[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Police clash with pro-Palestine protesters on Ohio State University campus Joe Rogan Experience #2138 - Tucker Carlson Police Dispersing Student Protesters at USC - Breaking News Coverage (College Protests) What Passover Means For The New Testament Believer Are We Closer Than Ever To The Next Pandemic? War in Ukraine Turns on Russia what happened during total solar eclipse Israel Attacks Iran, Report Says - LIVE Breaking News Coverage Earth is Scorched with Heat Antiwar Activists Chant ‘Death to America’ at Event Featuring Chicago Alderman Vibe Shift A stream that makes the pleasant Rain sound. Older Men - Keep One Foot In The Dark Ages When You Really Want to Meet the Diversity Requirements CERN to test world's most powerful particle accelerator during April's solar eclipse Utopian Visionaries Who Won’t Leave People Alone No - no - no Ain'T going To get away with iT Pete Buttplug's Butt Plugger Trying to Turn Kids into Faggots Mark Levin: I'm sick and tired of these attacks Questioning the Big Bang James Webb Data Contradicts the Big Bang Pssst! Don't tell the creationists, but scientists don't have a clue how life began A fine romance: how humans and chimps just couldn't let go Early humans had sex with chimps O’Keefe dons bulletproof vest to extract undercover journalist from NGO camp. Biblical Contradictions (Alleged) Catholic Church Praising Lucifer Raising the Knife One Of The HARDEST Videos I Had To Make.. Houthi rebels' attack severely damages a Belize-flagged ship in key strait leading to the Red Sea (British Ship) Chinese Illegal Alien. I'm here for the moneuy Red Tides Plague Gulf Beaches Tucker Carlson calls out Nikki Haley, Ben Shapiro, and every other person calling for war: {Are there 7 Deadly Sins?} I’ve heard people refer to the “7 Deadly Sins,” but I haven’t been able to find that sort of list in Scripture. Abomination of Desolation | THEORY, BIBLE STUDY Bible Help Libertysflame Database Updated Crush EVERYONE with the Alien Gambit! Vladimir Putin tells Tucker Carlson US should stop arming Ukraine to end war Putin hints Moscow and Washington in back-channel talks in revealing Tucker Carlson interview Trump accuses Fulton County DA Fani Willis of lying in court response to Roman's motion Mandatory anti-white racism at Disney. Iceland Volcano Erupts For Third Time In 2 Months, State Of Emergency Declared Tucker Carlson Interview with Vladamir Putin How will Ar Mageddon / WW III End? What on EARTH is going on in Acts 16:11? New Discovery! 2023 Hottest in over 120 Million Years 2024 and beyond in prophecy Questions This Speech Just Broke the Internet Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Watching The Cops See other Watching The Cops Articles Title: Video: Ohio cop indicted on murder charge in shooting Officer has said he was dragged by suspect's car and was forced to shoot Source: Associated Press URL Source: [None] Published: Jul 30, 2015 Author: By Lisa Cornwell Associated Press Post Date: 2015-07-30 10:39:43 by GrandIsland Keywords: None Views: 33612 Comments: 189 CINCINNATI — A University of Cincinnati officer who shot a motorist during a traffic stop over a missing front license plate was indicted Wednesday on a murder charge, with a prosecutor saying the officer "purposely killed him" and "should never have been a police officer." Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters announced the grand jury indictment at a news conference to discuss developments in the investigation into the July 19 shooting of 43-year-old motorist Samuel DuBose by Officer Ray Tensing. Authorities have said Tensing spotted a car driven by DuBose and missing the front license plate, which is required by Ohio law. They say Tensing stopped the car and a struggle ensued after DuBose refused to provide a driver's license and get out of the car. Tensing, 25, has said he was dragged by the car and forced to shoot at DuBose. He fired once, striking DuBose in the head. But Deters dismissed Tensing's claim that he was dragged by the car and suggested that he shouldn't have pulled DuBose over to begin with. "He fell backward after he shot (DuBose) in the head," Deters said, adding that it was a "chicken crap" traffic stop. On footage released from the body-camera video Wednesday, the officer could be heard asking for DuBose's driver's license several times with DuBose at one point saying he had one. Later, DuBose said, "But I don't think I have it on me." Tensing asks DuBose to unbuckle his seat belt. About that time Tensing pulls on the door handle, and DuBose puts his hand on the door to keep it closed. Then the video becomes shaky, but a gunshot can be heard and DuBose appears to be slumped in the seat before the car rolls away, coming to stop at a nearby corner. The University of Cincinnati said it fired Tensing after his indictment. Tensing turned himself in Wednesday afternoon at the Hamilton County Justice Center and was processed on charges of murder and voluntary manslaughter. Tensing's attorney, Stewart Mathews, didn't return phone messages seeking comment after the indictment announcement. Mathews said earlier Wednesday that he thought an indictment was likely "given the political climate" and comments made by city officials. But Mathews said given the evidence he's seen, he doesn't believe there should be an