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Title: Michael Brelo Shoots Through Windshield at Unarmed Couple 15 Times: Found Not Guilty
Source: Reason
URL Source: http://reason.com/
Published: May 23, 2015
Author: Brian Doherty
Post Date: 2015-05-23 18:48:37 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 19197
Comments: 92

Some people in Cleveland back in November 2012 thought they heard a gun firing. It was a car backfiring. So they chased the car from which they imagined the gunshot came at high speeds, often reaching 100 mph, for 20 miles, themselves shooting at or into that car 137 times.

One of the shooters, named Michael Brelo, leapt on the hood of the car after it was halted and shot 15 times. The people inside the car, Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams, were, predictably, murdered in this barrage of 137 gunshots all told. They were unarmed.

Do you think Brelo committed a crime?

Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Judge John P. O'Donnell didn't think so. This morning a trial for Brelo (the only one of the group of 13 people responsible charged with any crime, in this case "voluntary manslaughter") ended with a verdict from the judge of not guilty.

Why? How?

Oh wait—did I forget to mention Brelo was a police officer? Never mind!

But the reasoning was, according to the Columbus Dispatch report: There wasn't any way to be sure beyond a reasonable doubt that it was the specific bullets that Brelo fired that ended Russell and Williams's life, after

a nearly hour-long summation of his conclusion, an involved explanation of the decision that involved mannequins marked with the gunshot wounds that the two motorists suffered.

As NPR summed up:

it was impossible to determine beyond a reasonable doubt that either suspect would have survived if not for Brelo's shots.

He also determined that Brelo's use of force was constitutionally reasonable given that he and other officers perceived that Russell and Williams posed a threat.

"It is Brelo's perception of a threat that matters," O'Donnell said.

Have a great weekend, Cleveland.

Ed Krayewski blogged about this case in January, last November (about the $3 million civil wrongful death suit payout from the city over the murder, er, "incident"), and June.

Brian Doherty is a senior editor at Reason magazine and author of Ron Paul’s Revolution: The Man and the Movement He Inspired (Broadside Books).

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#26. To: CZ82 (#25)

What if his car backfired. Then some thug cops came and execxuted him his wife and kids. That wouldn't be murder would it? Justice?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   6:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#26)

The investigation showed they were unarmed which is kinda surprising, you would have thought they would have "found" a whole arsenal in the car even though there were no bullet holes in any of the cop cars. At least any holes they wanted seen maybe they were shooting up each other during the chase?

Leading the cops on a long chase even after been shot a couple of times wasn't too smart, guess that makes them guilty of something and worth being executed. At least it looks that way since "Urkel" was found not guilty even though the final "Cowboy scene" of jumping on the hood of the car and dumping his whole mag into them wasn't necessary..

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-24   6:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CZ82 (#27) (Edited)

If someone unloaded an ak47 into Michael Brelos head. That wouldn't be murder?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   7:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#2)

"when a JURY NULLIFICATION happens in Florida, acquitting a drug addled shitbag, the cop haters SMILE... now it's time for me to smile."

Good point. The "nullification" door swings both ways.

Just goes to show what happens when we go by the rule of man, not the rule of law.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-24   8:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: rlk (#6)

"There is no mention of a jury."

I'm not positive, but can't a defendant request a verdict by the trial judge instead of a jury?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-24   8:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard (#0)

"Some people in Cleveland back in November 2012 thought they heard a gun firing. It was a car backfiring."

What is this, 1920? They were driving a 1979 Chevy Malibu. They "backfire" a lot? While at high speed?

If they had a gun, they threw it out the window during the 45-minute, 100 mph chase.

Why were they fleeing the police?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-24   9:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#22)

You have forever lowered yourself in my view and others.

The others don’t matter to me, you do.

If someone doesn’t like something, it doesn’t mean that someone else has to not like it too.

Before criticizing and judging someone’s statement or action, consider that they may have some reason for them.

In doing that, a person cultivates tolerance to help them better understand people and judge them less.

If one is to grow as a person and become wiser, then one should learn how to respect the right of other people to have opinions of their own.

“Forever”…you say?

If you meant that, then I will respectfully and kindly say goodbye to you and LF.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-24   10:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin (#32)

I don't see how you condone this. And still call yourself moral.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   10:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#33)

"I don't see how you condone this."

137 rounds were fired at the couple -- 15 of them by the cop on trial, 122 by others.

Now, without hearing the evidence, seeing the evidence, reading the evidence, and with less legal background than the trial judge, you believe beyond a reasonable doubt that it was the 15 rounds fired by the defendant that killed the two people in the car.

#1. Bullshit. #2. You're the reason why the defendant chose a bench trial.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-24   10:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#33)

It would appear to me that you read one sentence in one article and formed a STRONG opinion from that.

The Judge listened testimony for days from all sides and made a decision from that.

I condone the right of the Judge to make the decision he finds proper. He is a respected Judge by both the prosecution and defense.

“While I may not always agree with the decision of a Judge, I will forever agree with his right to make the decision.” It is our American system of justice….it is all we have.

