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Title: U.S. Army FORCES Cadets to Wear High Heels to Promote Feminist Campaign
Source: Prison Planet
URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/u-s-arm ... promote-feminist-campaign.html
Published: Apr 21, 2015
Author: Paul Joseph Watson
Post Date: 2015-04-23 13:17:42 by Deckard
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Views: 20238
Comments: 95

Cadets at Temple University were threatened that their careers would be finished if they refused to participate in a feminist campaign to promote the completely debunked college rape culture myth by wearing red spray painted high heels.

Imagine what ISIS or the Russian military is thinking when they see these images. Third wave feminism has poisoned EVERYTHING, even the U.S. Military.

UPDATE: Infowars was contacted by a former US Army servicemember who told us that his unit – Delta Company, 1st Battalion, 2nd Infantry Regiment, 172nd Infantry Brigade – was also FORCED to participate in the ‘Walk a Mile in Her Shoes’ event in 2011.

“I was deployed in Afghanistan during this time, but my comrades in the rear told me this event was a MANDATORY,” he writes. “As a former medic, I know that the only way out of this was to lie about injuries or pull some form of guard duty at this time.”

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#55. To: redleghunter (#52)

If memory serves...Schoomaker was actually called out of retirment for the CoS gig after Shenseki (sp?).

Yup,he had already retired,but by the Army (probably the other branches,also) was so polluted with PC brass in senior positions they had to call Schoomaker out of retirement to save the Army and put it back on it's feet. The Clintons had a policy of promoting and being rabbi's for "quota officers". They were especially hot to trot to get females promoted to General,and put in command of line combat units.

IIRC,the corruption ran so deep that nobody in uniform could agree on who was responsible enough to take over the position and be accepted as non-political,so they went to the retired list for help. Schoomaker was known to be a very bright and very competent officer who was loyal only to the country and the Army,so he was picked to clean up the mess.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-24   21:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: redleghunter (#53)

Joey Galloway was there too.

He had a reputation for loving to go out to visit remote SF camps that were under attack,and had the reputation of being the only reporter that went around armed (with a Swedish K,IIRC),and who could be counted on to man a position on the wall when the camps were attacked.

I heard he also liked to sit on the berms and some some weed at sunset.

Never heard anybody say anything negative about him. He had stones and could be counted on in a pinch. Nothing else really mattered.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-24   21:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Don (#54)

There is bad mojo in the air now. The world is going dark and people can sense bad things around them.

I agree. That might be why some people are so tense. They just have a vague sense of what is coming,but can't identify what it is that disturbs them. That's enough to make anyone cranky.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-24   21:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: redleghunter (#15)

I worked for the current CoS of the Army in two previous assignments. Once he gets all the facts of this some heads are going to roll. Big conservative football player Italian don looking voluntarily bald Generals don't put male Soldiers or cadets in women's shoes.


Please keep me informed of his actions, I, while certainty bowing to your knowledge of the Army, doubt that any heads will roll.

Generals are to interested in their retirement incomes and not interested in the well being of the junior, O-5 and below, officer corps or troops.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-04-25   7:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: BobCeleste, CZ82, sneakypete, GarySpFc (#58)

Generals are to interested in their retirement incomes and not interested in the well being of the junior, O-5 and below, officer corps or troops.

Some Generals are Army 'puritans.' Meaning they know the PC garbage hurts the Army. Yet, the wiley ones, they also know when to pick and choose their 'battles.' If they 'fell on the sword' for every stupid thing the civilian political leaders did or implemented there would be no good generals left. Sometimes they just wait it out for calmer seas. Your USMC Generals do a good job of this to preserve the Corps.

For example, the Marine Corps was 'forced' to accept women in their advanced infantry training for officers. They obliged of course...but none of the female officers passed the rigorous standards. They did not lower the bar so females could 'pass' and allow good Marines to be in harms way. The Army gets their 'test' this month as three women go off to Ranger school. I know plenty of athletic men with strong mental abilities not pass Ranger school. The question will be if the Army lowers their standards for the women to look PC or they do what the Marines did and say 'sure ladies come on in, now do this or you are out like the men.'

