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Title: White South Africans sign controversial petition for the “right to return” to Europe
Source: The South African
URL Source: http://www.thesouthafrican.com/whit ... the-right-to-return-to-europe/
Published: May 27, 2015
Author: Katy Scott
Post Date: 2015-05-27 23:51:52 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 2248
Comments: 24

An online petition on the website change.org is calling for the European Union to give white South Africans, Namibians and Zimbabweans automatic European citizenship.

“The white South African population currently faces ethnic cleansing and persecutions at the hands of the ANC government, the EFF, and various individual anti-white aggressors. Over 4000 white farmers have been brutally murdered, often including torture, rape and mutilation,” the petition reads.

“Many white South Africans today live in poverty and squalor as a consequence of the ANC government’s Black Economic Empowerment policy which shuts whites out of the labour pool.”

The petition has accumulated over 24,000 signatures.

Brazilian Rodrigo Herhaus de Campos, who is behind the campaign, says in the petition that he has been liaising with right wing group Front Nasionaal (National Front) in South Africa.

“Many of these white South Africans seeking citizenship are direct descendants of the very same European nations that reject them,” the petition reads.

The petition questions whether white South Africans should have “the right to return to any European nation of their choosing, or if they would specifically have the right to return to whatever nation the majority of their ancestry is from”. In most cases this would be either the UK or the Netherlands.

De Campos believes that it is “morally obligatory that Europe should allow all white South Africans the right to return” as he compares white South Africans to Jews being allowed the right to return to Israel.

Marischka Davies gave her reason for signing the petition: “Because I am a naturalised British citizen yet my mom is stuck on her own in South Africa. She should be growing old with her daughter and grand daughter. She has been attacked with an AK47 held to her head and is alone and traumatised. She deserves to be free from living in fear.”

Political analyst Shadrack Gutto dismissed the petition entirely. “You could petition to go to where you believe you originally came from but if you investigate further you find you came from somewhere else,” he told Times Live.

Gutto has said that he would like to open up a dialogue with those supporting the petition.

DA Abroad Leader, Ludre Stevens said that the DA does not support the petition in any shape or form.

“It is wrong to create an impression that there is a national racial agenda against whites in South Africa. The country has major challenges in terms of unemployment, crime and government inefficiency. These are challenges that affect us all, and that we must confront collectively as South Africans,” Stevens said.

“We believe in the potential of our country and its people, and that South Africa can once again take its place amongst the great nations of the world”.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

White South Africans sign controversial petition for the “right to return” to Europe

It's the only chance they now have for decent survival.

rlk  posted on  2015-05-27   23:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

South Africa is not Zimbabwe. Not even close.

The EU should absolutely give white people in Zimbabwe asylum from the evil, racist, Marxist regime. No question.

cranko  posted on  2015-05-28   0:00:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone, Willie Green (#0)

The media will put this little nugget on the ignore list, like all uncomfortable truths.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-28   0:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: cranko (#2)

SA is getting worse by the day, should they wait until it's exactly as bad as Zimbabwe?

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-28   0:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Dead Culture Watch, A K A Stone, Willie Green (#3)

The media will put this little nugget on the ignore list, like all uncomfortable truths.

That is because the article is BS - White SA can easily obtain UK passports.

Most European countries have an automatic citizenship clause for ethnic populations. For example, Germans will be made automatic citizens if they apply - if ancestry can be proven, etc.

Also, white SA have been leaving for a long time, and they can do so because it is so easy for them to gain residency in the old British empire.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-28   1:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pericles (#5)

passports

Umm, don't think they are talking about visiting these places. Do you have a passport? Do you know what they are for?

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-28   8:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Dead Culture Watch (#6)

I have zero doubt based on all I have read - plus speaking to some transplanted SA that they can go to the UK on a UK passport as if they were native born Brits.

