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Title: Donald Trump and the Fed-Up Crowd
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URL Source: http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanso ... -fed-up-crowd/?singlepage=true
Published: Jul 27, 2015
Author: Victor Davis Hanson
Post Date: 2015-07-27 13:28:30 by Rufus T Firefly
Keywords: None
Views: 1929
Comments: 18
Donald Trump — a former liberal and benefactor of Democrats — is still surging. But his loud New York lingo, popular put-downs of obnoxious reporters and trashing of the D.C. establishment are symptoms, not the catalyst, of the growing popular outrage of lots of angry Americans who are fed up. The fed-up crowd likes the payback of watching blood sport in an arena where niceties just don’t apply anymore. At least for a while longer, they enjoy the smug getting their comeuppance, as an uncouth, bullheaded Trump charges about, snorting and spearing liberal pieties and more sober and judicious Republicans at random. Perhaps they don’t see the abjectly crude Trump as any more crude that Barack Obama calmly in academic tones assuring Americans that they all could keep their doctors and health plans when he knew that was simply untrue or announcing to the nation that his own grandmother was a “typical white person” or advising supporters to “get in their face.” They see Trump as no more vindictive that Harry Reid lying about Mitt Romney’s tax returns (and then bragging that such a lie helped defeat him), or a Sen. Barbara Boxer publicly attacking the single, non-parental status of then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. And they certainly don’t see Trump as uncouth as an Al Sharpton — former presidential candidate, chief advisor on matters of race to Barack Obama, and current TV news show host. Trump’s crass bombast is enjoyed by the fed-up crowd as the proper antidote to the even greater bombast of the Left, who created Trump’s latest manifestations. The conservative base is tired of illegal immigration. Their furor peaked with the horrific killing of Kate Steinle by a seven-time convicted felon and five-time deported illegal alien. They are baffled that one apparently exempt and privileged ethnic group can arbitrarily decide to ignore federal law. They are irate that they are lectured about their supposed racism from an open-borders movement predicated on La Raza-like ethnic chauvinism. They do not want to hear about nativism from a lobby that so often at rallies waves the flag of the country that none of the protestors seems to wish to return to, a country whose authoritarianism is romanticized as much as their host country is faulted for its magnanimity. Call this what you will, but emotion over neglecting federal law is much less worrisome than cool calculation over violating it. The fed-up crowd expects statistics to be massaged to counter reality; in the real world nearly a million illegal aliens have committed crimes, with almost 700,000 charged with felonies and serious misdemeanors. In fantasyland, they are said to be more lawful than U.S. citizens. Most Americans would be guilty of felonies for creating false identities, or using fraudulent Social Security numbers; in matters of illegal immigration, these common crimes are not even considered crimes. The furor over the death of Ms. Steinle reflected the mounting outrage — especially at the hypocrisy of the elites who crafted sanctuary-city legislation. Would they be so nonchalant about the law if a daughter of one of the architects of the legislation were to be gunned down by an illegal alien? Would San Franciscans object if Tulsa nullified federal gun legislation or declared open season on federally protected species? Only liberalism can take a reactionary Old Confederacy idea of federal nullification and turn it into a progressive fad. The recent disclosures about Planned Parenthood likewise infuriated the fed-up base. Again, they were not incensed just at the callous and sick way supposed humanitarians at Planned Parenthood talked of slicing up fetal tissue and selling organs, but at the hypocrisy of it all. At a time liberals are Trotskyzing our past to damn to memory any ancient historical figure who owned slaves or practiced racism, how does Planned Parenthood’s godhead Margaret Sanger, the racist eugenicist and promoter of abortion to curb minority populations, get a pass? Liberals lecture about “settled science” and adherence to logic instead of myth and folklore. But they also insist on talking of fetuses as non-human organisms, even as they concede both that fetuses in the womb possess viable — and marketable — human tissues and that developing babies at 22 months are now viable outside the womb. For those who bandy about words like troglodyte, it is quite Neanderthal, in the scientific sense, to believe that a baby is not a living, viable organism until it emerges from the birth canal. For a movement that talks of caring and compassion, it is hard to write a script more cruel and callous than that of the Planned Parenthood talking heads referencing a Lamborghini or a “less crunchy” abortion technique or the macabre house of horrors of the abortionist and convicted murderer Dr. Gosnell. As for the supposed questionable ethics of catching Planned Parenthood with ruse and stealthy tape, no one seemed to object over secretly taping at a private gathering Mitt Romney’s unfortunate quip about the “47 percent,” much less