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Title: First of thousands of Syrians Resettled in ….. North Texas
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URL Source: http://pamelageller.com/2015/04/fir ... resettled-in-north-texas.html/
Published: Apr 12, 2015
Author: Pamela Geller
Post Date: 2015-04-12 08:29:20 by out damned spot
Keywords: Syrians, resettled, Texas
Views: 22324
Comments: 103

Importing Jihad Refugee Resettlement: The quiet Jihad tsunami

The FBI admits that they cannot properly screen the Syrians, while the US State Department is telling the media that 10,000 Syrians will be here soon. Syria, home of the Islamic State.

Al hijrah, jihad by immigration.

And while the genocide of Christians is ongoing in Syria, over 90% of the Syrians who are being brought to America are Muslims. It’s a catastrophe. The top five states targeted for Syrian Muslim resettlement are California, Illinois, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Texas.

Meanwhile, dozens of American jihadis who fought in the war in Iraq and Syria have returned to the United States, equipped with the training they used fighting either for or against ISIS, according to one federal official.

Maybe the State Department can reunite these two very similar Muslim groups.

“First Syrians arrive in North Texas,” by Ann Corcoran, RRW, on April 11, 2015

If you haven’t already, you will be seeing more warm and fuzzy stories like this one in your states as the Syrian refugees begin to arrive. We have taken in 682 so far. See my post of last Saturday and see which states they went to.

As the FBI says they cannot properly screen Syrians, the US State Department seems to be still telling the media that 10,000 will be here soon.

The contractors want 65,000 by the end of 2016!

From WFAA (Dallas) which implies only a handful have arrived in Texas, however, Texas has received at least 86 so far and as the top resettlement state in the nation, it will receive the most Syrians.

Doing well by doing good: Heather Reynolds is CEO of Catholic Charities Ft. Worth and is one of the leaders resettling Middle Easterners to Dallas/Ft. Worth. In her mid-30’s, Ms. Reynolds pulls down a cool $199,324 in salary and related income. In a recent form 990 we learned that this Catholic Charities office took in almost $17 million in revenue and $9 million came from you through government grants.

http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2013/750/808/2013- 750808769-0ae83cfc-9.pdf

No surprise that the refugee industry puts its most appealing refugees (like these cute girls) out for PR campaigns. The mainstream media eats it up!

Eight Syrian refugee families call North Texas home right now — four in Dallas and four in Fort Worth. But Basatneh [Syrian American Council] said more are on their way after the U.S. State Department agreed to accept as many as 10,000.

Watch the clip where we are told that “it is our duty” to take them in and that 1,000 will be coming to Texas within the year? Say what!

We are told the flow will be on par with the Iraqi flow which stands at 20,000 per year right now.

And, note the lovely apartment the family has received, I bet there are some needy Americans in Dallas/Ft. Worth who would love a place like that!

So who is doing the seeding of refugees in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area?

Four of the nine major contractors have divided up what must be a large flow to Ft. Worth:

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#1. To: out damned spot (#0)

" First of thousands of Syrians Resettled in ….. North Texas "

Man o man! Doesn't that just make you as proud as a peacock to be an American Taxpayer ??

Well, the Soap Box, the Jury Box, and the Ballot Box are all broke and worthless !

I do not see this nation holding together for a whole lot longer !

We are going the way of the Roman Empire & will end up the same !!

God help us !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-04-12   8:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: out damned spot (#0)

Doing well by doing good: Heather Reynolds is CEO of Catholic Charities Ft. Worth and is one of the leaders resettling Middle Easterners to Dallas/Ft. Worth. In her mid-30’s, Ms. Reynolds pulls down a cool $199,324 in salary and related income. In a recent form 990 we learned that this Catholic Charities office took in almost $17 million in revenue and $9 million came from you through government grants. http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2013/750/808/2013-750808769-0ae83cfc-9.pdf

 

 

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VxH  posted on  2015-04-12   11:16:26 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner (#1)

I do not see this nation holding together for a whole lot longer !

That's according to plan. The nation that has given the greatist economic opportunity and released more creativity and industriousness than any other in the history of mankind is due to be disassembled by crackpot politicians, subversives, and parasites crusading under the self-righteous construct that it represents inequality. You got a problem with that?

rlk  posted on  2015-04-12   12:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: rlk (#3)

YES! But unfortunately Robert, like everyone else all I can do is observe and be disgruntled.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-04-12   12:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: out damned spot (#0)

Doing well by doing good: Heather Reynolds is CEO of Catholic Charities Ft. Worth and is one of the leaders resettling Middle Easterners to Dallas/Ft. Worth. In her mid-30’s, Ms. Reynolds pulls down a cool $199,324 in salary and related income. In a recent form 990 we learned that this Catholic Charities office took in almost $17 million in revenue and $9 million came from you through government grants.

