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Title: Could Trump be preparing to name a running mate who makes him look like a safe pair of hands? Rumors swill that Sarah Palin is in the frame - despite 2008 disaster
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... ame-despite-2008-disaster.html
Published: Aug 29, 2015
Author: Khaleda Rahman For Mailonline
Post Date: 2015-08-29 09:17:40 by cranky
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Views: 17837
Comments: 176

  • Gaffe-prone former Alaska governor has heaped praise on Trump recently
  • In interview, she has fawned over Trump, praising him for his 'strength'
  • And The Donald has said he would love 'special' Palin as his running mate

Sarah Palin could be joining Donald Trump’s presidential ticket in a dream celebrity pairing for the Republican Party.

The gaffe-prone former Alaska governor has heaped praise on Trump in recent interviews, adding that he is doing a great job of ‘shaking it up the way it should be’.

Now, it appears Palin, 51, could be entering another presidential race, returning to the same role she had in 2008 alongside John McCain – but this time as Trump’s running mate.

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Sarah Palin was asking Trump how he deals with media bias when she congratulated him for 'schooling' anchor Jorge Ramos, branding him a 'dangerous activist' for shouting questions at Trump

Sarah Palin was asking Trump how he deals with media bias when she congratulated him for 'schooling' anchor Jorge Ramos, branding him a 'dangerous activist' for shouting questions at Trump

Speaking to Extra TV, Palin said: ‘He is just getting crucified out there just for telling the truth. He’s doing a good job of that.’

She added: ‘He’s leading other candidates and having to talk about the issues that average Joe Six-Pack American wants to hear and wants to talk about.’

The Donald sparked rumors last month by saying he would ‘love’ to have Palin as a running mate.

‘She really is somebody who knows what's happening and she's a special person.’

And Palin fueled speculation further by deflecting questions on whether she would like to join the Trump ticket.

Trump also spoke about a tax crackdown on hedge fund managers and pledged to simplify the tax code for the middle class, who he said are being 'treated horribly'

Trump also spoke about a tax crackdown on hedge fund managers and pledged to simplify the tax code for the middle class, who he said are being 'treated horribly'

‘Well, there are so many good potential female running mates out there, and male running mates,’ she said.

Republican Party strategist Rick Wilson described the Trump and Palin's pairing as a 'singularity of celebrity politics'.

'Donald Trump is not a rational political actor and so the things you might expect of a rational political actor are not the sort of thing you should expect of Donald Trump, he told The Telegraph.

'So the truth is that any damn thing is possible with that man.'

Palin also leapt to Trump’s defence recently, when she hit out at Univision anchor Jorge Ramos during an interview, branding him a 'dangerous activist'.

Speaking about Ramos being ejected from a press conference for shouting questions about immigration, Palin told Trump: 'You sure schooled that radical activist. He's not doing that again.'

Palin made her remarks while asking Trump about the unfair treatment she claimed conservatives receive from the media, asking him whether he felt he was treated badly over the incident.

Trump reminded Palin that he is currently suing Univision for $500million after cancelling his Miss Teen USA pageant following his remarks on Mexicans when he launched his campaign.

He added: 'The press was actually quite good to me on that one, he was screaming and ranting and raving. I actually didn't know who he was at first.

'I would gladly have answered his question but he spoke out of turn. He was hurting the rest because the room was packed and they were waiting for questions.'

During another bizarre exchange, Palin asked Trump how he became 'strong' enough to deal with harsh questions - including when he was asked about his favorite Bible passage.

He replied: 'I love the Bible, I'm a Presbyterian. They were hitting me with questions one after another and then they said “what's your favorite verse?”

Among the other topics up for discussion were the Bible, which Trump said he loves more than his own book, and veterans, who Trump again pledged to protect

Among the other topics up for discussion were the Bible, which Trump said he loves more than his own book, and veterans, who Trump again pledged to protect

'That's a very personal thing, I don't like giving that out to people I hardly know. There are certain things that you and myself and a lot of other people like to keep personal.

'But I love the Bible. Somebody once held up The Art Of The Deal and I said "that's my second favorite book".'

The former running-mate to John McCain was quizzing GOP frontrunner Trump as part of a segment on One America News this evening.

