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Title: Cowardly Cop Knocks On Innocent Family's Door, Kills Their Dog and Then Walks Off
Source: Information Liberation
URL Source: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=52711
Published: Oct 22, 2015
Author: Justin Gardner
Post Date: 2015-10-22 20:55:20 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 17516
Comments: 121

A cowardly cop put another family pet to death on October 20, leaving a mother and her children grief-stricken.

As surveillance video shows, a Florida City police officer knocks on the front door of the unfortunate family. He was going to inform them that they left a car door open.

The daughter opens the door slightly and their dog, named Duchess, was able to get out first. The cop reaches for his gun as the 40-pound dog emerges and fires three rounds into its head without hesitation.

"She was curious. She wasn't barking (and) she wasn't growling. There was no reason for him to think she was aggressive in any way," said the mother, Gillian Palacios.

The daughter comes out immediately after, and could only stand paralyzed in horror at the scene of murder. Duchess is lying on the sidewalk, still alive but fatally wounded, and the repugnant cop is out of the camera's view.

Palacios is yelling at the cop while her daughter cradles the dying dog in her hands. Duchess can be seen wagging her tail, perhaps finding some comfort in her owner's embrace.

The cop said "your dog charged me" and promptly left the scene, telling them Animal Services would pick up the dog later.

In his report, the cop will surely say that he "feared for his life" from the 40-pound animal. One wonders if he felt any remorse at all for his brutal actions. Instead of hesitating a bit and realizing the dog meant no harm, he put a family in shock and grief.

The department has put their officer on paid administrative leave while they investigate that matter, "gathering all the facts at the time."

The Palacios family rescues dogs and finds homes for them, but decided to keep Duchess. A friend of the family said she was one of the sweetest dogs she has ever met.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Black folks are afraid of dogs.

I'd have shot the black guy if he did that to my dog.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-22   21:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

Police such as this should be given a death sentence in court.

rlk  posted on  2015-10-22   22:00:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#0)

Did I miss something?

Looks as if he knocks on the door. The door opens and dog attacks the guy?

I would have killed the dog too.

There is no dog worth one drop of innocent blood.

You want to blame someone blame the idiot owner!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-22   22:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Justified (#3) (Edited)

I would have killed the dog too.

You don't mean that, do you?

I'd shoot you in the forehead.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-22   22:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

So you think it's ok to have your dog attack people?

Justified  posted on  2015-10-22   22:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Justified (#5)

Dogs are protective. They bark, they don't normally bite.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-22   23:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#5)

Are watching the same video?

Justified  posted on  2015-10-22   23:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#6)

Bull shit! They bite! I know for fact they bite and will not stop until the object they attack stops moving or they are dead.

This is clearly the owners fault, period.

What if that had been some child knocking on the door?

Justified  posted on  2015-10-22   23:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Justified (#8)

You and .22 rifle should get together, what with his hatred of cats and your hated of dogs.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-10-23   0:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Justified (#8)

What if that had been some child knocking on the door?

Kid would probably have been licked to death.

You are one strange person.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-10-23   0:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Dead Culture Watch (#10)

Your a moron!

Did you even watch the video? Apparently not!

Guy walked up to the door. Knocked. You can tell by his reaction before the door was even opened that he heard the dog. The door opens and the dog attacks him while he back pedels. He kills the dog in pure defense of his body.

Maybe you guys should actual watch the video before downing Deckard propaganda!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   0:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Justified (#11)

The door opens and the dog attacks him while he back pedels.

What did the dog do that constitues an attack? What were the position of its ears and tail?

rlk  posted on  2015-10-23   2:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Justified (#11)

Maybe you guys should actual watch the video before downing Deckard propaganda!

They don't need to read it. They already know it's yella before they post the propaganda. It's not posted to educate... it's posted to make you hate cops.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-23   3:35:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GrandIsland (#13)

They don't need to read it. They already know it's yella before they post the propaganda.

The dog ran out of the house.

The dog was NOT in attack mode.

The diaper wetting cop will claim he "feared for his life".

It's amazing - postal carriers, deliverymen and workers in other professions do not kill dogs.

Why is it that police officers, who we are told are "the bravest of the brave" cannot even look at a dog without shooting it?

It's not posted to educate...

Of course it is posted to educate - the lesson here is that cops are mindless zombie drones who "fear for their lives" whenever they get out of their squad car.

it's posted to make you hate cops.

After seeing the same scenario played out over and over and over again, you might want to ask yourself why people hate cops like this one.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-23   7:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Justified (#8)

I know for fact they bite and will not stop until the object they attack stops moving or they are dead.

ALL dogs do that?

Could you cite a source for your absurd assumption?

Your fear of dogs makes you a prime candidate to become a police officer.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-23   7:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Justified (#11)

Attacks?

Wow......you have a very strange way with words.

How many bites did the brave Knight Sir Robin receive?

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-10-23   7:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: rlk (#12)

Can't tell since dog has his face nearly stuck in the guys crotch while he running backwards! How he never got bite is a miracle.

