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Title: See how ABC honors America
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Published: Jul 4, 2015
Author: Bob Celeste
Post Date: 2015-07-04 13:17:52 by BobCeleste
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#1. To: BobCeleste (#0)
F ABC !!!! They should be treated like everyone is treating the Confederate Flag. Any company that advertises on ABC, I will not buy their product! Si vis pacem, para bellum
Wow. The hot war on America BY the elites is....ON!
Okay - now my question is - not DOES - but HOW MUCH A valid question, I would think.
Any company that advertises on ABC, I will not buy their product! I agree, we have closed our Amazon account, our E bay account and my wife cancelled her Macy's card. We buy no perishables from Wally World and if there was a way around dealing with that pig running micro soft, I would do that too.
The hot war on America BY the elites is....ON! Not on America, just on we the people.
Chuck, I not only don't have an answer I'm not unsure how to find out. Perhaps asking the customer service dept of Com Cast may help.
American flag pins being all lapel pins and July 4th being in 2001 after 9/11. http://www.truthorfiction.com/abcflag/ Summary of eRumor: A boycott of the ABC television network is encouraged because the executives at ABC news are said to have told reporters they could not wear American flag lapel pins or any other patriotic insignia. The network said that ABC should remain as neutral as possible. The Truth: Rumors that ABC News has banned American flag lapel pins have been swirling ever since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The claim was based in truth at one time, but it has drifted more toward fiction over the years. The 9/11 attacks resulted in a wave of patriotism that had not been seen in decades. The shared enthusiasm for the country and flag were widespread. It created difficulties for reporters, however, who try to professionally earn and keep people’s trust by avoiding personal partisan displays while reporting in the news. Many media outlets struggled to preserve their image as journalists while at the same time appearing unpatriotic in a time of crisis. Some journalists elected to wear American flag lapel pins on air, and the debate started. CBS, NBC and CNN did not have a lapel pin policy in place before or after 9/11, the Orlando Sentinel reports. Reporters for those stations regularly wore American flag lapel pins on air while covering 9/11. When word got out that ABC News had “banned American flag lapel pins,” the network became a lightning rod for criticism. However, the eRumor began to drift away from the truth almost immediately. The network never specifically singled out American flag lapel pins — it prohibited its reporters from wearing any lapel pin on the air. http://www.snopes.com/rumors/noflags.asp FALSE. http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/abc_flag_pins.htm Description: Rumor / Viral message Example #1: Email text contributed by an AOL user, June 25, 2008: Yesterday, the brass at ABC News issued orders forbidding reporters to wear lapel pin American flags or other patriotic insignia. Their reasoning was that ABC should remain neutral about "causes". Since when is support for preventing our death & destruction some sort of a "cause"? Since when is patriotism to be discouraged. I urge you to boycott ABC and its sponsors and affiliates. And those that advertise with them. We’re slowly losing everything our country stands for, and everything our men and women fought and died to preserve. Please forward this to as many as you can. Analysis: Please note that when the message above says ABC News banned flag lapel pins "yesterday," it's referring to a date in 2001. This was not a recent event. And although it's true that ABC News instituted such a ban shortly after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, the network's stated reasons were more cogent than what is indicated above. According to ABC spokesman Jeffrey Schneider, the network saw it as necessary to protect its reporters' credibility, as well as their personal safety abroad. "We cannot signal through outward symbols how we feel, even if the cause is justified," he said in a statement to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "Overseas, it could be perceived that we're just mouthpieces for the U.S. government, and that can place our journalists in danger." FACT: Media have long had policies on not wearing flair on-air. By Carole Fader Mon, Jun 28, 2010 @ 4:45 am Times-Union readers want to know: Is it true that ABC has banned its employees from wearing flag pins? It’s baaaaaack. This chain e-mail is once again making the rounds of e-mail inboxes. It first appeared after the Sept, 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, when many Americans expressed their patriotism, and has cropped up from time to time since. It does not refer to a current event. Essentially, the e-mail is true. But a few clarifications must be made. Journalists usually do not wear pins, ribbons or any other symbol that might compromise their credibility as objective, impartial recorders of events. News departments of television stations have long had a practice or policy that on-air personnel should not display partisan adornments, including patriotic ones. After 9/11, Snopes.com reports, some network news journalists expressed a desire to bend that rule, setting off a national debate on the subject:
I am shocked at how easily old people are outraged by these spam false fact emails they get about some network being anti-flag or some such.
How old are you?
I assume if they're taken hostage they're not going to expect the U.S. government to save them either. OK. I think that's a fair trade.
Two questions and one comment. First, does ABC still have this policy in effect? "The network never specifically singled out American flag lapel pins — it prohibited its reporters from wearing any lapel pin on the air. " If yes, does it include US flag pins? My comment is this, snopes is no longer a trusted source when it comes to anything political. Thanks for a great report though.
I made sure the first source I cited was the one the article itself used as "THIS HAS BEEN VERIFIED THROUGH:" The link cited was not valid, but I found the working link and posted that. I have not experienced many problems with Snopes, but none of the sources is infallible. It does not appear that any ABC news hosts wear any lapel pins, but I could be wrong.