Thanks for saving me the trouble of looking it up. The Catholic Church is as big an enemy and as dangerous to America and our Constitution as the Soviet Union ever was. They were the ones behind the big push to resettle all the El Salvadorian communists here in the US after they were defeated in El Salvador.

They should have their tax-free charity license pulled,and be taxed at the highest corporate rate on profits and property. Same with any other "religion" that is in the "charity business" via government contracts.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-13   9:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: VxH (#2)

Doing well by doing good: Heather Reynolds is CEO of Catholic Charities Ft. Worth

I'm wondering which political insider or office holder she is related to. Getting relatives positions like this is how they launder the bribe money. Just look at all the non-performance positions Chelsea Clinton has held without actually having to do any work for proof of this.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-13   9:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: VxH (#2)

Doing well by doing good: Heather Reynolds is CEO of Catholic Charities Ft. Worth and is one of the leaders resettling Middle Easterners to Dallas/Ft. Worth. In her mid-30’s, Ms. Reynolds pulls down a cool $199,324 in salary and related income. In a recent form 990 we learned that this Catholic Charities office took in almost $17 million in revenue and $9 million came from you through government grants.

Good find.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-13   9:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete, Vicomte13, TooConservative, tomder55, liberator (#5)

Thanks for saving me the trouble of looking it up. The Catholic Church is as big an enemy and as dangerous to America and our Constitution as the Soviet Union ever was. They were the ones behind the big push to resettle all the El Salvadorian communists here in the US after they were defeated in El Salvador.

I think many American Catholics ask the question "is Catholic Charities really 'Catholic.'"

I will let Vic opine on this.

Many conservative Catholics I know won't give a red cent to this organization.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-13   9:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter, sneakypete, Vicomte13, TooConservative, liberator (#8)

"But the understanding of poverty as often inseparable from moral and cultural considerations disintegrated in the late 1960s. Swept up in the decade's tumult and encouraged by the modernizing spirit of the second Vatican Council, Catholic Charities rejected its long-standing emphasis on personal responsibility and self-reliance and began to blame capitalist society rather than individual behavior for poverty and crime. It now looked to the welfare state to solve all social problems. Today, through a continual whirlwind of policy statements and lobbying, and by fostering countless activist community organizations, Catholic Charities has become, as Richard John Neuhaus, a priest and editor of the esteemed religious journal First Things, puts it, "a chief apologist for a catastrophically destructive welfare system, and it stands in the way of developing alternatives to help people break out of dependency and take charge of their lives.""

http://www.city-journal.org/html/10_1_how_catholic_charities.html

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-04-13   10:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Stoner (#1)

(" First of thousands of [Muslim] Syrians Resettled in ….. North Texas ")

Man o man! Doesn't that just make you as proud as a peacock to be an American Taxpayer ??

Sickening. But it's supposed to be, isn't it 'Number 41'? (reference to Ben-Hur rowing scene.)

'OPERATION: MORALE CRUSHER' is going according to plan along with 'OPERATION: YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!' and 'OPERATION: IMPORT THE JIHADISTS'

Notice the tactical troop movement of enemy divisions...er...I mean "immigrants" of imported Muzzies? (Minnesota, Maine, and now the Texas Panhandle? ALL of it conducted without proper Congressional authorization.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   13:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: VxH (#2)

A quisling is a person who collaborates with an enemy occupying force.

Heather Reynolds is CEO of Catholic Charities Ft. Worth and is one of the leaders resettling Middle Easterners to Dallas/Ft. Worth. In her mid-30’s, Ms. Reynolds pulls down a cool $199,324 in salary and related income.

What do we do when THE actual "occupying force" resides in DC??

Reynolds is merely a face of the quisling/treasonous misnomer, 'Catholic Charities.' She banks $199k as just one more a "bagman" and smuggler of illegal arms into the USA: Militant Muslim "immigrants."

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   13:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: rlk, Stoner (#3)

That's [this nation holding together for a whole lot longer] according to plan.

THE Globalist Plan to destroy the sovereignty of the USA has been Green-Lighted in the open since the treasonous Poppy Bush infamously referred to deferring OUR best interests to "New World Order" back in 1991(?)

The nation that has given the greatist economic opportunity and released more creativity and industriousness than any other in the history of mankind is due to be disassembled by crackpot politicians, subversives, and parasites crusading under the self-righteous construct that it represents inequality.

Your characterization of our former great nation is correct. We are only a "nation" on paper -- an illusions otherwise is just wishful thinking. The Plan has been to siphon America's (and West's) wealth from the middle class and redistribute it -- ostensibly to the world's "poor," but we know it's siphons straight into the pockets of the self-anointed globalist elites/gods.

We have been victimized by the greatest PsyOp in history. This "equality" bandwagon has been filled to the brim with cutesy Leftist sloganeering like "tolerance, enpowerment," "social justice," Women's rights,"and "fair share." All of which have been pounded mercilessly into the mushy brains of children and student since the late 1960s. It's been a campaign to subvert the language and calling good "evil and lies "truth."