If you could watch the video you would see this is the owners fault. If it had been a child we would be talking about a mauling instead or a dead kid.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   10:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Justified (#17)

If it had been a child we would be talking about a mauling instead or a dead kid.

So - not only do you advocate cops shooting playful dogs, you also belieive that the cop would have been right to shoot a child running out the door too?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-23   10:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dead Culture Watch (#16)

Called iPad.

I hope to god none. It's not up to him to get bit first before using deadly force but up to the owner to secure the dog at all times.

This is clearly the owners fault for not securing the dog, period!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   10:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deckard (#18)

Are you drunk? I did not say or imply such a stupid thing!

If you can not read you need to learn before blogging.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   10:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Justified (#20)

I did not say or imply such a stupid thing!

Never can tell with you cop worshipers.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-23   10:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Justified (#20)

That's Deckards shtick. He takes what you say and bends it further into the unreasonable.... to discredit you.

He's yella. Like his articles.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-23   10:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland (#22)

Like I said, it's difficult to tell sometimes with you and your cop-worshiping ilk.

After all - you cheer when the cops gun down an autistic kid, a grandpa in a wheel chair, a kid holding a Wii remote or a mentally retarded kid.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-23   10:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: GrandIsland (#22)

He's yella.

I'm not wetting my pants with fear from a harmless dog like the cop in this article did.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-23   10:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Deckard (#21)

You're such a turd. I don't treat cops any different than anyone else. I remove the person from the situation and place myself in and see what I would do.

If anyone here has a major issue about cops its you. You hate all cops good or bad. The word cop sends you into frenzy of hate.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   10:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Justified (#25) (Edited)

I remove the person from the situation and place myself in and see what I would do.

I carry a box of dog biscuits in the trunk or my car. I've been licked but not bitten by a variety of dogs.

p.s. Thanks for reminding me to get a new box of biscuits as my supply is low right now.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-23   10:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Justified (#25) (Edited)

You hate all cops good or bad.

I've posted numerous stories about good cops here.

Cop Shows the Immense Power of Treating People with Respect — Officers Please Take Note

Instead of Shooting a Dog that Just Bit Him, This Cop Soothed It and Set the Bar for Cops Nationwide

Instead of Gunning Him Down this Hero Peace Officer Saves Suicidal, Knife Wielding Man’s Life

Cops Threatened by Suicidal Man with Gun, Became Heroes for Using Compassion, Not Aggression

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-23   10:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

I carry a box of dog biscuits in the trunk or my car. I've been licked but not bitten by a variety of dogs.

Gee whiz - you'd think that cops would have learned that little trick.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-23   11:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

I carry a box of dog biscuits in the trunk or my car.

Fat lot of good it would have done for you when that dog comes charging through the door. Its not like you are going to out run them. You can't reason with a dog. You either fight it or kill it. If you want to get all chewed up thats your problem but im not going to give it a chance to harm me.

I've been licked but not bitten by a variety of dogs.

Your stupid. Everyone in the universe has had the same. Only the last 10-15 years have dog attacks been an issue and thats because people keep getting vicious dogs instead normal sane obedient dogs!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   13:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard (#27)

I've posted numerous stories about good cops here.

Can you tell me where this cop/human when wrong?

Was his problem that he was in the wrong universe?

Do you treat people who knock on doors by having your dog attack them?

I bet you never even seen the video but just posted it because it had a cop killing something and that pissed you off!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   13:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Justified (#29)

3 things struck me about this video:

1. The cop approached the door very cautiously and suspiciously like he knew something was going to happen.

2. As soon as the door was opened, the dog rushed out before anyone else.

3. The dog ran very deliberately and quickly towards the cop.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-10-23   13:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Justified (#30)

I bet you never even seen the video

I watched the video and saw a dog run out of the house and then was shot by a diaper-wetting cop who will now claim he "feared for his life".

Why is it that mailmen, pizza delivery guys, meter readers and others who interact with dogs on a daily basis are able to deal with family pets without killing them?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-23   13:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Justified (#30)

Oh, and why is that woman coming outside wearing only her bra on top?

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-10-23   13:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: no gnu taxes (#31)

3 things struck me about this video:

1. The cop approached the door very cautiously and suspiciously like he knew something was going to happen.

2. As soon as the door was opened, the dog rushed out before anyone else.

3. The dog ran very deliberately and quickly towards the cop.

Exactly.

There was no time to pet the dog or ask the owner to stop the dog and he certainly could not out run the dog.

If you actually watch the video you see the truth.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   13:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Deckard (#32)

Why is it that mailmen, pizza delivery guys, meter readers and others who interact with dogs on a daily basis are able to deal with family pets without killing them?

They do get attacked moron. All the freakin time.

There was no time to do anything but get bit or kill the dog! YOu know this, I know this and every sane person in the world knows this.

You are just a turd and no amount of truth is going to bring you back to reality.

