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Title: Endgame? SurveyUSA poll finds Trump beating Clinton, all other Dems
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/ ... eating-clinton-all-other-dems/
Published: Sep 5, 2015
Author: Jazz Shaw
Post Date: 2015-09-05 09:13:06 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 5288
Comments: 47

So there you were, enjoying a perfectly lovely Friday heading into the Memorial Day weekend, safe and secure in the knowledge that all the things you needed to know about the 2016 presidential race were, for the moment, known. And then this happened.
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton head-to-head, according to a new poll released Friday.

The poll by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent.

In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent.

The other interesting question that the phone survey (taken in the first few days of September) explored was the predictions of who would win the GOP nomination. Previously, even among Trump supporters, the largest number of people liked Trump but they didn’t think he was going to be the nominee. Now even that metric has flipped and 30% believe he will be carrying the GOP standard into the general election, while 20% still think it’s going to be Bush. (That would be the “follow the money” crowd I suppose.)

One of the first objections which will be raised by both Democrats and Trump’s critics on the Republican side is that “it’s SurveyUSA.” We seem to hit at least one of these stories every election cycle, but the complaints don’t tend to hold a lot of water. Going all the way back to the 2010 midterms there were similar complaints lodged by people who didn’t care for their results, but even then Nate Silver was giving them positive marks compared to established names such as Rasmussen.
On Tuesday, polls conducted by the firm Rasmussen Reports — which released more than 100 surveys in the final three weeks of the campaign, including some commissioned under a subsidiary on behalf of Fox News — badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates.

Other polling firms, like SurveyUSA and Quinnipiac University, produced more reliable results in Senate and gubernatorial races. A firm that conducts surveys by Internet, YouGov, also performed relatively well.

Still, this is just one poll and we’ll have to see a few more lining up in the same direction before we can declare a supportable shift in the tides. But the numbers seem to be following a pattern which has become ingrained in this season’s ongoing drama. So, assuming this data starts locking in for a while, what explains it? Had they only run Trump against Hillary there would be an easy out: Clinton’s numbers have been in free fall across the board for a while now and she’s currently so far underwater on her favorability and trust statistics that Trey Gowdy’s next investigation may include charges of her stealing artifacts from the wreck of the Titanic. In that light it would be simple enough to just say that everyone hates Hillary so they just hate The Donald a little less.

But how then would we explain how he’s beating Bernie Sanders and even lovable Uncle Joe Biden? Something is happening here and it’s either going to turn out to be SurveyUSA hitting a serious glitch in their process or… can we say it out loud? The other choice is that everybody who does this for a living got this wrong. Trump is still breaking all the rules on a daily basis, but it’s becoming a very real possibility that the people out there getting ready to vote in the primary and the general election as well don’t really give a hoot about our rules.

We have all lived to see interesting times.

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

Still, this is just one poll ...

I don't care if there are a million polls. The election is over a year a way. Even then the "popular" vote means nothing.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-05   9:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1) (Edited)

Oh, go cry over the libtard socialist losing in the polls somewhere else... you aren't gonna find libtard posting support here, unless apole, Fred and hondo make multiple accounts.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-05   9:29:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#0)

It's been obvious all along.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-05   10:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GrandIsland (#2)

Why do you trust in the voting system? The place is a dump and you trust any politician voted by the People to run the place?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-05   10:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative (#3)

It's been obvious all along.

Thats my thought too. MSM has just lied out there back side for ever.

You have to no more than look at the unemployment rate to see where the MSM's heart lies[;)]. Nearly as many adults not working as working but we have 5% unemployment rate.

Justified  posted on  2015-09-05   12:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)

Biden is only down by 2 percentage points against Trump. This poll is meaningless because they didn't include the eventual GOP nominee, Jeb!/Rubio. Some real Republican POS Bushbots like that, will make Hillary's popularity skyrocket. Yes they can lose again, with the right (wrong) candidates!

Joe Biden -2
Al Gore -3
Bernie Sanders -4
Hillary Clinton -5

Trump is just a spoiler to get Jeb!/Rubio nominated, so that they can lose by a landslide to Hillary.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-09-05   12:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#6)

Jeb!/Rubio

Now thats a ticket! Let's have illegals all over the place.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-05   13:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#6)

The ticket will be Trump/Rubio. And they will beat Biden/Warren.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-05   13:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#7)

Now thats a ticket! Let's have illegals all over the place.

Commie Sanders is gonna give you exactly that. That pile of shit wants to bring 10 million MORE in. Your pals Pete, Hondo and Fred all love Commie Sanders.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-05   13:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#9)

For over twenty years, GI, you had all kinds of free koffee&doughnuts&eklairs; all kourtesy of your illegal aliens; yup, as a soldier for the state and under the colour of law, you would evoke your presence at the local doughnut shop and relax for a few hours before hitting your beat. Yeah you demanded free stuff all the tyme from the illegals and got your way.

