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Published: Jul 26, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-07-26 22:39:19 by A K A Stone
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Forty to fifty Americans are fighting with Kurdish forces against ISIS– jordan matson Retired US Marine Jordan Matson joined the YPG Kurdish fighters to fight ISIS in September 2014.

Jordan told Greta Van Susteren in February that there are 40-50 Americans fighting with Kurdish forces against ISIS

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

You can thank John McCain for all of this mess. You wanted him as a US President at one tyme, didn't you?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-26   22:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1)

You can thank John McCain for all of this mess. You wanted him as a US President at one tyme, didn't you?

No we had this discussion before. Remember I told you I wanted Sarah Palin as President.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   22:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

LQQKs to me, that you have a lot "wants" that have never materialized. It isn't your fault, either. You were brought up on the notion of the tooth faerie or the Great Pumpkin can save you.

Now, you have changed your tune to The Donald. Good luck! He wants to bomb the ME into oblivion.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-26   22:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

Great Pumpkin can save you

The Great Pumpkin is real. So is the tooth fairy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   22:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#3)

Good luck! He wants to bomb the ME into oblivion.

If he can get rid of the Muslims then good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   22:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

what if he chooses that tactic in sovereign America to eliminate all the mosques and their worshippers?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-26   22:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#6)

I'll take the bait. I hope every mosque in America disappears. I wish every Muslim in America would go away.

I want the country to look like America again. Like back in the 80's.

I don't want to go to a convenience store and be waited on by Muslims. I want to be waited on by Johnny down the street.

I want to make them eat bacon.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   23:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Besides the Great Pumpkin and the Tooth Faerie, do you believe in Santa Claus, too?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-26   23:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#3)

LQQKs to me, that you have a lot "wants" that have never materialized.

Kinda like Ron Paul?

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-26   23:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#9)

Ron Paul is a perfect candidate for POTUS. Serious experience + training + military background + education + libertarian ideals.

Unfortunately, he is a bit older than than the punk fascists that you support and dignify.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-26   23:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#10)

Ron Paul is a perfect candidate

BUT... it LQQKs to me, that you have a lot "wants" that have never materialized

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-26   23:40:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GrandIsland (#11)

I promoted Ron Paul because he has the best political chemistry to remove or eliminate the vermin in Washington DC.

He was never my only candidate that I have donated towards.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-26   23:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo, Grandisland (#10)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   23:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Grandisland, buckeroo, sneakypete, cz82 (#13)

Whether you agree with Ron Paul on not. In the clip above his demeanor comes across as kind of creepy wouldn't you agree?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   23:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#6)

A simple declaration that Islam is no longer a religion but a cult. The Branch Davidians were so dangerous we firebomb them but not Muslims?

jeremiad  posted on  2015-07-27   0:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)

Whether you agree with Ron Paul on not. In the clip above his demeanor comes across as kind of creepy wouldn't you agree?

Yes, He's got that slimy like, squeaky voice. He even out-creeps Ted Cruz's voice.

And to associate with Morton Downy Jr... that's like being on the Jerry Springer show.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-27   3:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#2)

I wanted Sarah Palin as President.

IMHO,Obomber would have lost if she had been at the top of that ticket.

Instead,what happened was McLunatic stabbed her in the back over and over,and between that and her loyalty to him,her political career is over forever.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   7:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#2)

No we had this discussion before. Remember I told you I wanted Sarah Palin as President.

Humm, I like that, I can work that into my book, vote for VP as Pres.


I think I’ll write a book, a fiction based on how a small group of Marine Veterans could restore the Republic by assassination.

As you look at Washington today, you see that we have a communist muslim terrorist as President, we have a mind dead robot as vice president and a slave of the president as Speaker of the House. Next in secession is the Senate Majority leader, another slave of the muslim terrorist. After the vice president, speaker of the house and majority leader of the senate comes members of the presidents cabinet, Republic haters like the Secretary of State and head of the Dept of defense.