If that would have been you we would be reading an article of how a dog maimed a mentally challenged person!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   13:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Deckard (#32)

Why is it that mailmen

Come on, Deckard. There has to be at least a million jokes about how dogs hate mailmen. How do you think those jokes originated?

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-10-23   14:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: no gnu taxes (#33)

Oh, and why is that woman coming outside wearing only her bra on top?

I have no idea. She lost control of the dog. I could see it after watch this video 1/2 dozen times. She had the dog by the collar and it got away.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   14:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: no gnu taxes (#36)

Deckard

He lives in a yella hate filled world.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-23   14:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard, Fred Mertz (#32)

" Why is it that mailmen, pizza delivery guys, meter readers and others who interact with dogs on a daily basis are able to deal with family pets without killing them? "

I worked for years for the Telephone Company, was in & out of many yards, and encountered many, many dogs. Never ever was bit. Plenty licked my hand, and I petted many, but never, ever was bitten, and never even thought I would be bit. I encountered many different types of dogs, small dogs, German Shepherds, Rotweilers, D Pincers, retrievers, hunting dogs, mutts, etc. Cops like the guy in the OP are either just looking for a reason to "kill something" to prove how "bad" they are, or they are just so wussified they should not be in that job.

I'm with Fred, come onto my property, and harm one of mine, you will be carried out.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-23   15:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Stoner (#39)

I have to call bs bs. I have been bitten more times than I can count. Last time the owner swore up and down that the dog would not bite. Well it bit me. Now I demand they put the dog or dogs(more than a couple of animals means you have mental issues) up in a secure location until im done with what needs to be done.

I have even had a owner stand there while we were talking and the dog was chewing up my pants! I had to start laughing because it never phase the owner that the dog was tearing up my pants!

Guns don't kill but dogs do!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   15:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Stoner (#39)

BTW No one can possible look at that video and not say self defense.

You want to blame someone blame the stupid owner. She could not control the dog. She let the dog out. She did not train the dog to obey. The dog paid the price because of the owner, period. Hate her not the guy defending himself!!!

My god man thats like blaming a woman because she killed a rapist!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   15:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Justified (#40)

" I have to call bs bs "

So Einstein, what are you saying I'm BSing ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-23   17:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Stoner (#42)

Yes. If you spent anytime in the last 10 years in the field you will get bit by a dog. The place I get bit the most is still inside the house or when a dumbass lets their dog out when they come out. Kinda like this video shows.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   17:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Justified (#43)

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Look Einstein, I retired from there a number of years ago, and I worked there for 14 years. Never once bitten, or attacked. I still stand by my earlier post.

If you do not believe me, fine, I could not care less.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-23   18:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Stoner (#44)

Well prior to 2000 I really had no issues with dogs. Then everyone wanted pit mixes and rots. These are the number one and two dogs of attack. In fact pits/pit mix account for nearly 80% of all maulings/murders. Prior to 2000 I only saw pits in really poor black and hispanic neighborhoods where they raise them to fight. Its so bad that cities have banned vicious dogs and holding owners responsible for their dogs actions. Thats why many of these dog owners stop registering their dogs so they will not be responsible for their dogs.

If you have been out of the field for a good while then count your blessings!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-23   18:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Justified (#40)

I have to call bs bs. I have been bitten more times than I can count.

Just to add one more bit of information to your pea brain.

Dogs can tell or smell bad people. You must be one of them. Ask anyone.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-23   20:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Stoner (#42)

Hi Stoner, I gave a biscuit to Betsie this afternoon. She sees me and my car and now expects it - the spoiled bitch.

And she licked me too!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-23   20:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Fred Mertz (#47)

" I gave a biscuit to Betsie this afternoon "

Well good for you. I keep dog treats at my basement door, at the side door, up at my shop building, and in my truck. Where ever I am, I can give treats to my crew. They naturally love it.

Is Betsie yours, or does she belong to one of your neighbors?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-23   20:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Stoner (#48)

Betsie is my friend's next door neighbor's dog in a small apartment complex in a small rural town - 14 units.

I hope I got those apostrophes correct or Justified will call me an idiot again.

I love dogs and other four-legged critters. Sometimes more than humans.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-23   20:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Fred Mertz (#49)

" I love dogs and other four-legged critters. Sometimes more than humans. "

Same here. I have never met a dog that I did not like. I cannot say the same about humans.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-23   20:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Fred Mertz, nutless yukon, dog treats (#46)

Dogs can tell or smell bad people

Yes, yukon ended up nutless due to that, maybe?


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"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-10-23   20:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: hondo68, Stoner (#51)

It has been four years now, but I think I need another dog. I honestly believe he or she will add ten years to my life.

I'll let you know when I take the plunge. It is a responsibility as you know. Love and hate - love them when I'm home and hate it when I head out of town.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-23   20:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Fred Mertz (#52)

" I think I need another dog "

Fred, go to your local Shelter, and pick one out to adopt. I have done that several times, and never regretted it.