We shall see.

As I mentioned a few weeks back I am now a civilian Army trainer. The Soldiers we are getting in now are the same. Some are eager, aggressive, smart and fit and some are not. It has been like that for generations. Most don't get involved in the daily PC garbage and just do their job. It is the job of the officers and senior NCOs to shield the Soldiers from all that garbage coming from DC and the Pentagram.

The only negative comments from my observations of Army units from civilian 'eyes' is the lost art of actually fighting battles. All the young leaders 'grew up' in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are very good at fighting insurgents but barely competent on fighting other armies, navies and air forces. It is because of this deficiency retired Army guys and gals work where we work.

"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-25   10:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: redleghunter (#59)

For example, the Marine Corps was 'forced' to accept women in their advanced infantry training for officers. They obliged of course...but none of the female officers passed the rigorous standards. They did not lower the bar so females could 'pass' and allow good Marines to be in harms way.

The Clinton's hand-picked a female candidate to be "the first Green Beret",and had Army regulations changed because the physical requirements to be accepted into SFTG were deemed to be "sexist",and the ones she did have to meet,like the minimum pushup number,were done using "Female" pushups.

She was ordained by the WH to be the "First female SF officer",and the "First SF Female General Officer". It was all about "shattering the glass ceiling" back then and getting females into combat command positions so they could become General Officers.

I understand there was a lot of indirect pressure put on the SWC command by DA and the Clinton WH to make sure she passed,but she flunked out because the senior officers refused to play the game. I heard all about this maybe 3rd hand from others who had heard rumors,but nobody that was directly involved in it ever wanted to talk. Even I wouldn't be mentioning it today if it weren't for the fact that everyone involved at the time is safety retired now.

IIRC,there were two 0-5's or O-6's (can't remember which at this point) that had their careers ended because they refused to follow DA and WH "suggestions",and held her to the same standards they held the male students.

AFAIK,there hasn't been any female SFTG students since them.

It is damn near impossible to flunk out a black or Hispanic student now,though. They just recycle them through the program and send them to a all-black cadre staff to work in a area that is predominately black.

I haven't heard very many white SF NCO's bitch about this,but I have heard a couple of black senior SF NCO's get so mad over it they looked like they were going to explode,and I can't say that I blame them. All the hard work THEY put towards being legitimate graduates of the Special Warfare School was nullified by the AA graduates. Now anybody that sees them wearing a beret will think THEY were AA graduates,too.

It should be mentioned that the AA graduate "program" didn't exist until after the two 0-5's were forced into early retirement over flunking out the woman candidate that was friends with Bubbette!,and the Clinton's made a lot of political officer promotions. I know of one LTC that was a radial anti-gun follower who broke into the house of one of his E-8's that had been arrested for drunk driving,and stole all his guns and ammo. Word was he had the guns and ammo dumped into Mott Lake. The E-8 threatened to have him and his Fan Boy SGM arrested for felony theft unless the LTC dropped the court-martial charges against him and let him retire with his rank,and that's how the LTC got out of it. He was also immediately re-assigned to a company in Thailand to allow the heat to die down around SWC over his actions,and damned if he wasn't back a year later with a promotion to O-6. SOB obviously had a Rabbi in the Pentagram or the DNC because he should have been forced into retirement instead of promoted. Once again,he was one of the graduates of the "Senior Officer SF Candidate Course",and didn't become SF until he was a 0-5,and he was totally incompetent. He is one of the reasons I quit working Robin Sage. He started to run his mouth at me one day during a area command meeting,and I told him to STFU because I wasn't in the army,didn't have to take his crap,and couldn't be court-martialed. He did STFU,but I was also hustled out of the tent by some senior NCO's standing at the back that knew me and were wanting to avoid trouble. The man was a total asshat,and had already lost the majority of the civilian assets that had been working with SFTG because of his arrogant attitude towards them,and some of them had been doing that stuff for 20+ years. The Army wasn't even allowed to use their farm property for training anymore,either. I spent almost 7 years on active duty with SF,and a few more years later on as a civilian contract employee,and I had NEVER seen or heard of any SF officer talking to or treating senior NCO's the way this man did. It was like he was royalty,and they were minimum wage employees that lived to serve him.

