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Title: Fiorina: Let’s Have A Muslim President
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/posts/fiorina-lets-have-a-muslim-president
Published: Sep 23, 2015
Author: A.W. Morgan
Post Date: 2015-09-23 11:17:42 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 2075
Comments: 25

Carly Fiorina has supplied yet another reason she should not get anywhere near the White House. Forget about her supporting the DREAM Act, although that’s bad enough.

She thinks a Muslim should be president. Responding to Ben Carson’s belief that Muslim should not be president, Fiorina explained where Carson erred to Jimmy Fallon:

Jimmy Fallon: Ben Carson is in a lot of trouble now because he is saying that he would not advocate a Muslim being president.

Carly Fiorina: Well, I think that’s wrong. It says in our Constitution that religion cannot be a test for office. It’s also true that this country was founded on the principle that we judge each individual and that anyone of any faith is welcome here. I actually believe that people of faith make better leaders. Where they are Christians, as I am, my faith has sustained me through some very bad times. I’ve battled cancer, I’ve lost a child, I’ve been tested. But, whether it’s a person of Christian faith, or Jewish faith, or Muslim faith, or other faiths, I think faith gives us humility and empathy and optimism and I think those are important.

Fallon: So you would be fine with that?

Fiorina: Yes, I would be fine with that.

Here, Fiorina not only betrays a stupendous ignorance of Islam and Muslims, but also tells a big fib: i.e., “This country was founded on the principle that we judge each individual and that anyone of any faith is welcome here”

Not according to John Jay, one of the Founding Fathers. “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers,” he wrote in a letter.

As for who should come into the country, Jay wrote thusly in Federalist No. 2: “Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people — a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs.”

The idea that the founders, including Adams and Jefferson, thought anyone could be an American is flatly ridiculous.

Keep in mind that in the late 18th-century, the mass migration of two bazillion Muslims or Mexicans was not possible.

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Here, Fiorina not only betrays a stupendous ignorance of Islam and Muslims, but also tells a big fib: i.e., “This country was founded on the principle that we judge each individual and that anyone of any faith is welcome here”

She's right. We also live under the principle that anyone who isn't of any religious faith is also welcome here,and the equal of any other citizen.

BTW,there were Muslim citizens living here in the 1700's. Granted,they were "quiet as a mouse Muslims" and not the radical fundies we have today,but they were still Muslims.

The FACTS are that a radical outspoken fundie Muslim can NOT be elected to public office in this country and legally sworn in because his faith is contrary to every article of the Bill of Rights.

Not according to John Jay, one of the Founding Fathers. “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers,” he wrote in a letter.

"Dear Dairy" writings don't count. Some of the Founding Fathers were loons,and the crap they proposed was ignored and not codified into law. If the others had agreed with him we would not have separation of church and state codified into law.

I guess a stealth Muslim could be elected in non-black districts,but he or she would face some hard questions,and it would hard for them to hide their true beliefs or their personal histories.

As for who should come into the country, Jay wrote thusly in Federalist No. 2: “Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people — a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs.”

That was an absolute crock of Bush even back then. People from all over the world were coming here long before the Constitution was ratified,and in some areas of the country everybody spoke German,in others they spoke French,in some one of the Scandinavian languages,etc,etc,etc.

And that's not even getting into the Welsh,Gaelic and Scots languages spoken in clusters in the "English-speaking" parts.

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