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Some FA pitching decisions to make.


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#202. To: CZ82 (#201)

Looks like they are going to 'hold' on what they have. Probably go after bargains in Feb like you noted earlier. All quiet on the Texas front:)

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-12-17   13:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: redleghunter (#202)

Looks like they are going to 'hold' on what they have.

I just heard they resigned Colby for 1 year and gave him a raise so that should fill in the rotation for now. Gonzo should be #5 unless he stinks in Spring Training... I still think they will go after another 1-2 arms unless they are confident in what is in AAA...

I think they are still kicking the tires on young RHed pitchers with at least 3 years of control, but as of now no takers for a decent price...

Speaking of kicking the tires they signed this kid to a tryout contract, he can hit 95!!!

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2015/12/18/rangers-sign- troubled-former-1-pick-matt-bush-minor-league-contract?f=r

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CZ82  posted on  2015-12-18   18:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: redleghunter (#202) (Edited)

Also looks like they signed a RHed OFer to platoon with Josh in LF next year... He will be in against LHers and maybe if Josh gets hurt for a short period of time... (Would say this might rule out them resigning Stubbs)...

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2015/12/17/move-josh- hamilton-rangers-sign-justin-ruggiano?f=r

Well Napoli signed with the Indians so they still should be in the market for a RHed power bat. That is unless they think Patrick Kivlehan can win that job out of Spring Training... He's versatile (can play IF and OF) so he could be a good cheap bench player...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-12-18   18:40:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: CZ82 (#204)

Thanks glad to see Colby back.

A team stream report I received said they are looking to the Rays for a trade.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-12-18   21:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: redleghunter (#205)

If it's Odorizzi I'd pass, he's a fly ball pitcher like Colby...

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CZ82  posted on  2015-12-18   21:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: redleghunter (#205)

http://espn.go.com/minorlbk/story/_/id/14418322/double-frisco-roughriders-hold-runner-night-2016

Thought you might get a chuckle out of this...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-12-22   6:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: CZ82 (#207)

http://espn.go.com/minorlbk/story/_/id/14418322/double-frisco-roughriders-hold-runner-night-2016

Thought you might get a chuckle out of this...

LOL, yeah that's clever and funny. Just a way to get a nice looking young woman near their club house:)

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-12-22   13:06:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: redleghunter (#208)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14426800/mlb-strange-true-feats-2015

• And how did this happen? The Twins got a triple from three hitters in the same inning of their June 14 game in Texas -- but scored only one run. (So how did that happen? Shane Robinson got picked off third by Robinson Chirinos after triple No. 2. That's how.)

Here's an article you might find interesting/amusing, along with an excerpt...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-12-28   17:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: CZ82 (#209)

Fun read thanks.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-12-28   18:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#210)

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/90877/yankees-add-aroldis-chapman-and-his-baggage-to-stacked-bronx-bullpen

Did you see the Yankees traded for Aroldis Chapman???

Looks like they are another team that realize "adequate" starting pitching is hard to come by and are making their pen deeper... Am curious as to how many pitchers they will have on the opening day roster???

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-12-28   20:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: CZ82, redleghunter (#211)

The Yanks gave up 4 minor leagues who are not considered big prospects (1 former 1st round pick who appeared to the Yanks to be a bust ). It's an impressive back end of the bullpen.

Question remains about the number of games he will be suspended due to domestic violence (Guess I have to tone down my critique of the Cowboys signing Greg Hardy.) Currently he is arbitration eligible ,and a free agent after this season. BUT ,if he serves significant suspension time ,it extends the time the Yanks control his deal.

I don't think Cashman is finished dealing . He has already opened the door for a possible trade of Andrew Miller to fill other needs ,like a young top end starter (dare I think Jose Fernandez ? ) If not ,the combo of Chapman,Miller , Betances could anchor the best bull pen of all time.

I also think the Yanks may consider moving Ivan Nova to fill a need.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-29   8:00:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: tomder55, CZ82 (#212)

Cashmen is probably trying to figure out how to get rid of Aroid. Maybe the Dodgers:)

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-12-29   21:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: redleghunter, CZ82 (#213)

Cashmen is probably trying to figure out how to get rid of Aroid. Maybe the Dodgers:)

That would be nice. There are other players on the team that could use a semi- day off in the DH position .(Beltran ,Tex ) But we know he can't be moved . The Yanks would still have to eat a mouthful of his salary . He barely can handle the DH role so any NL team would be out of the question.