Thanks for a great report though. In my opinion. Mr. Chan is much more reliable at getting to just the facts then snopes.
People upset about not wearing a flag pin kind of reminds me of a Seinfeld episode where Kramer refused to wear an AIDS ribbon.
Me too, but I just wanted him to know that I do not accept snopes as a source on anything regarding politics and/or Religion, especially Christianity. Snopes has proven time and time again that they are more interested in parroting the line of the democrat and it's followers, than the truth.
I and my wife looked carefully last night to both the local ABC news and the national ABC news, neither of us saw any pins. Now, my analogy: When I was a kid, the RC church did not specifically deny people carrying in and using the KJV, they simply did not allow RC's to study any Bible. There reason was that it is to difficult for any but trained priest to understand. History tells us that the real reason was that when folks studied the Bible, they left Roman Catho9licism in droves, for they found that RC propaganda and dogma was in 90% of the cases in direct opposition to the Word of God and His word, the Bible. I think ABC is doing the same thing, in an effort to not look like traitors, they have banned all pins.
Certainly one of your most ridiculous analogies. You are equating honoring sodomites who have, by their own behavior, gotten a deadly disease with showing respect and honor for the symbol of the United States? Absolute nonsense.
Really? NBC did. They cancelled Trump over his immigration comments. Sure does look like they're taking a stand on a hot-button political issue.
So if they wore an American flag pin while attacking President Bush for the Iraq war - you would be OK with that?
I checked online pics of ABC news hosts and saw no pins. I have no problem with the policy. I can't see a public persona being more or less in favor of something because they do, or do not, wear some pin. Maybe my memory just differs, but I recollect that we were not supposed to read the KJV or any bible without the imprimatur, essentially just the Douay-Rheims Version. There was no modern English version back then. The Catholic school did not rely greatly on teaching from the bible, but rather from a catechism or missal. It may be accurate that history so indicates, but I honestly do not know if droves of Roman Catholics read the bible or left for that or some other reason.
Chan - This has been floating around for some time now. Have you ever found any truth to this? Why do you think it keeps perpetuating?
According to ABC spokesman Jeffrey Schneider, the network saw it as necessary to protect its reporters' credibility, as well as their personal safety abroad. "We cannot signal through outward symbols how we feel, even if the cause is justified," he said in a statement to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "Overseas, it could be perceived that we're just mouthpieces for the U.S. government, and that can place our journalists in danger." Just to clarify, your quote was of ABC spokesman Jeffrey Schneider. Making a business decision is not the same as wearing a lapel pin. MSNBC got so politically one-sided that it forgot about news, and viewers forgot about MSNBC. I am sure they made a business decision in hiring Donald Trump that he would make them money. Their ultra-liberal "news" operations might lose viewership (if possible) by retaining Trump, or gain viewership by bashing Trump. It might be awkward to retain Trump and bash Trump at the same time. If everyone at NBC donned a flag pin, I'm not sure it would say anything at all. Let me give the below a prefacing /sarc tag. By NORM ROWLAND Some say that people who don’t wear American flag lapel pins are just as patriotic as those who do. They say it’s no more a sign of one’s love for his country — or its flag — than an Alpo logo on a stock car driver’s uniform is a sign that he eats dog food. They’re wrong, of course. If it weren’t for lapel pins, it would be terribly hard to know who among us are the patriots and who are the slackers. Take Dick Cheney, for instance. Based on his five draft deferments and his statement that he had “other priorities” rather than serve in the military during the Vietnam War, you might wonder just how deep his commitment is to defending America from the forces of evil. But Cheney proudly wears an American flag pin in his lapel, proving that he is not only deeply patriotic but also somewhat of an authority on the subject, having questioned the patriotism of triple amputee Max Cleland, who made the big mistake of supporting John Kerry, another shirker who shunned the rigors of Laramie, Wyo., for the relative safety of the Mekong River Delta. I don’t mean to criticize Cheney for going to great lengths to avoid military service. Almost anybody who has been there will tell you that getting shot at is not pleasant. Also, avoiding military service is part of our glorious tradition, and obtaining college deferments or hiding in the National Guard is certainly more respectable than paying a poor kid to go in your place like they used to do. [...]
I did.
Yes. So I guess you're saying he was speaking only of ABC journalists and ABC network philosophy? I got the impression it was more generalized than that. "Making a business decision is not the same as wearing a lapel pin." It is if they're done for political reasons. And Trump was fired for his statement on immigration. "It might be awkward to retain Trump and bash Trump at the same time." Well, let's be honest here. Trump is not legally allowed to keep his show on NBC if he's running for President. Whether he cancelled NBC or NBC cancelled him is a moot point. "If it weren’t for lapel pins, it would be terribly hard to know who among us are the patriots and who are the slackers." Sure. Just like if it wasn't for AIDS ribbons and Breast Cancer ribbons we wouldn't know who really cares more than others.
