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Title: STUNNING=> Obama Gives Turkey Green Light to Bomb Former US Soldiers Fighting ISIS
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Published: Jul 26, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-07-26 22:39:19 by A K A Stone
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

You can thank John McCain for all of this mess. You wanted him as a US President at one tyme, didn't you?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-26   22:42:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1)

You can thank John McCain for all of this mess. You wanted him as a US President at one tyme, didn't you?

No we had this discussion before. Remember I told you I wanted Sarah Palin as President.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   22:45:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

LQQKs to me, that you have a lot "wants" that have never materialized. It isn't your fault, either. You were brought up on the notion of the tooth faerie or the Great Pumpkin can save you.

Now, you have changed your tune to The Donald. Good luck! He wants to bomb the ME into oblivion.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-26   22:54:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#3)

Good luck! He wants to bomb the ME into oblivion.

If he can get rid of the Muslims then good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   22:57:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#5)

what if he chooses that tactic in sovereign America to eliminate all the mosques and their worshippers?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-26   22:59:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#6)

A simple declaration that Islam is no longer a religion but a cult. The Branch Davidians were so dangerous we firebomb them but not Muslims?

jeremiad  posted on  2015-07-27   0:45:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: jeremiad, buckeroo (#15)

A simple declaration that Islam is no longer a religion but a cult. The Branch Davidians were so dangerous we firebomb them but not Muslims?

+1000!

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   14:34:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator, jeremiad, buckeroo, ALL, *Religious History and Issues* (#27)

A simple declaration that Islam is no longer a religion but a cult. The Branch Davidians were so dangerous we firebomb them but not Muslims?

+1000!

Has it never occurred to you people that it was WRONG for the GOVERNMENT to declare the Davidians as a cult,and that there was and is no excuse for the government murdering them because they held different religious viewpoints than the majority?

PLEASE keep in mind that any government that has the power to declare the Dravidians a cult and take police state action against them that results in them being murdered ALSO has the power to declare Catholics,Protestants,or anyone else a cult and do the same thing to them?

Since WHEN is it proper in America to have the government murder or arrest people for holding unpopular religious beliefs?

Yes,you and I can call any and every religion a cult if we want,but WE are NOT the government. Big,BIG difference.

Be VERY careful what you ask for,lest you get it.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   14:55:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete, jeremiad, buckeroo, ALL (#36) (Edited)

Has it never occurred to you people that it was WRONG for the GOVERNMENT to declare the Davidians as a cult,and that there was and is no excuse for the government murdering them because they held different religious viewpoints than the majority?...

YES And yes.

Maybe you've misunderstood our position here.

Jeremiad was merely pointing out the HYPOCRISY of the fedgoob in the case of the Davidians and reaction of respective perceived "threat" of Davidians vs. Muzzies.

The Muzzies have declared war on America. Their cult fundamentally opposes all that America represents as well as our laws. Sharia Law and a Caliphate is their *stated* goal. Their acts of terrorism demonstratively prove this point. OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.

I don't believe America ought to live in a Caliphate and under Sharia Law. There are few options in addressing this.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   15:06:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Liberator, jeremiad, buckeroo, ALL (#40)

Maybe you've misunderstood our position here.

Jeremiad was merely pointing out the HYPOCRISY of the fedgoob in the case of the Davidians and reaction of respective perceived "threat" of Davidians vs. Muzzies.

If that is the case I did misunderstand the point,and apologize for my misunderstanding.

The Muzzies have declared war on America. Their cult fundamentally opposes all that America represents as well as our laws.

And here is where your train leaves the tracks again,and I am not so sure that I am the one that doesn't understand the situation.

What you are proposing amounts to a skate board on a slippery slope. SOME Muslims have declared war on America. Actually on the whole world.

"Their CULT" is also a misnomer,because they are as fragmented as the Protestants and Catholics with their various sects/orders. Hell,they are even worse because it has been hundreds of years now since the Protestants and the Catholics were running around murdering each other in the name of Gawd. Providing you overlook Ireland,that is. Even then it might be more of a case of them just looking for an excuse to fight each other. The Irish are not a peaceable people by nature.

Yeah,I know that I personally use the word "cult"a lot when bumping noses with True Believers here and on other political web sites,but the purpose of this is to try to make some of those cretins understand that no matter how much THEY rant and rave about other denominations being cults,other denominations consider THEM to be cults,too. The end result if they get their desires met and get the True Believers from other denominations/faiths designated as Cultists and given outlaw status is that once you start casting THAT net,you will find it becomes a VERY big net,indeed. You will eventually find yourself caught in it unless you become very,very quiet.