The only things positive to say about his time last year was that he emerged as an occasional threat in the middle of the line up ;and that he assumed a leadership role on the team. He had no big controversies ,and said all the right things .

The good thing for the Yanks is they can begin shedding the high salaries of players like Tex starting 2017 .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-30   6:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: tomder55 (#212)

I also think the Yanks may consider moving Ivan Nova to fill a need.

If they do that then they would need 2 more starters vs just the one they could use now. Seems most teams need to have at least 8-9 starters in the system to have a chance at making it thru the season with injuries and all...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-01   8:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: tomder55 (#214)

That would be nice. There are other players on the team that could use a semi- day off in the DH position .(Beltran ,Tex ) But we know he can't be moved . The Yanks would still have to eat a mouthful of his salary . He barely can handle the DH role so any NL team would be out of the question.

The Rangers just signed a versatile guy Justin Ruggiano (RHed batter)they plan to use as a platoon player in the OF. This is so Choo and Hamilton (LHed batters) have a few more days off during the season, and the team would have a better balanced lineup against the LHed pitching... IIRC they faced LHed starters about 70 times and had about a .500 record against them...

They also traded for a guy to do the same thing in the IF (if he can make the team out of Spring training) and that's Patrick Kivlehan. They're also hoping he can furnish some RHed power in the lineup. He can give Beltre, Fielder and Moreland days off when they need them...

I don't think playing a guy all 162 games is necessary or a good thing. They're just like us in that we need days off from work need that mental break, so do they. I would rather have them play 140-145 and be at the top of their game, than dragging ass late in the season when a playoff run may be needed, fading out altogether come playoff time, that's "IF" they make the playoffs...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-01   8:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: CZ82 (#215)

but the reason they would consider moving Nova is because he is close to free agency and coming off Tommy John. They could move him in a package to get a starter with multiple years of control . Although Nova has valuable as a 5th starter/long relief guy ,his value is limited because he only had a couple good seasons ,and he never developed a 3rd pitch. Plus he's 29.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2016-01-02   8:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: tomder55 (#217)

It's kinda hard to get takers on someone with a +5.00 ERA last year, right now he isn't worth much. It might be better to let him start the season and hopefully he pitches well enough you can get some takers for him at the Trade Deadline...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-02   9:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#217)

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14439393/mlb-strange-true-postseason-feats-2015

Thought you guys might be interested in this...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-04   17:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: redleghunter (#213)

Our rumors roundup continues with news on another prominent outfielder still on the market: ▪ Justin Upton: The Texas Rangers are interested in Upton, but only on a one-year contract, tweets Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports. Upton is still seeking a longer deal, but a one-year contract could be an option down the road if the market remains stalled. Upton is just 28 and coming off a sub-par year in San Diego (.251/.336/.445). He could add to his value with a big 2016 season and re-enter the weaker free-agent outfield market next winter.

Didn't know if you've seen this or not...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-10   8:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: CZ82 (#220)

Knew the interest was there. But can they afford even a one year contract?

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-10   19:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: redleghunter (#221)

Knew the interest was there. But can they afford even a one year contract?

There are a lot of good OFers in the same predicament as he is, not enough teams available for all the big names available. And Upton is doing a Cruz wanting a mega long term deal. This will turn a lot of teams off because of his performance last year and he could go unsigned for quite a bit longer. Their payroll is down $11M from last year and I can see him getting antsy so I would say yes they could do it...

BTA I can also see them going after another RHed pitcher so no matter how you look at it they will have to spend some more money or make a trade or two...

But will they do anything before the season starts that's the biggest question mark, they may very well wait until the trade deadline...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-11   8:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: redleghunter (#221) (Edited)

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/mlb/texas- rangers/article53378635.html

A little bit more information.