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   13:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: VxH (#2)

Vidkun Quisling ran occupied Norway for Hitler and cooperated in the Holocaust . He was executed by firing squad after the war, but his name remains a noun for traitor .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-04-13   13:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Stoner (#4)

All I can do is observe and be disgruntled.

Yes, it's about all we can do. Marinate in our own bile because politically, EVERY day is no different than the next. Unless Ted Cruz is elected, it's over.

Best thing to do now? Dismiss it. Ignore the news. Leave the material world behind. Live your mortal life and find joy where you can. Create your own world. And speak about and be joyous in the knowledge that when you pass on, your real life has only begun.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   13:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator (#14)

Unless Ted Cruz is elected, it's over.

You are resting your hopes upon an empty mirage that will evaporate. Cruz is no better than the rest of them.

rlk  posted on  2015-04-13   13:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete, out damned spot (#5)

The Catholic Church is as big an enemy and as dangerous to America and our Constitution as the Soviet Union ever was. They were the ones behind the big push to resettle all the El Salvadorian communists here in the US after they were defeated in El Salvador.

I wouldn't go that far, but the Vatican has long been a subversive political influence -- especially lately. Is it a Nation pretending to be a Religion or Religion masquerading as "Nation"? Moreover, any Pope who kisses the Koran and NEVER openly criticizes the Death Cult of Islam indicts the Vatican as an enabler of evil and enemy of the God it claims to worship.

There is NO way a religious sect should also have a seat at the UN -- as well as a status as a "sovereign nation." Yet, the Vatican is and does. This way it easily moles its way into ALL international affairs (like smuggling illegals and leftists into the USA and engaging in "King-Making" in South America) with impunity.

Not all of the Catholic Church is evil and political. Much of its lower ranking soldiers are sincerely helping people. It is its hierarchy (HQ: Vatican) whose motives and deeds are...subversive, secret, questionable, and protected.

Btw -- 'Catholic Charities' is just a Leftist Front.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   13:59:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: rlk (#15)

You are resting your hopes upon an empty mirage that will evaporate. Cruz is no better than the rest of them.

"Empty mirage"? I don't see anyone else punching back at both the GOPe and Dem establishment, do you?

You're not paying attention. We're boxed in at Dunkirk. Pick a leader or surrender NOW.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   14:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Liberator (#12) (Edited)

Part of the Psy-Op plan is to give you and other voters a candidate who seems like the greatest thing since Apple Pie Ala Mode. Voters will vote in the person who may well drive in the remaining coffin nails.

Don't bother telling me I'm not paying attention.

Don  posted on  2015-04-13   14:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter, sneakypete, Vicomte13, TooConservative, tomder55 (#8)

I think many American Catholics ask the question "is Catholic Charities really 'Catholic.'"

Exactly.

It's great to co-opt labels, ain't it? In this case, two of them.

any conservative Catholics I know won't give a red cent to this organization.

They don't need blue collar Catholic contributions. Since I believe this is a front, 'Catholic Charities' most main sources of contributions can be found deeeeply underground. As in the cave and tunnels where subversives dwell.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   14:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Don (#18)

Part of the Psy-Op plan is to give you and other voters a candidate who seems like the greatest thing since Apple Pie Ala Mode.

Don, I haven't seen that Apple Pie A La Mode since Reagan. Since then the RNC has been slinging nothing but mud pies, then telling us, "This is all we have, but you should love it because....IT'S ALL YOU'RE GETTING!!"

Voters will vote in the person who may well drive in the remaining coffin nails.

Maybe. Depends on whether the computerized results and "newly found" ballots create the usual win for the Dem. In the Dems' case, a whole lotta Mexicans, dead voters, computerize phantoms "voters," and urban votes where 120% of registered votes result in "Democrat."

There will be no perfect candidate. I just want someone who will fight The Power. And establish a cushion of sanity.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   14:14:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#20)

There will be no perfect candidate. I just want someone who will fight The Power. And establish a cushion of sanity.

Then you'd better vote third party.

rlk  posted on  2015-04-13   14:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#9)

...Catholic Charities rejected its long-standing emphasis on personal responsibility and self-reliance and began to blame capitalist society rather than individual behavior for poverty and crime.

It now looked to the welfare state [aka Socialism/Marxism] to solve all social problems. Today, through a continual whirlwind of policy statements and lobbying, and by fostering countless activist community organizations...

(I'll finish):

...as a radical Leftist org, endorsing and embracing fascist-Marxist doctrine contrary to the US Constitutions, US sovereignty and the capitalist system.

It is a Trojan Horse enemy of freedom and....God.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   14:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: rlk (#21)

Then you'd better vote third party.

Instead of Ted Cruz?

Whom do endorse as a viable candidate that gives America a fighting chance?