did liberals object to four decades of 60 Minutes ambush-style, secret-video reporting. The fed-up crowd is tired of racial hypocrisy. In the Trayvon Martin case, the president weighed in on the ongoing case in blatantly racist fashion by announcing the deceased might have looked like his own son, as the New York Times invented “white Hispanic” to lessen George’s Zimmerman’s ethnic fides (e.g., is Barack Obama, of similar half-minority lineage, a “white African-American”?) and as the media photo-shopped Zimmerman’s head wounds and selectively edited his taped 911 call. Fantasy was thematic ad nauseam from the Duke lacrosse fiasco to the Michael Brown mythologies, the font of the “hands up, don’t shoot” lie that became a national slogan. But again, the hypocrisy is what irritates more — a Barack Obama siccing his administration after supposedly elite segregated neighborhoods as he sends his kids to Sidwell Friends. The fed-up crowd expects that Paula Deen, the Duck Dynasty crowd, and Donald Sterling can become public enemies with a racist or insensitive word. But this is not so when a Harry Reid, Joe Biden, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Chris Rock, Jamie Foxx, Spike Lee, Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson mouths unequivocal racism. They assume that Jefferson can be rendered no more than a slave owner, but not liberal icon Woodrow Wilson who practiced 20th-century not 18th-century-style racism. The fed-up crowd senses that if America continues its present regressive trajectory it will end up as a Greece, Detroit, or Chicago, without anywhere in America to flee to. It no doubt wants Trump to continue for a bit longer, as he struts about and shouts over why Hillary has a career when Gen. David Petraeus’s was ruined for roughly the same offenses, or cuts short an agenda-driven and biased Telemundo reporter as biased and agenda-driven. At some point the fed-ups will have vented and become fed up themselves with the circus-master Trump, who equates his own money-making with both virtue and wisdom. But we are not there yet quite yet. To explain the inexplicable rise of Donald Trump is to calibrate the anger of a fed-up crowd that is enjoying the comeuppance of an elite that never pays for the ramifications of its own ideology. The elite media, whose trademark is fad and cant, writes off the fed-up crowd as naïve and susceptible to demagoguery as the contradictory and hypocritical Trump manipulates their anger. In fact, they probably got it backwards. Trump is a transitory vehicle of the fed-up crowd, a current expression of their distaste for both Democratic and Republican politics, but not an end in and of himself. The fed-up crowd is tired of being demagogued to death by progressives, who brag of “working across the aisle” and “bipartisanship” as they ram through agendas with executive orders, court decisions, and public ridicule. So the fed-ups want other conservative candidates to emulate Trump’s verve, energy, eagerness to speak the unspeakable, and no-holds barred Lee Atwater style — without otherwise being Trump.
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#1. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0)
That may be what they want, but they are not going to get that. They're going to have two choices: Donald Trump, or Hillary/Jeb. There will be no "acceptable" blowhard. It will be Trump, or nothing. I choose Trump.
I'm been consistent in saying the political system is broken beyond repair - repair via elections, anyway. I still say that. So with that out of the way, I'll say this: If Donald Trump is a choice come November 2016, I will vote for him. No matter what he says or does between now and then. The ship's going down. Like the orchestra on the Titanic, at least Trump will provide distraction while we sink under the waves.
What the writer fails to understand is that these and any other such acts are licensed in pursuit of economic equality when committed by what are labeled as "immigrant strivers."
This is all a culmination of the struggle between liberals & conservatives, for want of better descriptive terms. The fed up crowd is tired of taking a lot of shit. And they are fed up with the fact that so many that should be standing up for them are not. For example - RINO's. They are tired of having to give ground, while the liberals keep taking, and never giving. The same with the divisions in the Repuke party, the establishment always says its their way, or the highway, never concede to the base. They always throw out that if they lose it is the conservatives fault. The reality is it is their fault, because they engineer to get one of their toady's elected, then blame conservatives because the establishment shit sandwich did not sell. This country is like a huge pressure cooker, and when the day comes that it blows, many will be surprised, but if they had half a brain they would see it coming. The fed up crowd is limited as to how much they will take, and they are quickly reaching that limit! Donald Trump is appealing to them, he is singing their song. Si vis pacem, para bellum
I have as well Rufus. Sadly, we are correct. Si vis pacem, para bellum
You've summed it up pretty well. Nothing I can except this: Trump is currently personifying the people's discontent. And while people may not trust him, for now "trust" doesn't matter. And he can't be bought. He can't be blackmailed (at least so far). Hopefully he won't be "Dallased".