And you want to blame me? TSK, Tsk, tsk ...

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-05   13:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13, *2016 The Likely Suspects* (#8) (Edited)

The ticket will be Trump/Rubio. And they will beat Biden/Warren.

The GOP ticket will be Rubio/Fiorina, a pair of losers. The Global Elites want 1) "Minority", 2) "Woman". It's "Trendy", and Boehner and McConnell are desperate to appear "Cool". Mission Impossible!

Jeb! will fall on his sword, and hand-off to Marco Rubio. Biden will stay out to avoid being called a sexist pig by Ms Clinton.

The end result... 4 years of George W. Bush in drag (Hillary/Jorge Ramos).


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-09-05   13:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#10)

Each and every time my paths crossed with an illegal alien, from any country, I arrested the pile of smelly 3rd world shit and I turned them over to the proper federal agencies. Literally hundreds of them.

How many illegals have you ever rounded up?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-05   13:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GrandIsland (#12)

Each and every time my paths crossed with an illegal alien, from any country, I arrested the pile of smelly 3rd world shit and I turned them over to the proper federal agencies. Literally hundreds of them.

Why didn't you include your doughnut makers? Did they pay you on the side besides delivering free doughnuts&Koffee?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-05   13:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: hondo68, TooConservative (#11)

Trump is just a spoiler to get Jeb!/Rubio nominated, so that they can lose by a landslide to Hillary.

Jeb! will fall on his sword, and hand-off to Marco Rubio.

Jeb is losing donors fast so the GOPe are looking at getting Mitt to run again...

I think anybody that would abandon Jeb aren't going to go over to Mitt the Twit, they're 2 peas in a pod...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-05   14:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#14)

I think anybody that would abandon Jeb aren't going to go over to Mitt the Twit, they're 2 peas in a pod...

I've seen pundits saying that Biden won't run against Xlinton for the same reason. Just splitting the same vote more ways. And Mitt has been libbing it up for the media the last few years so he would have to explain how his fire-breathing conservative policy of 2012 has changed since he lost to Obama.

I would say that Biden would have fewer problems running than Romney would.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-05   15:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#15)

I would imagine you remember what happened in the 3 debates with Obama, that's why Mitt lost...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-05   15:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#15)

I would say that Biden would have fewer problems running than Romney would.

I'm pretty sure Joe doesn't want to run against Hitlery, he's too old and wants some time to enjoy all of that taxpayer money he's stolen before he croaks...

He also knows (unless he's a fool) that he doesn't stand a chance of becoming POTUS because of the mood the voters are in, so why waste his time and money...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-05   15:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: CZ82, TooConservative (#14) (Edited)

Jeb is losing donors fast so the GOPe are looking at getting Mitt to run again...

Al Gore is polling better than Hillary. A Mitt Romney vs Al Gore debate?

Do they make those magic Mormon underwear in asbestos?


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-09-05   15:49:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CZ82, Vicomte13 (#17)

I'm pretty sure Joe doesn't want to run against Hitlery, he's too old and wants some time to enjoy all of that taxpayer money he's stolen before he croaks...

Biden is one of the few in the Senate who stayed for decades and never became a multimillionaire. Meaning he didn't go for the insider trading deals that the Senate and top House members took advantage of. Legal insider trading, and everyone knew they were doing it.

I object to Biden on many grounds, not least because he's a doofus. But he has never been greedy. As I recall, his net worth when he became VP was only a few hundred thousand. Since then, with his (fairly new) wife, he did buy a $2M mini-mansion in Delaware.

Joe was never about the money. Unlike Fauxcahontas who wants to get rich herself while going after fatcats she doesn't like.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-05   15:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: hondo68 (#18)

Al Gore is polling better than Hillary.

If he is, it is only very recent.

And the idea of Gore running is probably far more attractive than Gore actually running for office, subjecting the press and the public once more the the full Al Gore Experience.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-05   15:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#18)

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-05   17:10:54 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: hondo68 (#6)

Yes they can lose again, with the right (wrong) candidates!

But they won't. It is the alleged Republicans turn to win.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-05   17:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TooConservative (#19)

That is kinda surprising to say the least.

Would also be surprised if he doesn't have any Swiss or offshore accounts...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-05   17:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: GrandIsland (#9)

Your pals Pete, Hondo and Fred all love Commie Sanders.

I know you were a cop and have mental limits,but I have never once said I loved Bernie Saunders.

I just said he was more conservative than any of the alleged Republican candidates at that time,and that I would vote for him before I would vote for JEB.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-05   17:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: CZ82 (#14)

Jeb is losing donors fast so the GOPe are looking at getting Mitt to run again...

Hilarious,ain't it?

It's like they can't even be bothered to pretend they are conservative or represent the voters anymore.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-05   17:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#25)

It's like they can't even be bothered to pretend they are conservative or represent the voters anymore.