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CZ82  posted on  2016-01-12   7:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: CZ82 (#223)

Thanks. Time is short but knowing JD he is looking for bargains as you note.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-12   10:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: redleghunter (#224)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14549212/no-end-sight-justin-upton-free-agent-adventure

Now I can see why people aren't falling over themselves to offer Upton a contract, at least not one that he thinks should go with all the hype surrounding him...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-13   8:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: CZ82 (#225)

Rangers pitchers and catchers report 19 Feb. Rest of the squad 24 Feb. Baseball 2016 just around the corner. :)

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-13   9:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: redleghunter (#226)

Rangers pitchers and catchers report 19 Feb. Rest of the squad 24 Feb. Baseball 2016 just around the corner. :)

2 days before Daytona cool. That's usually the timeframe where the cold weather starts to break up here and you know Spring is just a few weeks away...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-13   10:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: CZ82 (#227)

2 days before Daytona cool. That's usually the timeframe where the cold weather starts to break up here and you know Spring is just a few weeks away...

We really have not had much cold here in Central Texas this winter so far. I'm sure we will get a few days here and there near freezing but think we only had one day under 32F here at night.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-13   16:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: redleghunter (#228)

We hadn't really had any cold weather until the last few days, Christmas day was right at 60 but last night was 0 degrees...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-13   19:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: redleghunter (#228)

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2016/01/13/rangers-monitor-workout-cricket-player-seeking-career-change?f=r

Thought you might find this interesting...

Now I know why I haven't seen Chris Sabo lately he's hiding out in Florida, lucky dog...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-14   18:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: redleghunter (#228)

http://m.rangers.mlb.com/news/article/161749778/rangers-have-seven-file-for-salary-arbitration

Another minor update, will be interesting to see how much Moreland gets considering the year he had...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-15   6:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: redleghunter (#228)

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2016/01/15/rangers-give-hefty-raise-chirinos

Another small update looks like they're going to give Scheppers another chance to get his act back together. If he can they will conceivably have the best and deepest pen in the majors, contrary to what all the talking heads are claiming...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-16   7:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: CZ82 (#232)

Yes call up Scheppers for Toronto games. This way we have a wild man pitching when the punk boys in the middle of their order flap their gums.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-17   2:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: redleghunter (#233)

You know I got to thinking about a RHed bat for the OF and found out something interesting, Profar has played some OF before... Hmmmmmm... (But this only works if his shoulder is sound)...

Remember that??? LOL...

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2016/01/25/rangers-consider-profar-outfield-needed

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-01-25   19:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: CZ82 (#234)

JD will be out of a job if the owners read your comments. Bet they could save a lot of money hiring you:)

Guess we have to be more active on this thread now that Banny is back to work and needs our advice.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-01-26   1:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#235)

Have either of you seen this yet???

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14691950/new-york-yankees-1b-greg-bird-suffers-shoulder-injury-miss-season

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-02-01   20:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: CZ82, redleghunter (#236)

Have either of you seen this yet???

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14691950/new-york-yankees-1b-greg-bird-suffers-shoulder-injury-miss-season

yes a major blow to the Yank plans . "Bird could return by the end of the 2016 season, but that scenario would be very unlikely."

I would not even advise attempting it . He was not going to start at 1st base this year as long as Tex was healthy .

I doubt if they have anyone adequate in the minors who can fill in long term if Tex goes down. They were probably going to leave Bird in the minors this season until Tex inevidibly goes down. Headly can play 1st ....but he is locked in at 3rd. OF Dustin Ackley can fill in also . The Yanks need to make a move .

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-02   6:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: tomder55, CZ82 (#237)

I doubt if they have anyone adequate in the minors who can fill in long term if Tex goes down. They were probably going to leave Bird in the minors this season until Tex inevidibly goes down. Headly can play 1st ....but he is locked in at 3rd. OF Dustin Ackley can fill in also . The Yanks need to make a move .

Well the Rangers have a solution. I think Elvis Andrus can play 1B if needed. Pick up his horrible contract and you have a deal! :)

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-02   9:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: redleghunter, CZ82 (#238)

Well the Rangers have a solution. I think Elvis Andrus can play 1B if needed. Pick up his horrible contract and you have a deal! :)

of course !! because the Yanks need another lousy contract on their payroll !!!

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-02   9:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#240. To: redleghunter (#238)

Well the Rangers have a solution. I think Elvis Andrus can play 1B if needed.

It would be nice if he played "left out"...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-02-02   17:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#239)

of course !! because the Yanks need another lousy contract on their payroll !!!

You know if they approached Ilitch he might go for taking on his contract, he's spending money left and right to try and win a WS before he kicks the bucket...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2016-02-02   18:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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