What my book will discuss is how a small but dedicated group of former Marines, restore the Republic, by eliminating, by assassinations, starting with the Speaker of the House, all of the leadership of the House until, sitting in the office of Speaker is a true Republican patriot, bond and dedicated to the Constitution. And then the elimination of the vice president and the President, putting the Republican Patriot Speaker in the oval office and for once a true God fearing Constitution loving man is sitting in the office of President, the time of the defecating on the Constitution and on our Republican form of government over.

Now you ask, why would a Preacher, one who has worked so hard to translate so much of the Bible, want to write a secular world fiction instead of a serious book of biblical study?

Well the answer is simple; with so many, that have never read the bible, writing commentary on it why not fill the gap and make a few bucks in the process, after all with the savants of the most low prince of this world writing books on Scripture, which they know nothing about, why shouldn’t I write a book about something I do know about? A book about former Marines who want to see the Republic restored.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-27   11:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: BobCeleste, A K A stone (#18)

I think I’ll write a book, a fiction based on how a small group of Marine Veterans could restore the Republic by assassination.

Geez, how many would they have to assassinate before they find such a member of congress?

A minor plot problem would be that after wiping out a large number of congressmen, it might just be difficult to get the Prez and VP at the same time (or at all).

Author Mark Goodwin [Amazon link] is a Christian author of fiction who has published a couple of decent SHTF series mixing Christian conservatism and financial or societal collapse.

American Reset is book one of the first trilogy, and The Days of Noah: Conspiracy is book one of second trilogy, the third book yet to be published.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-27   13:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: BobCeleste (#18)

I think I’ll write a book, a fiction based on how a small group of Marine Veterans could restore the Republic by assassination.

You keep coming up with this assassination crap.

If anyone reads between the lines it sounds like you are threatening to kill people.

I don't support anything like that. It would just make things worse. So please quit talking about assassinations.

I don't want to be associated with that kind of talk.

Thanks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-27   14:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#17)

I wanted Sarah Palin as President.

IMHO,Obomber would have lost if she had been at the top of that ticket.

Instead,what happened was McLunatic stabbed her in the back over and over,and between that and her loyalty to him,her political career is over forever.

No, she stabbed herself in the back with her shallowness and her lack of familiarity with basics. She tried to substitute a Sarah Palin vaudeville act and Miss Wassila contest for discussion of realities and fell flat. She was way out of her depth, but she made a million dollars while doing it.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-27   14:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: GrandIsland (#16)

He's got that slimy like, squeaky voice. He even out-creeps Ted Cruz's voice.

Here's part of the problem...

If people like you are going to continue basing your election-time decisions on style over substance; The superficial over the sincere; Platitudes and PC-BS over statesmanship )yeah, I realize few recognize it any longer when they hear it))....

....AND if the majority of pods prefer those who "look-the-part" over principled patriots (who lack coiffed locks and a six-pack), then traitors with big breasts or great voice boxes (like Hoosane 0blabla) are going to continue being considered "better leaders."

John Adams and James Madison would have NEVER been elected President these days.

MEMO TO AMERICA: "Yeah, you're right -- what's most important is looking great in the casket."

*eyeball roll*

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#1)

You can thank John McCain for all of this mess. You wanted him as a US President at one tyme, didn't you?

McStain. NOT Hoosane 0blabla??

Do you understand how this gubmint works??

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#3)

Now, you have changed your tune to The Donald. Good luck! He wants to bomb the ME into oblivion.

What's *your* ME plan?? AND among the current field *your* favorite candidate who in your estimation best re-calibrates and revitalizes an "America-First" governance?

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#6)

what if he chooses that tactic in sovereign America to eliminate all the mosques and their worshippers?

Is that a *bad* security measure in your mind?

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo, GrandIsland (#10)

Ron Paul is a perfect candidate for POTUS. Serious experience + training + military background + education + libertarian ideals.

HUH??

