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Title: 'Six Californias' plan may make 2016 ballot (leaving Cali without going anywhere)
Source: USA TODAY
URL Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/ ... draper/12661161/?csp=fbfanpage
Published: Jul 21, 2015
Author: Laura Mandaro
Post Date: 2015-07-21 20:42:17 by Hondo68
Keywords: Movin on up, finally got a, piece of the pie
Views: 2687
Comments: 22

Six Californias plan

A proposal backed by venture capitalist Tim Draper to divide California into six states has received enough signatures to make the November 2016 ballot, according to the non-profit Six Californias. Here's how the plan would divide the state:

Sources: USA TODAY research
Kevin A. Kepple, Anne R.Carey, Denny Gainer and Paul Overberg, USA TODAY

Draper and other supporters of the break-up argue that the state's 38 million people would be better served by smaller governments and elected officials who would be able to work more closely with their constituents.

"If we have six Californias and we in effect dissolve the one we've got, those six allow us a new start," Draper says in a video posted on the Six Californias website. Each state, which would have its own capital and legislature, would be able to write its own constitution.

The six carved out states would look like this:

  • Jefferson: The northern part of the state, including Humboldt and Mendocino counties.
  • North California: The wine country counties of Sonoma and Napa, as well as the Sierra Nevada region.
  • Silicon Valley: Including San Francisco, San Jose and most of what's considered the San Francisco Bay Area.
  • Central California: The vast central valley farm region, including Tulare and Fresno counties.
  • West California: Including Santa Barbara and Los Angeles.
  • South California: Including what's called the Inland Empire of San Bernadino and Riverside, plus San Diego.

The plan has met with resistance from California's Democratic majority, and a Field Poll found 59% of Californians surveyed were against the plan, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

Democratic strategist Steven Maviglio didn't mince words criticizing the plan. He tweeted Monday:

But interest in the plan has been strong enough to send Draper and his campaigners to Sacramento — for now, the one and only capital of California.

A proposal backed by nonprofit organization Six Californias to divide California into six states has received enough signatures to make the November 2016 ballot, but others say it's not a practical plan.


Poster Comment:

Goodbye to all of the fruits and nuts, I'm outta here, Seceded!

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Goodbye to all of the fruits and nuts, I'm outta here, Seceded!

And who want California to have 12 senators?

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-21   23:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

'Six Californias' plan may make 2016 ballot

Breaking up California would free certain areas from domination from the nuttiness and the dingbat governers such as Brown that more degenerate areas inflict upon the remainder of the state.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-21   23:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu chan (#1)

And who want California to have 12 senators?

38,000,000 Californians?

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-07-22   6:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#0)

Hope it goes through.

Up next: Break the USA up into 6 different countries.

THAT would be something great.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-07-22   6:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#4)

" Break the USA up into 6 different countries "

That will probably eventually happen.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-22   15:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite (#3)

38,000,000 Californians?

They may encounter a few trubs getting the other states in Congress to go along with giving the land of fruits and nuts 10 more senators.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-22   17:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#6)

I'm sure the requirement of extra office space and desks in the Capital building will be the real deal killer.

Not to mention what it would do to the US flag.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-07-23   2:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rlk (#2)

Breaking up California would free certain areas from domination from the nuttiness

And after 25 years of kookifornian influence, instead of one libtard state, we'll have six more.

You wanna escape the madness of libtard, over taxed and over regulated shithole kookifornia?.... MOVE TO ANOTHER STATE.

You can't fix libtarism by staying and funding it, even if you break it up in 7 parts. You'll only beat libtardism by BANKRUPTING IT... and you will do that if every tax paying non libtard moves from kookifornia and leaves behind just illegals, welfare and criminals. The most left of the workers won't be able to sustain such an economy... but they are right now, with heavy deficits, with your help. BY STAYING.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-23   8:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland (#8)

You can't fix libtarism by staying and funding it, even if you break it up in 7 parts. You'll only beat libtardism by BANKRUPTING IT... and you will do that if every tax paying non libtard moves from kookifornia and leaves behind just illegals, welfare and criminals. The most left of the workers won't be able to sustain such an economy... but they are right now, with heavy deficits, with your help. BY STAYING.

The problem with the idea of letting California implode financially is this: The Ruling Class will not let it happen.

Like GM, California is "too big to fail."