Six years ago, I adopted a senior dog, mixed/border collie. He was about six years old at the time, and no one wanted him because he was older, and he was black. He was about to be put down because they were out of room. I could not have asked for a better friend. He died recently, and I really miss him. I feel good that I gave him six years.

Get one out of the shelter Fred. You will not regret it.

Let me know what you do.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-23   21:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Stoner (#53)

Border collies are the smartest. Mine had some of that in her. She was a mutt, like me. Healthiest and and most loyal.

I'm not going to bad mouth dog owners, but those high pedigree types are not for me.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-23   21:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Fred Mertz (#54)

Rescue one out of the shelter, and save a life. You will not regret it.

Most of the shelters are online, and you can see photo's & other info on the dogs they have. Do a google search, your local shelter probably is on line.

Good luck Fred!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-23   21:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Justified (#45)

These are the number one and two dogs of attack. In fact pits/pit mix account for nearly 80% of all maulings/murders. Prior to 2000 I only saw pits in really poor black and hispanic neighborhoods where they raise them to fight. Its so bad that cities have banned vicious dogs and holding owners responsible for their dogs actions.

Pits are bred to toggle into insane rage and kill unpredictively. People around here get them to contribute to their macho image. I don't like the breed. Surprisingly enough I find wolves to be affectionate and stable souls. They get a bad rap because of the way they need to make a living in the wild. People get wolves or wolf hybrids around here to bolster their pretense of being tough characters.

rlk  posted on  2015-10-23   21:58:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Fred Mertz (#46)

Dogs can tell or smell bad people.

Amen to that!

rlk  posted on  2015-10-23   22:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Stoner (#55)

Rescue one out of the shelter, and save a life. You will not regret it.

The dog pounds have an abundence of lonely souls just hoping to find a friend.

rlk  posted on  2015-10-23   22:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Justified, Deckard, Fred Mertz, rlk, stoner (#3)

There is no dog worth one drop of innocent blood.

You want to blame someone blame the idiot owner!

Your comments here really set the stage, and explains your whole position. They really struck me as odd since I read them earlier today.

For me, this video is hard to watch. I have dogs. It's obvious you do not own a dog, at least not one you are fond of. To you they are just animals. One of my dogs likes to sleep in my lap just about all the time. It's a poodle we rescued off the street, with grossly overgrown hair and a piece of barbed wire stuck in her fur. She was quite fearful of us when on the street but still hung out enough for us to catch her and have a local vet clean her up. Perhaps the trauma from a life as a stray is why she likes to sleep in my lap all the time. A bit of PTSD, or whatever it is, in dog terms.

You are wrong, Justified. There are dogs worth more than drops of innocent blood. Your statement there is patently false. I'd give drops of my blood if it would bring the dog in the video back to life, and I know I'm not the only one. Of course you wouldn't give anything at all, because you don't like dogs, and maybe even hate them, and that's fine. At least fine for me. It's your loss, really, or maybe you just don't lack companionship. If so, great.

But don't tell others what their values should be, or how they are to regard their pets. That is not your place at all.

As for "idiot owners", being idiots for letting their dog escape when the door was knocked on, that is simply what happens sometimes with dogs. They get out. Babies poop their pants, and dogs sometimes escape. That's just the way life is. All dog owners know this. Having a 100% clean track record on keeping dogs captive is simply not reality. In the case of the video, the dog was killed while on the owner's property, simply because a wussy cop did not have the fortitude that UPS drivers, Pizza delivery guys, mailmen and plumbers apparently do have. Only a cop would pull out a deadly weapon and slay a homeowner's pet. Anyone else would deal with it some other non fatal way.

Was the cop really in a life threatening situation? If the dog had his shots, then there was no serious risk at all to the cop. But no, the risk of a scratch or a minor bite, assuming that was even a real risk which it probably wasn't, was just too much for this cop to bear. Why, because the moment he drew his weapon, he proved he was a wus.

These owners may never forgive this cop for what he did, and certainly they will hold animosity against all cops because of the actions of this one. You can say it was the home owners fault, but at the end of the day, one family and probably more in that community, will despise cops all the more because of this cowardly incident, and that is bad for the cops.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-10-24   6:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: rlk, Fred Mertz (#58)

" The dog pounds have an abundence of lonely souls just hoping to find a friend. "

Very well stated Robert, very well stated !! Very spot on.

Take note Fred.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-24   7:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Pinguinite (#59)

Bravo, nicely stated.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   8:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Pinguinite (#59)

I watched the video. Then I had my wife watch it to get her opinion.

We think the officer was justified in this case. The dog attacked right away without warning.

It is lawful for any person to kill a dog when attacked.

It is still sad that the people lost their pet.

Someone had to open the door it didn't open itself.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-24   9:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Pinguinite (#59)

I got bit by a dog earlier this year looking at a job. Just a little dog but it drew blood. I would have liked to kick the shit out of the dog.