Ron Paul was a military DOCTOR. Big deal. Now he's a has-been fossil who as Texas Congressman should have ran for Governor OR Senator where he could have made a serious impact on state and national policy, but instead played it safe.

Unfortunately, he is a bit older than than the punk fascists that you support and dignify.

A "bit"?? Lol -- he's older than dirt.

Whose candidacy do YOU support that might help change the current insane policies and agendas? If fact, who in this entire field in your opinion has actually helped America, and helped lead the charge against the current uni-Party cartel who support Amnesty and the invasion?

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: jeremiad, buckeroo (#15)

A simple declaration that Islam is no longer a religion but a cult. The Branch Davidians were so dangerous we firebomb them but not Muslims?

+1000!

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: nolu chan (#19)

Geez, how many would they have to assassinate before they find such a member of congress?

Hey, it is a book, not a historically accurate report, seems all the secular world non Christians are busy writing Christian books, so I figured I would fill the gap.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-27   14:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#22)

If people like you are going to continue basing your election-time decisions on style over substance;

Then you need to send this out to the millions that cringe when they hear his squeaky voice and get that "weirdo" feeling... because you are wasting your time telling me about "style over substance". I'd vote for Cruz if he sounded like the Big Bopper choking out Tiny Tim. I personally don't give a shit how greasy they sound, I'll vote for a non libtard that sounds like that teacher from the Peanuts over ANY (D) party or socialist libtard party.

I was just trying to point out that your average American peer is fickle. They'll base their vote on tit size, skin color or voice... and there isn't a damn thing either of us can do about it.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-27   14:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#20)

You keep coming up with this assassination crap.

If anyone reads between the lines it sounds like you are threatening to kill people.

It's a book for heavens sake, with all the non Christian writers writing Christian books, I figured I would fill the gap in the secular market.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-27   14:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#22)

if the majority of pods prefer those who "look-the-part" over principled patriots, then traitors with big breasts or great voice boxes are going to continue being considered "better leaders."

What's wrong with that? Why shouldn't political candidates be an extension of the plays and comedies people watch on their TVs for six hours each night?

rlk  posted on  2015-07-27   14:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: rlk (#21)

Instead,what happened was McLunatic stabbed her in the back over and over,and between that and her loyalty to him,her political career is over forever.

No, she stabbed herself in the back with her shallowness and her lack of familiarity with basics. She tried to substitute a Sarah Palin vaudeville act and Miss Wassila contest for discussion of realities and fell flat. She was way out of her depth, ....

We disagree. What she did was follow the company line like a good little soldier,and get slapped back into her place by McLunatic every time she varied from the talking points.

What killed her political future was meekly taking the verbal ass-kickings by McLunatic and never getting up on her hind legs and standing up for herself.

Any candidate that won't stand up for themselves damn sure won't stand up for you if put into office.

but she made a million dollars while doing it.

That she did,and IMHO,she sold out too cheaply. After all,how much is YOUR character worth? Would you sell YOUR soul to the RNC and McLunatic for a shot at second place?

Or even First Place?

I know I wouldn't. Money is just money,and not all that important unless you are homelees and hungry.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   14:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#17)

IMHO,Obomber would have lost if she had been at the top of that ticket.

Instead,what happened was McLunatic stabbed her in the back over and over,and between that and her loyalty to him,her political career is over forever.

Yes, but the RNC PTB and media would have never let Palin become the GOPe's candidate. NEVER.

I stated this many times, but the ONLY reason Palin's was the VP selection was only to ridicule and mock a conservative, Christian woman, and make her THE scapegoat for McStain's inevitable, planned loss. (Yes, he repeatedly stabbed PALIN in the back, as well as America.)

The RNC and PTB were in shock when according to the polling, Palin's popularity catapulted Stain into a slight lead in September. A total fluke. The RNC panicked. It was then they planned the only thing McStain could do -- sabotage his own campaign, put it on hold. He did this in part by inexplicably running to DC to support TARP (which did NOT require Stain's immediate attention and campaign strangulation.)