The pressure is escaping all the time, in the form of death. Fact is, the people with the greatest ground to be angry are the White middle classes and working classes. And Whites are in a demographic death spiral, rapidly aging as a group, well below replacement rate. The people with the greatest cause for anger essentially gave up on change long ago and chose, instead, in the face of the economic pressures of crony capitalism and world empire, to conserve their resources by having fewer and fewer children. Contraception destroyed the White birth rate, as Whites sought sexual pleasure as entertainment, but postponed (or rejected outright) reproduction and large families for economic reasons. The correct answer all along was to use the power of government in such a way as to redistribute resources to always favor large, well-educated families. THAT is the sort of population dynamic that will remain vibrant and productive. Of course, it will also mean that the "managerial" class and the "elite" class can only enjoy a certain degree of "status rights" over everybody else, because the economic redistribution that is required to give people the security to have large families cannot sustain the sort of wealth concentration in the top 10% that we've seen in America. But the Americans and Europeans did not choose that path. Instead, they refused to redistribute, which put impossible economic pressure on families. So people rationally chose to contracept. And the net result is a demographic death spiral. Statistically, the average age of white married women having their first baby is pushing into the mid to late 30s. And that, in turn, means fewer children, more defects, etc. The White population is declining relative to the overall population, and is demographically destined to decline in absolute terms, all on account of this. I focus on Whites, because THAT is the population that would explode, if anyone would. They have not exploded. Instead, they've chosen demographic suicide. So, the day will never come when "it blows". Rather, the day will come when this is "los Estados Unidos Norte Americanos", while Europe heads for Sharia 2060.
Well, I cannot argue with what you said. I will sum it this way: Our nations ills are so huge, so numerous, so multifaceted, so complex, that there is no political solution. In the end, the US will go the way of the Roman Empire, into the dustbin of history, out of existence. And largely for the same reason, massive unrestricted immigration. Like Michael Savage is fond of saying: Borders - Language - Culture. We have not studied the mistakes of history, and we are repeating them.! We are committing national suicide. Si vis pacem, para bellum
Hey Vic 13, help me out. I am just an uneducated hillbilly. What does that gibberish translate to in English. I tried to do a google, and got more gibberish. Thanks Si vis pacem, para bellum
Your plan won't be put into practise in the USA because of racial/ethnic rivalries. If the USA was a more homogenious nation (and it pretty much is 80% white gove or take) this would not be an issue but there are so many in the USA that fear that if we pay women to have more babies that will mean more black women and Spanish women having babies over WASP babies. This is decline in rich populations is not confined to whites. Japanese also go through this. If you live in a consurmerist culture (note I said consumerist not capitalist) the more babies you have the less free time and money you have to consume. You can't afford the new second car or the vacation condo or nights out to dine. The consumer culture is the instant gratification culture. I don't know how to end that or switch that over without destroying the economy. One way, I think - based on Catholic philosophical thinking is to pay middle class wages to young people right out of high school - especially have a manufacturing base where young men 18 or even younger can get a job that will allow them to own a small home, a car and get married at a young age. We are pushing people into colleges for service work training because we have no more manufacturing work left to support the economy. In fact, it may get worse as automation advances - self driving cars, automated burger makers, etc.
The United North American States (to distinguish it from "los Estados Unidos Mexicanos" - the "United Mexican States", which is the actual name of the country we call "Mexico").
Literally...The States United North America. Or, The United States of North America. I believe Vic's saying that it will be Spanish speaking, and probably extend beyond the current US borders. If the pope has his way the flag will probably be rainbow colors. Here's a weird scenario I just dreamed up... Europe collapses into chaos, and boatloads of refugees come to the US changing the demographics from headed to "hispanic", to a more european than ever. Second wave immigration from Ireland, Italy, Germany, etc? It's difficult to predict the future. Thanks. No hablo espano
Si vis pacem, para bellum
One way, I think - based on Catholic philosophical thinking is to pay middle class wages to young people right out of high school - especially have a manufacturing base where young men 18 or even younger can get a job that will allow them to own a small home, a car and get married at a young age. We are pushing people into colleges for service work training because we have no more manufacturing work left to support the economy. I do. I know how to do it. I didn't think it up myself. You know how I focus like a laser beam on what God said (God, just God...not Paul, not "the Church", not Pastor Joe, just God) - well, God's secret was this: Everybody gets a piece of free land. Back then, it was a free farm. Inheritable, inalienable. That gave everybody the means of production to raise and feed the family. They could rent it if they choose (and many did choose). So, that is what you do. Yes, there must be a transition, and the transition probably consists of using the money economy to effect it. But the POINT is that once you hit adulthood, you are given a piece of property that is your own primary residence. There's a square footage with basic amenities (toilet, heat running water) that is free. Free. Education is also free, through final degree. A child's allowance is granted to the parents. Come adulthood, the child comes into his own. The point is that there is a basic fundamental security that all people require: shelter, water and heat. This is not a privilege, it's a birthright from God. Which means, of course, that profiteering down at that level is not something that can be done. I suppose I could chart out the whole money economy way to do this. But there's no point. It's never, ever going to happen. The only way the culture ever COULD do it would be is if it were a Christian culture. This is something that, for example, a strong leader in an evangelizing country could do - Putin could do this. We cannot. So here, the cancer has to be cut away. People have to look to themselves, their families, and the sphere of Christians, and they have to cooperate internally there. That's a different thing than what would save the country as a whole. I'm going to go back to focusing on God's Economics on the other thread, because by concentrating on what God said about economics, what is important emerges.
