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Title: Trump Praises His Sister, a Pro-Abortion Extremist Judge
Source: National Review
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corne ... extremist-judge-ramesh-ponnuru
Published: Aug 27, 2015
Author: Ramesh Ponnuru
Post Date: 2015-09-04 07:44:28 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 2794
Comments: 23

Donald Trump told Mark Halperin yesterday that his sister, a federal judge, would be a “phenomenal” Supreme Court justice. He also said that “we will have to rule that out now, at least.”

If he ever becomes president, let’s hope he rules it out permanently. Maryanne Trump Barry came up in my book The Party of Death for writing one of those heated judicial decisions in favor of giving constitutional protection to partial-birth abortion. She called a New Jersey law against it a “desperate attempt” to undermine Roe v. Wade. It was, she wrote, “based on semantic machinations, irrational line-drawing, and an obvious attempt to inflame public opinion instead of logic or medical evidence.” It made no difference where the fetus was when it “expired.”

So: The right of abortionists to make a child “expire” by partially extracting her from the womb, sticking scissors in the back of her head, vacuuming out her brain, and crushing her skull to complete her extraction, is right there in the Constitution. But let’s please not have any “semantic machinations.”

Laws against partial-birth abortion had strong bipartisan support. They were attempts to mark an outer limit to the abortion right of Roe. If unborn children could not be protected within the womb, could they at least be protected when partway out? That would be illogical, said Judge Barry. But if the location of fetal death does not matter, then it could hardly matter if the child was all the way outside the womb. Laws against infanticide, too, must be dismissed as irrational line-drawing. The intellectual architect of the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, Hadley Arkes, mentions Judge Barry’s decision in his book on the origin of that law, explaining that it was in part designed to head off the dangerous implications of such rulings.

The Supreme Court eventually ruled that partial-birth abortion could be outlawed—but it did so by a margin of one.

It’s understandable that Trump would praise his sister. But when candidates praise relatives who have served in public office—whether they’re members of the Bush, Paul, Clinton, or Trump families—voters are entitled to keep those relatives’ records in mind.

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#11. To: TooConservative, mister white, redleghunter (#0)

She called a New Jersey law against it a “desperate attempt” to undermine Roe v. Wade. It was, she wrote, “based on semantic machinations, irrational line-drawing, and an obvious attempt to inflame public opinion instead of logic or medical evidence.” It made no difference where the fetus was when it “expired.”

Have you seen the latest trend that is gaining traction in the medical " intellectual class " ? A few years ago , a couple of medical 'ethicists " proposed that since babies aren't really fully developed after birth ,that it is moral and ethical to do "after-birth " abortions . (I guess we shouldn't call that "infanticide " either .)

Publishing in the Journal of Medical Ethics ;"two philosophers", Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva argues that If criteria such as the costs (social, psychological, economic) for the potential parents are good enough reasons for having an abortion even when the fetus is healthy, if the moral status of the newborn is the same as that of the infant and if neither has any moral value by virtue of being a potential person, then the same reasons which justify abortion should also justify the killing of the potential person when it is at the stage of a newborn.

jme.bmj.com/content/early...dethics-2011-100411.full#

They don't give a time frame when that baby is actually a person . Maybe it's a day or 2 . Maybe they are thinking more in line with Herod ,using a 2 year window. Does it matter ? The same arguments for offing a fetus can be applied to a baby evidently . Why wouldn't it then be a standard applied to the infirmed or the elderly ? It's all the same moral base ..... someone else deciding someone else's worth as a human ,and having the power to terminate that person.

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#12. To: tomder55 (#11)

Good points all. I have no doubt Supreme Court Justice Trump would consider it all very seriously. To do otherwise might "undermine Roe v. Wade" and we can't have that.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-05   7:23:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#12)

"To do otherwise might "undermine Roe v. Wade" and we can't have that."

Seems to me the best way to get rid of Roe v Wade is to expose the horrors of abortion, including partial birth and the harvesting of fetal organs, not sanitize it to an acceptable level.

You call yourself pro-life when the only time you go apeshit is partial birth abortion? Nice message ... "Abortion is one thing, but this partial birth stuff has gotta stop".

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#18. To: misterwhite (#16)

You call yourself pro-life when the only time you go apeshit is partial birth abortion? Nice message ... "Abortion is one thing, but this partial birth stuff has gotta stop".

You're a dumbass.

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