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Title: Cruz’s ‘consistent conservatism’ is contagious with his supporters
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/02/ ... ontagious-with-his-supporters/
Published: Feb 4, 2016
Author: Matt Vespa
Post Date: 2016-02-04 20:02:53 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 461
Comments: 18

DES MOINES, Iowa– After Cruz clinched victory in Iowa, he reminded the establishment and the media that they aren’t going to decide this election in his victory speech Monday night. He also prided himself on his record as a “consistent conservative,” and how this will be key to winning in November; he believes the Reagan Coalition is coming back. And this consistent conservatism was infectious with his supporters at his victory party Monday night. Additionally, while Iowa caucus-goers were present, there were supporters from out-of-state who arrived at the watch party to show their support.

In some people, it takes the form of extreme excitement. One woman behind me in the packed Ellwell Center on the State Fairgrounds had the energy exuded after drinking at least nine Red Bulls; another Cruz supporter next to her actually told her to calm down, though he commended her enthusiasm. But for most, it was exhibited in the form on indefatigable support for Cruz, his beliefs, and his agenda for the country should he win the Republican nomination and the subsequent general election.

Suzette Henriksen of Pleasant Hill #3 was pleased that her caucus meeting broke for Cruz. She showed me on her phone the results etched on a blackboard showing Cruz winning with 72 votes, followed by Trump (48), Rubio (34), and Carson (11).

“He’s conservative,” she said. “He’s not afraid to stand up to the establishment.” And his beliefs aligned with hers on a whole host of issues.

Jeff Ropp, another Cruz supporter, noted “when you hear him talk and his voting record; I like what I see.” Deb Harris, who was sitting next to Ropp agreed.

“I see someone even-keeled, who can get stuff done,” she said.

Hailing from Illinois, Dave Shragal and Cathy Ross had a business meeting in Des Moines during caucus day and being in the Cruz camp, decided to show up and watch the results. Moreover, they never experienced a caucus before and decided to stick around and see it in action.

“He’s [Cruz] independent. He’s independent of his own party. He’s his own man–and I think he’s willing to do right for the American people rather than what’s not necessarily what’s right for the political class,” he said. “People are kind of fed up with both parties, looking out for their own best interests and not the American people’s,” he added.

Ross said, “It was long overdue for a change.”

Shragal liked the fact that Cruz is trying to rein in government, and apply fiscal standards that most Americans have had to establish since the Obama presidency.

“I like the fact that he looks at downsizing government, or right-sizing it you might say. The same way every household has to manage within their budget; he wants to hold the government up to the same kind of standards,” he said. “I think that people can differ with him…he’s morally a good guy and wants to try and do the right thing.”

Rich and Sandy Selden said their caucus in Ankeny 7 went for Rubio, with 43 votes, while Trump and Cruz tied at 37. Yet, Sandy did not hold back on her feelings about the Donald.

“I hate Trump,” she said. When speaking of the 2016 GOP field, she said, “I would have liked anyone but Trump,” but she went with Cruz since he’s the candidate she likes the most; she’s supported him since April. She also appreciated that he’s a “staunch constitutionalist,” who doesn’t “cave to the pressures of Washington.” Also, his pro-life credentials are something she highly respects in Cruz. In short, the Texas senator embodies all the values she holds dear.

While she didn’t say that she’s against gay marriage per se, she was explicitly against how it’s been implemented in this country via the courts. It should be left to the states, and most importantly, the legislatures, which is how our Constitution was set up for our nation to move forward democratically.

Rich noted that “integrity matters,” and “saying what you mean and doing what you say” is key to winning over his support. He also noted that Trump’s special event on the night of the Fox News debate at Drake was “a Celebrity Apprentice event.” Both of them also noted that they didn’t see much of a ground game from the Trump campaign, but did mention that their meeting was over capacity, highlighting the record turnout this year.

Rebel Snodgrass agreed with the Sandy Selden’s constitutionalist stances saying of Cruz, that his votes align 88 percent of the time with how the Constitution is suppose to be interpreted. He caucused for Cruz at his precinct–Lincoln 2–in Indiaola, about 12 miles south of Des Moines, but added that he didn’t know who won since he and his wife, Julie, left the meeting in order to be able to make it to the party.

Julie said it was either Cruz or Rand Paul for her choices.

Catherine Frazier, Cruz’s national press secretary, noted the momentum Cruz has gained in the Hawkeye State, noting that they were trialing the Donald in the polls a couple of weeks ago and to be running neck-and-neck with him by caucus day was in itself an achievement. She added that the campaign has an incredible organization, which evidently paid off dividends with their win.

“Tonight shows that conservatives are coalescing around Cruz,” she said. Voters are “fed up with Washington,” and want someone who will stand up and not cuddle up to the establishment.”


Poster Comment:

Just some stray comments on Cruz and his cadre of conservative supporters. He has quite a road show with his Camp Cruz with hundreds of imported activists (Iowa anchor babies?) in that apartment building near the Des Moines airport and he immediately set up a new Camp Cruz in New Hampshire. He has plenty of volunteers, in-state and out-of-state.

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

Like when he claims he wants to stop the cross border flow while simultaneously seeking to quintuple the number of H-1B visas in the program and saying “we should improve and streamline legal immigration."

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-04   20:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Roscoe (#1)

I think this groundswell is in part a result of Mark Levin constantly shilling for Cruz. Also, Laura Ingraham.