Thanks. No hablo espano Your weird dream is pretty wild. I had not thought of that. But I doubt that will happen. TPTB will keep them out. Si vis pacem, para bellum
And the Europeans who come over will all be "socialist" in the American terminology, because Europe is that, and all of the Europeans who come over will be that. So, you'll get France. It will be Whiter than it is, and more European in the socio-economic sense. The best answer is to forget about silly things like race and focus on God.
Norteamericano should be rendered as one word. In Spanish, it refers to someone from the USA. The Spanish abbreviation for USA is EEUU. The double letters indicate the plural words, Estados Unidos.
Actually, there is an idea floating around - and it is a right wing conservative origin idea in case the imbeciles on here who get their info from Rush radio drop by - that all citizens get a tribute from the govt - based on the Alaskan model and have them get around $30-$35 grand a year - rich and poor alike. This money can be raised by leasing grazing fees, selling oil and minerals on govt land that the Feds give away no based on old outdated models when they were trying to get settlers to develop the west and gave land away free. By doing this you would also eliminate welfare and foodstamps dept as much as this will upset old kooks who want to complain poor people are eating lobsters on their dime. What would they have to complain about after that is gone on talk radio? Switzerland is thinking about it also. http://www.fljs.org/sites/www.fljs.org/files/publications/Murray.pdf Guaranteed Income as a Replacement for the Welfare State Charles Alan Murray (born 1943) is an American paleoconservative and paleolibertarian[not verified in body]-leaning political scientist, author, columnist, and pundit.
So the fed-ups want other conservative candidates to emulate Trump’s verve, energy, eagerness to speak the unspeakable, and no-holds barred Lee Atwater style — without otherwise being Trump.
#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
I choose Trump.
#3. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0)
Most Americans would be guilty of felonies for creating false identities, or using fraudulent Social Security numbers; in matters of illegal immigration, these common crimes are not even considered crimes.
#4. To: Rufus T Firefly (#0)
" Donald Trump and the Fed-Up Crowd "
#5. To: Rufus T Firefly (#2)
" I'm been consistent in saying the political system is broken beyond repair - repair via elections, anyway. I still say that. . . . The ship's going down."
#6. To: Stoner (#4)
#7. To: Stoner (#4)
This country is like a huge pressure cooker, and when the day comes that it blows, many will be surprised, but if they had half a brain they would see it coming.
#8. To: Vicomte13 (#7)
#9. To: Vicomte13 (#7)
" "los Estados Unidos Norte Americanos" "
#10. To: Vicomte13 (#7)
The correct answer all along was to use the power of government in such a way as to redistribute resources to always favor large, well-educated families. THAT is the sort of population dynamic that will remain vibrant and productive. Of course, it will also mean that the "managerial" class and the "elite" class can only enjoy a certain degree of "status rights" over everybody else, because the economic redistribution that is required to give people the security to have large families cannot sustain the sort of wealth concentration in the top 10% that we've seen in America.
#11. To: Stoner (#9)
los Estados Unidos Norte Americanos
#12. To: Stoner, Vicomte13 (#9)
" "los Estados Unidos Norte Americanos" "
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#13. To: Vicomte13 (#11)
#14. To: Pericles (#10)
I don't know how to end that or switch that over without destroying the economy.
#15. To: hondo68 (#12)
#16. To: hondo68 (#12)
#17. To: Stoner, hondo68 (#15)
#18. To: Vicomte13 (#14)
(Edited)
I do. I know how to do it. I didn't think it up myself. You know how I focus like a laser beam on what God said (God, just God...not Paul, not "the Church", not Pastor Joe, just God) - well, God's secret was this:
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