I am GUESSING it was crap like this that resulted in Schoomaker being brought back on AD to be the Army COS. It had to be somebody like him because a lot of the AD senior officers by then were Clinton and Boy Jorge political appointees. The Army needed someone without personal knowledge or prejudices to weed out the bad from the good. This is PURE speculation on MY part,though. No one has ever said this to me,and I have never discussed it with anyone on active duty or retired. If I am wrong,it is all on me.

The Army gets their 'test' this month as three women go off to Ranger school. Flat out,if any of them graduate,the standards were lowered. Even Olympic-grade female athletes would have a hard time graduating from Ranger School. It is without question the most physically demanding school in the entire US Army. Gym Rat young males flunk out on a regular basis because they just can't hack the physical requirements along with the mental requirements added to the lack of sleep and rest.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-25   14:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: sneakypete (#60)

8 women, 184 men remain in Ranger School assessment

www.armytimes.com/story/m...rap-week-update/26260827/

I read about this recently and it kind of shocked me and I sent the news item to several Ranger buddies...no response from them. I recall it being talked about in the past, but now the unbelievable reality is here.

I enjoy reading your war stories,petey.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-25   14:24:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Fred Mertz (#61)

I read about this recently and it kind of shocked me

It shocks me,too. I'm wondering if the Ranger cadre picked to grade the women were "hand picked" due to their political reliability?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-25   14:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: redleghunter (#41)

That tapered off after 9/11 when boards starting looking at 'fruit salad' of the combat variant and the number of Soldiers an NCO actually led and how that unit did in combat and training center rotations.

Good, sounds like you guys wised up. But I'm curious as to how much resistance this met from those political creatures outside of the Army, those wanting to protect/reward their favorite "brown noser"?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-04-25   14:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#60)

I spent almost 7 years on active duty with SF,and a few more years later on as a civilian contract employee,and I had NEVER seen or heard of any SF officer talking to or treating senior NCO's the way this man did. It was like he was royalty,and they were minimum wage employees that lived to serve him.

As you mentioned he was a 'new comer' to SF from the senior officer course. He did not 'grow up' in SF and that was his major malfunction. He did not know the breed of men he was supposed to lead or leave alone.

"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-25   16:17:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#61)

Twenty women qualified to attend the integrated Ranger School assessment after successfully completing the Army National Guard Ranger Training Assessment Course.

The word integrated and assessment is telling. Means they adjusted standards.

"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-25   16:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: redleghunter (#65)

They had females enter West Point in 1976, I believe it was. Very controversial at that time, but somehow the institution survived and the women did well.

Change is a challenging thing to those types of institutions, including Ranger School.

I could tell you about Airborne School in the mid-1970s, but I don't want to reveal my age. They were segregated from us boyz back then.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-25   16:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: CZ82 (#63)

Good, sounds like you guys wised up. But I'm curious as to how much resistance this met from those political creatures outside of the Army, those wanting to protect/reward their favorite "brown noser"?

It's the pendulum effect. GOP admins tend to let the services handle personnel decisions. Now with Zero in, we get red high heels. The Dims use the military for their social experiments. The Pubs tend to leave them alone.

"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-25   16:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#66)

They had females enter West Point in 1976, I believe it was. Very controversial at that time, but somehow the institution survived and the women did well.

That's a university environment. West Point commissions officers for all branches of the service. Ranger school is different. It is a place mostly infantry soldiers, NCOs and Officers go to be better infantrymen.

"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-25   16:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: redleghunter (#68)

West Point commissions officers for all branches of the service.

Where did you get that from?

I feel safe saying 99% are commissioned in the Army.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-25   16:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: redleghunter (#65)

The word integrated and assessment is telling. Means they adjusted standards.