This clumsy stunt here is to draw attention to the fact that SA has become a crime riddled backwater - it always was - but now it affects the affluent as well as the poor.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-28   13:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Dead Culture Watch (#6)

http://mirianjugheli.com/2011/01/30/georgian-govt-creates-a-website-for-south-african-boers/

This is Georgia, technically in Europe:

http://www.voanews.com/content/afrikaner-farmers-migrating-to-georgia- 129900258/145298.html

Afrikaner Farmers Migrating to Georgia

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-28   13:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pericles, Dead Culture Watch (#7)

I have zero doubt based on all I have read - plus speaking to some transplanted SA that they can go to the UK on a UK passport as if they were native born Brits.

Does a that passport confer UK citizenship and all that entails?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-28   14:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dead Culture Watch (#4)

SA is getting worse by the day, should they wait until it's exactly as bad as Zimbabwe?

I don't agree that it's getting worse.

SA is a typical third-world country with lavish guarded, gated communities sitting right next to tin hovels with no indoor plumbing. India is exactly the same way.

In SA, they are are building larger and more opulent gated communities all of the time. Nothing is being built in Zimbabwe because Robert Mugabe has spent nearly 30 years wrecking the economy, destroying the currency, and encouraging violence against white property owners.

cranko  posted on  2015-05-28   14:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SOSO (#9)

have zero doubt based on all I have read - plus speaking to some transplanted SA that they can go to the UK on a UK passport as if they were native born Brits.

Does a that passport confer UK citizenship and all that entails?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27252307

Why white South Africans are coming home

3 May 2014

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-28   14:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pericles (#11)

Thank you but this does not answer the question. Does having a UK passport confer citizenships in the UK or in the case of the referenced article in Australia for a South African with UK heritage multiple generations removed? If anything your reference indicates that it does not. If you don't know for sure and have an authoritative reference please just say so.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-28   15:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: cranko (#2)

The EU should absolutely give white people in Zimbabwe asylum from the evil, racist, Marxist regime. No question.

As should we.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-05-28   18:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SOSO (#12)

Does having a UK passport confer citizenships in the UK

It depends. I don't know the law in the UK but it is no barrier for Whites from ex British commonwealth countries like in South Africa to return to their mother country.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-28   20:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Vicomte13, cranko (#13) (Edited)

The EU should absolutely give white people in Zimbabwe asylum from the evil, racist, Marxist regime. No question.

As should we.

Since I listen to the BBC, you guys maybe behind in info by a few years. White farmers from Zimbabwe and South Africa are hot properties in many countries where they are given land pretty much for free to farm. The South African farmers are even being given land in European Georgia.

http://www.panapress.com/Botswana,-Zimbabwe-in-diplomatic-row-over-white- farmers--13-463027-18-lang1-index.html

Botswana, Zimbabwe in diplomatic row over white farmers

Gaborone- Botswana (PANA) -- Botswana and Zimbabwe are set for a diplomatic row after the Botswana Agricultural Union (BAU) invited white Zimbabwe farmers to come and invest in the country.

http://www.biyokulule.com/Zim%20Farmers.htm

Jan 12, 2007 (Zimbabwe Independent/All Africa Global Media via COMTEX) -- THE scramble for dispossessed Zimbabwean farmers intensifies in Africa with Somaliland becoming the latest country to offer land to evicted farmers looking for a new start.

More than 20 African countries are scrambling to snap up Zimbabwe's commercial farmers displaced from their properties by the chaotic and often violent land seizures in their bid to develop commercial agriculture.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-28   20:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pericles (#14)

I don't know the law in the UK but it is no barrier for Whites from ex British commonwealth countries like in South Africa to return to their mother country.

That by no means the same thing as the UK granting citizenship to theses people and that is what the white SA's are seeking. Your comments have been nothing but a BS smoke screen to deflect the point of the article.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-28   21:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SOSO (#16) (Edited)

don't know the law in the UK but it is no barrier for Whites from ex British commonwealth countries like in South Africa to return to their mother country. That by no means the same thing as the UK granting citizenship to theses people and that is what the white SA's are seeking. Your comments have been nothing but a BS smoke screen to deflect the point of the article.