Also one of your points was that if the dog had its shots everything should be ok. Well how does the officer know if it had its shots. He is just charged without warning and takes action.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-24   9:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#62)

Someone had to open the door it didn't open itself.

Lame comment from a lamebrain.

A friend of mine had marital problems and fights with his spouse. Deputy sheriff visits his apt/home to issue a protective order of some sort. Friend doesn't answer door, end of case.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   9:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#63)

I got bit by a dog earlier this year looking at a job.

More evidence that you're a bad person. Dogs can tell.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   9:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Fred Mertz (#65)

No they can't tell Fred. But they are smarter then you are.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-24   9:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Fred Mertz (#64)

Who was the person who opened the door and let the dog run out first?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-24   9:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#66)

But they are smarter then [sic] you are.

Than, you idjit.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   9:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: A K A Stone (#67)

"Who was the person who opened the door and let the dog run out first?"

According to the article, the door was opened "slightly".

My definition of "slightly" is not, "wide enough to let a 40-pound dog through".

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-24   9:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#63)

Also one of your points was that if the dog had its shots everything should be ok. Well how does the officer know if it had its shots. He is just charged without warning and takes action.

If that's the logic, how does the family know this cop isn't there to gun them all down? They don't, so they should shoot the officer immediately, because they just don't know. He has a gun, and he's on the front step.

Just assume everyone at all times is the worst criminal possible and take appropriate action, because you just never know, and then you'll be exonerated because you had a legit fear for your life.

And for the cop, the family might not have complied with ordinance related to their dog's shots. So shoot the dog... just in case.

Everyone should just shoot everyone first, because no one knows for a fact what the intentions of the other person is. Always assume criminal intent.

Why isn't that your philosophy?

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-10-24   11:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone (#67)

Who was the person who opened the door and let the dog run out first?

The owner who was expecting a friend show up, for whom the dog was familiar with and well liked?

Without audio, there's no evidence of an attack. It could have been a friendly greeting. The dog's tail was wagging even after getting shot, which is NOT something dogs do when attacking.

Local cops are supposed to be a bit familiar with the people and families in the areas they patrol. They would know who has dogs and even what the dog's names are. At least they used to be in the old days. These days, cops don't know squat about the people in the areas they patrol. They are not there to "server and protect". Just coldly patrol, not serving, but rather watching and waiting for any of the people they "serve" to make a mistake.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-10-24   11:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Justified (#25)

If anyone here has a major issue about cops its you. You hate all cops good or bad. The word cop sends you into frenzy of hate.

Bingo....

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-24   11:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Pinguinite (#59)

For me, this video is hard to watch. I have dogs. It's obvious you do not own a dog, at least not one you are fond of. To you they are just animals. One of my dogs likes to sleep in my lap just about all the time. It's a poodle we rescued off the street, with grossly overgrown hair and a piece of barbed wire stuck in her fur. She was quite fearful of us when on the street but still hung out enough for us to catch her and have a local vet clean her up. Perhaps the trauma from a life as a stray is why she likes to sleep in my lap all the time. A bit of PTSD, or whatever it is, in dog terms.

You and a few others here are dribble.

I like dogs. I have owned a few. I have owned a few animals. Yes I did love my animals. But in the end I am sane enough to realize that they are animals not humans. You should never mistreat an animal.

This video is a clear cut case of self defense. The fact that you and only a few others can not see this tells me you are mentally twisted about dogs. You would have an innocent person hurt to keep a dog from being hurt even though the dog is clearly the aggressor.

Yes the more I have to defend myself because stupid dog owners[good owners take care so their dog doesn't harm others] the more I come to dislike aggressive breeds of dogs such as pits and rots.

You are wrong, Justified. There are dogs worth more than drops of innocent blood.

No im right. Ask a parent if its okay that a dog harms their kid even a little. When they punch you in the eye you will have the truth.

It seems to me and probably the sane world that you guys have issues with humans?

These owners may never forgive this cop

Why? It was their own damn fault the dog attack the cop who did not provoke the dog or the owner. Twisted little minds! This guy[who cares that it was an officer it could have been a little child instead] had no other alternative but to kill the dog or what im sure your twisted little mind thinks is better get bit up.

I bet this makes you happy execpt for the part where the dogs were put to death. 5-Year-Old Boy Days Away From Sixth Birthday Mauled to Death By Two Dogs While at Friend's House

Justified  posted on  2015-10-24   20:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Justified (#73)

I like dogs. I have owned a few. I have owned a few animals. Yes I did love my animals. But in the end I am sane enough to realize that they are animal

Exactly.... and don't be surprised by the PETA posters. It's a libtard AGENDA to equate humans with animals... and we have a shit-ton of libtards posting here.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-24   20:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: GrandIsland (#74)

Exactly.... and don't be surprised by the PETA posters. It's a libtard AGENDA to equate humans with animals... and we have a shit-ton of libtards posting here.