Anybody who has ever been in the Army and been to Ranger School or talked with anyone who has knew that right off the bat.

As I have said before,not even female Olympic athletes have what it takes to compete on a level playing field with the few males that graduate from Ranger School. It's not just muscle mass,either. It's the ability to think and make correct decisions with virtually no sleep and physically exhausted and under pressure with people screaming in your ear. Truth to tell,that part is harder to meet than the muscle mass part.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-25   17:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Fred Mertz (#66)

I could tell you about Airborne School in the mid-1970s, but I don't want to reveal my age. They were segregated from us boyz back then.

I can tell you about jump school in the summer of 64. There were no women,and my class started with a class of 425 students. 187 of us graduated 3 weeks later.

And jump school was considerably easier than Ranger School. Although to be fair,a considerable number of the class members that didn't make it quit as soon as they saw the 250 foot towers. This was before the first day of training. We rode past them on the way in,and they quit when the buses got there and unloaded.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-25   17:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: redleghunter (#67)

The Dims use the military for their social experiments.

Of course they do. They are all about social engineering,and there is nowhere more suitable for them to force social engineering off as a successful program than the military. The military can only say "Yes Sir!" and follow orders. If asked if the social experiments were successful,they can only say "yes,they were" because they can be ordered to say "yes,they were".

They are a captive test group.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-25   17:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Fred Mertz, redleghunter (#69)

West Point commissions officers for all branches of the service.

Where did you get that from?

I think he may have meant to say "West Point commissions officers for all branches of the ARMY,technical and administrative,as well as combat arms."

Although it is true that officers from all career branches can apply for and be accepted for training at the Ranger School. Unless things have changed,a NCO needs to come from a combat arms branch of the army to be accepted,though.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-25   17:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Fred Mertz (#69)

West Point commissions officers for all branches of the service. Where did you get that from?

I feel safe saying 99% are commissioned in the Army.

Branches of the Army service. I should have been more accurate.

Meaning Infantry, ARTILLERY, Armor, Intel etc.

"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-25   18:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Don, redleghunter, CZ82 (#33)

Heads should roll in this instance. Let's hope it will happen.

Sorry, I don't see ANY head rolling...except for perhaps some poor token schlub who typed up the "order." Or the personnel in charge of personally distributing the actually high heels to the Cadets.

IF by a slim chance someone does take a hit, it'll be a low rung on the ladder and the noise will be muffled.

At this point all the damage is already done. Those photos will live in infamy.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-25   20:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: redleghunter (#15)

I worked for the current CoS of the Army in two previous assignments. Once he gets all the facts of this some heads are going to roll.

Big conservative football player Italian don looking voluntarily bald Generals don't put male Soldiers or cadets in women's shoes.

I'd *hope* you were right...

However I'm assuming "This Man's Army" is already so infested by LBTQ-types that ALL the "facts" this CoS requests will be still-born. And IF he reveals the nature of such quashing, he'll be prematurely and immediately "retired" just like all the other guys who care.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-25   20:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: sneakypete (#72)

They are a captive test group.

Isn't all military?

I'd have been court martialed if I'd served.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-25   20:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Liberator (#75)

You are probably right.

Don  posted on  2015-04-25   21:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#47) (Edited)

BTW,I used to be friends with a senior NCO that had served with Plumley in the 82nd when they were both platoon sgts,and he said that Sam Elliot absolutely nailed Plumley's personality.

He is very close to Plumley's family.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-04-26   8:06:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: redleghunter (#41)

You know all of this reminds me of the movie Heartbreak Ridge where that supply Major came in and was changing things all for the worse just because he hated the "Old Guard guys".

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-04-26   8:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: sneakypete (#47)

Taken at West Point 2010

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-04-26   8:18:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Liberator (#77)

They are a captive test group. Isn't all military?