“Forever”…you say?

If you meant that, then I will respectfully and kindly say goodbye to you and LF.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-24   10:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: misterwhite (#34)

137 rounds were fired at the couple--15 of them by the cop on trial. 122 by others.

If they followed standard prosecutorial protocols, anybody who fired a shot would have been charged and convicted of murder, at least as the laws apply to the average american citizen.

Logsplitter  posted on  2015-05-24   11:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#33)

Stone,

I expressed my opinion. You had a right to also express your opinion. Instead of doing that, you attacked me personally and said I had forever lowered myself in your view, and then assumed the authority to say the same for others.

As if that were not enough, you then proceeded with your display of apparently uncontrolled emotion to pronounced judgment on my morals….by proclaiming that “I can’t call myself moral.”

Stone, it is obvious to me that you let your emotion override your good judgment, common sense and courtesy. I sincerely wish that had not happened.

But it did.

It is therefore with deep regret, that I must inform you that I can no longer share views and exchange information with you, because you now hold me in contempt with such a low opinion of me (forever) and consider my morals less than a standard set by you.

I hold no animosity towards you in any way and I wish you well in life.

With warmest personal regards,
Gatlin

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-24   11:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin (#35)

The argument isn't about guilt or innocence, that's been settled, it's now about high capacity magazines & the number of rounds fired.

Isn't it ironic that some people who squawk about the # of shots the cop fired want no such restriction (correctly so) on themselves? Logically it would hold that they'd also support more gun control, such as laws in NY and NJ which limit the number of rounds a citizen can have in his gun.

The Patriot Militia, Inc.

Percy Misanthrope  posted on  2015-05-24   11:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: misterwhite (#31) (Edited)

Why were they fleeing the police?

To get away from the dumb bastards trying to kill them...

rlk  posted on  2015-05-24   13:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Gatlin, not a victim, opus?, what a maroon, A K A Stone (#37)

Don't let the door hit you in the a$$. Your attempt to paint yourself as some kind of "victim" of a meanie site owner has FAILED! You self destructed.

LOLAY, retarded canary.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-05-24   13:55:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: hondo68 (#40)

Don't let the door hit you in the a$$. Your attempt to paint yourself as some kind of "victim" of a meanie site owner has FAILED!

Oh the poor delicate man!

What a sniveling little dweeb Gatlin has turned out to be.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-24   14:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Gatlin (#37)

...because you now hold me in contempt with such a low opinion of me (forever)

And you wonder why?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-24   14:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: rlk (#39)

"To get away from the dumb bastards trying to kill them..."

Oh? Why they were trying to kill them, do you know?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-24   14:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: hondo68 (#40)

Don't let the door hit you in the a$$. Your attempt to paint yourself as some kind of "victim" of a meanie site owner has FAILED! You self destructed.

Don't let the door hit you in the a$$. Your attempt to paint yourself as a Moderate and as some kind of "victim" of a Ultra right wing religious gun toting meanie site owner has FAILED! You self destructed.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-24   15:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Gatlin (#37)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-05-24   15:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Gatlin (#37)

It is therefore with deep regret, that I must inform you that I can no longer share views and exchange information with you, because you now hold me in contempt with such a low opinion of me (forever) and consider my morals less than a standard set by you.

Do as you wish. But I never said I hold you in contempt. I don't.

I just said my opinion of you is lower.

Cops should never be allowed a trial by judge. The fix was in obviously. The judge always takes the side of the cops. The fact is he fired several rounds into a car of innocent people.

Anyone who thinks that any individual should be allowed to fire that many shots into a car full of innocent people certainly has lower morals then I do.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   15:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Deckard (#42)

All I can say is thank god our happy band of self-proclaimed constitutionalists are eager to override the decision of a local judge to that of Obama's central government!

Viva State's Rights!

The Patriot Militia, Inc.

Percy Misanthrope  posted on  2015-05-24   15:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Percy Misanthrope (#47)

All I can say is thank god our happy band of self-proclaimed constitutionalists are eager to override the decision of a local judge to that of Obama's central government!

Viva State's Rights!

I'm happy to know that you are a full supporter of the OJ verdict. By something superior to a judge. A jury.

Just because some judge said it doesn't make it right.

I think you're Yukon. I could be wrong though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   15:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Percy Misanthrope (#47)

Ok you're not Yukon. But I know who you are and you have two names. Pick one please.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   15:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#49)

To: Percy Misanthrope

I know who you are and you have two names. Pick one please.

"White Trash" seems to fit the best.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-05-24   15:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#46)

Do as you wish.

Thank you, I usually do.

This is a written notice to inform you of a 7-day social relations contact timeout imposed on you as the consequence of your poor attitude and bad behavior. Consequently, you will be placed on bozo starting at 2400 hours today. This corrective action probably means I cannot receive "LF Mail" from you. Therefore, should you need to get in touch with me for administrative purpose during the time of your disciplinary shunning, you can do so through email addressed to tpaine@sharklasers.com.