I believe they are people who can't relate to other people and bond with animals in an unholy way. Make them their child. Extremism is bad no matter which side of the fence you are on or subject.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-24   20:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Justified (#75)

I believe they are people who can't relate to other people and bond with animals in an unholy way.

You are probably right.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-24   20:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: GrandIsland (#76) (Edited)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   20:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Fred Mertz (#77) (Edited)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-24   20:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: A K A Stone (#78)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   21:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: A K A Stone (#78)

Tard.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   21:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: GrandIsland (#74) (Edited)

Exactly.... and don't be surprised by the PETA posters. It's a libtard AGENDA to equate humans with animals..

ROTFLOL!

I don't see anyone from PETA jumping on the bandwagon to condemn the epidemic of cowardly cops shooting and killing dogs and other family pets.

Now Why Would Cops Need to Kill a Pet Parakeet?

Looks like what you are saying is that cruelty to animals by badged thugs (or anyone for that matter) is a "conservative" position.

One of the more idiotic things I've seen you post.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-24   21:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: A K A Stone, Pinguinite (#62)

The dog attacked right away without warning.

The dog came out of the doorway and charged the cop. The cop reacted to the dog charging at him. There was no time to evaluate whether dog was going to attack or greet. Fault does not lie with the cop or the dog. Fault lies with the owner for neither training the dog to behave better nor restraining the dog before opening the door.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-24   21:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: nolu chan (#82)

You continue to be an A+ a-hole with a pussy.

Need a tampon?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   21:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Fred Mertz, nolu chan (#83)

It is a clear cut case of self defense. Feel sorry for the dog. Don't blame the person defending themselves just because you like dogs more than people.

Calling people names just because you are wrong just shows your character.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-24   21:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Justified (#84)

Calling people names just because you are wrong just shows your character.

Retard, coke head, dog hater, redneck, white trash.

Did you see that poor dog's tail wagging while he was dying?

I'll add heartless to the list.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   21:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Fred Mertz (#85)

Did you see that poor dog's tail wagging while he was dying?

It was a nerve response from being shot.

Did you see the dog charge the guy in an aggressive manner? All people that are objective did!

I don't hate good dogs shit for brains. Not that you would listen to anything but what you want. Facts are just sand blocking your hidden desires of human hate.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-24   21:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Justified (#86)

Go suck an egg, ratboy.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-24   21:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: nolu chan (#82)

The dog came out of the doorway and charged the cop. The cop reacted

Nolu, I do respect your ability to research law and such.

But there are times when a higher moral calling trumps legal considerations, and at those times, the RIGHT thing to do also happens to be the illegal thing to do. A time when you say "Screw the law, I'm doing this" or not doing that. Whatever.

Or in this case, a time when, just because someone may be justified in harming or killing another, they chose instead to spare a life.

This cop did not need to kill this dog. That he did so was very unfortunate, and was bad for him, worse for the family and the dog, and not good for the community and other cops who should be relying on good community relations.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-10-25   3:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Justified (#73)

These owners may never forgive this cop

Why?

Why? You need help with this?

There's a saying in retail biz. The customer is always right. If they don't want to forgive, they won't, and they will just get used to hating cops, which is bad for cops. And the same goes for family and friends.

And that's even worse for cops.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-10-25   3:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Pinguinite (#88)

The dog came out of the doorway and charged the cop. The cop reacted

The crux of this argument center around the word "charged" with carries with it a powerful emotional context of hostile aggressiveness. The hostile act was never conclusively acted out but was primarily in the imagination of the people asserting dramatic justification for a necessary defensive act.

rlk  posted on  2015-10-25   4:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone, GrandIsland, Deckard, Pinguinite, nolu chan, rlk (#90)

Lets clear up the bs here.

I have watch this video probably a couple of dozen times if not more trying to figure out what happen and why. The The door opens at 25 seconds into the video

1) The person politely and gently knocks on the door and steps back.(17sec in)

2) The door starts to open with the guy nearly 3ft back from the door.(25sec in)

3) The dog is notice by the office which he then puts his hands on is side arm.(26sec in)

4) The dog attacks with NO TAIL WAGING. The dogs butt is low and the dog is charging the guy who pulls his weapon and starts to retreats.(27sec in)

5) The guy retreats about 4-5ft when he shoots the dog point blank in the head.

6) The dog falls literally on the mans left foot.(28sec in)

7) The dog head lies about 9ft out from the door.

8) At the 28sec frame you can see her hand outside the door where she lost control of the dog.

The more I watch it the more you realize this guy only had 2 seconds before being bit by the dog. Thats 1 Mississippi 2 Mississippi.

Conclusion. She opened the door with a vicious dog that she could not control and lost control with the dog as it pushed open the door and charge the guy who by a miracle did not get bit. The owner is at fault. No if ands or buts!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   12:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Pinguinite (#89)

There's a saying in retail biz. The customer is always right.

Even when they rob them?