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   14:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Don (#18)

Yes, I am acutely aware of the Hegelian dialectic. Despite that, have you a candidate you're willing to support ? Or voting for? Or shall we ignore all politics and illusion of choice? Or is it possible to re-create a new reality at this point in time?

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-13   14:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#23)

Whom do endorse as a viable candidate that gives America a fighting chance?

Last presidential election I voted for Goode of the Constitution Party. Additionally, I was a Perot supporter. Who did you vote for?

rlk  posted on  2015-04-13   14:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator (#24)

What new reality would you like? A fantasy reality really doesn't qualify as a reality, old or new.

One fantasy is this nation's laws and political system still works. To answer your question simply regarding a candidate I would support, No. Are you going to make the standard comment that I should vote for the lesser of the evils simply because not voting is not a valid option?

Don  posted on  2015-04-13   15:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#20)

The power is firmly entrenched. When these people take over a nation, they wrap their tentacles around the neck of the nation until resistors either surrender or die. They are too close to achieving their goals to let any "fighter" easily overcome their aims. If this nation was still a godly nation, I would have some confidence in taking back this nation. This nation has turned its back on God, and I believe He has turned His back on this nation.

Don  posted on  2015-04-13   16:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#5)

The Catholic Church is a dictatorship, and King maker. Given the power and influence to pull politics into their sphere completely they have done so many times in the past. The reason most immigration into America has been from Catholic dominated countries, political power. America was formed as a breakaway from the theocracy of the Church of England. The Pope moved the French and Spain to change the balance of power in the years before and after the Civil War. Same "game" as todays swarms of Catholics from Central America. I don't hate Catholics, but the Pope to me is just slightly different than a Muslim cleric. You give him the power to make war, and he will make it happen. The Catholic heirarchy is just weaker now than in the past, but still infected with the need for power.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-04-13   17:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Don (#27)

Amen Don, AMEN. I will be shocked if we make it to 2017 without a complete "reset" of the financial order of our once blessed nation. Our border of Gods protection was removed on 9-11-01 with an attack on Wall St/financial centers. What did we do? We defiantly rebuilt instead of hitting our knees in prayer. 7 years later, the great depression hit us with another warning, repent and turn to God. In the fall of 2015, it will have been another 7 year cycle. I am no prophet, but if I were invested in the stock market I would sell before September.

One caveat though, God hasn't turned his back on us. We have turned our back on him. What we are living through is what life looks like to the rest of the world that live like heathens.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-04-13   18:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: out damned spot (#0)

First of thousands of Syrians Resettled in ….. North Texas

Target practice for cops with itchy trigger fingers.

Percy Misanthrope  posted on  2015-04-13   18:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: jeremiad (#28) (Edited)

The Catholic Church is a dictatorship, and King maker.

It is actually a republic. They elect their leader.

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-13   18:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: jeremiad (#28)

The reason most immigration into America has been from Catholic dominated countries, political power.

This is a joke, right?

America is 20% Catholic, and the percentage has gone up in recent years due to immigration. Historically, European immigrants to America were mostly Protestant.

England is a Protestant country. When the first English colony was founded in America, England was already a Protestant country. America didn't fill up with people fleeing Catholic persecution, it filled up, first, with English Protestants fleeing Protestant persecution.

The Germans who came early were Quakers and Brethren, and they were fleeing Protestant persecution in Northern Germany.

This notion that most immigration into America has been from Catholic- dominated countries is ludicrous.

Catholic immigration came out of Ireland, first. Ireland, a land where the Protestants slaughtered and abused the Catholics for a few hundred years. America was a refuge for Irish Catholics FROM Protestants, never the other way around. The Protestant Irish who came, came because England - a Protestant country - wrecked their textile industry. It wasn't to "flee the Catholics", whom they held firmly in subjection.

20% of the population is Catholic, and that's INCLUDING all the recent Latino immigration. America filled up with Protestants fleeing other Protestants, not Protestants fleeing Catholics.

The English were not fleeing Catholics. The Germans and Dutch were not fleeing Catholics. The Scandinavians were not fleeing Catholics.

Honestly, where do you Protestants come up with these ideas? Who tells you these lies?

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-04-13   19:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter (#32)

England is a Protestant country. When the first English colony was founded in America, England was already a Protestant country. America didn't fill up with people fleeing Catholic persecution, it filled up, first, with English Protestants fleeing Protestant persecution.

If American had been discovered sooner I wouldn't be afraid to say the first people to come here would have been trying to escape Catholic persecution.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-04-13   19:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: redleghunter (#8)

Many conservative Catholics I know won't give a red cent to this organization.

I have no doubt at all about that being true. What I question is how anyone that contributes can make sure none of their contributions is used for things like that,or to support "Liberation Theology"?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-13   20:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#16)

Not all of the Catholic Church is evil and political.