And the US still has a large pool of taxpayers who's pockets can be picked to bail California out.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-07-23   8:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rufus T Firefly (#9)

Like, Greece, if kookifornia gets bailed out, then so be it. It will need re-bailing quicker each time a bandaid is applied instead of fixing the gushing wound. It still doesn't make the idea of all of Americas fed up working class all relocating to 3 or 4 states... and from their can break away from the Libtard madness, in a bigger, more intelligent move then breaking up a libtard shithole in 6 parts.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-23   10:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: GrandIsland, Rufus T Firefly (#10)

ike, Greece, if kookifornia gets bailed out,

California has a SURPLUS.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/us/with-surplus-in-hand-california-eyes-debt.html?_r=0

Ever since he came into office, Gov. Jerry Brown has promised to address what he has long called the state’s “wall of debt” built up over years. And now that the nation’s most populous state is looking at a multibillion-dollar surplus, Mr. Brown, in a $155 billion state budget proposal submitted on Thursday, is pledging to make good on that promise.

Pericles  posted on  2015-07-23   10:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pericles (#11)

Ever since he came into office, Gov. Jerry Brown has promised to address what he has long called the state’s “wall of debt” built up over years. And now that the nation’s most populous state is looking at a multibillion-dollar surplus, Mr. Brown, in a $155 billion state budget proposal submitted on Thursday, is pledging to make good on that promise.

Your bullshit is the same skewed playing with numbers the Feds to with unemployment stats. Wake the fuck up and smell your libtard coffee.

Kookifornia is actually 443 BILLION in debt... aside from all the budget gimmicks that you libtards actually fall for.

"According to Governor Brown’s 2014-15 proposed budget, California’s Wall of Debt amounts to $26.2 billion and largely includes short-term debts incurred since 2007-08. These debts include postponed payments to schools, community colleges, and California’s Medicaid program (Medi-Cal). Among these debts are the “deferral of state payroll costs from June to July,” an accounting gimmick that appears to reduce the year’s overall payroll costs by delaying and pushing those payments into the next fiscal year. Another opaque budget approach included temporarily shifting money from dedicated funding pools called Special Funds to pay for other areas of the budget. Ultimately, such accounting gimmicks obscure a government’s true financial condition and undermine fiscal transparency by limiting the public’s ability to fairly and accurately evaluate the state’s budgetary and fiscal health. For example, the state has repeatedly resorted to borrowing from internal pools of money to “balance the budget.” On paper and in reality, this type of gimmick misrepresents actual costs to citizens, the media, departments, and policymakers."

Slap yourself. That shithole overspent over the last 75 years.... and they'll never reach ZERO until it implodes.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-23   11:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GrandIsland (#12) (Edited)

Gov moonbeam produced a surplus after years of Republican mis-rule.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-09/california-s-brown-urges-caution-as-record-revenue-swells-budget

January 9, 2015 — 12:01 AM EST Bloomberg

(Bloomberg) -- California Governor Jerry Brown is faced with a dilemma other leaders would love to have as he releases his budget today: what to do with record tax revenue expected to leave the most populous U.S. state with a growing surplus.

The state’s nonpartisan Legislative Analyst’s Office projects California will take in at least $2 billion more in revenue this fiscal year than what is estimated in the budget. That has lawmakers from Brown’s Democratic party calling on the 76-year-old governor to spend more on safety-net programs and other priorities. Brown urges caution, pointing out that most of the additional revenue must by law go to public schools.

“The state budget, after a decade of fiscal turbulence, is finally balanced -- more precariously than I would like - but balanced,” Brown told lawmakers earlier this week in his annual state of the state speech.

Pericles  posted on  2015-07-23   11:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan (#1)

And who want California to have 12 senators?

EXACTLY!

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.---John 1:17

redleghunter  posted on  2015-07-23   11:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: GrandIsland (#8)

And after 25 years of kookifornian influence, instead of one libtard state, we'll have six more.

California is so big I believe it has a very diverse political sentiments that vary with geography, so some of those 10 additional senators, perhaps most of them, would likely have conservative sentiments.

.... for whatever that is worth. Supposed "conservatives" have been behind the wars started under Bush and continued under Obama, in the name of "might makes right" America.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-07-23   12:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pericles (#13)

“The state budget, after a decade of fiscal turbulence, is finally balanced

They still owe over 400 BILLION... because of past out of control libtard spending.