I don't understand why online conservatives don't google stuff up?

https://www.gov.uk/ancestry-visa

You can apply for a UK Ancestry visa if you:

are a Commonwealth citizen are applying from outside the UK are able to prove that one of your grandparents was born in the UK are able and planning to work in the UK meet the other eligibility requirements

http://www.uk-visas-for-south-africans.co.za/ancestry.html

UK Ancestral visa

Defined as:

" 5 year multiple entry visa that allows commonwealth citizens, including South Africans, to claim working and settlement rights from grandparents that were born in the UK."

This visa has no work restrictions. After the initial 5 years, South Africans can apply for further extensions. Thereafter can nationalize as British nationals, subject to showing sufficient intent to permanently reside in the UK.

Cost of the visa

The Ancestral visa costs GPB275 which is approximately R5500*. This is the non-refundable UK government fee payable to the British High Commission in Pretoria. *Last editied April 2014 - please check Move Up's UK Visa Fee page for monthly change.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-28   23:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pericles (#15)

White farmers from Zimbabwe and South Africa are hot properties in many countries where they are given land pretty much for free to farm. The South African farmers are even being given land in European Georgia.

And the whites who don't farm???

cranko  posted on  2015-05-29   13:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: cranko (#18)

And the whites who don't farm???

Skilled workers are in demand as well. If not - who wants a white welfare case? Not even welfare loving Europe.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-29   15:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Pericles (#17)

I don't understand why online conservatives don't google stuff up?

You can apply for a UK Ancestry visa if you:

And I can't understand why liberals are so reading impaired. But let's try again

Commonwealth citizen means any person who has the status of a Commonwealth citizen under the British Nationality Act 1981. The eligibility criteria under the Act are:

1.British Citizens;

2.British subjects with the right of abode in the UK (this generally applies to people who were born before 1 January 1949 and who had a connection with either British India or the Republic of Ireland);

3.British Overseas Territories citizens (ie people who obtained their citizenship from a connection with a territory which remains a British dependency eg Gibraltar, Bermuda);

4.British Overseas Citizens (ie people who have a connection with a former British colony - for example, Kenya - who did not become citizens of that country when it became independent and did not become British citizens).

5.A further category was added in 1986: British National (Overseas): this applies to former British Dependent Territories citizens connected with Hong Kong."

Note that the first category is British Citizen, a totally distinct designation from the rest and again so in item 4.

Further, a Visa is NOT citizenship. The white SA want UK citizen...NOT a Visa.......NOT a work permit......NOT resident status.........BUUUUUUUUT CITIZENSHIP. What is so hard to understand?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-29   17:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: SOSO (#20)

Further, a Visa is NOT citizenship. The white SA want UK citizen...NOT a Visa.......NOT a work permit......NOT resident status.........BUUUUUUUUT CITIZENSHIP. What is so hard to understand?

Bullshit, you speak for White SA? And why should the Boers get UK citizenship since their ancestors resisted the British in a bloody war?

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-29   17:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pericles (#19) (Edited)

cranko  posted on  2015-05-29   17:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Pericles (#21)

And why should the Boers get UK citizenship since their ancestors resisted the British in a bloody war?

Thank you, you f*cking idiot, for revealing you deception about Commonwealth Citizens, including SAs, being conferred UK citizens upon permitted travel to the UK. You are so f*cking dumb that you don't even recognize when you trap yourself. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha........................... Thanks for the laughs.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-29   17:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: SOSO (#23)

Thank you, you f*cking idiot, for revealing you deception about Commonwealth Citizens, including SAs, being conferred UK citizens upon permitted travel to the UK.

Yes, for the most part that is true. There is no crisis of immigration exodus from SA nor are the whites there in danger of being wiped out.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-29   20:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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