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Title: U.S. Army FORCES Cadets to Wear High Heels to Promote Feminist Campaign
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URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/u-s-arm ... promote-feminist-campaign.html
Published: Apr 21, 2015
Author: Paul Joseph Watson
Post Date: 2015-04-23 13:17:42 by Deckard
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Cadets at Temple University were threatened that their careers would be finished if they refused to participate in a feminist campaign to promote the completely debunked college rape culture myth by wearing red spray painted high heels. Imagine what ISIS or the Russian military is thinking when they see these images. Third wave feminism has poisoned EVERYTHING, even the U.S. Military. UPDATE: Infowars was contacted by a former US Army servicemember who told us that his unit – Delta Company, 1st Battalion, 2nd Infantry Regiment, 172nd Infantry Brigade – was also FORCED to participate in the ‘Walk a Mile in Her Shoes’ event in 2011. “I was deployed in Afghanistan during this time, but my comrades in the rear told me this event was a MANDATORY,” he writes. “As a former medic, I know that the only way out of this was to lie about injuries or pull some form of guard duty at this time.” CLICK FOR ENLARGEMENT.
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#12. To: Gatlin (#11)
Don't believe everything anything you read from Infoward.... Male cadets with the ROTC at Arizona State University say they were pressed to wear high heels and participate in a staged event in order to draw attention to sexual violence against women. The program, “Wake a Mile in her Shoes,” isn’t new. But a year ago, the Army put it forth as voluntary. This year, ROTC candidates at the school say participation is mandatory, the Washington Times reported.
IJ Review reported one cadet wrote on an Imgr message board: “Attendance is mandatory and if we miss it we get a negative counseling and a ‘does not support the battalion sharp/EO mission’ on our CDT OER for getting the branch we want. So I just spent $16 on a pair of high heels that I have to spray paint red later on only to throw them in the trash after about 300 of us embarrass the U.S. Army.” The Army openly promoted the event on its website in 2014. An unlawful order for a few reasons: First such foot attire while performing military duties is harmful to a Soldier's feet, knees, and back. Second a commander cannot force a Soldier to wear clothing attire of the opposite sex. A commander CAN have a policy describing what 'proper attire' includes on his/her military installation (like no halter tops, cutoff jeans etc.) in public places like the PX or post bank. But he/she cannot prescribe the attire of the opposite sex as mandatory 'uniform' for an official event. If the Soldier, Airmen, Marine or Sailor voluntarily does so, then there is no foul other than destroying over two centuries of military tradition and good order and discipline. Lastly, and most important of the three reasons....This is just plain STUPID. Patton is rolling in his grave. Now I can see most of the Navy doing this voluntarily:)
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
I worked for the current CoS of the Army in two previous assignments. Once he gets all the facts of this some heads are going to roll. Big conservative football player Italian don looking voluntarily bald Generals don't put male Soldiers or cadets in women's shoes.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Yikes!
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
What do you expect when you have a faggot for President.
Which means the same thing. For young leaders I agree. It is like a unit commander saying "I am having a BBQ this weekend, not mandatory fun, just if you would like to come." Every junior officer is told such things are considered 'command presence' events. Meaning it is an invite you can RSVP to, but subconsiously sends the message you don't like your commander or his/her spouse or family. I remember planning a trip 6 months in advance for a weekend get away with my wife after a long time in the field training. We get back from the field and the commander invites everyone to his pool for dinner with little notice. I already had reservations, told my immediate boss and he said 'you know this is a 'command presence' event.' So by military tradition I jotted down a hand written note (RSVP) to the commander sending my 'regrets' that I would be out of town that weekend. He was cool about it and knew I had plans. Some commanders are not so cool about this and harbor large fragile egos.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
No "order" was given. Don't believe things you read from Infowars.
This year, ROTC candidates at the school say participation is mandatory, the Washington Times reported.