As well as reiterating his pledges to properly support American veterans, Trump also spoke about plans to decrease taxes for the middle class.

The business mogul, who has previously boasted of his wealth, said that he would back a crackdown on hedge fund managers, who he says make huge profits 'but are hardly paying any tax'.

He added: 'We have a complex tax code that nobody understands. People have to spend tremendous amounts of money for accountants and lawyers.

'I'm in favour of simplifying the code and getting rid of reductions. You have to simplify the code.

'We have to help the middle class, the country was built on the middle class. They have so much to do with what we have now and they are being treated horribly.'

THE QUEEN OF BLUNDERS: SARAH PALIN'S BIGGEST GAFFES

Sarah Palin's (pictured with former running mate John McCain) campaign in 2008 was filled with gaffes

Sarah Palin's (pictured with former running mate John McCain) campaign in 2008 was filled with gaffes

Sarah Palin's vice-presidential campaign in 2008 was riddled with highly embarrassing blunders - mainly for her running mate John McCain.

She notoriously failed to name a single newspaper or magazine that she reads in an interview ith Katie Couric.

Palin said: 'I’ve read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.'

But when Couric pressed for specific publications, Palin flubbed: 'Um, all of 'em, any of 'em that, um, have, have been in front of me over all these years.'

In another notable faux pas, she floundered through questions on the price of oil and the economy in Thanksgiving interview - in front of a man chopping off turkey heads.

Geography is definitely not Palin's strong suit.

In October 2008, she told supporters at a fundraising event in San Francisco: 'They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan.'

Palin waded into the controversy over a mosque planned near Ground Zero in New York in 2010.

She took to Twitter to say: 'Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesn't it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate.'

The tweet was later deleted, likely when she realized 'refudiate' is not a word.

In a radio interview in November 2010, Sarah Palin was asked how the United States should respond to the escalating tension between North and South Korea.

She replied: 'Obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies.'

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#137. To: Liberator (#134)

Moreover, just what does the acceptance of government money have to do with adherence to the Gospel?

A most excellent question. As if the institutions of the governance of man has to do with the Sermon on the Mount. Now if government leaders wished to employ their duties within the Sermon on the Mount, there would be less government corruption and more money for Paula to go after in the private sector.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   15:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: rlk, liberator (#135)

According to the mentality of impressionable superstitious fools.

Don't know what got your Kimono in an uproar.

But I will make sure you stick your Samurai sword in your belly if your table manners are rude. I'm sure you will do the honors without prompting.

Then again, I don't usually comment on genocidal Asian cults.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   15:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Deckard (#132)

As long as churches continue to operate under the 501(c)3 provision, they are merely operating as a branch of the government.

Yup.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   16:07:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Liberator (#133)

.If THAT doesn't "prove" God's existence, then what does?

It proves nothing. Insects do the same thing.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   16:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Liberator (#134)

Moreover, just what does the acceptance of government money have to do with adherence to the Gospel?

If you sell your ass for cash money and power,don't whine when someone calls you a whore.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   16:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: redleghunter (#136) (Edited)

Well God did make hundreds of appearances in the flesh no less.

I must have missed that one.

The eyewitness accounts can be found in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Acts. Even in the book of Revelation.

Company sales brochures don't count as proof of anything,other than there is an organized company behind the product.

To consider evidence means to examine it.

I have examined it,and found it to all be hearsay,not reliable evidence.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   16:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: sneakypete (#142)

I must have missed that one.

Matthew Chapter 5

Company sales brochures don't count as proof of anything,other than there is an organized company behind the product.

Luke Chapter 1

From Dr. Luke, physician, evangelist and historian the following from Luke chapter 1:

Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us, 3 it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, 4 that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.

I have examined it,and found it to all be hearsay,not reliable evidence.

Then Julius Caesar and every historical document is hearsay according to your standards.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   16:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: sneakypete (#140)

It proves nothing. Insects do the same thing.

Ok. So what force of the Universal caused the SAME Creation of Life coded out of microscopic female/male emissions?

YOUR answer: NOTHING.

Nice "logic." Your math equations 0 + 0 = Infinity ought to work well at at the University of Mars.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   17:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: redleghunter (#143) (Edited)

I must have missed that one.

Matthew Chapter 5

Company sales brochures don't count as proof of anything,other than there is an organized company behind the product.