Yes.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-26   10:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: CZ82 (#81)

Let that face serve as a warning that you can never tell what it is you are dealing with by looking until it's too late to get away.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-26   10:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#73)

I think he may have meant to say "West Point commissions officers for all branches of the ARMY,technical and administrative,as well as combat arms."

Thanks for the clarification. I know in the old days a very select few opted to enter other services such as the Air Force or Navy. It was a paperwork nightmare but some of them succeeded.

Others did in-service transfers while on active duty, again from the Army to maybe the Air Force or Navy. Very few, but it happened.

More recently, they had some blue to green programs - from Navy/AF to Army - circa 2004 when the Army was hurting for recruits and the other services were healthy.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-26   15:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete, CZ82 (#84)

More recently, they had some blue to green programs - from Navy/AF to Army - circa 2004 when the Army was hurting for recruits and the other services were healthy.

It had more to do with skill sets the Army dismissed 10 years prior. In Iraq and Afghanistan there was a high demand for spectrum managers and electronic warfare expertise. The Navy and Air Force had a glut of both and the Army was restarting their EWO program.

But yes the Navy and AF were drawing down and the Army expanded during the height of OIF. So some in blue enlisted or transferred their commission to the Army.

"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-26   19:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Fred Mertz (#84) (Edited)

Thanks for the clarification. I know in the old days a very select few opted to enter other services such as the Air Force or Navy. It was a paperwork nightmare but some of them succeeded.

Others did in-service transfers while on active duty, again from the Army to maybe the Air Force or Navy. Very few, but it happened.

The last Robin Sage contract I worked with SWC there was a USMC Force Recon Captain going through the course as a student. That wasn't unusual,as lots of Force Recon officers go through the Q course. Most,like the USMC Major that gave me the K-Bar,were doing it so they could work as liaison officers with USA SF on the Special Operations Command to make sure there were no "we do things a different way" mistakes,but this guy was a AD USMC Captain with Force Recon and was switching from the USMC to the US Army. His whole career was on the line because once his class ended,he would no longer be a Marine officer. It was graduate and accept a commission in the US Army as a Army 0-3,or go look for a job.

Not that there was any real danger of this happening. We all like to make fun of Marines,but the truth is Force Recon officers are some of the most intelligent and competent officers I ever met,and there can never be a question about them or any other career Marine being motivated to succeed . The chance of one of them flunking out of any school they ever attend are roughly the same as the sun rising in the west.

Hell of a nice guy. One one of the first few days he was at my base camp,I was doing a perimeter check,and he was manning a M-60 on the approach to the main trail. Just for fun,I make the comment "I thought you were a officer in the USMC? I don't see a bayonet on that thing."

Next time I saw him on it,he had duct-taped a bayonet to the muzzle,and was grinning at me when I came up.

BTW,I know of several former Marines that got out of the Corps when their commitments were up and got into the army and SF,but this young Captain was the only one I ever heard of that did a lateral transfer. Frankly,I'm shocked the USMC let him do it. Force Recon officers are prized Marines,and they don't like letting them go.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-26   20:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: redleghunter (#85)

More recently, they had some blue to green programs - from Navy/AF to Army - circa 2004 when the Army was hurting for recruits and the other services were healthy.

It had more to do with skill sets the Army dismissed 10 years prior. In Iraq and Afghanistan there was a high demand for spectrum managers and electronic warfare expertise. The Navy and Air Force had a glut of both and the Army was restarting their EWO program.

I have a niece that married a guy that enlisted in the Navy because he was having a tough time finding a good job,and off he went to language school to learn Arabic.

Then off he went to serve with the US Army in Afghanistan as a interpreter. Last I heard he had been in the Navy about 6 years now,is already a E-6,and has yet to be assigned to the US Navy.