IJ Review reported one cadet wrote on an Imgr message board: “Attendance is mandatory and if we miss it we get a negative counseling and a ‘does not support the battalion sharp/EO mission’ on our CDT OER for getting the branch we want. So I just spent $16 on a pair of high heels that I have to spray paint red later on only to throw them in the trash after about 300 of us embarrass the U.S. Army.”
I wonder what that commander was thinking...I mean a good number of university athletes take ROTC with the intent of going Reserve or Guard and some Active duty. I mean what if a U of Arizona Offensive Guard shows up, all 330lbs of him and he has a 16EEEE shoe size. I mean how are they going to fit that guy in high heels?:) I guess he would have to rifle through Bruce Jenner's new wardrobe:)
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Patriotic young cadets — America’s future warrior — pressured to walk around in bright red high heels on campus — against their will – or face retribution. I don’t even know what to say… Army ROTC cadets are complaining on message boards that they were pressured to walk in high heels on Monday for an Arizona State University campus event designed to raise awareness of sexual violence against women. The Army openly encouraged participating in April’s “Walk A Mile in Her Shoes” events in 2014, but now it appears as though ROTC candidates at ASU were faced with a volunteer event that became mandatory. “Attendance is mandatory and if we miss it we get a negative counseling and a ‘does not support the battalion sharp/EO mission’ on our CDT OER for getting the branch we want. So I just spent $16 on a pair of high heels that I have to spray paint red later on only to throw them in the trash after about 300 of us embarrass the U.S. Army tomorrow,” one anonymous cadet wrote on the social media sharing website Imgr, IJReview reported Monday. "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
It was mandatory for the U of Arizona.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
WXTX Radio: Army Forces Cadets To Wear Red High Heels In Sexual Assault Awareness Event Army cadets in the ROTC program at Arizona State University were forced to parade around campus wearing red high heels or face punishment. The 'Walk A Mile in Her Shoes' events are meant to raise awareness about sexual assault. A photo of the recruits wearing the red heels was posted to Facebook where many mocked the program and were upset that the Army was forcing cadets to participate. One recruit had his rant posted on Reddit, where many slammed the event.
The event was not mandatory for Temple cadets.... no command pressure had been applied to convince members to participate.... 105 of the brigade's 120 members ignored it. You're a liar.
You're a liar. The Army openly encouraged participating in April’s “Walk A Mile in Her Shoes” events in 2014, but now it appears as though ROTC candidates at ASU were faced with a volunteer event that became mandatory. “Attendance is mandatory and if we miss it we get a negative counseling and a ‘does not support the battalion sharp/EO mission’ on our CDT OER for getting the branch we want. So I just spent $16 on a pair of high heels that I have to spray paint red later on only to throw them in the trash after about 300 of us embarrass the U.S. Army tomorrow,” one anonymous cadet wrote on the social media sharing website Imgr, IJReview reported Monday.
The Army openly encouraged participating in April’s “Walk A Mile in Her Shoes” events in 2014, but now it appears as though ROTC candidates at ASU were faced with a volunteer event that became mandatory. The Army brass are very sensitive to young cadets being subjected to such 'mandatory events.' IF there is something in writing making the event mandatory OR enough sworn written witness statements show the commander verbally made it mandatory...Then that commander will be relieved. The flipside is even if there is absence of the above, the commander will still be investigated for potentially using his/her command authority to promote a private event as a military event. Sponsoring an event is not the same as say a military formation, physical training, or military training events. Finally, the commander is an idiot. He/she should have known better that not even a local commander can change or modify the US Army uniform outside of AR 670-1 regulations. Commanders can make calls on mixing duty and PT uniforms for road march or sporting events.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Thanks....I did not see that. Edit: from your post: The whole thing is STUPID for whatever reason given. What is this modern day military coming to?
