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Title: Guns in U.S. are ‘ultimate check against government tyranny’: Cruz
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepo ... ainst-government-tyranny-cruz/
Published: Apr 17, 2015
Author: Joel Connelly
Post Date: 2015-04-17 05:56:24 by out damned spot
Keywords: Guns, tyranny, Cruz
Views: 3126
Comments: 26

The right to gun ownership in America is not just about hunting, or protecting property and person, but “the ultimate check against government tyranny,” argues a fund appeal from Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz, R- Texas.

The Cruz fundraising letter echoes arguments made by militia groups, and a far-right demonstration last winter that followed voter passage of an initiative requiring criminal background checks for gun purchasers.

“The Second Amendment to the Constitution isn’t just for protecting hunting rights, and it’s not only to safeguard your right to target practice,” said Cruz, a former Texas solicitor general.

“It is a Constitutional right to protect your children, your family, your home, our lives and to serve as the ultimate check against government tyranny — for the protection of liberty.”

The argument was immediately challenged — and lampooned — by Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., another possible GOP candidate.

“Well, we tried that once in South Carolina. I wouldn’t go down that road again,” Graham told reporters in Washington, D.C.

Graham was referring to South Carolina as the first state to secede from the Union after Abraham Lincoln was elected president, and site of the first shots fired in the Civil War.

“I think an informed electorate is probably a better check than, you know, guns in the street,” Graham added.

Verbal shots fired by the two Republican White House hopefuls illustrate the direction taken by their party in recent years.

Graham was considered a conservative insurrectionist when he was elected to Congress as part of the GOP sweep in 1994. He is now a Senate insider. Cruz, elected in 2012, is far to his right and is already responsible for one partial shutdown of the federal government.

Graham argued that Republicans have a political target on which to take aim.

“I’m not looking for an insurrection,” he said. “I’m looking to defeat Hillary. We’re not going to out-gun her … I think in a democracy the best check on government is voter participation. I think the First Amendment probably protects us more.”

But Cruz is hoping to corral a key constituency among Republican voters and caucus-goers who will choose their party’s 2016 presidential nominee.

“I am the only candidate running for president who not only believes in the constitutional right to keep and bear arms — but has the record of fighting for it, tooth and nail.”

He has competition. Ex-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio spoke at the just-completed National Rifle Association convention. (1 image)

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#4. To: out damned spot (#0)

“Well, we tried that once in South Carolina. I wouldn’t go down that road again,” Graham told reporters in Washington, D.C.

Good grief... It takes a posturing stooge like Cruz to make Lindsey Graham look reasonable and rational...

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-17   9:16:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Willie Green (#4)

So you are against the second amendment? What part of Cruz's statement do you find untrue?

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-04-17   10:49:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Dead Culture Watch (#5)

In today's world, I believe that the 2nd Amendment only serves a legitimate purpose for individual self-defense against criminals.

Cruz's whacknut rhetoric about "government tyranny" may have made sense in the late 18th Century, but it merely encourages the kooks and endangers the general public in the 21st Century.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-17   11:30:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Willie Green (#6)

Cruz's whacknut rhetoric about "government tyranny" may have made sense in the late 18th Century, but it merely encourages the kooks and endangers the general public in the 21st Century.

Well, if the government as you see it is not criminal, then I can't help you. You've seen all the stories for many years about just how corrupt these bastards are, so, sigh......

However, since you seem to agree that the second amendment has a place, if the 'kooks' are right, they will have the means to self defense and setting up a good perimeter as they erect the guillotines.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-04-17   23:17:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dead Culture Watch (#17)

Well, if the government as you see it is not criminal, then I can't help you. You've seen all the stories for many years about just how corrupt these bastards are, so, sigh......

And you, Cruz, Wayne LaPierre & Timothy McVeigh think that an armed insurrection is the appropriate mechanism for "regime change?"

No thanks... As far as I'm concerned, the government needs to lock-up the anti-government kooks to protect us law abiding citizens, If that means registering and regulating who can own handguns or rifles or what types of ammo & magazines they can use, so be it. I'm not interested in supporting any domestic anti-government terrorists posturing as self-anointed "patriotic" militia... They're actually nothing but a bunch of dangerous, paranoid dingbats.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-04-18   7:38:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Willie Green (#19)

Dead Culture Watch (#17) ---- Well, if the government as you see it is not criminal, then I can't help you. You've seen all the stories for many years about just how corrupt these bastards are, so, sigh......

Willy ---- And you, Cruz, Wayne LaPierre & Timothy McVeigh think that an armed insurrection is the appropriate mechanism for "regime change?"

Get real Willy... Armed insurrection would be a last resort, as the 2nd guarantees.

No thanks... As far as I'm concerned, the government needs to lock-up the anti- government kooks to protect us law abiding citizens, If that means registering and regulating who can own handguns or rifles or what types of ammo & magazines they can use, so be it.

Yep, so be it, Willy. Your treasonous, anti-constitutional political stance is guaranteed by the very constitution you disdain.

I'm not interested in supporting any domestic anti-government terrorists posturing as self-anointed "patriotic" militia... They're actually nothing but a bunch of dangerous, paranoid dingbats.

Look in a mirror Willy, -- you'll see a dangerous, paranoid, dingbat..

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-19   17:21:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: tpaine (#21)

Armed insurrection would be a last resort, as the 2nd guarantees.

President Bush call[ed] the Constitution a "goddamned piece of paper."

The report was posted on Dec. 5, 2005. According to author, Doug Thompson, unnamed Republican leaders complained to Bush during a White House meeting about "onerous" portions of the USA Patriot Act, prompting the following:

Capitol Hill Blue: “I don’t give a goddamn,” [G.W.] Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

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