indictment. DuBose's death comes amid months of national scrutiny of police dealings with African-Americans, especially those killed by officers. DuBose was black. Tensing is white. Authorities haven't indicated whether race was a part of the investigation. Body-camera video of the shooting was also released Wednesday. DuBose's family had been pressing for its release, and news organizations including The Associated Press had sued Deters to get it released under Ohio open records law, but Deters released it before any ruling had been made. Deters called the shooting "senseless" and "asinine." "He purposely killed him," Deters said. "He should never have been a police officer." The prosecutor also said he thought it was time to reconsider the UC police department's role. "I don't think a university should be in the policing business," Deters said. A message for comment was left Wednesday with the police department. The university said earlier this week it plans an independent review of its police department's policies. The UC officer made the traffic stop near the university's main campus, and UC police have said the intersection was within the campus police's jurisdiction. The University of Cincinnati on Wednesday closed its main campus in anticipation of grand jury action in the case. Mark O'Mara, attorney for DuBose's family, called for a "peaceful and nonaggressive" response from the community after the officer's indictment. O'Mara said the family wanted a peaceful reaction because "Sam was a peaceful person." Tensing has more than five years of experience in law enforcement and has worked as a University of Cincinnati police officer since April 2014, said Jason Goodrich, UC police chief. His annual performance review this April noted that he was extremely strong in the traffic area and maintains control of his weapons and of "situations he is involved in." Tensing formerly worked as an officer in the small Cincinnati suburban village of Greenhills. Deters said when he saw the video of the shooting, he was shocked. "I feel so sorry for this family and what they lost," Deters said. "And I feel sorry for the community, too." If convicted, Tensing could face up to life in prison. Poster Comment: Deckard is losing his mind. He spends time posting garbage by Free Thought Project, where most of the shit he posts has to be written in such a bias way to give the appearance of police misconduct, AND HERE IS A CLEAR CASE OF A BAD OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING... and Deckard doesn't post it. Well I will. This officer should be wood chipped. Hopefully someone here can post the VIDEO... you'll cringe watching it. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-111) not displayed.       .       .       . #112. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland (#110) That video hurts your case. They take a shot at the prosecutor, that he is talking too much. It seems a long stretch for them to compare his statements to what Mosely did in Baltimore which was egregious prosecutorial misconduct, in the Nifong range. Notice that both attorneys are agreeing that he will be convicted. It is possible, as suggested, that the murder charge is intended to force a guilty plea to the involuntary manslaughter charge. There are a few peculiarities of Ohio criminal law to consider as well. Like it or not, every state has its own criminal statutes with a considerable amount of variety among them. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   11:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #113. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland (#111) To me, it appears to support Officer Tensing's statement AND Officer Lindenschmidt's statement AND Officer Kidd's statement that his left arm was trapped and he was being dragged. Aren't both Lindenschmidt and Kidd suspended from duty right now? I sure wouldn't count on them for alibis for Tensing. More likely, they will face charges (or being fired) too. They may be prosecuted for filing false police reports. Lindenschmidt seems really shaky and confused. An veteran police interrogator would make quick work of his alibi story (and probably already has). Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   11:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #114. To: misterwhite (#110) I doubt much will happen to the two witness officers. It's hard to prove that somebody didn't see something of did see something. All they have to do is say on the stand, " I thought I saw him being dragged... I'm not 100% sure... about 99% sure I saw him dragged". I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   11:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #115. To: TooConservative (#113) "Aren't both Lindenschmidt and Kidd suspended from duty right now?" Where did you read that? Or are you just making it up? "I sure wouldn't count on them for alibis for Tensing." Oops. Too late. "More likely, they will face charges (or being fired) too." You mean if they don't change their statements. Probably. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   11:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #116. To: GrandIsland (#114) "It's hard to prove that somebody didn't see something of did see something." True. But keep in mind, these independent statements were made within three minutes of the shooting -- not after they saw the video, got together and agreed what the story was. In my opinion, it raises reasonable doubt that this was a murder. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   11:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #117. To: misterwhite (#116) (Edited) In my opinion, it raises reasonable doubt that this was a murder. We shall all see. The job of a cop ain't easy... I'm glad I'm retired with a clean file. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   12:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #118. To: TooConservative (#112) "That video hurts your case." I posted the video to dispute your claim that the prosecutor is some kind of calm and deliberate official. "Despite the good will his prosecution of the Tensing case will likely bring, questions of Deters’ professional ethics continue to hound him. In 2000, for example, the Cincinnati Enquirer found that the Ohio Supreme Court has criticized the Hamilton County Prosecutor Office for making improper courtroom statements to secure 14 death penalty cases from 1988 to 2000. These statements — meant to solicit an emotional response from juries or to paint the defense in a poor light — is frown upon during capital offense cases, where facts are meant to be the exclusive determining factor in guilt." "Deters’ ethics were further tested when, in 2004, Matt Borges, a former chief of staff and fundraiser for Deter, plead guilty in a “pay-to-play” scandal. Borges gave 10 brokers that contributed to Deters’ campaign fund preferential treatment in securing state Treasurer’s Office contracts. Borges’ conviction was joined by a guilty plea by Eric Sagun, who also raised money for Deters. Sagun solicited $50,000 from convicted Cleveland-area broker Frank Gruttadauria in 2001 with the understanding the funds will make it to Deters’ campaign fund." "While Deters was not convicted in regards to any of these scandals, they continue to cast a dark shadow against his reputation. One situation in which his ethics are being called into question is the retrial of suspended Hamilton County Juvenile Court Judge Tracie Hunter on the dismissed charge of misusing a county credit card. Many in Cincinnati’s black community allege that Deters has a personal vendetta against Hunter, who was convicted in 2014 on a single count of misusing her authority as a judge to provide documentation to her brother before a disciplinary hearing." (http://heavy.com/news/2015/07/joe-deters-ray-tensing-samuel-dubose-prosecutor- cincinnati-hamilton-county-ohio-police-shooting/) misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #119. To: misterwhite (#115) Where did you read that? Or are you just making it up? Dumbkopf. It's at the end of the video you posted (Megan Kelly at 09:17). Don't you even watch the vids you post to try to prove your point? Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   12:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #120. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#118) An earlier 2014 traffic stop by Tensing: A video posted in May 2014 shows University of Cincinnati police officer Ray Tensing involved in a contentious traffic stop a year before he shot Sam Dubose. New video reveals moment campus cop accused of killing unarmed Samuel DuBose was involved in ANOTHER heated and aggressive traffic stop in 2014 Ray Tensing, 25, was filmed pulling over two men in May last year Asks to see passenger's ID, who refuses, sparking argument Tensing refuses to answer questions and is called 'incompetent' in stop After supervisor intervenes, the two men are allowed to go Tensing shot and killed unarmed driver Samuel DuBose this week in Cincinnati, Ohio - and is now facing murder charges This is the moment Cincinnati campus cop Ray Tensing was caught up in a heated traffic stop a year before he allegedly murdered a driver he had pulled over. Tensing, 25, is seen arguing with two men in a he car pulled over last May. They accuse him of harassing them, breaching their rights and being generally 'incompetent'. The officer, who worked for the University of Cincinnati campus force, argues with the men over IDs and whether he has the right to detain them, before a supervisor intervenes and lets the men go. Footage of the stoppage, taken by passenger Demetrius Pace, gives an insight into the policing style of Tensing, who rose to notoriety this week after shooting unarmed Samuel DuBose in the head during another traffic stop. Tensing has since been indicted for murder over the stop, which shows him speaking with DuBose, 43, after pulling him over about a license plate. Not long into the encounter, the two argue over a driver's license, which DuBose says he does not have with him. He later gets agitated and turns the ignition key in his car. After a struggle over the vehicle's door, Tensing draws his weapon, reaches in and shoots DuBose once in the head, killing him. The campus police department fired him as soon as the charges were filed, prompting Tensing to immediately demand his job back. The older footage, which Pace uploaded to YouTube, shows Tensing stopping him and his friend Sexton Henley over a dragging bumper plate. It devolves into bickering after Tensing asks Pace to identify himself, and he refuses. Under Ohio law, people only have to identify themselves to police if