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Title: ObamaCareÂ’s imploding even without repeal
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URL Source: http://nypost.com/2015/11/22/obamac ... imploding-even-without-repeal/
Published: Nov 23, 2015
Author: By Post Editorial Board
Post Date: 2015-11-23 09:37:47 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 4158
Comments: 61

It’s looking like ObamaCare won’t survive even if Congress can’t manage to repeal it.

The nation’s largest health insurer, UnitedHealth Group, said last week that it’s losing too much — $425 million — from policies sold on the health exchanges, and may have to pull out by 2017.

The company admits it’s “a potentially huge blow” to the new system: “If a major publicly traded insurer bows out, others may follow and destabilize the entire individual market.”

Game over for ObamaCare?

UnitedHealth CEO Stephen Hemsley seems to imply just that: “We can’t really subsidize a marketplace that doesn’t appear at the moment to be sustaining itself.”

Mind you, UnitedHealth was a huge backer of the 2009 law. One of its top execs, Andrew Slavitt, then joined the administration to run the health exchanges.

What’s going on here? Basically, the long-feared “death spiral”: Not enough young, healthy folks are signing up for these plans, so insurers are losing money despite the hefty federal subsidies for the coverage. They’re raising premiums to even things out — but that drives even more folks away, so that only older, less-healthy customers remain, driving new losses . . .

Looking at the collapse of the ObamaCare “cooperatives” a few weeks back, Betsy McCaughey warned in these pages that the death spiral was under way.

Now here’s America’s biggest insurance provider saying pretty much the same thing. Hemsley cited weak enrollment and high medical costs for those who did sign up.

And the Obama administration itself last month predicted 2016 enrollment would be less than half of what the Congressional Budget Office predicted in March.

Republicans have been tossing around plans to replace ObamaCare from the start. Now it’s time for Democrats to join in — unless they want to get caught looking when the whole thing goes belly-up.

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#29. To: no gnu taxes, tomder55, CZ82 (#0)

What’s going on here? Basically, the long-feared “death spiral”: Not enough young, healthy folks are signing up for these plans, so insurers are losing money despite the hefty federal subsidies for the coverage. They’re raising premiums to even things out — but that drives even more folks away, so that only older, less-healthy customers remain, driving new losses . . .

A poster at another site told me if you are young and healthy with kids you pay through the nose.

His brother (family of 5) apparently has a policy (did not say exchange or corporate)which requires a $5,000.00 a year deductible in addition to premiums. For a young healthy family of 5 why bother? They will no doubt spend less than a grand a year for check ups and kids sick out of school.

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#37. To: redleghunter (#29)

$5,000.00 a year deductible in addition to premiums

I've heard of up to $12,000 deductibles...

No reason whatsoever to get insurance with that kind of stipulation...

CZ82  posted on  2015-11-23   18:15:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: CZ82 (#37)

I've heard of up to $12,000 deductibles...

No reason whatsoever to get insurance with that kind of stipulation...

It's a roll of the dice. If a young family has a kid develop cancer at about the age my son did and no insurance, they will be in debt in the high hundreds of thousands.

It's a gamble. My son was the healthiest kid in school ate a lot of fish, good foods, but alas somewhere in his DNA lurked the gene.

Such healthy families should have a catastrophic policy. Works almost like life insurance. You would get a lot nipping at that. Pay your own well visits, immunizations, sick call etc. But if a life changing event happens you pay x amount and the insurance kicks in.

Or they can do what we did and serve. Our healthcare is looking better each day:)

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