Of course not. I have no doubt the majority of the members are devout and serious about their beliefs,but the thing is they are so loyal to "The Holy Mother Church" that they will continue to support anything and everything the Vatican proposes.

IMHO,the leadership is completely corrupted.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-13   20:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Don, Liberator (#18)

Part of the Psy-Op plan is to give you and other voters a candidate who seems like the greatest thing since Apple Pie Ala Mode.

Think "Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football",and you won't be far off base.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-13   20:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Liberator (#19)

Since I believe this is a front, 'Catholic Charities' most main sources of contributions can be found deeeeply underground.

IMHO,a wholly-owned subsidiary of "Global Government,Inc".

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-13   20:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: jeremiad (#28)

The Catholic Church is a dictatorship, and King maker.

And sometimes a King Executioner.

It has been that way since Day One.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-13   20:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Pericles (#31)

It is actually a republic. They elect their leader.

No,they don't. The Catholic public has no say-so whatsoever. It is a cabal of Cardinals that elect Gawd's Right Hand Man.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-13   20:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Don (#27)

" If this nation was still a godly nation, I would have some confidence in taking back this nation. This nation has turned its back on God, and I believe He has turned His back on this nation "

I believe you are correct !

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-04-13   21:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Stoner (#1)

God help us !!

Why should He bother?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-04-13   21:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Pericles (#31)

A Republic? Who gets the vote? I guess it is like an appointed Congress with the power to vote. It is a dictatorship, like the Mafia voting on Capo de Capo.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-04-13   23:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Vicomte13 (#32)

Of course the early nation was filled with Non-Catholics. People came out looking to escape the dictatorial power of the King(Anglican church) and the Pope(Catholic church). We booted the power of the Anglican church by revolution, then the Catholic church has fought to bring us to heel for years. The goal of the Catholic church is not to bring the Gospel to people, it is to accumulate power and wealth.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-04-13   23:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Stoner (#40)

" If this nation was still a godly nation, I would have some confidence in taking back this nation. This nation has turned its back on God, and I believe He has turned His back on this nation "

This nation has turned its back on everthing and has become a nation of unruly self obsessed incompetent fifth graders.

rlk  posted on  2015-04-14   0:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete, jeremiad (#39)

No,they don't. The Catholic public has no say-so whatsoever. It is a cabal of Cardinals that elect Gawd's Right Hand Man.

A Republic? Who gets the vote? I guess it is like an appointed Congress with the power to vote. It is a dictatorship, like the Mafia voting on Capo de Capo.

Why do you assume the USA's version of a republic is the only model?

Has anyone ever read Plato's Republic on here?

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-14   6:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Pericles (#45)

Why do you assume the USA's version of a republic is the only model?

Because it is the modern model we live under,and the one you are always attacking.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-14   6:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Liberator (#16)

Is it a Nation pretending to be a Religion or Religion masquerading as "Nation"?

Fallible and uninspired men have assumed dominion over faith of others...

Same Ol Ba'al shyte, different collective/municipal toilet.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-14   7:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Pericles (#45) (Edited)

Has anyone ever read Plato's Republic on here?

I have. A Republic is simply a framework of government constituted by law.

It is the specified PURPOSE for government that differentiates the American experiment from other Republics:

"TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, [American] governments are in instituted among men..." ---The American Declaration of Independence

VxH  posted on  2015-04-14   7:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: rlk (#44) (Edited)

This nation has turned its back on everthing and has become a nation of unruly self obsessed incompetent fifth graders.

Romans 1:25+

"They worshiped and served created things... and because of this God gave them over to their perversions"

Same ol' collective behavior, same ol' natural consequences.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-14   7:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete (#38)

And sometimes a King Executioner.

The Romans always had a knack for mobilizing and manipulating the Mob with bread, circuses, and state-established superstition.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-14   7:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Pericles (#31) (Edited)

It is actually a republic. They elect their leader.

LOL. It's no more of a Government Of, By, and For the People than the facade facilitated by the Oprichni secret police/KGB/FSB in the Orthodox Russian state-establishment.

Same ol' theocratic Ba'al-shyte, different municipal toilet.

www.google.com/search?q=N...e+is+no+god+but+the+czar"

"AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE"

VxH  posted on  2015-04-14   7:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: rlk (#25)

Last presidential election I voted for Goode of the Constitution Party. Additionally, I was a Perot supporter.

How did that all turn out?

Who did you vote for?

Rooted against 0bola, but NO ONE.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   11:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Don (#26) (Edited)

What new reality would you like? A fantasy reality really doesn't qualify as a reality, old or new.

Ted Cruz is as close to true "Hope and Change" as there is IMO. I don't believe his Presidency is so much fantasy as destined to be sabotaged by the elites.

One fantasy is this nation's laws and political system still works.

It's broken, no doubt.

To answer your question simply regarding a candidate I would support, No. Are you going to make the standard comment that I should vote for the lesser of the evils simply because not voting is not a valid option?