Regardless the ROTC commanders who even 'strongly suggested' such 'mandatory fun' will be in deep doo doo. Especially violating every uniform policy ever known. Making such modifications to the US Army uniform would at least require a regional ROTC commander (1 star General) approval. If that WAS approved by a regional commander, then he or she is in deep doo doo. Chief of Staff of the Army GEN (4 star) Ray Odierno would never put up with garbage like this.
"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)
Especially violating every uniform policy ever known. Making such modifications to the US Army uniform would at least require a regional ROTC commander (1 star General) approval. If that WAS approved by a regional commander, then he or she is in deep doo doo. Chief of Staff of the Army GEN (4 star) Ray Odierno would never put up with garbage like this. I agree....I would not have participated.
Heads should roll in this instance. Let's hope it will happen.
This has been coming in the AF since the 70s when they changed the testing system (for E5-E7) and added the (PME) Professional Military Education test. When they did this they made the PME test count as much as your career field test (100 points for each). This allowed some people to be promoted even though they weren't that knowledgeable in their career field. For the SRNCO promotion process they did away with the career field test, kept the PME test and would send you records before a review board. This board would look at your records and if you had the appropriate "brown noser" blocks filled (I.E. Base Commanders and Wing Commanders endorsement on your annual performance reports) you would get a higher board score than someone who knew/did their job better than you but didn't have the time to fill the "brown noser" blocks. So as you can see this lead to unqualified people being put in places of authority they shouldn't have been in. Reminds me of a lot of your typical run of the mill civilian government employee/politician. Now I'm not that familiar with the Army, Navy and Marine promotion processes so not sure if they are the same or slightly different.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I'm thinking there were some nutless SGM's associated with that,or it would have been stopped dead in it's tracks with a phone call or two to the Pentagram. There was an idiot General commanding Bragg around mid-68 that came up with the brilliant idea of building morale by having junior enlisted salute senior enlisted,and say "Good Morning Sergeant!". IIRC,that lasted about a week because everybody was harassing the hell out of the SGM's,who were used to walkking around at leisure everywhere they went,with nobody bugging them. It was a lot of fun to salute one and wait for him to return the salute,and then run to get ahead of him and salute him again. SMG's really need anger management classes.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The Navy,where "hotbunking" with your ship mates is a way of life.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You would hope the Commander would be relieved but I don't know if I would count on that happening. They way the political process is being instituted into everyday military business I wouldn't be surprised if he/she kept their job. I'm curious as to what advice the Commander got from his/her SRNCOs??
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
More than likely they need their Officers to "get a clue"... :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
The only COS of the US Army that I ever met was Schoomaker. I met him while I was working Robin Sage out of Bragg,and we talked for a little while. One thing I know from that meeting is how VERY heavily scheduled the life of a COS is,and that he is virtually a slave to the job with every waking instant scheduled,and a crew of bodyguards and assistants running all around him like moons around a planet to make sure he is where he needs to be when he needs to be there. One thing I am very sure of is that none of these people are even mildly amused about crap like this when it gets to the level it demands their attention and they have to fit a counseling session with some errant senior officer into their schedule between the other meetings they have to attend. I'm betting those are ass-chewings of an epic level. Schoomaker did not appear to me to be a man that would be amused about some idiot General needing counseling because he was abusing his troops and embarrassing the army at the same time. I doubt the guy in charge today is very different.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You can count on it. The guy that is responsible for the clusterBush,and his immediate superior are both toast. Him for coming up with this brain fart,and his superior for not nipping it in the bud. The guy with the idea (?) will be out of uniform against his will shortly,and his superior will be putting in his retirement papers when his current assignment ends because he knows he will never get promoted again. There won't be any press releases or publicity about it,but that's what's going to happen. A junior NCO or officer might get away with embarrassing the Army with just a slap on the wrist,but no senior NCO or Officer can do that and hope to survive. Think and say what you want about the senior commanders,but they love the Army as much as their love their families,and they just ain't going to stand for any idiot embarrassing either in public.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
We had a problem too in the Army until we went back to war as an Army. NCO (and officer)reports were highlighted with combat tour time AND how many Soldiers a leader actually leads. Before this change, you had supply NCOs and Corps Staff NCOs with no Soldiers under them rehearsing for every NCO of the month/quarter/year board and SGT Audie Murphy board that came up. As long as they looked good in uniform and had a bunch of education points and enrolled in college they did well. That tapered off after 9/11 when boards starting looking at 'fruit salad' of the combat variant and the number of Soldiers an NCO actually led and how that unit did in combat and training center rotations.