Anyone that actually looks at the video who doesn't hate cops for just being alive or have an abnormal love of animals and hate for humans will conclude that it was the owners fault.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   13:01:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Justified, pinguinite (#91)

Conclusion. She opened the door with a vicious dog that she could not control and lost control with the dog as it pushed open the door and charge the guy who by a miracle did not get bit.

That condlusion isn't necessarily true. The dog could have just jumped up on the officer and started licking him. The dog wasn't necessarily vicious.

But the officer wasn't sure what the dog was going to do. So he killed the dog.

Like others have pointed out. Other people have dogs run at them or jump up on them. They aren't armed. I'd say the majority of the time the dogs don't bite the person. Still I can't fault the officer in this instance.

If it was me I might have let the dog bight me or attack me before killing it.

But i'm not an officer who carries a gun around all day. I'm sure it is an officers duty not to get incapacitated. Also being an officer and having law the police on your side. I'm sure it makes you have a lower standard to pull the trigger then an ordinary citizen. In this instance or any. I mean they are the "law".

Still in this case the officer was justified imo.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-25   13:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: A K A Stone (#93)

If it was me I might have let the dog bight me or attack me before killing it.

Actually the dog was in fight mode. You can see in the video where I have pointed out the dogs stance. This dog was going to hurt him and maybe maim him for life.

I have been bit so many times I will not hesitate if I feel the dog is going to attack. Now if its a small dog or a dog who can't really harm me I would just kick him or smack him. But a pit/rot mix is no dog to mess with.

All I can think about is what if this had been some child knocking on the door? It would be another mauling if not murder by viscous dog. People have to take responsibility for their animals actions. Because people are so afraid they will get sued because of their animal they will not tag them or register them so they can claim its not their dog.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   13:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Justified, Drama Queen Alert! (#94)

This dog was going to hurt him and maybe maim him for life.

Drama Queen Alert!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-25   13:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Justified (#94)

Time for you to change your tampon.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-25   13:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Fred Mertz (#95)

Drama Queen Alert!

Talk about drama queen! The dog got what the dog got because of a stupid owner. The man defended himself properly. Getting bit by a vicious dog is not smart and is down right stupid. I see you are stupid and would rather get bit then defend yourself which is your right as an idiot.

You can whine and degrade others but in the end the truth is what it is!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   13:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Justified (#97)

What business did that strange black man have at that home?

Dog don't like strangers and neither do I.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-25   13:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: A K A Stone (#93)

Like others have pointed out. Other people have dogs run at them or jump up on them. They aren't armed. I'd say the majority of the time the dogs don't bite the person. Still I can't fault the officer in this instance.

Kicking the dog, tasing the dog, is fine. Those are non-lethal countermeasures (usually, at least, with tasers). At least give the owner a chance to order command the dog to back off which could take as little as a half second, before killing him. But no, this cop chose to use lethal countermeasures as a first resort. Not to mention the dangers shooting his gun may have posed to other people there, as happens sometimes.

So, I disagree, and I do fault the officer, *even* if he *was* technically in the right, which is uncertain.

If it was me I might have let the dog bight me or attack me before killing it.

All of us have dogs that act in a hostile manner toward us from time to time, and in virtually all cases, it's not a big deal, especially when the owner is present. And dogs do get though doors sometimes. Heck, in this case, the owner may have had no reason to think that it was a stranger knocking on the door. Might have expected a family friend that the dog normally happily greets. Even so, the dog was on his home turf at the time of the shooting. The cop was not. But dogs getting out on occasion is life, and if it meant that every dog that ever escaped even once should be killed, no one would ever be allowed to have a dog. If a cop can't handle the presence of a mildly hostile dog for 1.5 seconds without pulling out his gun, even assuming this dog was hostile, then he shouldn't be a cop.

Now there are cases where shooting dogs is justified and I'm fine with that, but I don't see that here.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-10-25   14:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Fred Mertz (#98)

What business did that strange black man have at that home?

Who gives a crap why he was there. As long as he was there in a legal manner. Anyone has a right to knock on the door. Are you just a freaking moron?

What if a kid got hurt in an accident and knocks on the door? Would that be okay to sick a dog on them? Maim/Kill them just because they knocked on your door?

People like you should be give the same right as other sane people to vote! No wonder Amerika is heading to toilets of history!!!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   14:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Pinguinite (#99)

Kicking the dog, tasing the dog, is fine.

Did he have a taser? If he had one could he draw it fast enough to since taser are secondary tools and not your primary deadly force tool. Basically guns are always primary just in case and taser is a control tool which is not in a primary or quick draw position.

He would have gotten bitten if he kicked the dog and the owner could not control the dog at the door while she had him by the collar what makes you think she could have controlled him while the dog was in attack mode?

This guy was justified and really had other other means but to put the dog down.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   14:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Justified, Fred Mertz (#100)

Would that be okay to sick a dog on them?

No one "sicced" the dog on anyone you babbling cop worshiper.

The dog ran out of the house - the cop wet his pants in fear and shot a family pet.