It's your prerogative to perceive "evil" or the validity of the ballot box any way you need to. But then again, are you really making no distinction between say Hitlery and Cruz? Or 0bola and Cruz (and anyone else?) Are they both "evil," as well as to the same degree?

THIS may well be the last legit election (and I say "may" because IMO 2012's election results were bogus.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   11:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Don (#27)

The power is firmly entrenched. When these people take over a nation, they wrap their tentacles around the neck of the nation until resistors either surrender or die. They are too close to achieving their goals to let any "fighter" easily overcome their aims.

I tend to agree with your assessment. For this reason I believe the campaign of Cruz will be sabotaged at all costs.

If this nation was still a godly nation, I would have some confidence in taking back this nation. This nation has turned its back on God, and I believe He has turned His back on this nation.

On this point we also agree. As this nation has continued to turn its back on God, He is doing the same. We are now at the cusp of the "cursed" stage (of which we deserve, frankly.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   11:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: sneakypete (#35)

IMHO,the leadership is completely corrupted.

Yup, And has been for centuries.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   11:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: sneakypete, Don (#36)

Think "Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football",and you won't be far off base.

That would be the globalist-controlled RNC's love-child, the GOP -- wouldn't it?

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   11:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#37)

IMHO, (Catholic Charities) a wholly-owned subsidiary of "Global Government,Inc".

Agree.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   11:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: rlk, Stoner (#44)

This nation has turned its back on everthing and has become a nation of unruly self obsessed incompetent fifth graders.

You've described an epidemic of puerile narcissism. That's what happens when a people and nation instead of worshiping God, turn their back on Him and instead worship...themselves.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   11:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Pericles (#45)

Why do you assume the USA's version of a republic is the only model?

Has anyone ever read Plato's Republic on here?

Did Plato write a Greek Constitution?

Did Greece produce the equivalent of American Founders dedicated to liberty, freedom, and individual rights inherent as "God-given"?

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   11:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: VxH (#47)

Fallible and uninspired men have assumed dominion over faith of others...

That may well be describing the Vatican but NOT "Christianity." In THAT case the Holy Spirit assumes dominion over the human heart and spirit."

On the shoulders of THIS faith America became great.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   11:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Liberator (#59)

Did Plato write a Greek Constitution?

Did Greece produce the equivalent of American Founders dedicated to liberty, freedom, and individual rights inherent as "God-given"?

Plato documented various forms of 'republics' - republic is any govt that is based on rules. A tyranny is based on the whims of one man - he is the law and above the law. In a republic - regardless of if there is universal sufferage or not - the appointed or elected or inherited rulers are bound by laws and their powers are limited and deliniated.

That is why the commies could call their system "republics". That is why Venice was a republic. The Founding Fathers were in awe of the Greeks and Romans - America's system is Roman system pre empire. Which means the USA is also prone to having it's Republic one day become a autocracy.

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-14   11:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: VxH (#51)

It is actually a republic. They elect their leader.

LOL. It's no more of a Government Of, By, and For the People than the facade facilitated by the Oprichni secret police/KGB/FSB in the Orthodox Russian state-establishment.

A republic does not need to be "a Government Of, By, and For the People" - that is not what republic means.

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-14   12:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: VxH (#50)

The Romans always had a knack for mobilizing and manipulating the Mob with bread, circuses, and state-established superstition.

You sound like you think the Romans in charge were not religious men - were not as superstitious as their citizens?

It is now considered more accurate to think that the Romans deeply believed their religion and superstitions. They actually did think the gods would punish Rome if a ritual or sacrifice was not performed, etc.

Also, it was a long established belief that the Romans were tricking the people into submission by providing them with bread and circuses - free food and distractions - but now scholars are of the opinion the Roman senate feared the public and these were bribes to prevent the citizenry from turning on them.

In other words, there was real power that the Roman citizen had and the Roman citizen very much intended to get a benefit from the empire and that they always watched to make sure the senate elite did not steal it all for themselves.

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-14   12:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#46)

Why do you assume the USA's version of a republic is the only model?

Because it is the modern model we live under,and the one you are always attacking.

The Catholic church as it operates in Rome is at least 1,500 to 2,000 years old so why deny them the use of the term republic when they are more contemporaries of Plato more than the modern versions?

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-14   12:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Pericles (#61) (Edited)

Plato documented various forms of 'republics' - republic is any govt that is based on rules. A tyranny is based on the whims of one man - he is the law and above the law. In a republic - regardless of if there is universal sufferage or not - the appointed or elected or inherited rulers are bound by laws and their powers are limited and deliniated.

That is why the commies could call their system "republics".

"Rules"? You mean like a Bill of Rights and Constitution?

Yes, both are mere squares of Charmin if unenforced or upheld by the appointed authorities.