We do not learn from experience... we learn from reflecting on experience ― John Dewey

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-24   17:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Gatlin (#51)

You can't post until further notice.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   18:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#51)

during the time of your disciplinary shunning, you can do so through email addressed to tpaine@sharklasers.com.

" tpaine@sharklasers.com" --- how in hell did I get involved in Gatlins hissy fit? And should I sue for copyright infringement on this outrageous use of my handle?

tpaine  posted on  2015-05-24   19:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: misterwhite (#43) (Edited)

Oh? Why they were trying to kill them, do you know?

I don't know. Neither does anyone else with certainty. As presented, someone heard a noise and a group of people formed a lynch mob and decided "It must have come from that car." and gave angry chase with no serious evidence, only their excited enclination at the time. At the end, Brelo played the part of the mob's hero, jumped on the car's hood, and sprayed bullets everywhere with deliberate intent to murder. He is a ferocious nutcase who should be prosecuted for his intention. The fancy dan Judge who is posturing in the photo to look like he is in deep thought should be expelled from the bench and charged with obstruction of justice. It was a showpiece mistrial.

rlk  posted on  2015-05-24   19:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#21)

I'll have to disagree with you on this one. Our system may have been set u this way. But when it gets something wrong it is no reason to smile or celebrate.

I'd have to disagree with you. I live by the system that's put in place. Our forefathers were especially geniuses when it came to setting the foundation for our criminal justice standards. So, when OJ obviously hacks up two people and walks... good for him. Shitbirds always get what they deserve sooner or later... he got his. When Zimmerman walked... good for him. When that fella in Florida walked from an obvious drug crime through jury nullification... GOOD FOR HIM. The drug warriors celebrated.... and I accepted the courts decision.

In this case, he was found not guilty. GOOD FOR HIM. it's how we roll. Cop supporters celebrate his CONSTITUTIONAL outcome just like Deckard and conspiracy crew celebrate jury nullifications or anytime a criminal can victimize an officer and be acquitted.

Let's be fair Stone... nobody is celebrating that this officer ended a life. I'm celebrating that our criminal justice system is fair and balanced and on occasion, will make both sides of the law agree.

If you feel I'm not moral, so be it. I have thicker skin than Gatlin. But I'm very moral. I agree with our standards of proof for a conviction. I also understand that thousands upon thousands of shitbirds are acquitted because it was impossible to meet those standards... while trying never to convict an innocent person. I'll celebrate that our criminal justice system isn't perfect 100% of the time, but it's better than any other.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-24   20:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#46)

Cops should never be allowed a trial by judge.

Cops should have the same constitutional standards as and shitbird drug dealer.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-24   20:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Percy Misanthrope (#38)

Isn't it ironic that some people who squawk about the # of shots the cop fired want no such restriction (correctly so) on themselves?

There are many here that feel constitutional rights are worth starting a revolt over... but those rights shouldn't be important to cops.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-24   20:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: All, GrandIsland (#28)

If someone unloaded an ak47 into Michael Brelos head. That wouldn't be murder?

Let me answer my own question since no one took the bait. Yes it would be murder. So why isn't it in this case?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   22:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: GrandIsland (#56)

Cops should never be allowed a trial by judge. Cops should have the same constitutional standards as and shitbird drug dealer.

Letting judges try cops invites corruption. What would have happened to this judge if he found the cop guilty? There was enormous pressure on him. You know it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   22:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: GrandIsland (#55)

I'd have to disagree with you. I live by the system that's put in place. Our forefathers were especially geniuses when it came to setting the foundation for our criminal justice standards. So, when OJ obviously hacks up two people and walks... good for him. Shitbirds always get what they deserve sooner or later... he got his. When Zimmerman walked... good for him. When that fella in Florida walked from an obvious drug crime through jury nullification... GOOD FOR HIM. The drug warriors celebrated.... and I accepted the courts decision.

We can accept the decision. But that doesn't mean we can't complain or disagree with it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   22:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: GrandIsland (#55)

et's be fair Stone... nobody is celebrating that this officer ended a life.

Fair enough?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   22:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: A K A Stone (#58)

Let me answer my own question since no one took the bait. Yes it would be murder. So why isn't it in this case?

Because he was found not guilty. Our system isn't perfect... but it's closer to perfect than any other criminal justice system... and we can't pick and choose what verdicts a defendant gets. Just like I had to swallow the OJ decision... you must swallow this one. I'll assume there were other factors than we heard.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-24   22:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Gatlin (#51)

Consequently, you will be placed on bozo starting at 2400 hours today.

I told you so. Really ticks off Pebbles to no end.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-05-24   22:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: GrandIsland, Gatlin (#55)

If you feel I'm not moral, so be it.

I purposefully didn't say that to you.

Maybe I was a little harsh in my assessment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   22:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: GrandIsland (#62)

Because he was found not guilty. Our system isn't perfect... but it's closer to perfect than any other criminal justice system...

Do you think he should be tried for any additional crimes? I'm sure you as a former officer could think of something to charge him with.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   22:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Fred Mertz (#63)

I know how to piss you off.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-24   22:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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