People like us who pay attention see what is going on, the average low information voter doesn't see all the contortions going on right now...

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-09-05   17:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: hondo68 (#6)

The President and Vice President can't be from the same state.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   0:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#24)

I know you were a cop and have mental limits,but I have never once said I loved Bernie Saunders.

I just said he was more conservative than any of the alleged Republican candidates at that time,and that I would vote for him before I would vote for JEB.

Here is teh truth. You are correct you ddint' say you loved Sanders.

You said Sanders is more conservative then anyone running. He isn't more conservative then any of them.

Also you didn't mention Jeb. You just said you were goig to vote for Sanders.

You may have changed that . But that is what you originally said.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-09-06   0:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#28)

You said Sanders is more conservative then anyone running. He isn't more conservative then any of them.

He was at that time. He was the only one talking about saving American jobs and bring back American manufacturing.

Also you didn't mention Jeb.

Yeah,I did.

You just said you were goig to vote for Sanders.

No,once again,I said I would vote for Saunders before I would vote for JEB. I may have added "any of the others" just to piss you off because you were acting like a aashole.

I tell you what,name an actual conservate Republican candidate that is running for president righ tnow.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   2:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#29)

name an actual conservate Republican candidate that is running for president righ tnow.

Republicans do not represent "conservative principles" if that is what you mean. They havn't for decades.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-06   7:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo (#30)

Republicans do not represent "conservative principles" if that is what you mean. They havn't for decades.

That is exactly what I mean.

And they won't in the future as long as people keep buying into the "vote for the lesser evil" scam the One Ruling Party keeps running.

We all in effect a One Party Nation and it does not represent America or Americans.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   8:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#31)

We all in effect a One Party Nation and it does not represent America or Americans.

Name five or more major government activitites that support your opinion.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-06   8:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#32)

Name five or more major government activitites that support your opinion.

The alleged Justice Department,the US Congress,the Supreme Court,the US Senate,the DNC,the RNC,the US State Department,the EPA,The DNC,the RNC,etc,etc,etc.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   8:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#33) (Edited)

Pete - Name activities, not departments or groups. Show objective evidence. As an example, the US goververnment spends billions of dollars policing the world while at the same tyme allowing millions of illegal aliens to swarm our soverign borders.

Highlight stuff like that if you have tyme.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-06   8:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#31)

Over your last 7 geriatric years, you must have been napping a lot. It's fair to assume you've been asleep if you feel O'bunghole is or was the "lessor of two evils". After all the damage he's done... he's the devil himself compared to ANY republican candidate.

Your little stupid slogan is now obsolete. You slept through the riots, LE killings, military fags, military transtesticles, cousin IT bathrooms, executive order after executive order... this mother fucker is on a tear... and he ain't done yet. Fuck you, and your queer slogan.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-06   8:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GrandIsland (#35)

Your Republicans love hanging on the coattails of 0bama; he gives them their next talking points.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-06   9:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeroo (#34)

Pete - Name activities, not departments or groups.

Are you kidding? If I ever got started on that I wouldn't have time for anything else.

Besides,every agency I mentioned provides their own examples on a daily basis,so anyone who hasn't noticed it already is too dense to see it if you pointed them at it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   10:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#35) (Edited)

It's fair to assume you've been asleep if you feel O'bunghole is or was the "lessor of two evils".

Arguing that he is worse than Romney,or Romney would have been worse than Obomber is a lot like arguing over which is more humane,being boiled to death in a pot of boiling oil,or burned at the stake.

Neither one of them should be trusted to run a convenience store,never mind America.

You slept through the riots, LE killings, military fags, military transtesticles, cousin IT bathrooms, executive order after executive order.

Obomber didn't originate any of that stuff,and since every Republican candidate since that evil basrard Poppy Bush took office has spend most of their time trying to "out Dim the Dims" so "we can get the black,transexual,cross-dressing,Eskimo,union-member/school teacher/NAACP/LaRaza,stockholder votes",chances are he would have been even worse.

The RNC needs to follow federal truth in advertising laws and start promoting themselves as "The Party of Pander."

THAT is what is driving Trump's popularity with the voters,NOT Trump himself. People on the conservative side of politics are tired of PC candidates and want somebody that speaks directly and in plain language.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   10:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo (#36)

Your Republicans love hanging on the coattails of 0bama; he gives them their next talking points.

There is nothing American politics since Reagan left office remind me of more than Pro-Wrasslin'.

Hulk Hogan would probably be the ideal candidate today because he knows all the moves and knows how to play the crowds.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-06   10:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#38)

Obomber didn't originate any of that stuff,and since every Republican candidate since that evil basrard Poppy Bush took office

Only registered (D) dipshits buy the "its Bush's fault, 7 years later. Give it a libtard rest.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-06   13:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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