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Title: nolu chan contends an amendment to repeal the 2nd Amdt could be passed
Source: LF
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jul 9, 2015
Author: tpaine
Post Date: 2015-07-09 10:39:45 by tpaine
Keywords: None
Views: 70902
Comments: 255

The Congress proposes, and three-fourths of the states ratify the following amendment

AMENDMENT 28.

Section 1. The second article of amendment is hereby repealed.

Section 2. The individual right to keep and bear, buy, make, and use arms is limited to .22 caliber handguns only.

Section 3. All non-conforming guns must be surrendered to government authorities or destroyed within 30 days of ratification of this amendment.

Section 4. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


Poster Comment: During a discussion with Nolu Chan, he asserted that an amendment repealing the 2nd could be ratified, and become a valid part of our Constitution. I contend such an amendment would be unconstitutional. Comments?

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#54. To: tpaine, Nolu Chan, liberator, A K A Stone (#0)

During a discussion with Nolu Chan, he asserted that an amendment repealing the 2nd could be ratified, and become a valid part of our Constitution. I contend such an amendment would be unconstitutional. Comments?

First off, creating a vanity thread to call out another poster is bad manners.

Second, I looked at comments so far and one of two possibilities are evident:

1. Chan is showing restraint and dignity in not responding to your carnival barking.

or

2. His response is forthcoming and no doubt he will hand you your 4th point of contact (for the civilians in the room the 4th point of contact is what you sit on; for paratroopers it is the 'fourth point' of the body hitting the ground in a 'dynamite' parachute landing fall [PLF])

redleghunter  posted on  2015-07-09   17:26:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: redleghunter (#54)

During a discussion with Nolu Chan, he asserted that an amendment repealing the 2nd could be ratified, and become a valid part of our Constitution. I contend such an amendment would be unconstitutional. Comments?

First off, creating a vanity thread to call out another poster is bad manners.

That's your opinion, and I see you've pinged AKA Stone to give us his, --- but I think we're here to discuss the issues of the day, and Chan has certainly raised one by insisting the 2nd could be repealed.

Second, I looked at comments so far and one of two possibilities are evident: - -- 1. Chan is showing restraint and dignity in not responding to your carnival barking. --- or ---- 2. His response is forthcoming and no doubt he will hand you your 4th point of contact (for the civilians in the room the 4th point of contact is what you sit on; for paratroopers it is the 'fourth point' of the body hitting the ground in a 'dynamite' parachute landing fall [PLF])

I served a couple of years in the 503rd and 502nd regiments, so your attempts to instruct me about 'PLF' is as silly as your "carnival barking" about this thread.

By all means, come back when you have a real point to discuss..

tpaine  posted on  2015-07-09   20:35:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: tpaine, redleghunter, nolu chan (#61)

I said to you before that you need to listen to nolu chan.

I now say to you that you need to also listen to redleghunter.

It will be to your advantage to learn from them.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-07-09   20:44:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Gatlin (#62)

I said to you before that you need to listen to nolu chan.

I now say to you that you need to also listen to redleghunter.

It will be to your advantage to learn from them.

Never fear my boy, I'm learning a lot from all you authoritarians. -- And I'm sure others here are.

Probably, they're learning more about your politics than you want them to know..

tpaine  posted on  2015-07-09   21:04:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: tpaine (#64)

Nolu chan is right on this one. It wouldn't be right morally. But it would follow the process laid out in the constitution.

Remember the constitution isn't perfect. It is man made and contains flaws.

It is worth protecting.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-09   21:08:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#69. To: A K A Stone (#66)

Remember the constitution isn't perfect. It is man made and contains flaws.

Yeah! They tried to take away our rights to drinking whiskey; and they gave it back!

Now, if we can get rid of the fed.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-09 21:18:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone, tpaine (#66)

Nolu chan is right on this one. It wouldn't be right morally. But it would follow the process laid out in the constitution.

Remember the constitution isn't perfect. It is man made and contains flaws.

If the sovereign people do not have the power to change the organic law of the country as they choose, the Constitution and the government formed under it surely resulted from unlawful acts. The explanation of the power exercised is that the people are the sovereigns, and the sovereign answers to nobody. There is no guarantee they will act wisely.

It was definitely not done pursuant to the Articles of Confederation.

Article 13 of the Articles of Confederation:

Every State shall abide by the determination of the United States in Congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this Confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the Union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a Congress of the United States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-07-09 21:24:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: A K A Stone, nolu chan, Y'ALL (#66)

During a discussion with Nolu Chan, he asserted that an amendment repealing the 2nd could be ratified, and become a valid part of our Constitution. I contend such an amendment would be unconstitutional.

Nolu chan is right on this one.

I beg to differ. I think we have an unalienable right to keep and bear arms. -- I see nothing in the Constitution itself that says we could amendment away that right.

It wouldn't be right morally. But it would follow the process laid out in the constitution.

I've been asking Chan to point out where in the Constitution it allows a majority to repeal ANY of our basic inalienable rights. He can't quite find it. --- Can anyone??

Remember the constitution isn't perfect. It is man made and contains flaws. --- It is worth protecting.

We agree..

tpaine  posted on  2015-07-09 21:36:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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