Luke Chapter 1

I am the walrus. koo koo,kachoo!

Lennon/McCarthy 1967.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   18:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Liberator (#144)

Ok. So what force of the Universal caused the SAME Creation of Life coded out of microscopic female/male emissions?

YOUR answer: NOTHING.

No,MY answer is "I don't know."

YOUR answer is "Magic! The Big Spook in the Sky dun did it!"

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   18:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: redleghunter, sneakypete (#143)

I must have missed that one.

Easy to miss sporting a blindfold, earmuffs, while in a medical induced coma. Once coming conscious, he must have attended the same seminar that taught the magic equation, 0 + 0 = Infinity.

Pete: "I have examined it (The eyewitness accounts found in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Acts...and the book of Revelation], and found it to all be hearsay,not reliable evidence."

The most heavily account of testimony, witnesses and documentation in antiquity, but somehow that "evidence" again reinforced the same impossible 0 + 0 = Infinity.

There are more witnesses to the deeds, words, conversations, and life of Jesus Christ than there is to 0buma's life, lol.

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   18:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: sneakypete (#146) (Edited)

No,MY answer is "I don't know."

Still dying on the 0 + 0 = INFINITY + EVERYTHING hill? That's funny.

YOUR answer is "Magic! The Big Spook in the Sky dun did it!"

"The Big Spook in the Sky" managed to create the sky at minimum.

YOUR Exhibit "A", "NOTHING" -- or did IT create the sky?

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   18:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: sneakypete (#145)

I am the walrus. koo koo,kachoo!

Who created The Walrus? NOTHING I suppose?? OR was an "accident" when NOTHING collided with NOTHING and created...a Walrus?

Lol

Liberator  posted on  2015-08-31   18:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Liberator (#147)

The most heavily account of testimony, witnesses and documentation in antiquity, but somehow that "evidence" again reinforced the same impossible 0 + 0 = Infinity.

Give it a rest. You have absolutely NO actual proof that those people actually wrote that,or that they didn't write lies.

Once again you are confusing faith with fact.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   18:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Liberator (#148)

No,MY answer is "I don't know."

Still dying on the 0 + 0 = INFINITY + EVERYTHING hill? That's funny.

Just how freaking stupid are you that you come up with that brain fart after reading "I don't know."

ALL you have is dogma,bubba. If you choose to believe it,go ahead and believe it. People believe all sorts of foolish shit. No skin off my nose.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   18:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Liberator, sneakypete (#147)

There are more witnesses to the deeds, words, conversations, and life of Jesus Christ than there is to 0buma's life, lol.

Yet no one in academia questions Thucydides was the actual author of his works.

Here's some perspective:

Manuscript evidence for superior New Testament reliability

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   18:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Liberator (#149)

Who created The Walrus? NOTHING I suppose?? OR was an "accident" when NOTHING collided with NOTHING and created...a Walrus?

Lol

Desperation is never pretty,and that hollow laugh fools no one. You must be a doubter too,but live in fear of not gaining eternal life if you admit it,so you are getting desperate. Guess what,bubba? When you die,that's it. No more life,no more anything but a dirt nap for eternity. You will be gone,and the world will still be spinning,and not even notice you are missing.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   18:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: redleghunter (#152)

Yet no one in academia questions Thucydides was the actual author of his works.

That can't possibly be true. There are people in academia who question water being wet. Academia is all about publishing possible theories and getting noticed.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   18:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Liberator (#120)

And again, you and your finite mind could not ever hope to understand the Infinite mind.

Especially an Infinite mind which represents the product of primitive hysteria dominant during the time of biblical speculation and still persists today. Blind trust without reproduceable evidence is the mark of an idiot.

rlk  posted on  2015-08-31   18:30:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: sneakypete, liberator, GarySpFc (#150)

Give it a rest. You have absolutely NO actual proof that those people actually wrote that,or that they didn't write lies.

After reading at the below link, your perceived accuracy of 'history' will be rocked. If you hold non-Christian manscript evidence to your 'hearsay' model, then nothing from ancient history is reliable...Nothing.

So, by your statements you are now boxed in to two possibilities. (1) Everything in history is hearsay and ALL historical documents are inadmissable as evidence and/or (2) the manuscript evidence are deliberate frauds as part of a vast 5,000 year ongoing conspiracy.