"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)
IIRC,that lasted about a week because everybody was harassing the hell out of the SGM's,who were used to walkking around at leisure everywhere they went,with nobody bugging them. It was a lot of fun to salute one and wait for him to return the salute,and then run to get ahead of him and salute him again. SMG's really need anger management classes. OH LOL! That's a great one. I am sure the grass cutting SGM mafia loved that one. Just imagine CSM Plumley getting a salute...
"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)
When I retired from the military, I attended a college in the deep south. A woman president of the college decided to hold a beauty contest for men dressing like women. No guys came out for the "beauty pageant." The idea quietly died. Unfortunately, the president wasn't fired. Normally, the military doesn't go in for such silliness, but things have changed a lot both in civilian life and the military life. That was one of the reasons I retired with nearly 25 years in the service.
Yep. Maybe they are females or homosexuals... Back in the day Army ROTC had one SF (green beret) SGM at each 'hub' school. Fordham back then had a large program and was a hub command with an 06. I don't see any SF SRNCO allowing that garbage to happen.
"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)
Yes every minute is tracked and a minute more even on the treadmill for PT in the morning is calculated for these 4 star Generals. Schoomaker? Would that be Peter Schoomaker? That was about ten years ago...was it that one? If so, great General and what a strategic thinker. One thing I am very sure of is that none of these people are even mildly amused about crap like this when it gets to the level it demands their attention and they have to fit a counseling session with some errant senior officer into their schedule between the other meetings they have to attend. I'm betting those are ass-chewings of an epic level. Schoomaker did not appear to me to be a man that would be amused about some idiot General needing counseling because he was abusing his troops and embarrassing the army at the same time. I doubt the guy in charge today is very different. Indeed you are correct.
"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)
Odierno looks like Marlon Brando in Apocalyse Now. He has a 'soft' voice like the godfather (also Brando). He is a tall and big man (not fat) and former USMA (West Point) football player. Quite an imposing figure. I spent quite a few late evenings (2100-2300 hrs) outside his office in line to get target packets signed for bomb drops or artillery missions the next day while in Iraq in 2006-2007. That 'soft' voice sometimes turned into a fury and boomed through the marble walls of the palace HQs. Then you see red faced COLs and LTCs scurring out and guess what....I'm next:0 I always had my stuff together most of the time had one of his 'boys' and my boss come in with me to discuss other things. It would be hey boss need to talk to you but LTC RLH needs to talk first. One time when I went up he was on the balcony with a large cigar with a big blue smoke cloud around him unwinding after a day riding and flying around visiting units. I went over he asked if the intel was good, I said yes and gave him the reasons why. He put the cigar in his mouth signed the packet. Like a scene from the Godfather movie:)
"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)
We probably had more than our fair share of SGM Plumley types,but in SF everybody pretty much knows all the SGM's personally,and know which ones you needed a really good head start on before saluting them. The good news is they weren't the type to try to bring you up on any formal charges. They were the type that liked to settle things on a "personal" level. Which meant I had to be careful walking around for a couple of days and pay attention to who was getting close to me. None really seemed to hold a grudge about it. Give them a couple of days to cool off some,and things were fine. I did push things too far once and ended up with a SGM "babysitter" named "Big Mac" McGuire for a couple of months,though. Everywhere he went,I went with him. I was doing some drinking back then,and can't remember now what it was I had done to draw so much attention,but I do know my drinking was drastically reduced after being tucked under his wing. We were hauling cases of C-Rats out to the Robin Sage teams once in his 56 Chevy pu and got a flat tire. He didn't have a jack,so he just took the lug nuts