IF Stain was truly running to win, he *would* have won, *would* have criticised 0blabla for a thousand sins, and WOULD have taken that momentum and buried Hoosane. And the rest is history.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberatorbuckeroo (#25)

what if he chooses that tactic in sovereign America to eliminate all the mosques and their worshippers?

Is that a *bad* security measure in your mind?

I can't speak for buckeroo or anyone else,but in MY mind you can bet your ass that would be a bad move.

We have Freedom of Religion in this country,and it's a damn good thing we do,or the Catholics or the Muslims could take over and ban all other religions and have us ending up in the same position of constant wars like the Muddle East.

With the loss of Freedom of Religion goes the loss of Freedom of Speech,Freedom of Assembly,Freedom of Association,and all other freedoms we enjoy on a daily basis to the point we take them for granted and don't even think of them.

Take all that away,and this ain't America anymore.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   14:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#32)

A nice expression of sympathy for her. But in all this sympathetic wailing, I can not see what she did or said that impressed you so deeply.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-27   14:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator, jeremiad, buckeroo, ALL, *Religious History and Issues* (#27)

A simple declaration that Islam is no longer a religion but a cult. The Branch Davidians were so dangerous we firebomb them but not Muslims?

+1000!

Has it never occurred to you people that it was WRONG for the GOVERNMENT to declare the Davidians as a cult,and that there was and is no excuse for the government murdering them because they held different religious viewpoints than the majority?

PLEASE keep in mind that any government that has the power to declare the Dravidians a cult and take police state action against them that results in them being murdered ALSO has the power to declare Catholics,Protestants,or anyone else a cult and do the same thing to them?

Since WHEN is it proper in America to have the government murder or arrest people for holding unpopular religious beliefs?

Yes,you and I can call any and every religion a cult if we want,but WE are NOT the government. Big,BIG difference.

Be VERY careful what you ask for,lest you get it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   14:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Liberator (#33)

The RNC and PTB were in shock when according to the polling, Palin's popularity catapulted Stain into a slight lead in September. A total fluke. The RNC panicked. It was then they planned the only thing McStain could do -- sabotage his own campaign, put it on hold. He did this in part by inexplicably running to DC to support TARP (which did NOT require Stain's immediate attention and campaign strangulation.)

IF Stain was truly running to win, he *would* have won, *would* have criticised 0blabla for a thousand sins, and WOULD have taken that momentum and buried Hoosane.

I am in complete agreement with that.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   14:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: rlk, sneakypete (#21)

No, she stabbed herself in the back with her shallowness and her lack of familiarity with basics. She tried to substitute a Sarah Palin vaudeville act and Miss Wassila contest for discussion of realities and fell flat. She was way out of her depth, but she made a million dollars while doing it.

Robert, I thought you were savvy? You're clueless on the reality of the matter. Apparently you weren't paying ANY attention to the actual campaign dynamics.

Sarah Palin single-handedly propelled McStain into the lead by September, had overwhelmed 0blabla's lead. He was positioned to win the Presidency. UNTIL Stain sabotaged the entire effort, inexplicably suspended his campaign over TARP, and made it obvious that his candidacy was a charade from the beginning.

Palin was drawing unbelievable large crowds, sparked passion and motivation, and had won the day for Republicans. UNTIL. NO one since Reagan has EVER sparked that kind of passion in a GOP campaign. Fact is not even the Gipper did what Sarah Palin did -- carry that dog of a candidate McCain into a position to win the Presidency. NO ONE can take that away from her.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: rlk (#35)

But in all this sympathetic wailing, I can not see what she did or said that impressed you so deeply.

She took conservative stands early,and kept taking them until she had been slapped down by McLunatic and the RNC to the point she was punch drunk.

Every time early that Palin took the stage,McLunatic's poll numbers jumped. Since it was the Dim's "turn" to sit in the White House,she had to be slapped down to make sure Obomber won in order to "prove our Di-Versity and end the racial hatred".