No wonder Amerika is heading to toilets of history!!!

Yep - and it's the behavior of cowardly badged thugs like the one depicted in the video and the mindless sycophants who defend him who are leading the way

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-25   14:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Deckard (#102)

I gave up on that boot-licker. Good luck with it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-25   14:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Deckard (#102)

No one "sicced" the dog on anyone you babbling cop worshiper.

See you bring cop into this when its truly irrelevant! Its your hate for cops that will not let you see the truth. I feel sorry for you guys that your hate overloads you from the truth. It must just sucking living in such a world.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   14:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Justified (#104)

See you bring cop into this when its [sic] truly irrelevant!

He had a gun retardo. If he was a mailman he likely would have had a dog biscuit.

Irrelevant my patootie!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-25   14:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Fred Mertz (#103)

I gave up on that boot-licker. Good luck with it.

Your hate for cops messed up your mind. How sad. This could have been anyone else not just a cop. No jury or judge would find wrong with defending yourself against an aggressive dog.

The fact that you cop haters see only cops as bad everything else good is a mental disease. You guys need to seek help!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   14:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Fred Mertz (#105)

He had a gun retardo. If he was a mailman he likely would have had a dog biscuit.

I have a gun too and I would have shot the damn dog myself in his situation. The only difference would have been I would have gotten bitten for the few extra seconds it would have taken to draw my weapon because its concealed.

Dog biscuit my ass! The dog would have taken your limp wristed hand off.

To bad piece shits like you are not the one in this position. Then you would be singing a whole other tune.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   14:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Justified (#104)

See you bring cop into this when its truly irrelevant!

Irrelevant?

It was a cop who shot the dog.

You're here trying to spin this as a Hillaryesque "for the children" moment.

Why is it that others who encounter dogs on a routine basis do not cowardly gun down innocent family pets?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-25   14:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Justified (#107)

I have a gun too and I would have shot the damn dog myself in his situation.

Attaboy!

That statement tells me all I need to know about you

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-10-25   14:42:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Deckard (#108)

See you bring cop into this when its truly irrelevant!

Irrelevant?

It was a cop who shot the dog.

It is irrelevant! You see cop and have a conniption and I see the whole situation and give it an honest look no matter who was defending themselves with deadly force!

I believe people like you got the kid killed up north by a cop. You guys are insane!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   14:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Justified (#107)

I have a gun too and I would have shot the damn dog myself in his situation.

And in fair exchange, I would have blasted you with both barrels if you did that to my dog.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-25   14:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Deckard (#109)

I have a gun too and I would have shot the damn dog myself in his situation.

Attaboy!

That statement tells me all I need to know about you

Yes it tells you that I will defend myself with deadly force if necessary!

Im sure you would tuck in ball and cry where's the police as your crying like a little girl!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   14:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Fred Mertz (#111)

I have a gun too and I would have shot the damn dog myself in his situation.

And in fair exchange, I would have blasted you with both barrels if you did that to my dog.

You would died on the spot while the police go damn another stupid person got what they deserve!

And if you did shot me it would have been from behind because I can tell you are a coward. They would have hung your ass and the jury would have taken minutes to decide.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   14:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Justified (#113)

Not sure if I'd shoot you in the piehole, chest or head. I might have to reload and shoot off your typing fingers too.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-25   14:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Fred Mertz, justified (#114)

Never give Chief here a gun or firewater.

I thought he still used bows and arrows.

I wonder who gave chief the gun.

Chief is describing himself as the exact type of person that liberals use to demonize gun owners.

Chief no firewater.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-25   14:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: A K A Stone (#115)

That bastard called me a back shooter. I'd shoot him while looking him in the eye.

I'd never kill a dog though.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-25   15:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Fred Mertz (#114)

Not sure if I'd shoot you in the piehole, chest or head. I might have to reload and shoot off your typing fingers too.

You would have peed your pants. The moment I saw a weapon you would be dead.

The problem hear is you think animals have more rights than people. Its your extreme nature that makes you a kook. The man did not attack the dog. It was the dog that attack the man. In every way you slice this situation dog died because of its nature and it was the responsibility of the owner to protect and she failed miserable. Put the blame where blame is warranted, with the owner!

You guys can try to twisted this all you want. The truth is what it is which is the guy(who gives a crap what he did for a living) was attack by a vicious dog and he defended himself with the only reasonable way he could.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   15:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Fred Mertz (#116)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-25   15:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Fred Mertz (#116)

That bastard called me a back shooter. I'd shoot him while looking him in the eye.

I'd never kill a dog though.

Your a child! Well at least mentally! LOL

Go grab a glass wine and get over your biases. I can tell you are a women thats why I said wine! ;)

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   15:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: A K A Stone (#118)

That was a favorite movie of mine when I was a kid. Old Yeller!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-25   15:11:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: A K A Stone (#118)

You believe in Hollywood fiction?

Justified probably had a wet dream every time he saw that scene.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-25   15:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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