the officer suspects them of a criminal offense or thinks they witnesses a felony - neither of which apply in a traffic stop. During the exchange, Pace tells Tensing: 'I’m just trying to go to the ATM to get some money out and y’all just pulled me over for some bulls**t.' When asked to explain himself, Tensing does not answer the pair, who instead ask him to call his supervisor. He also doesn't tell them his name when asked, and will only say the pair are 'being detained'. At one point in the video, Henley tells Tensing: 'Don’t hold me against my own will for nothing!' After his supervisor arrives, Tensing stops speaking. The stop ends after the senior officer says that their vehicle doesn't match any recently-recorded accidents, and lets the pair go. Pace later told local news station WCPO: 'I felt like through the whole encounter, I shouldn't have even been questioned. He should have dealt specifically with the driver'. Tensing has pleaded not guilty to the murder charge and another of voluntary manslaughter for this week's killing. He paid a $100,000 bond and was allowed out of jail on Thursday. Two other officers who came to the scene of the shooting were interviewed but not indicted over the killing. The Hamilton County coroner's office on Friday released preliminary autopsy findings for DuBose, which found that he died from a single gunshot wound to his left temple. No bullet was recovered. Tensing clearly had no understanding of basic Ohio traffic procedure in this 2014 video. It seems Sexton and Pace were lucky to escape with their lives for having a dragging bumper plate and Driving While Black. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   12:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #121. To: TooConservative (#120) DuBose had marijuana in the car and about $2,600 cash. Explains why he tried to flee. He was going to jail. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #122. To: TooConservative (#119) She said "paid administrative leave" not "suspended. Dumbkopf. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #123. To: misterwhite (#121) DuBose had marijuana in the car and about $2,600 cash. Explains why he tried to flee. He was going to jail. Not sufficient cause. No judge is going to allow that to be presented to the jury. DuBose was not under suspicion for drugs or DWI when he was stopped. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   12:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #124. To: misterwhite (#122) She said "paid administrative leave" not "suspended. They are suspended. So what if they are still drawing a paycheck? You'll notice that Tensing was fired immediately. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens to his two alibi witnesses. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   12:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #125. To: misterwhite (#87) I posted visual evidence and eyewitness testimony. That's bias? You are not even worth responding to any more. Pinguinite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #126. To: TooConservative (#107) Tensing is going down. It will be a fairly brief trial too. Given the track record of prosecuting police, such as when one doesn't even get a trial after killing someone for an illegal chokehold, anything is possible. I would not bet too much money in favor of a conviction. Pinguinite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #127. To: misterwhite (#121) DuBose had marijuana in the car and about $2,600 cash. Explains why he tried to flee. He was going to jail. That's pretty obvious... he was a shitbird and he was gonna flee... but we can't shoot people for just being fleeing shitbirds. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   12:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #128. To: Pinguinite (#125) "You are not even worth responding to any more." If you choose to ignore the facts, your response is worthless anyways. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #129. To: GrandIsland (#127) "but we can't shoot people for just being fleeing shitbirds." I agree. But if the officer's arm was caught in the car and the driver started to accelerate, was the officer justified in shooting? misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #130. To: TooConservative (#124) They are suspended. So what if they are still drawing a paycheck? Paid suspension is standard and contractual. It has nothing to do with their guilt or innocence. It's kinda like the level of due process we get, criminally. He shouldn't receive punitive damage until AFTER he's found guilty. A constitutional Ideal that the agenda posters hate. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   12:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #131. To: TooConservative (#124) "They are suspended." You do a lot of that. Making up your own definitions for words. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #132. To: GrandIsland (#130) "Paid suspension is standard and contractual." Paid administrative leave. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #133. To: misterwhite (#129) But if the officer's arm was caught in the car and the driver started to accelerate, was the officer justified in shooting? Sure.... "But"... If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle... and that shit only happens in Sneaky Petes family. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   12:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #134. To: misterwhite (#132) "Paid suspension is standard and contractual." Paid administrative leave. Same shit, different day. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   12:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #135. To: TooConservative (#124) I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens to his two alibi witnesses. I would. Any false testimony would need to be pretty blatant. As GI said, it's hard to prove someone lied when they say what they think they saw. I agree with that. Any punishment dealt out to other police over this incident, simply because they were on the scene, strikes me as political, intended to pacify the public and prevent widespread protests. IOW, they are scapegoats, and the ones being thrown under the bus. If I'm right on that, then it could expose political bias on the part of the state doing the prosecution and may compromise the case a little bit against Tensing. Again, statements must be objectively provable lies for any punishment to stand. Pinguinite  posted on  2015-08-02   12:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #136. To: GrandIsland (#130) Paid suspension is standard and contractual. It has nothing to do with their guilt or innocence. It's kinda like the level of due process we get, criminally. He shouldn't receive punitive damage until AFTER he's found guilty. A constitutional Ideal that the agenda posters hate. The shooter was fired immediately. Which means his own superiors have zero backing for him and his actions. And the two witnessing cops are both suspended. Normally, just witnessing a shooting will not result in a cop being suspended from duty. Something is wrong with these two alibi Kampus Kops. Otherwise they wouldn't be suspended from their official duties and taken off the duty roster. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   13:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #137. To: Pinguinite (#135) Again, statements must be objectively provable lies for any punishment to stand. Once the experts get done with reassembling and dejittering the video and play the chest-cam videos from the three officers in sync for a jury, I think their initial statements will be totally discredited. And that is why they are suspended. If it's going to emerge in the court case that they are known to have filed false police reports and/or are utterly unreliable witnesses, they can't be used by any police force to enforce the laws. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   13:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #138. To: GrandIsland (#127) ... but we can't shoot people for just being fleeing shitbirds. Unless there is reasonable suspicion they will do grave harm to others. Like armed bank robbers fleeing. Or a known violent felon trying to flee a lawful arrest warrant. This victim was a shitbird but he should be in jail, not a grave. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   13:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #139. To: TooConservative (#137) "If it's going to emerge in the court case that they are known to have filed false police reports ..." OR if it's going to emerge in the court case that they are terrorists, they'll never get a job. Both are equally likely. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   14:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #140. To: TooConservative (#136) "The shooter was fired immediately. Which means his own superiors have zero backing for him and his actions." He was fired after he was indicted. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   14:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #141. To: misterwhite (#140) It's like you aren't even a worm of a man, it's like a worm made you his bitch. Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-08-02   14:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #142. To: TooConservative (#138) Unless there is reasonable suspicion they will do grave harm to others. Then they aren't "just" fleeing shitbirds. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   14:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #143. To: misterwhite (#139) Both are equally likely. No, they aren't. I know you think you're making an argument but you aren't. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   15:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #144. To: GrandIsland (#142) Then they aren't "just" fleeing shitbirds. I was just affirming that police sometimes make a stop and are justified to shoot a fleeing violent felon. Most people would say it is their duty to arrest them or shoot them. But a Kampus Kop shooting some skeezy guy over a plate violation? No one wants that. I noticed in one of these accounts that they still haven't found the bullet. Interesting, you'd think they would have located it. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   15:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #145. To: TooConservative (#144) (Edited) But a Kampus Kop shooting some skeezy guy over a plate violation? No one wants that. You have to be a little careful, not sure about this states training standards, but campus police in NYS attend the same police academy as any other police officer and must satisfy NYS DCJS standards. State college campus police attend the same academy as NYS Police. Most campus officers are very well trained... in fact, they usually receive more in-service training, once qualified because they have huge budgets and very limited call volumes I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   15:55:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #146. To: GrandIsland (#145) (Edited) State college campus police attend the same academy as NYS Police. What I notice is that in circumstances like the UVa shooter, nothing happens until real police show up. Real police with real detectives and real SWAT teams and real dogs and real armored vehicles, etc. With the Boston bombers (Tsarnaev's), they encountered a Kampus Kop and he only ended up in the body count. Perhaps you can provide an example or two of heroic Kampus Kops if you know of any. I would be surprised if any Kampus Kop organization can ever match the local regular PDs in their areas, even with lower workloads and less serious crime on their beat. As I said, I prefer to see colleges use real police, police that are trained and ready for a full range of law enforcement. And this guy's inservice training couldn't have helped much in that 2014 stop where he was humiliated by the two smart black yout's who knew the law on when and who has to provide ID to an officer during a stop. He didn't look too well-trained in that vid. [I did post it above; Tensing was pretty pathetic.] Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   16:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #147. To: TooConservative (#146) (Edited) What I notice is that in circumstances like the UVa shooter, nothing happens until real police show up. That's because they are well trained in class, with hardly any real patrol experience. Campus police normally rely on city police tactical units, by policy since most large colleges are situated in large urban settings, and response times for an agency assist are fast. Campus police normally don't have the officer numbers to make tactical teams on their own. Plain and simple, campus officers have trained 3 times as much to deal with a nut case but deal with them 95% less than city, state and county police, as just one example. Campus police deal with larcenies of cell phones, drunk students, stalking and domestic issues... and as they get bored with their small jurisdiction and limited types of calls, they venture off campus, tho keeping close, and stop vehicles for excitement. This officer probably never had a high speed pursuit in his career... and gosh damn it, he wasn't gonna that day either. He shot him instead. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2015-08-02   17:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #148. To: TooConservative (#146) "As I said, I prefer to see colleges use real police, police that are trained and ready for a full range of law enforcement." You mean ... like Tensing? He was a real officer with the Greenhills Police Department starting in 2011. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   17:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #149. To: Dead Culture Watch (#141) That's it? You pop up into the thread at post #141 like a Whack-A-Mole and that's all you you have to add to the discussion? You're a pathetic piece of shit. Let your mom have her computer back. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   17:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #150. To: GrandIsland (#147) Campus police deal with larcenies of cell phones, drunk students, stalking and domestic issues... and as they get bored with their small jurisdiction and limited types of calls, they venture off campus, tho keeping close, and stop vehicles for excitement. This officer probably never had a high speed pursuit in his career... and gosh damn it, he wasn't gonna that day either. He shot him instead. lol What, we have to give up even our most precious white privileges?     : ) You actually have described my own perception of this case pretty accurately. This is why real PDs pair up inexperienced cops with veterans. Experience makes a huge difference. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   18:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #151. To: TooConservative (#143) "I know you think you're making an argument but you aren't." Do you have any basis upon which you speculate, "If it's going to emerge in the court case that they are known to have filed false police reports and/or are utterly unreliable witnesses"? Any at all? Any reason to make a statement like this? You have none. Neither, of course, do I. Meaning my statement is just as relevant as yours. misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-02   18:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #152. To: misterwhite (#151) Any at all? Any reason to make a statement like this? Just that he sounds like a dissembling liar who can't get his contradictory alibi straght in his own head. Other than that, no. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-02   18:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . Comments (153 - 189) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register]  Please report web page problems, questions and comments to webmaster@libertysflame.com