Just look at how wonderfully THAT worked out.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   15:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete, jeremiad, buckeroo, ALL (#36) (Edited)

Has it never occurred to you people that it was WRONG for the GOVERNMENT to declare the Davidians as a cult,and that there was and is no excuse for the government murdering them because they held different religious viewpoints than the majority?...

YES And yes.

Maybe you've misunderstood our position here.

Jeremiad was merely pointing out the HYPOCRISY of the fedgoob in the case of the Davidians and reaction of respective perceived "threat" of Davidians vs. Muzzies.

The Muzzies have declared war on America. Their cult fundamentally opposes all that America represents as well as our laws. Sharia Law and a Caliphate is their *stated* goal. Their acts of terrorism demonstratively prove this point. OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.

I don't believe America ought to live in a Caliphate and under Sharia Law. There are few options in addressing this.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   15:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete, rlk (#39)

She took conservative stands early,and kept taking them until she had been slapped down by McLunatic and the RNC to the point she was punch drunk.

Every time early that Palin took the stage,McLunatic's poll numbers jumped. Since it was the Dim's "turn" to sit in the White House,she had to be slapped down to make sure Obomber won in order to "prove our Di-Versity and end the racial hatred".

Just look at how wonderfully THAT worked out.

Succinctly and properly deconstructed history and dynamics of that campaign.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   15:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete, buckeroo (#34)

I can't speak for buckeroo or anyone else,but in MY mind you can bet your ass that would be a bad move.

We have Freedom of Religion in this country,and it's a damn good thing we do,or the Catholics or the Muslims could take over and ban all other religions and have us ending up in the same position of constant wars like the Muddle East.

Does the equation change if it's discovered that American Mosques have provided cover (as they do in other parts of the world) and been the epicenters for plans to disrupt and terrorize America?

With the loss of Freedom of Religion goes the loss of Freedom of Speech,Freedom of Assembly,Freedom of Association,and all other freedoms we enjoy on a daily basis to the point we take them for granted and don't even think of them. Take all that away,and this ain't America anymore.

America is dead anyway if you allow Sharia Law and a spreading Caliphate to supersede the US Constitution. A Death Cult that converts by the sword is NOT a "religion." It's an invasion of enemies of America using "freedom of religion" as its battering ram of our door.

Have you noted what's happened in Sweden and in other parts of Europe and Asia?

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   15:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete, liberator (#39)

She took conservative stands early,and kept taking them until she had been slapped down

What conserative stands did she take? What were her concrete views on islam or on economics? I don't remember any. You talk about her being slapped down, poor girl. Were you a witness to it or is it just speculation on your part?

I have work to do. I'll be back when I return.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-27   15:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: rlk, sneakypete (#43)

What conserative stands did she take? What were her concrete views on islam or on economics? I don't remember any.

Look it up. Sorry -- I don't have the time.

Palin obviously resonated emotionally with conservative/Republicans big-time.

You talk about her being slapped down, poor girl. Were you a witness to it or is it just speculation on your part?

HA! "Speculation"?? IF you were following the bouncing ball (and it's obvious you either weren't OR just can't remember), the lib-media, the RNC, and McCain's own campaign staff (led by Nicole Wallace, Steve Schmidt) undermined, ridiculed, and colluded with the Dems. McCain NEVER supported Palin or excoriated his staff for stabbing Palin in the back. And you can't remember that??

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   15:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Liberator, jeremiad, buckeroo, ALL (#40)

Maybe you've misunderstood our position here.

Jeremiad was merely pointing out the HYPOCRISY of the fedgoob in the case of the Davidians and reaction of respective perceived "threat" of Davidians vs. Muzzies.

If that is the case I did misunderstand the point,and apologize for my misunderstanding.

The Muzzies have declared war on America. Their cult fundamentally opposes all that America represents as well as our laws.

And here is where your train leaves the tracks again,and I am not so sure that I am the one that doesn't understand the situation.