I was saying it was not me that you quoted.
I understand. I was merely citing the quote you posted.
I'm sure some did because of bible study. I suppose it may depend on whether they engaged in bible study. Of course, many may engage in bible study and it causes no conflict with their Catholic faith. But Catholics largely ignore church teaching on contraception which infers dismissing the infallability of the Pope on doctrines of faith or morals. There was a large problem with pedophile priests and coverups, sarcastically referred to as the one free grope rule. That one definitely cost some membership. Perhaps it was the ornate churches that seemed too much like monuments to man. Or saying rote prayers until they lost meaning, e.g., "Bless us Our Lord, for these Thy gifts," etc. It's like a shock to the system when one first has dinner with Baptists and grace unexpectedly does not follow the customary text but sounds more like a conversation with their Lord. Contrast with priests reciting a prayer at mass in the manner of a speed reader reciting the legal fine print at the end of a tv commercial.
The temerity to think the ruler of the universe is your buddy and you can have a casual conversation with him. You should fear the Lord, your God. Secondly, I don't know what the Catholic mass entails but for the Orthodox, they recite the New Testament in their liturgy - which is not a mass but a worship service. It is how in Revelation, the workings of heaven are shown to function. So above and so below.
I do see how that can be, I don't see how anyone can study even one of the four Gospels and still remain a Roman Catholic. But, I know there are. I for one simply do not believe you can be both Born Again Christian and an idolator at the same time.
#2. To: BobCeleste (#0)
#3. To: BobCeleste (#0)
of what I pay to Comcast for Cable Internet gets
passed on to ABC?
#4. To: Stoner (#1)
They should be treated like everyone is treating the Confederate Flag.
#5. To: Liberator (#2)
Wow.
#6. To: Chuck_Wagon (#3)
#7. To: BobCeleste (#0)
ABC News Bans Flag Lapel Pins-Truth! & Fiction!
Claim: ABC banned on-air personnel from wearing American flag pins after 9/11.
Viral message claims ABC News has ordered reporters and news anchors not to wear American flag lapel pins or other patriotic insignia.
Circulating since: June 2008
Status: TRUE (in 2001) / MISREPRESENTED (see details below) ABC News Bans Flag Lapel Pins
Fact check: Flag pin ban about bias, not patriotism
#8. To: nolu chan (#7)
#9. To: Pericles (#8)
I am shocked at how easily old people
#10. To: nolu chan (#7)
"Overseas, it could be perceived that we're just mouthpieces for the U.S. government, and that can place our journalists in danger."
#11. To: nolu chan (#7)
#12. To: BobCeleste (#11)
#13. To: BobCeleste, nolu chan (#11)
My comment is this, snopes is no longer a trusted source when it comes to anything political.
#14. To: A K A Stone, nolu chan (#13)
(Edited)
#15. To: A K A Stone (#13)
In my opinion. Mr. Chan is much more reliable at getting to just the facts then snopes.
#16. To: nolu chan (#12)
It does not appear that any ABC news hosts wear any lapel pins, but I could be wrong.
#17. To: Pericles (#14)
#18. To: nolu chan (#7)
"We cannot signal through outward symbols how we feel, even if the cause is justified"
#19. To: BobCeleste (#17)
You are equating honoring sodomites who have, by their own behavior, gotten a deadly disease with showing respect and honor for the symbol of the United States? Absolute nonsense.
#20. To: BobCeleste (#16)
I and my wife looked carefully last night to both the local ABC news and the national ABC news, neither of us saw any pins.
When I was a kid, the RC church did not specifically deny people carrying in and using the KJV
History tells us that the real reason was that when folks studied the Bible, they left Roman Catho9licism in droves, for they found that RC propaganda and dogma was in 90% of the cases in direct opposition to the Word of God and His word, the Bible.
#21. To: BobCeleste, nolu chan (#15)
Snopes has proven time and time again that they are more interested in parroting the line of the democrat and it's followers, than the truth.
#22. To: misterwhite (#18)
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/abc_flag_pins.htm
Really? NBC did. They cancelled Trump over his immigration comments. Sure does look like they're taking a stand on a hot-button political issue.
Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:00 am
#23. To: nolu chan (#20)
... I honestly do not know if droves of Roman Catholics read the bible or left for that or some other reason.
#24. To: nolu chan (#22)
"Just to clarify, your quote was of ABC spokesman Jeffrey Schneider."
#25. To: misterwhite (#24)
Yes. So I guess you're saying he was speaking only of ABC journalists and ABC network philosophy? I got the impression it was more generalized than that.
#26. To: nolu chan (#25)
"I was saying it was not me that you quoted."
#27. To: BobCeleste (#23)
I did.
#28. To: nolu chan, BobCeleste (#27)
ut sounds more like a conversation with their Lord. ontrast with priests reciting a prayer at mass in the manner of a speed reader reciting the legal fine print at the end of a tv commercial.
#29. To: nolu chan (#27)
many may engage in bible study and it causes no conflict with their Roman Catholic faith.
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