Please think of this the next time you go off on a rant about how Mormons,Quakers,etc,etc,etc are "cult members" and their churches/whatevers shouldn't get tax breaks or be protected by law.

And don't forget that any law passed to affect the Muslim religion can also be brought to bear on YOUR religion and YOUR family.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27   16:46:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#45)

SOME Muslims have declared war on America. Actually on the whole world.

And here is where your train leaves the tracks again,and I am not so sure that I am the one that doesn't understand the situation.

"Some" Muslims is true.

Unfortunately though, opposing certain parts of the Koran mean disloyalty betrayal of fidelity to Allah. As both past and present history have proven, those who fail to adhere to the principles of the Koran ultimately pay the ultimate price: Their mortal life. The same is true of unbelievers, called "Infidels." They are ultimately deemed expendable...as in exterminated....as in murdered. UNLESS they convert and submit. At NO time in history has Islam's tenets and principle changed. As reward for such fidelity to fundamental Islam (and its barabarism and cold-blood murder) is as we know, lie 70-something virgins in Allah's "Heaven."

What you are proposing amounts to a skate board on a slippery slope. SOME Muslims have declared war on America. Actually on the whole world.

It is a "slippery slope." Unfortunately it's a 1300 year old slope that is unavoidable and must be addressed sooner or later.

"Their CULT" is also a misnomer,because they are as fragmented as the Protestants and Catholics with their various sects/orders.

The degree of "fragmentation" does nor define the Death "Cult" of Islam; It's fidelity to its own "laws" and that of its author defines and indicts it.

Islam is a Death Cult. Proven track record. Past and present.Why so? Because the Koran endorses and encourages the murder of infidels as a matter of fidelity to their God (Allah) and Book of Instruction (The Koran.) Neither Catholicism OR Protestantism endorse, encourage or promote as a matter of fidelity to their (our) God and Book of Instruction (The Bible.)

The definition of "Cult" in proper context:

"A religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous."
(A criteria for a definition that has been met with bells and whistles.)

The definition of "Cult" is clear with respect to Islam, it's "Holy Book," as well as the black and white difference between Muhammad and Jesus Christ.

It does not surprise me that some call evil "good" or good "evil." THAT in itself creates a different kind of "Cult."

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-27   17:41:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#53. To: Liberator (#49)

It is a "slippery slope." Unfortunately it's a 1300 year old slope that is unavoidable and must be addressed sooner or later.

True,but it can be address right NOW by focusing on the Wahhabi Mosques. Do that and you have most of the problem comvered.

We both know that won't happen though because the Sauds are the ones building and manning them,and the Sauds own controlling interest in our political system.

Islam is a Death Cult. Proven track record. Past and present.Why so? Because the Koran endorses and encourages the murder of infidels as a matter of fidelity to their God

The same can truthfully be said about the Catholic Church of the Middle Ages,and even some orders today.

The trick,as always,is to focu on where the trouble comes from instead of spreading your net so wide most of your effort goes into investigating groups who are innocent. Once again,the "Liberation Theology" sects of the Catholic Church all support violent communist revolution and control,but it would not be true to make a broad statement like "All Catholics are communist revolutionaries."

The definition of "Cult" in proper context:

"A religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous."

Very true,but in the real world it is defined as "any set of religious beliefs my sect doesn't follow." How many people did you hear calling the Mormons a cult when Romney was running? I have personally had a Catholic Priest tell me Methodism was a cult. As a general rule,everybody thinks everybody else belongs to a cult. They might not say it out loud in front of strangers,but that is what most of them thing.

Which is fine. This is a free country and you are free to think anything you want. You just don't have the right to try to harm them because you disagree with their beliefs.

The definition of "Cult" is clear with respect to Islam, it's "Holy Book," as well as the black and white difference between Muhammad and Jesus Christ.

I happen to believe that myself,but I freely admit I am prejudiced against Muslims for all the reasons you list. That doesn't mean that our government should treat them differently than they treat us unless giving specific justification.

I would never think of harming a Muslim not bothering me purely because he or she is a Muslim. On the other hand,if one attacks me they can definitely kiss their asses goodbye because I will show them no mercy. Maybe that's wrong,but nobody is perfect,including me. PLUS....,*I* AM NOT THE GOVERNMENT. It's the government that is supposed to treat all citizens equally. We citizens are free to make up our own damn minds who we like and who we don't like.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-27 21:04:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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