Manuscript Evidence

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   18:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: rlk (#155)

Blind trust without reproduceable evidence is the mark of an idiot.

I wonder if all those Chinese babies impaled on stakes by the Bushito Japanese warriors trusted them.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   18:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: redleghunter (#156)

If you hold non-Christian manscript evidence to your 'hearsay' model, then nothing from ancient history is reliable...Nothing.

There is damn little that is accurate.

As a former soldier you should understand very well that history is written by the winners.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-08-31   18:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: sneakypete (#158)

As a former soldier you should understand very well that history is written by the winners.

Well that is true.

However, given we have some manuscripts of Caesar's Gallic Wars and his and other general's testimony that they won those wars, we should at least consider that as evidence of their victories.

Of course we don't have anything from the Gallic war chiefs at all. Why? Because they lost. So that does not mean Caesar and his generals created a Gallic wars conspiracy. They won and lived to write about it. Plus they had the apparatus of the empire to rewrite their accounts and pass it down to the following generations. I accept that history because of the manuscript evidence AND the fact that the institutions created by Rome testify to it.

Same goes for the evidence of Scriptures and the church which transcribed the autographs.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   18:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: redleghunter (#157)

I wonder if all those Chinese babies impaled on stakes by the Bushito Japanese warriors trusted them.

Why tell me about it? That wasn't even Bushito.

rlk  posted on  2015-08-31   19:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: rlk (#160)

Distorted Bushito. I can see that from examining the history. However, for some reason you believe a fantasy Christianity.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/japan_no_surrender_01. shtml

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-31   22:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: redleghunter (#161)

Distorted Bushito. I can see that from examining the history. However, for some reason you believe a fantasy Christianity.

Most of Christianity is fantasy. Most societies speculate on the origin of the universe and reality. Christianity believes in one God while the norse believed in 25 Gods. I don't belier that people can be swallowed by whales and live to tell about it. I don't believe the hokum about Adam and Eve and the apple in the Garden. I don't believe the entire Earth was covered five miles deep in water and that it suddenly evaporated. From a study of Jesus I find no evidence that he was divine. He was a Rabinical student rabbi who didn't make it but cultivated attention by preaching some Talmidic verses to a previously unacquainted population. I find no evidence to believe Jesus had any knowledge of economics or any other modern thought.

I have tried to be civil in discourse with you people. In return, you harangue me with gobbledegook that violates every standard of logic and disciplined thought then claim I'm doomed to go to hell if I don't believe it. It's pissing me off. You have lost every argument or confrontation with the counterculture for years and are destroying the country with your outmoded incompetence. We as ass deep in casual abortions, free sex, drugs, immaturity, and infantile self absorbtion while you lamely quote biblical nonsense. You are killing us with your pretense of being the only other alternative.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-01   0:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: redleghunter (#159)

However, given we have some manuscripts of However, given we have some manuscripts of Caesar's Gallic Wars and his and other general's testimony that they won those wars, and his and other general's testimony that they won those wars,

In second year Latin in high school we were required to translate Caesar's Gallic Wars from the original.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-01   0:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: redleghunter (#138)

Don't know what got your Kimono in an uproar.

But I will make sure you stick your Samurai sword in your belly if your table manners are rude. I'm sure you will do the honors without prompting.

As I have said here many times, I believe in a Modernized form of Bushido. Among other things I am dead set against unconditional loyalty to retainers.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-01   0:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: rlk (#162)

Well I realize you don't believe. That's quite clear. But the illogic is truly something came from nothing. Produce some evidence of such. You can't.

It is also not illogical for a Creator to be Master of His own creation. We observe such often with the things we create.

I understand there are a host of man-made garden variety philosophies and religions out there. Most are focused on temporal and temporary self improvement or self gratification. That is where Christianity is different.

The "doomed to hell" message you pick up on is what you really want to hear to reject the actual loving message of God in the Bible. There are more words, chapters and books on God's Grace and Mercy than fiery hell.

The OT and NT record actions and words of God's love, Grace and longsuffering so that no one would perish. Just as a loving parent would never even see a child go down the road to destruction. Even taking back and forgiving an offending child.

