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Title: Boy Scouts of America Officially Ends Ban on Gay Leaders
Source: AP
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Published: Jul 28, 2015
Author: former Defense Secretary Robert Gates?
Post Date: 2015-07-28 06:52:04 by rlk
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Views: 3042
Comments: 17

Boy Scout board approves end to blanket ban on gay adults

The Associated Press DAVID CRARY Jul 27th 2015

Boy Scouts of America Officially Ends Ban on Gay Leaders

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Boy Scouts of America on Monday ended its blanket ban on gay adult leaders while allowing church-sponsored Scout units to maintain the exclusion for religious reasons.

The new policy, aimed at easing a controversy that has embroiled the Boy Scouts for years, takes effect immediately. It was approved by the BSA's National Executive Board on a 45-12 vote during a closed-to-the-media teleconference.

"For far too long this issue has divided and distracted us," said the BSA's president, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates. "Now it's time to unite behind our shared belief in the extraordinary power of Scouting to be a force for good."

Boy Scouts Of America Could Remove Ban On Gay Adults

SAN RAFAEL, CA - JULY 27: Boy Scout merit badge patches are displayed in a store at the Marin Council of the Boy Scouts of America on July 27, 2015 in San Rafael, California. The national executive board of the Boy Scouts of America is poised to vote to end a ban on gay adult leaders.

The stage had been set for Monday's action on May 21, when Gates told the Scouts' national meeting that the long-standing ban on participation by openly gay adults was no longer sustainable. He said the ban was likely to be the target of lawsuits that the Scouts likely would lose.

Two weeks ago, the new policy was approved unanimously by the BSA's 17-member National Executive Committee. It would allow local Scout units to select adult leaders without regard to sexual orientation - a stance that several Scout councils have already adopted in defiance of the official national policy.

In 2013, after heated internal debate, the BSA decided to allow openly gay youth as scouts, but not gay adults as leaders. Several denominations that collectively sponsor close to half of all Scout units - including the Roman Catholic church, the Mormon church and the Southern Baptist Convention - have been apprehensive about ending the ban on gay adults.

The BSA's top leaders have pledged to defend the right of any church-sponsored units to continue excluding gays as adult volunteers. But that assurance has not satisfied some conservative church leaders,'

"It's hard for me to believe, in the long term, that the Boy Scouts will allow religious groups to have the freedom to choose their own leaders," said the Rev. Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission.

"In recent years I have seen a definite cooling on the part of Baptist churches toward the Scouts," Moore said. "This will probably bring that cooling to a freeze."

Under the BSA's new policy:

-Prospective employees of the national organization could no longer be denied a staff position on the basis of sexual orientation.

-Gay leaders who were previously removed from Scouting because of the ban would have the opportunity to reapply for volunteer positions.

-If otherwise qualified, a gay adult would be eligible to serve as a Scoutmaster or unit leader.

Gates, who became the BSA's president in May 2014, said at the time that he personally would have favored ending the ban on gay adults, but he opposed any further debate after the Scouts' policymaking body upheld the ban. In May, however, he said that recent events "have confronted us with urgent challenges I did not foresee and which we cannot ignore."

He cited an announcement by the BSA's New York City chapter in early April that it had hired Pascal Tessier, the nation's first openly gay Eagle Scout, as a summer camp leader. Gates also cited broader gay-rights developments and warned that rigidly maintaining the ban "will be the end of us as a national movement."

The BSA faced potential lawsuits in New York and other states if it continued to enforce its ban, which had been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000. Since then, the exclusionary policy has prompted numerous major corporations to suspend charitable donations to the Scouts, and has strained relations with some municipalities that cover gays in their non-discrimination codes.

Stuart Upton, a lawyer for the LGBT-rights group Lambda Legal, questioned whether the BSA's new policy to let church-sponsored units continue to exclude gay adults would be sustainable.

"There will be a period of time where they'll have some legal protection," Upton said. "But that doesn't mean the lawsuits won't keep coming. ... They will become increasingly marginalized from the direction society is going."

Like several other major youth organizations, the Boy Scouts have experienced a membership decline in recent decades. Current membership, according to the BSA, is about 2.4 million boys and about 1 million adults.

After the 2013 decision to admit gay youth, some conservatives split from the BSA to form a new group, Trail Life USA, which has created its own ranks, badges and uniforms. The group claims a membership of more than 25,000 youths and adults.