Kookifornia is in the RED, whether you want to admit it or not.

And don't forget, kookifornia is one of the highest taxed state in the 50. You assholes are doomed.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-23   15:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GrandIsland (#16)

They still owe over 400 BILLION... because of past out of control libtard spending.

Kookifornia is in the RED, whether you want to admit it or not.

Like when they got rid of the Republicans in the White House and balanced the budget under Clinton it will take time to undo the damage Arnold and his party did.

Pericles  posted on  2015-07-23   16:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pericles, GrandIsland, Rufus T Firefly (#11)

California has a SURPLUS.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html

The California debt, as we speak, is over $427 Billion.

It's revenue is over $407B and its spending is over $430B.

It debt to GDP ratio is over 18.25%.

http://cacs.org/research/unsustainable-california-the-top-10-issues-facing-the-golden-state-wall-of-debt/

Unsustainable California: The Top 10 Issues Facing the Golden State – Wall of Debt

By Autumn Carter | June 11, 2014

In Brief

California’s actual “Wall of Debt” is an estimated $443 billion, much larger than the $26.2 billion frequently cited by officials and the media. Introduction

Over the last decade, California amassed extensive debt that it will have to repay over the coming decades. More recently, the state government and media began referring to the state’s billions of dollars of mounting debts as a “Wall of Debt.” Generally, state officials and the media depict that “wall” as $26.2 billion, far smaller than it actually is. California’s actual wall of debt is $443 billion.

The state’s complete and growing Wall of Debt reflects unsustainable budgeting practices. As its repayment costs rise and shift to later generations, the Wall will redirect spending away from critical public services. Significantly reducing its size is crucial to securing the state’s fiscal health and eliminating year-to-year budgeting gimmicks that mask deeper underlying challenges.

Furthermore, aggressively excluding long-term liabilities (such as those for public employee pensions) from debt discussions is dangerous to citizens and policymakers, alike. While the state does acknowledge its long-term liabilities, it generally fails to treat them as “debt.” Governor Jerry Brown argues that “it is critical that the state develop a plan to address these liabilities which will crowd out the state’s ability to take on new ongoing commitments.” However, refusing to include these critical liabilities in the official Wall of Debt can greatly diminish its significance in the mind of many voters and policymakers.

Reassessing the “Wall of Debt”

According to Governor Brown’s 2014-15 proposed budget, California’s Wall of Debt amounts to $26.2 billion and largely includes short-term debts incurred since 2007-08. These debts include postponed payments to schools, community colleges, and California’s Medicaid program (Medi-Cal).

Among these debts are the “deferral of state payroll costs from June to July,” an accounting gimmick that appears to reduce the year’s overall payroll costs by delaying and pushing those payments into the next fiscal year. Another opaque budget approach included temporarily shifting money from dedicated funding pools called Special Funds to pay for other areas of the budget.

[snip]

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-23   16:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: nolu chan (#18) (Edited)

According to Governor Brown’s 2014-15 proposed budget, California’s Wall of Debt amounts to $26.2 billion and largely includes short-term debts incurred since 2007-08. These debts include postponed payments to schools, community colleges, and California’s Medicaid program (Medi-Cal).

Among these debts are the “deferral of state payroll costs from June to July,” an accounting gimmick that appears to reduce the year’s overall payroll costs by delaying and pushing those payments into the next fiscal year. Another opaque budget approach included temporarily shifting money from dedicated funding pools called Special Funds to pay for other areas of the budget.

I already posted this up in post 12... but Pericles is too libtarded to understand debt... and when faced with the cold hard fact, Pericles will blame the whole problem on one past republican... like O'bunghole does with Bush.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-23   18:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: GrandIsland (#19)

Yeah, proposed budgets are like fairy tales. The end of year balance sheet tells a different tale.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-23   18:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: nolu chan (#20)

Yeah, proposed budgets are like fairy tales. The end of year balance sheet tells a different tale.

Liberals live in fairy tales... Unemployment is down, a million new jobs... 200.00 bucks and I'll sell you a bridge.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-23   18:31:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: GrandIsland (#21)

200.00 bucks and I'll sell you a bridge

I'll take the Guinea Gangplank for $200.

The Federal debt went down in 1957 under Eisenhower. That is the last time it went down, the Clinton "surpluses" notwithstanding. Both parties have spent more than they took in for nearly 60 consecutive years.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-23   18:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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