off and picked up the back of the truck by the bumper so I could change the tire. Did I mention that he also liked to fight? I had no fun at all the whole time I was working with him. The one time I did get him really steamed about something to the point where he threatened to kick my ass,I just got him confused by telling him that I didn't think a man as big as him could run fast enough to kick MY ass",and then got the hell out of Dodge while he was still confused. Last time I saw him was the day I reported back into Bragg after VN,and as I was walking though the 7th SFG company headquarters buildings,somebody came crashing through the screen door and down the steps to the sidewalk where I was walking. Big Mac stepped through the door and said "Well,I guess we know who the company SGM is now,don't we?" Big Mac was reporting in that day,too. Last I heard he was a fundie preacher in some small community,as mellow as could be,and a friend to all. BTW,I used to be friends with a senior NCO that had served with Plumley in the 82nd when they were both platoon sgts,and he said that Sam Elliot absolutely nailed Plumley's personality.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
That they have! For one thing,I don't remember so many people being so damn mad all the time back then.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Great Army 'war story' there Pete. BTW,I used to be friends with a senior NCO that had served with Plumley in the 82nd when they were both platoon sgts,and he said that Sam Elliot absolutely nailed Plumley's personality. Plumley passed away a few years ago my boss told me yesterday. My civilian boss was a former 1-7 Cav BN commander. Hal Moore and Plumley kept in touch with the unit as they were the honorary CDR/CSM regimental commander. My boss said Hal Moore used to come into his office on a Friday around noon and ask him where he stashed the booze:) Of course he had to explain the Army changed a bit:) He still said 'come on, I know you have some scotch around here somewhere." Hal Moore is still alive and 93. Just checked his public FB page.
"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)
Yup,and yup. I do think it was closer to 15 years ago than 10,though. Gen Bowra was still running SWC at the time,IIRC. I have a challenge coin he gave to me,and one that Gen Schoomaker gave to me sitting in a desk drawer. I'm fairly confident I won't be having to buy any drinks the next time I go to Bragg if there is a coin challenge. He was a old SOG recon guy (so was MG Bowra),and when he heard there was another old SOG recon guy working as a G-band chief,he came by to visit for a few minutes. He was already at SWC for some sort of meeting or briefing,so it was no big deal. He was in civilian clothes to try to pass himself off as a local instead of a 4-star,but I suspect the helicopter full of MP bodyguards looking suspiciously at everyone carrying weapons (which was everyone) gave him away. Not to mention his photo was hanging on the messhall walls at McCall. He definitely had a command presence about him that was unmistakeable,too. There was probably no crowd you could put him in where he didn't stand out as the Alpha male. I know one thing for a fact,and that is that *I* sure as hell wouldn't want to be a senior officer trying to explain a brain fart and public embarrassment to the Army like that to him. I have no idea where he is now or what he is doing,but I am certain that whatever it is,he is doing whatever it is as well as it can be done.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
A truly great American.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
If memory serves...Schoomaker was actually called out of retirment for the CoS gig after Shenseki (sp?).
"The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul.” (Psalm 121:7)
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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#13. To: Gatlin, Fred Mertz (#11)
(Edited)
The event was not mandatory for Temple cadets….no command pressure had been applied to convince members to participate
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#14. To: Deckard, liberator, GarySpFc, sneakypete, BobCeleste, CZ82 (#0)
#15. To: Don (#2)
#16. To: hondo68 (#5)
#17. To: redleghunter (#14)
An unlawful order for a few reasons:
#18. To: Fred Mertz (#8)
I'm sure it was Highly Recommended.
#19. To: redleghunter (#14)
An unlawful order for a few reasons...
The event was not mandatory for Temple cadets....
no command pressure had been applied to convince members to participate....