What you are proposing amounts to a skate board on a slippery slope. SOME Muslims have declared war on America. Actually on the whole world.

"Their CULT" is also a misnomer,because they are as fragmented as the Protestants and Catholics with their various sects/orders. Hell,they are even worse because it has been hundreds of years now since the Protestants and the Catholics were running around murdering each other in the name of Gawd. Providing you overlook Ireland,that is. Even then it might be more of a case of them just looking for an excuse to fight each other. The Irish are not a peaceable people by nature.

Yeah,I know that I personally use the word "cult"a lot when bumping noses with True Believers here and on other political web sites,but the purpose of this is to try to make some of those cretins understand that no matter how much THEY rant and rave about other denominations being cults,other denominations consider THEM to be cults,too. The end result if they get their desires met and get the True Believers from other denominations/faiths designated as Cultists and given outlaw status is that once you start casting THAT net,you will find it becomes a VERY big net,indeed. You will eventually find yourself caught in it unless you become very,very quiet.

Please think of this the next time you go off on a rant about how Mormons,Quakers,etc,etc,etc are "cult members" and their churches/whatevers shouldn't get tax breaks or be protected by law.

And don't forget that any law passed to affect the Muslim religion can also be brought to bear on YOUR religion and YOUR family.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   16:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#42) (Edited)

Does the equation change if it's discovered that American Mosques have provided cover (as they do in other parts of the world) and been the epicenters for plans to disrupt and terrorize America?

No. Not as long as you are lumping ALL Mosques together.

Nail an individual mosque,or even a group of connected mosques like the Wahhabi Mosques planted here by the Sauds,and you are on solid ground. Anyone that has paid the slightest bit of attention to this issue understands the Wahhabi's are dedicated to the destruction and domination of our country,and are as much of a foreign and military power as they are religious centers.

Lumping all branches of any religion together for the purpose of having the government take action against them is establishing a very bad and very dangerous precedent.

But of course the Wahhabi's are a protected species in this country because they own so much stock in so many alleged US corporations they could collapse our economy by dumping all their stocks on othe same day,and because they own so many US politicians lock,stock,and barrel.

Hell,15 of the 19 hijackers on 9-11 were from Saudi Arabia,and just look at what happened in the aftermath. We invaded Iraq and hanged Hussein,and he and Iraq were responsible for killing more Wahhabi's that every other nation in the world combined.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   16:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: rlk (#43)

What conserative stands did she take? What were her concrete views on islam or on economics?

I ain't your daddy. Look them up yourself.

I don't remember any.

And how is that MY fault. Educate yourself and then get back to me.

You talk about her being slapped down, poor girl. Were you a witness to it or is it just speculation on your part?

The CLEAR implication was that she was verbally put in her place. If you can't understand that,maybe you need to prescribe yourself some meds.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   16:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: BobCeleste (#28)

Hey, it is a book, not a historically accurate report, seems all the secular world non Christians are busy writing Christian books, so I figured I would fill the gap.

That's why I referred to the plot for the book. Fiction need not be historically accurate but should usually be rationally believable. A group of marines taking out the congressional leadership and then gaining access to the Prez and VP may be difficult to write.

The Christian books I linked to work a similar area. The first series progresses to a coalition of states, with Texas Republican Senator Paul Randall in a leadership role, fighting against Washington, D.C. and the Federal government.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-27   17:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#45)

SOME Muslims have declared war on America. Actually on the whole world.

And here is where your train leaves the tracks again,and I am not so sure that I am the one that doesn't understand the situation.

"Some" Muslims is true.

Unfortunately though, opposing certain parts of the Koran mean disloyalty betrayal of fidelity to Allah. As both past and present history have proven, those who fail to adhere to the principles of the Koran ultimately pay the ultimate price: Their mortal life. The same is true of unbelievers, called "Infidels." They are ultimately deemed expendable...as in exterminated....as in murdered. UNLESS they convert and submit. At NO time in history has Islam's tenets and principle changed. As reward for such fidelity to fundamental Islam (and its barabarism and cold-blood murder) is as we know, lie 70-something virgins in Allah's "Heaven."