You have to admit that it kinda sucks to join the Navy to avoid combat,and then get assigned to the Army as a translator/interpreter. I guess he is not on the front lines,and is living fat and happy with the big bucks he is earning and no taxes. Happy enough he re-enlisted,anyhow.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-26   20:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: redleghunter (#59)

For example, the Marine Corps was 'forced' to accept women in their advanced infantry training for officers. They obliged of course...but none of the female officers passed the rigorous standards. They did not lower the bar so females could 'pass' and allow good Marines to be in harms way. The Army gets their 'test' this month as three women go off to Ranger school. I know plenty of athletic men with strong mental abilities not pass Ranger school. The question will be if the Army lowers their standards for the women to look PC or they do what the Marines did and say 'sure ladies come on in, now do this or you are out like the men.'

If the Army doesn't lower the standards for Ranger, then the women will not qualify.

“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-04-28   15:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Fred Mertz, Redleghunter (#69)

West Point commissions officers for all branches of the service.

It surprised me to, but a graduate of West Coast can transfer to any branch of the military. A high school classmate of mine graduated from WP, and then accepted a commission in the Navy. He was determined to be a Naval Aviator,which he achieved. Later he was shot down over NV, and served several years as a guest in the Hanoi Hilton. I spent time talking to Charlie Plumb about this subject after he returned.

“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-04-28   15:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: sneakypete (#71)

I can tell you about jump school in the summer of 64. There were no women,and my class started with a class of 425 students. 187 of us graduated 3 weeks later.

And jump school was considerably easier than Ranger School. Although to be fair,a considerable number of the class members that didn't make it quit as soon as they saw the 250 foot towers. This was before the first day of training. We rode past them on the way in,and they quit when the buses got there and unloaded.

LOL. Okay, I'm going to confess. I was in jump school about the same time. The day came for us to use the 250 foot tower. The graduating class from West Point was going through at the same time. There was an officer in the class I respected. I was near the end of the stick, and the officer was at the front. When he descended something went wrong, and he broke his back.

I immediately turned to the sergeant in charge of my stick, and let him know I wanted to quit. He took me aside, and said, "784, I will let you quit if you will give me 21 drops of sweat, however, it's going to be in the building with two large fans blowing on you. The second option is to make one jump off the tower, and then if you want to quit I'll let you." I agreed, and he yelled, "Put 784 at the head of the line NOW." I made the jump, and then reported to him for my grade. He asked, "784, what is the most important aspect of military parachuting?" I replied, "Mental alertness, sergeant!" He replied, "784, that's correct! When I'm finished fall out to my left. Your descent was perfect, and so was your plf.was too. Everything was good. Fall out! 784, which direction did I tell you to fall out?" He had pointed to his right, and it was obvious I had messed up. He then pointed at the ground and yelled, " Hit it!" I dropped to do push-ups, and completed the usual 21, but I had screwed up again. He called me over and said, "784, you are going to be a good trooper, but please don't tell the others about my jokes."

“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-04-28   15:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: sneakypete (#71)

I can tell you about jump school in the summer of 64. There were no women,and my class started with a class of 425 students. 187 of us graduated 3 weeks later.

They made us run at a sprint from the first week to the second week area. I was a runner in high school, but I learned to run in airborne.

And jump school was considerably easier than Ranger School. Although to be fair,a considerable number of the class members that didn't make it quit as soon as they saw the 250 foot towers. This was before the first day of training. We rode past them on the way in,and they quit when the buses got there and unloaded.

Approximately 50% failed in my class.

“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-04-28   16:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: sneakypete (#86)

BTW,I know of several former Marines that got out of the Corps when their commitments were up and got into the army and SF,but this young Captain was the only one I ever heard of that did a lateral transfer. Frankly,I'm shocked the USMC let him do it. Force Recon officers are prized Marines,and they don

Likewise, I knew several who left Force Recon to become GB. SF.

“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-04-28   16:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: redleghunter (#49)

My brother-in-law was in the 1/7 in Nam.

“Let no one mourn that he has fallen again and again; for forgiveness has risen, from the grave.” John Chrysostom www.evidenceforJesusChrist.org

GarySpFC  posted on  2015-04-29   0:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: GarySpFC (#93)

My brother-in-law was in the 1/7 in Nam.

Was he there when Hal Moore was BN cdr?

"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-29   9:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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