Poster's comment: More than 60 years ago we had a gay male teacher in Jr. High School. After Gym Class we had 10 minutes to shower and dress. That fag teacher would go into the boys dressing room and watch us naked leaving the shower with a ridiculous grin and his slobbering tongue hanging out one side of his mouth. In class, there was one particular boy he was exceptionally fond of. He would pull the kid onto his lap and feel him up affectionately in front of the class with the same slobbering grin he had in the boys dressing room. I learned what gays were after were after at this point in life. It doesn't make any difference what the say, it's what the intend to do that counts. Gays have no more business with boys than strange men have with with access to naked teenage girls.

This country has gone completely nuts!

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#1. To: rlk (#0)

Don't need to be a prophet to say: The BSA will be the obamit scouts o the oligarchy, in two years or less. The new slogan will be, "No Straight Boy Need Apply."

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-28   7:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rlk (#0)

This country has gone completely nuts!

No it hasn't, just the people in charge of things most of them seem to get to those positions by wearing kneepads.

It won't be long and this organization will cease to exist as it was founded. And membership will plummet cause parents will say no and find a different organization, just like what happened with the Girl Scouts.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-28   7:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#0)

What gays want is access to more raw meat to taste and the Boy Scouts are giving it to them thanks to the leadership of Gates.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-28   7:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: rlk (#0)

"It would allow local Scout units to select adult leaders without regard to sexual orientation"

They'll now allow female Boy Scout leaders? Then I want this one!

Don't worry mom and dad. She's over 18.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-28   9:19:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rlk (#0)

This country has gone completely nuts!

Yes, of course. Because as a nation in 1963, we officially rejected God.

John Adams (During a Presidential proclamation of a national day of fasting and prayer, March 6, 1799):

"I pray Heaven to bestow the best of blessings on this house and all that shall hereafter inhabit it. May none but honest and wise men ever rule under this roof."

Can't pray to Heaven any more. Against the secular humanist constitutional law. Ergo, "Heaven" has now denied its blessings and instead cursed America NOT with "honest and wise man," but with slimy liars and narcissistic idiots."

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-28   9:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#4)

They'll now allow female Boy Scout leaders? Then I want this one!

If you look closely that "female Boy scout leader is rocking an adams apple and...er...never mind.

;-)

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-28   9:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BobCeleste (#1)

The new slogan will be, "No Straight Boy Need Apply."

But then who would they recruit??

The new slogan: "Don't worry -- we'll be gentle....muuuuuwaaahaaaa!!"

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-28   9:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rlk (#0)

" This country has gone completely nuts! "

Yes it is, and unfortunately, it is getting worse every day! It is not going to get any better.

Too many liberals / progressives / socialists / communists / fascists - take your pick. All doing their part to pave the road to a NWO.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-28   10:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: rlk (#0)

This should be extra special for those libtard posters here who have a "few faggots in the family".

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-28   11:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BobCeleste, CZ82, RLK, Liberator, misterwhite (#1)

Forget the Boy Scouts - the YMCA Indian Guides are in no way
'gay'. I did a Google search on 'gay YMCA Indian Guides'
and received no results about faggotry.

And when I was in the Indian guides we did conduct a panty raid
on Camp Matollionequay (the girls camp for the Indian Princesses)
accross from from Camp Ockanickon - the boys camp for the Indian Guides.
(Nothing 'untoward' occurred - as far as I know - but there were
adults, placed on the wooden foot bridges over the lake afterwards to
prevent such future incursions and mayem. No Guides and Princesses were
subsequently 'co-located' in the two camps at the same time. Or so I heard.)

But my point is that no 'gayness' occurred in the Indian guides
that I ever heard about. So - it is a possible alternative to the Boy Scouts.

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YMCA camps Ockanickon and Matollionequay - Medford, New Jersey.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-28   11:09:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rlk (#0)

The new brown shirts?

Don  posted on  2015-07-28   11:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator (#5)

This country has gone completely nuts!

Yes, of course. Because as a nation in 1963, we officially rejected God.

With the election of JFK we rejected sanity in favor of finger pointing staccato bull crap.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-28   14:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Chuck_Wagon, BobCeleste, CZ82, RLK, misterwhite (#10)

And when I was in the Indian guides we did conduct a panty raid on Camp Matollionequay (the girls camp for the Indian Princesses)

Hilarious.

Sounds like a Harold Ramis flick.

YMCA camps Ockanickon and Matollionequay - Medford, New Jersey.

That photo, the smile on that kid...is telling us it's a l'il bit o' heaven.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-28   16:38:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: rlk (#12)

With the election of JFK we rejected sanity in favor of finger pointing staccato bull crap.