What you are proposing amounts to a skate board on a slippery slope. SOME Muslims have declared war on America. Actually on the whole world.

It is a "slippery slope." Unfortunately it's a 1300 year old slope that is unavoidable and must be addressed sooner or later.

"Their CULT" is also a misnomer,because they are as fragmented as the Protestants and Catholics with their various sects/orders.

The degree of "fragmentation" does nor define the Death "Cult" of Islam; It's fidelity to its own "laws" and that of its author defines and indicts it.

Islam is a Death Cult. Proven track record. Past and present.Why so? Because the Koran endorses and encourages the murder of infidels as a matter of fidelity to their God (Allah) and Book of Instruction (The Koran.) Neither Catholicism OR Protestantism endorse, encourage or promote as a matter of fidelity to their (our) God and Book of Instruction (The Bible.)

The definition of "Cult" in proper context:

"A religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous."
(A criteria for a definition that has been met with bells and whistles.)

The definition of "Cult" is clear with respect to Islam, it's "Holy Book," as well as the black and white difference between Muhammad and Jesus Christ.

It does not surprise me that some call evil "good" or good "evil." THAT in itself creates a different kind of "Cult."

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   17:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete (#46)

Nail an individual mosque,or even a group of connected mosques like the Wahhabi Mosques planted here by the Sauds,and you are on solid ground. Anyone that has paid the slightest bit of attention to this issue understands the Wahhabi's are dedicated to the destruction and domination of our country,and are as much of a foreign and military power as they are religious centers.

Lumping all branches of any religion together for the purpose of having the government take action against them is establishing a very bad and very dangerous precedent.

Most savvy observers know that Mosques are used as protective shields to cloak themselves from any official scrutiny. Most savvy observers also realize there are subversively active Muslim cells at work as we speak. All of them? Of course not. A number that endangers everyday Americans? Undoubtedly.

So do we just wait for water supplies to be poisoned? Malls and stadiums to be blown up? Drones to explode upon place, people, and things? These are people who believe they are REWARDED for mass murder. There are no other people like this on the planet.

Yes, there is an ethical and moral conundrum in indicting as potential "terrorist" those Mosques and Muslims who do not subscribe totally to that of its brethren. Then again, we note over and over again the Muzzie vs. Muzzie till death. One partial solution is a moritorium on Muslim immigrants.

THAT said, the one commonality and law ALL Muslims are compelled to adhere to is...The Koran. ALL of it. Regardless of whether they are Wahhabi, Shiite, Sunni, etc.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   17:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Liberator (#50)

Good synopsis of islam. Did Palin say that?

rlk  posted on  2015-07-27   19:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: sneakypete (#47) (Edited)

The CLEAR implication was that she was verbally put in her place.

I'm not at the beaten down stage of life that I view your fantasy implications unfounded by evidence as fact. Neither do I find anything she has said since leaving the McCain campaign supportive of your fantasies. The woman is an intellectually uncomitted lightweight pushed way above her level of competence by a group of superannuated adoring teenagers. She's strictly minor league.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-27   19:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Liberator (#49)

It is a "slippery slope." Unfortunately it's a 1300 year old slope that is unavoidable and must be addressed sooner or later.

True,but it can be address right NOW by focusing on the Wahhabi Mosques. Do that and you have most of the problem comvered.

We both know that won't happen though because the Sauds are the ones building and manning them,and the Sauds own controlling interest in our political system.

Islam is a Death Cult. Proven track record. Past and present.Why so? Because the Koran endorses and encourages the murder of infidels as a matter of fidelity to their God

The same can truthfully be said about the Catholic Church of the Middle Ages,and even some orders today.