Simply defined, a "Republic" is a representative government. The citizenry elects it's representatives at a local level, county, state, and so forth. There is no king or queen (as in a monarchy.)

ANY "commies" calling their socialist-slave state a "Republic" is lying (as is their wont.)

"Tyranny" can indeed be based upon the whim of one man OR a mob -- as are Communists, Fascists, or...those who cruelly enslave or limit or unfairly withhold freedom without consent of the governed.

The Founding Fathers were in awe of the Greeks and Romans - America's system is Roman system pre empire. Which means the USA is also prone to having it's Republic one day become a autocracy.

True, the American Founder admired tsome of the political systems and ideals of the Romans and Greeks -- most notably, a Senate of representatives. Only the American Founders built upon and refined their systems of a true representative government. This begot an economic system where the poor could become wealthy based on individual economic freedom as well as personal freedom. Both the Greek and Roman Empires were weighted down and eventually destroyed within through...slavery and diluted nationalism.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   13:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Pericles, VxH (#62)

A republic does not need to be "a Government Of, By, and For the People" - that is not what republic means.

Uh, yes it is. HELLO. A "Republic" is by definition a representative government.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   13:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Pericles (#63)

In other words, there was real power that the Roman citizen had and the Roman citizen very much intended to get a benefit from the empire and that they always watched to make sure the senate elite did not steal it all for themselves.

One parallel in this case is that *neither* Roman citizens OR Americans (or for that matter ANY of the world's citizenry) are capable of truly monitoring their respective government reps for corruption and administering justice. The elites are immune from the law. How do we know this? The American people are now on the hook for $19 trillion as countless reps get caught with their hands in the cookie jar...and routinely collude with international elites in larceny on an epic scale. WITH impunity. You own country -- socialist Greece -- is dead broke. It now survives on hand-outs from the EU.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   13:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Liberator (#66) (Edited)

Uh, yes it is. HELLO. A "Republic" is by definition a representative government.

It does not state that the "representatives" doing the representing need be elected by the people. The Senate for example was appointed as is the Supreme court. President Ford was never elected into office. You don't need elections by the people to be a republic. The president is elected by a college of cardinals aka electoral college.

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-14   14:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Liberator (#67) (Edited)

The American people are now on the hook for $19 trillion as countless reps get caught with their hands in the cookie jar...and routinely collude with international elites in larceny on an epic scale. WITH impunity. You own country -- socialist Greece -- is dead broke. It now survives on hand- outs from the EU.

If we had socialism we would be on the hook for the same amount but be a cleaner, and well built nation like Scandinavia. But what we got instead was Reagonomics.

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-14   14:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Pericles (#68)

It does not state that the "representatives" doing the representing need be elected by the people.

It's implied. Or are we now going to engage in a battle of intent and semantics?

The Senate for example was appointed as is the Supreme court. President Ford was never elected into office. You don't need elections by the people to be a republic. The president is elected by a college of cardinals aka electoral college.

Sure, there are some exceptions to the rule. Ford and a VP is intended as a temporary a contingency plan. To your point, even in the Senate case, House reps were elected by peers to represent their respective constituency. They in turn are entrusted to do the same of Senate reps.

Lifetime appointments for ANY judge is a fundamental flaw in the Founders' system. Especially the for SCOTUS. So too are the lack of term-limits. And with the lack of respect for the intent of the Founders, respect for the law, and respect for honor and integrity, this "Republic" ostensibly is no more.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   15:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Pericles (#69)

If we had socialism we would be on the hook for the same amount but be a cleaner, and well built nation like Scandinavia.

Nonsense. (Btw, "Scandinavia" isn't a nation. Is that what they're teaching in Grecian elementary school huts? :-)

No, you can NOT hold up monolithic Sweden as template for the multi-ethnic, infinitely diverse and divided USA. The US population is 30x, while it's economy and geography dwarfs Sweden's.

That said, Sweden is unfairly confiscating, aka "spreading the wealth" from it's hard-working producers, to its ever growing Muslim parasite immigrants. It's national identity, security, as well as motivation to create and risk capital are being strangled.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   15:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Pericles (#69) (Edited)

But what we got instead was Reagonomics.

Who is "we," Kemosabe??

The 1980s of the Ronald Reagan's Era into the early 90s was an unprecedented era of peace, prosperity, and hope for the future. (Do you remember any wars during the Reagan Years?)

"Reaganomics" -- though not perfect -- helped smash the Berlin Wall and free millions from the bondage of Communism. Investments and creativity in America as well as the West were off the hook. Optimism and stability will do that. Yeah, "Reaganomics" really sucked...

But THEN we got NWO Globalist Puppet Poppy Bush and Klinton, began stressing "Global First," and immediately got into major international wars. Socialist economics and social "justice" policies (aka "compassionate conservatism" and Klintomics) were implemented and enforced. From 1991 and onward we've nose-dived demographically, culturally, economically, and morally into a death-spiral.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-14   15:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: SOSO (#41)

" God help us !!