105 of the brigade's 120 members ignored it.
#20. To: Gatlin (#19)
Don't believe things you read from Infowars.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#21. To: Gatlin (#19)
Don't believe things you read from Infowars.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#22. To: Deckard, CZ82, liberator (#12)
Male cadets with the ROTC at Arizona State University say they were pressed to wear high heels and participate in a staged event in order to draw attention to sexual violence against women.
#23. To: Gatlin (#19)
Don't believe things you read from Infowars.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#24. To: Deckard (#13)
#25. To: Gatlin (#19)
#26. To: Gatlin (#19)
Don't believe things you read from Infowars.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#27. To: Gatlin (#19)
No "order" was given.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#28. To: Gatlin (#10)
(Edited)
The event was not mandatory for Temple cadets….no command pressure had been applied to convince members to participate...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#29. To: Deckard, CZ82, liberator, GarySpFc (#23)
Army ROTC cadets are complaining on message boards that they were pressured to walk in high heels on Monday for an Arizona State University campus event designed to raise awareness of sexual violence against women.
#30. To: redleghunter (#25)
(Edited)
It was mandatory for the U of Arizona.
I will go back and dig further. ... but now it appears as though ROTC candidates at ASU were faced with a volunteer event that became mandatory.
#31. To: Gatlin (#30)
#32. To: redleghunter (#31)
Regardless the ROTC commanders who even 'strongly suggested' such 'mandatory fun' will be in deep doo doo.
#33. To: redleghunter (#15)
#34. To: Gatlin, redleghunter, nolu chan and whoever was a Marine (#30)
What is this modern day military coming to?
#35. To: redleghunter (#14)
Second a commander cannot force a Soldier to wear clothing attire of the opposite sex.
#36. To: redleghunter (#14)
Now I can see most of the Navy doing this voluntarily:)
#37. To: redleghunter (#29)
The Army brass are very sensitive to young cadets being subjected to such 'mandatory events.' IF there is something in writing making the event mandatory OR enough sworn written witness statements show the commander verbally made it mandatory...Then that commander will be relieved.
#38. To: sneakypete (#35)
SMG's really need anger management classes.
#39. To: redleghunter (#31)
Chief of Staff of the Army GEN (4 star) Ray Odierno would never put up with garbage like this.
#40. To: Don (#33)
Heads should roll in this instance. Let's hope it will happen.
#41. To: CZ82 (#34)
Now I'm not that familiar with the Army, Navy and Marine promotion processes so not sure if they are the same or slightly different.
#42. To: sneakypete (#35)
There was an idiot General commanding Bragg around mid-68 that came up with the brilliant idea of building morale by having junior enlisted salute senior enlisted,and say "Good Morning Sergeant!".
#43. To: sneakypete (#40)
#44. To: CZ82 (#37)
I'm curious as to what advice the Commander got from his/her SRNCOs??
#45. To: sneakypete (#39)
The only COS of the US Army that I ever met was Schoomaker. I met him while I was working Robin Sage out of Bragg,and we talked for a little while. One thing I know from that meeting is how VERY heavily scheduled the life of a COS is,and that he is virtually a slave to the job with every waking instant scheduled,and a crew of bodyguards and assistants running all around him like moons around a planet to make sure he is where he needs to be when he needs to be there.
#46. To: sneakypete, CZ82, GarySpFc (#39)
I doubt the guy in charge today is very different.
#47. To: redleghunter (#42)
Just imagine CSM Plumley getting a salute...
#48. To: Don (#43)
things have changed a lot both in civilian life and the military life
#49. To: sneakypete (#47)
#50. To: redleghunter (#45)
Schoomaker? Would that be Peter Schoomaker? That was about ten years ago...was it that one? If so, great General and what a strategic thinker.
#51. To: redleghunter (#49)
Hal Moore is still alive and 93.
#52. To: sneakypete (#50)
Schoomaker
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