I wish we could say THE change in the definition of "sanity" and the epidemic of "finger pointing staccato bull crap" was facilitated marked singularly by of JFK and events thereafter. But they weren't.

My observation of America's downfall is mirrored elsewhere. For the same reason.

In his book, 'Original Intent,' historian David Barton documented the alarming rise of destructive behavior that followed the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to remove Bibles from public schools. Indeed, since 1963, our nation has seen a sharp increase of violent crime, drug abuse, unwed teen mothers, sexually transmitted diseases, divorce, suicide, single-parent homes, abortion, homosexual relationships, and pornography. This is not accidental, nor should it surprise us. The Founders clearly saw that when we remove the influence of religion from society, all society suffers.

"Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." ~ John Adams

“Religion and morality are necessary to good government, good order, and good laws...for when the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice.” ~ William Paterson

“It should therefore be among the first objects of those who wish well to the national prosperity to encourage and support the principles of religion and morality…. ” ~ Abraham Baldwin

(Source: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8f5_1272236031)

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-28   16:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Chuck_Wagon, Liberator, redleghunter (#10)

Bible-Based Alternative to Boy Scouts Launches After Policy Change for Gay Scouts

Jan. 2, 2014 9:00pm Fred Lucas

With the new year came a new group for youth, based on Christian principles, as a response to the Boy Scouts of America’s decision to allow gay scouts. Trail Life USA formally began operating Jan. 1.

Bible Based Alternative to Boy Scouts Launches After Policy Change for Gay Scouts

Former Boy Scout and Scoutmaster Ron Orr stands outside his home in North Richland Hills, Texas on Wednesday, Dec. 18, 2013. Orr, a business consultant, is signing up local units for a new conservative alternative to the Boy Scouts of America called Trail Life USA, after the BSA, in the most contentious change of membership policy in their 103-year history, opened their ranks to openly gay boys. Orr is part of a family that has four generations of Eagle Scouts. His older son recently earned his Eagle rank and his younger son was on the verge of doing likewise. But Orr said he could not stand by after the policy change. (AP/LM Otero)

The new organization’s motto is “Walk Worthy,” taken from Colossians 1:10 “that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing Him, being fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God.”

“Our vision is to be the premier national character development organization for young men which produces godly and responsible husbands, fathers and citizens,” the organization’s website states.

Though it’s based on Christian and biblical principles, its open to people of all faiths.

“While the program is undergirded by Biblical values and unapologetically reflects a Christian worldview, there is also a clearly defined inclusion policy for youth,” according to the membership standards. “Accordingly, all boys are welcome irrespective of religion, race, national origin or socio- economic status. Our goal is for parents and families of every faith to be able to place their boys in a youth program that endeavors to provide moral consistency and ethical integrity in its adult leaders.”

. Larry Wagner, who is a leader recruiting members and host churches for organization in Northeast Florida told WTEV in Jacksonville, Fla., “as a Christian, I see Trail Life USA as a way to be more explicit with my Christianity and imparting that aspect of it as they grow into manhood.”

Wagner said that potential troop leaders agree to a statement of faith, that includes defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman, according to the Jacksonville station.

“For the youth who are still exploring who they are or might be having a conception of who they might be, we make no such constraint,” Wagner said. “Come on board, walk with us for a while. We’ll see where this leads.”

The idea for the organization came last September in Nashville, when 1,200 former scout masters, Eagle Scouts, parents, church leaders and other former professions with the Boy Scouts of America form 44 states gathered.

The Boy Scouts of America, a 103-year-old organization, sparked controversy last year when it lifted a ban on gay youth scout members. It did not lift a ban on adult gay scout masters. The new policy for the Boy Scouts also took effect Wednesday.

The Trail Life USA membership standards for the organization includes, “The basis for the program’s ethical and moral standards is found in the Bible. In terms of sexual identification and behavior, we affirm that any sexual activity outside the context of the covenant of marriage between one man and one woman is sinful before God and therefore inconsistent with the values and principles of the program.”

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-28   20:28:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82, Liberator, tomder55, GarySpFc, Chuck_Wagon (#15)

Our vision is to be the premier national character development organization for young men which produces godly and responsible husbands, fathers and citizens,” the organization’s website states.

Good deal. They will grow as most churches will switch to this group. Another popular scouting alternative are the AWANAS.

http://awana.org/

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17

redleghunter  posted on  2015-07-29   0:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#13)

That photo, the smile on that kid...is telling us it's a l'il bit o' heaven.

A week or more away from the house and grumpy parents would be a bit of heaven.

“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-29   6:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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