However, most are comfortable in our human race to be the lump of clay contending with the Potter.

Your comments are nonsense on the counter culture. The culture of "me" started in the 50s when people started worshipping objects and money while becoming cold to their neighbor and own families. The 60s spawned out of this ever increasing pursuit of self gratification and coldness to neighbor. The counter culture took the next step towards self destruction and delusion. They had no place to go but there because they rejected what this nation was built on...

"Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society."

So you can rage away that somehow Christians caused the decline of our nation. That would be most illogical. The message has been the same for thousands of years and the direction taken by most is to oppose the message because self gratification and self centeredness has always been mankind's downfall.

History is full of examples of nations rising and falling. We had something good here in the US for almost two centuries. Then most slapped it away to pursue their ambitions at any cost to family, neighbor and community.

So goes history... So goes self destructive societies.

Best described: "The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever."

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-01   1:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: rlk (#164)

As I have said here many times, I believe in a Modernized form of Bushido. Among other things I am dead set against unconditional loyalty to retainers.

I guess I grossly misrepresented your modern version of your belief system. A lot of that going on here no?

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-01   1:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: rlk (#163)

In second year Latin in high school we were required to translate Caesar's Gallic Wars from the original.

Original what exactly? You had an autograph of the actual parchment Caesar wrote on. Fascinating. Should be in a museum.

Or did you have a copy of the 10th Century manuscript Catholic monks pieced together from fragments.

If you go to the link I left Pete twice above you will know what I am speaking of.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-01   1:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: redleghunter (#167)

Original what exactly? You had an autograph of the actual parchment Caesar wrote on. Fascinating. Should be in a museum.

Not the original parchment. A copy of the original writing. We had a teacher who thought she was a reincarnation of Calpurnia and was really gung ho. She knew her stuff.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-01   1:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: rlk (#168)

Not the original parchment. A copy of the original writing. We had a teacher who thought she was a reincarnation of Calpurnia and was really gung ho. She knew her stuff.

Ok, understand it was some copy of a later manuscript.

Good drill and what is missing from schools today.

Second year language classes (take your pick Latin, French etc.) in my Catholic HS, there was a policy that no English was to be spoken in class. That means if you did not study and practice on your own, you were quickly behind with instruction. Which means spending more time with Sister Mary Midget after school for additional instruction. That is what I call movtivation:)

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-01   8:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: redleghunter (#165) (Edited)

Produce some evidence of such. You can't.

The burden of proof is not on me. You make as assertion then back it up with circular reasoning. We go round and round the circle based upon your belief.

It makes as much sense as arguing the universe was created by the tooth fairy.

"Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society." For many people that is true because of their limitations and that is why I have been reluctant to criticize religion as they will be left with nothing. There is an alternative way. I am a psychoanalytic(in the broad sense), logical positivist realist, who believes in a modernized form of Bushido. Morality is determined by healthy empathy and integrity.

I have to leave for a while to do pressing errands.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-01   12:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: rlk (#170) (Edited)

"The atrocities of World War II were the result of behavior codes fostered by the military for their own ends, codes such as 'eight sides and corners of the World,' and 'the way of the emperor,' based upon the old code of the warriors (bushido)." Japanese conduct in the Pacific Theater in World War II stemmed from this deeper, unwritten collective code, bushido, making their behavior part of a continuous pattern of martial culture. As an ideal construct, bushido emphasized honesty, filial piety, honor, selflessness, indifference to pain, loyalty, and above all, unquestioning obedience to one's superiors. What if though, the long-standing debate between historians as to whether Japanese conduct in WWII reflected a corruption of the Bushido Code or reflected a continuation of it, has been searching for the answer to this question by using the wrong explanation. What if the true explanation involves the Japanese concept of Just War?

[snip]

According to Inazo Nitobe, "Bushido, then, is the code of moral principles which the knights were required or instructed to observe. It is not a written code; at best, it consists of a few unuttered or unwritten maxims… handed down from mouth to mouth or coming from the pen of some well-known warrior....