The trick,as always,is to focu on where the trouble comes from instead of spreading your net so wide most of your effort goes into investigating groups who are innocent. Once again,the "Liberation Theology" sects of the Catholic Church all support violent communist revolution and control,but it would not be true to make a broad statement like "All Catholics are communist revolutionaries."

The definition of "Cult" in proper context:

"A religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous."

Very true,but in the real world it is defined as "any set of religious beliefs my sect doesn't follow." How many people did you hear calling the Mormons a cult when Romney was running? I have personally had a Catholic Priest tell me Methodism was a cult. As a general rule,everybody thinks everybody else belongs to a cult. They might not say it out loud in front of strangers,but that is what most of them thing.

Which is fine. This is a free country and you are free to think anything you want. You just don't have the right to try to harm them because you disagree with their beliefs.

The definition of "Cult" is clear with respect to Islam, it's "Holy Book," as well as the black and white difference between Muhammad and Jesus Christ.

I happen to believe that myself,but I freely admit I am prejudiced against Muslims for all the reasons you list. That doesn't mean that our government should treat them differently than they treat us unless giving specific justification.

I would never think of harming a Muslim not bothering me purely because he or she is a Muslim. On the other hand,if one attacks me they can definitely kiss their asses goodbye because I will show them no mercy. Maybe that's wrong,but nobody is perfect,including me. PLUS....,*I* AM NOT THE GOVERNMENT. It's the government that is supposed to treat all citizens equally. We citizens are free to make up our own damn minds who we like and who we don't like.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   21:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Liberator (#50)

Most savvy observers know that Mosques are used as protective shields to cloak themselves from any official scrutiny. Most savvy observers also realize there are subversively active Muslim cells at work as we speak.

Most savvy observers have noted there are many Catholic orders the same can be said about.

Do you want the government to start attacking Catholic churches?

The same can be said about some Protestant splinter organizations.

One partial solution is a moritorium on Muslim immigrants.

No question about that being true,and it is ever Constitutional because immigrants are not citizens,and do not have the same rights as citizens.

I don't have the right to demand that all Americans follow the Constitution and never deny anyone their rights. The jury system can be left to sort out right from wrong when it comes to citizen involvement.

I DO demand the freaking government obey the laws,thouugh.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   21:09:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: rlk (#52)

Neither do I find anything she has said since leaving the McCain campaign supportive of your fantasies.

PLEASE point out to me where I have EVER written anything positive about her actions or statements since the campaign to elect McLunatic ended.

Thank you.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   21:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: sneakypete (#55)

PLEASE point out to me where I have EVER written anything positive about her actions or statements since the campaign to elect McLunatic ended.

You spend a large portion of a thread describing her as a wronged Joan of arc then make that comment. Apparently you are incapable of seeing contradictions. Have you been taking Obama lessons?

rlk  posted on  2015-07-28   1:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#36)

WHEN is it proper?

WHEN is it proper?

It is right and proper when overwhelming evidence exists that the cult of Islam is not only planning attacks, teaching converts and children to hate and attack, but has already killed thousands on American streets. If and when Catholics do that, should they not be rounded up and shut down?

jeremiad  posted on  2015-07-28   9:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: rlk (#56)

You spend a large portion of a thread describing her as a wronged Joan of arc then make that comment. Apparently you are incapable of seeing contradictions. Have you been taking Obama lessons?

Robert,I am not responsible for either your insecurities or your senility.

EVERY comment I made about her on this thread was related to the McLunatic presidential campaign and her actions as the VP candidate.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-28   9:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: jeremiad (#57)

WHEN is it proper?

It is right and proper when overwhelming evidence exists that the cult of Islam is not only planning attacks, teaching converts and children to hate and attack, but has already killed thousands on American streets. If and when Catholics do that, should they not be rounded up and shut down?

Catholics in the US DID do that back when "the troubles" were still going on in northern Ireland. The vast majority of their support in both weapons and cash came from American Catholics. The IRA even came to the US and held fundraisers.

Please remind me when they were ever rounded up and shut down.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-28   9:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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