges, Feds override state overreach, he freaks out. When states try to go rogue against the federal government, as in WA and CO legalizing pot, he freaks out.

Whenever control is constricted or freedoms are expanded, whitey is there screaming his tiny little head off.

Misterwhite/robertpaulsen is above all, -- an authoritarian, melded with fascistic/communitarian tendencies. -- He pretends to be a conservative, - and only a mental heath professional could tell you why..

Altogether, we can agree, -- he's a nasty bit of work.

tpaine  posted on  2016-02-07 17:53:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Dead Culture Watch (#42)

"Indeed they can. Just like states are doing with the federal prohibition on pot."

When we get a justice department which respects and enforces the laws written by the people, we'll see.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-08 09:29:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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