Inazo's Christian upbringing isolated him geographically and culturally from mainstream Japan. Inazo, grew up in Hokkaido, which was a particularly westernized, Christian, and segregated part of Japan. Inazo argues that humanity and compassion towards all humans were fundamental to the Code of Bushido but these elements were the ideal and most often not the reality. Realistically, humanity or compassion extended towards an enemy belligerent was judged as a sign of weakness and had the potential to incite an uprising or a rebellion against a victorious army.

http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/wwii/articles/bushido.aspx

Bushido is a warrior code...a Religious CULT based on warrior action AND compassion at best; At worst it is...the brutality witnesses by the Japanese military and government as seen during WWII, during the Bataan Death March, the Rape of Nanking, and its Kamikaze ethic.

Bushido in this sense is a Death Cult.. Much like Islam. In Bushido, the ultimate "honor" is..."honorable" death in battle. Life and living?? Individuality? Redemption? The Kingdom of God? Not so much.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-01   12:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: sneakypete (#153)

Sneakypete: "Just how freaking stupid are you that you come up with that brain fart after reading 'I don't know.'"

sneakypete posted on 2015-08-31 18:21:21 ET

Sneakypete: Guess what,bubba? When you die,that's it. No more life,no more anything but a dirt nap for eternity."

sneakypete posted on 2015-08-31 18:23:45 ET

So which is it?

First you double-down and state twice that you "Don't know" whether there's proof of God...

But then you're as sure as can be about, a "dirt-nap," and, "When you die, that's it."

Sounds like you have a religion/cult, Jethro, but have only yet to name it. Might I suggest "ATHEIST"??

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-01   12:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: rlk, liberator (#170)

It makes as much sense as arguing the universe was created by the tooth fairy.

The next time that nice lady creates a kimono for you compliment her on the work and design. She will thank you.

"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.”"---Isaiah 40:8

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-01   13:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: redleghunter, rlk (#173)

The next time that nice lady creates a kimono for you compliment her on the work and design. She will thank you.

If RLK doesn't actually SEE the lady designing and sewing, does that mean she didn't design and sew it?

(I guess the TOOF Fairy is busier than any of us imagine. She did a HECKUVA job creating the DNA in the whole egg/sperm "accident" that just happened to create...you...me...and RLK. Author: TOOF Fairy?!??)

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-01   14:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Liberator (#172)

So which is it?

First you double-down and state twice that you "Don't know" whether there's proof of God...

No,I said I don't know when asked if God exists. There is no proof one way or the other,and I defy people like you to show me the proof that God exists.

I also wrote that no one,can "prove" a negative,and you wanting me to prove that God doesn't exist shows how shallow your thinking is compared to the depth of your blind faith.

But then you're as sure as can be about, a "dirt-nap," and, "When you die, that's it."

Prove me wrong. Go ahead,trot some out that died,was buried,and came back to life again after a couple of days. YOU are the one making the claim that really happened,so the burden of proof is on YOU,bubba!

Sounds like you have a religion/cult, Jethro, but have only yet to name it. Might I suggest "ATHEIST"??

That's all ya got,ain't it? Religion is based on superstition,fear,and the hope that if you follow the Big Guy's rules you get to live forever. There is no proof of the existence of any God,just blind faith and desperate hope.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-01   14:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Liberator (#171)

Inazo (Nitobe) argues that humanity and compassion towards all humans were fundamental to the Code of Bushido but these elements were the ideal and most often not the reality.

There is a primary rule in human life which you should become aware of. That is, anything that can be corrpted soon will be, particularly by the military mind. The aim of military training is to create unthinking enraged animals who follow orders without question. That's what the Japanese did very effectively in preparation for WWII and called it Bushido. I have a copy of Nitobe which I have read cover to cover as part of my commitment to Asian studies. In my opinion Nitobe tends to varnish over certain aspects of corruption in Bushido. I don't.

The idea of creeping corruption is why Thomas Jefferson said there should be repeated revolutions periodically to expunge it as well as toleration of it and restore integrity and order. The American Constitution is the most perfect legal document ever created. In recent decades there has been steady progress in attempts to weaken it.

In recent threads there has been superficial mention of Marbury versus Madison as if it was the landmark in establishment of Jurisprudence in this country. How many people name-droping the term Marbury versus Madison are aware that it revolved around the attempt by Marbury to get his brother-in-law and other family members installed in judgeships. It was in fact a landmark establishment of creeping corruption.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-01   21:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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