Cruz does have his allies. It's worth knowing something about them.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-04   20:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

Cruz and Levin both claim to be supporters of the Constitution while simultaneously calling for it to be rewritten. Levin even has an entire book full of half-witted amendments.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-04   21:07:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Roscoe (#3)

Levin admires Cruz. Levin was a similar legal eagle type, not as high-flying as Cruz though; Levin clerked and then was part of the the Meese JD under Reagan and wrote a book influential with constitutional conservatives about the Court clear back in the Eighties. I even read it. Interesting read but now outdated. Cruz really is a brainy type, more so than Levin or Ingraham. Levin does propose a constitutional convention to clean up the abuses of the Constitution by the Court, the presidents and the Congress encroaching upon it.

Anyway, I was mostly interested in the character sketches of the typical Cruz activist types, their main media hangouts, etc.

In short, many of these are NR and Federalist Society types. The same people who ousted Harriet Meiers and got Alito put on the Court, to name one example of their influence.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-04   21:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#4)

Levin does propose a constitutional convention to clean up the abuses of the Constitution by the Court, the presidents and the Congress encroaching upon it.

The son of Levin's fiance is on the Cruz payroll.

None of the idiotic proposals that Levin put in his book would end any "abuses." You'll note that I said "put." They were lifted from other sources, none of them credited. Looked like blatant plagiarism to me.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-04   21:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Roscoe (#5) (Edited)

The son of Levin's fiance is on the Cruz payroll.

Are you seriously suggesting that that is enough for Levin to support Cruz? You've got to be kidding. Levin can't be bought that cheap. And Cruz really is Levin's kind of guy, a dream candidate for him.

None of the idiotic proposals that Levin put in his book would end any "abuses." You'll note that I said "put." They were lifted from other sources, none of them credited. Looked like blatant plagiarism to me.

It was a fairly standard laundry list for Federalist Society types. They've batted these ideas around for a long time. You could call them the Scalia wing of the legal system.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-04   22:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#0) (Edited)

Cruz’s ‘consistent conservatism’ is contagious with his supporters

Like when he claims he wants to stop the cross border flow while simultaneously seeking to quintuple the number of H-1B visas in the program and saying “we should improve and streamline legal immigration."

What this proves is that if you repeat a lie or self-contradiction often enough, people will believe it. He's good at it and totally without conscience, fear, or timidity. It works for him in converting blockheads. That's called contagious consistent conservatism.

rlk  posted on  2016-02-05   3:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#6)

Are you seriously suggesting that that is enough for Levin to support Cruz?

You mean like Goldline and Lifelock? Levin hid the Cruz money from his listeners for months while he pumped the Cruz candidacy, and then angrily screeched impotent threats when he was exposed. Are you seriously suggesting that Levin's nondisclosure was ethical?

It was a fairly standard laundry list for Federalist Society types.

Sez who? No, it was a fairly random hodgepodge of proposals ripped off from multiple sources across decades, presented without attribution.

The "brainy" Cruz couldn't see that? He praised the work, and Levin praised Cruz in return.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-05   3:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: rlk (#7)

What this proves is that if you repeat a lie or self-contradiction often enough, people will believe it.

Yep. That's the driving force of Cruz and the "second oldest profession."

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-05   3:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Roscoe (#8)

Your dislike of Cruz is a little strange.

He is a conservative. A good one. He would make a good President. Trump is my choice but I also like Cruz.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-05   8:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Roscoe (#1)

"Like when he claims he wants to stop the cross border flow while simultaneously seeking to quintuple the number of H-1B visas in the program and saying “we should improve and streamline legal immigration."

But he's consistent when he says it.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-05   9:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Trump is a guy who says, "This, this and this needs to be fixed and I'm going to fix them."

Cruz is a guy who says, "Tell me what you want fixed and I'll fix them."

Just because it looks like the end result will be the same doesn't make the two candidates equal.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-05   9:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#10)

A person who want to get rid of our Constitution and replace it with a rewrite is not remotely conservative.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-05   9:58:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Roscoe (#13)

A person who want to get rid of our Constitution and replace it with a rewrite is not remotely conservative.

First the constitution isn't perfect. It isn't from God. It could be improved. I don't trust most of the people today to do a good job. They would probably ruin it.

But the constitution is designed to be changed. So that is part of the process.

The amendment process or by calling a convention of the states. I think the latter is risky. But just because someone favors it doesn't necessarily mean they aren't conservative.

I don't favor a convention of the states. Today's people are too divided and too many evil people have power.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-05   18:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: misterwhite (#12)

Cruz is a guy who says, "Tell me what you want fixed and I'll fix them."

Just because it looks like the end result will be the same doesn't make the two candidates equal.

They aren't equal. No two people ever will be.

Cruz doesn't just ask questions he proposes things also.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-05   18:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)

It could be improved.

It could be destroyed. Cruz isn't fit to kiss James Madison's butt.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-05   18:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Roscoe (#16)

It could be improved. It could be destroyed. Cruz isn't fit to kiss James Madison's butt.

Yes it could be destroyed. Heck it already is isn't it. But I don't support that route. To risky. But still everyone who supports that isn't evil, or bad. In fact many of them have good motivation for wanting a convention. Again I don't favor that.

Are you fit to kiss James Madisons butt?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-05   18:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Are you fit to kiss James Madisons butt?

Calm down, get control of those emotions. Cruz is the one who wants to rewrite Madison's work, not me.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-05   19:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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