Why should He bother? "

A very good, & legitimate question. I share the same delima.

Granted, a large percentage of the American population are evil and worthless critters devoid of any redeeming qualities, that the nation / world would be better off without. There are still some good people that deserve to be saved/spared. I am simply asking for God to spare the deserving souls, much like Lot asked for Sodom/Gomorrah to be spared for at least one good man.

I know that is a Mission Impossible. Our nation as a whole has sinned greatly, turned our ungrateful backs on God, spit in His face, etc, etc, etc. But it is true, we do have many people that do deserve to be spared. Little children come to mind, and a fair number of senior citizens.

Those I mentioned are innocent, and have done no wrong, or were unable to stop the evil that has infested this once great nation.

I pray God Almighty will help & spare those I mentioned, for the Day of His Wrath is approaching!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-04-14   18:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Liberator (#56)

That would be the globalist-controlled RNC's love-child, the GOP -- wouldn't it?

I'm not going to say they are "the" one,but they damn sure serve as a prime example of backstabbing and double-dealing as you are likely to find.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-14   20:20:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Pericles (#64)

The Catholic church as it operates in Rome is at least 1,500 to 2,000 years old so why deny them the use of the term republic when they are more contemporaries of Plato more than the modern versions?

Because they are a dictatorship.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-14   20:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: rlk (#25)

" Last presidential election I voted for Goode of the Constitution Party. "

As did I. This time I will probably vote for the Constitution Party candidate. I realize the ballot box is broke/dysfunctional. Since I have inexperienced children, I am not eager to move to the ammo box.

Our nation is in for a world of hurt! may God Almighty help us!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-04-14   20:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Liberator (#60)

On the shoulders of THIS faith America became great.

That faith was manifested in the hearts and free minds of Individuals between themselves and their Creator -- not between the collectivist sheeple fleecers and their religious mobs.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-16   7:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Pericles (#62)

A republic does not need to be "a Government Of, By, and For the People" - that is not what republic means.

I didn't says that's what Republic means.

That was the PURPOSE, specified in the Declaration of Independence, for which the American republic was constituted.

"TO SECURE THIS RIGHTS"...

...For who? For the people.

...By who? By the people acting through lawful government.

...Of who? Of the people, whose tyrannical majority and human nature must be constrained by law.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-16   8:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Pericles (#64)

The Catholic church as it operates in Rome is at least 1,500 to 2,000 years old so why deny them the use of the term republic

Ok. It's a republic.

What is the historically observable purpose toward which its framework of law aspires?

It's a self-serving, hierarchical, oligarchic, kleptocratic, theocratic state-establishment.

It aspires to be Ba'al - Lord, Master, and Possessor -- over all upon which it asserts its fraudulent temporal dominion.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-16   8:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Liberator (#72) (Edited)

The 1980s of the Ronald Reagan's Era into the early 90s was an unprecedented era of peace, prosperity, and hope for the future.

The peace and prosperity of the 80's and 90's were products of the technological revolution that was ignited by the Space Race in the 60's.

Buggs Bunny could've been in the White Hut and the times wouldn't have been different.

Even Bill Klintoon couldn't muck it up. And his minions like to take credit too for the inertial prosperity that remained on their watch.

Ironically, it is the worship of technology that invokes the cyclical cultural demise described in Romans 1:25+

VxH  posted on  2015-04-16   8:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: VxH (#79)

The Catholic church as it operates in Rome is at least 1,500 to 2,000 years old so why deny them the use of the term republic

Ok. It's a republic

The Vatican is a Republic. In other nations the Catholic Church operates the way private groups operate and within the laws of said nation.

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-16   10:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: VxH (#80)

The peace and prosperity of the 80's and 90's were products of the technological revolution that was ignited by the Space Race in the 60's.

I specifically cited the 1980s and early 90s. Were you using the internet in the 80s and early 90s?? If technological advances are a reason for peace and prosperity, then by your theory we ought to be in Nirvana by now.

No, as I stated, the Reagan Years were punctuated an unprecedented era of peace, prosperity, and hope for the future. In other words, the REAL America. That basis was that was the moral clarity, optimism, and conviction of righteousness emanating right from the top: RONALD REAGAN.

Buggs Bunny could've been in the White Hut and the times wouldn't have been different. Even Bill Klintoon couldn't muck it up. And his minions like to take credit too for the inertial prosperity that remained on their watch.

Oh but Clinton indeed DID "muck it up," during his regime, didn't he? Badly. He was a liar. And rapist. He made a mockery of morality, leadership, and accountability. Your much bally-hooed theory about technology facilitating "peace and prosperity" is a FAIL. You'd also omitted the "hope for the future" that Reagan projected but Clinton personally helped destroy. He and his regime were a national moral disaster, which of course led to a government that we no longer trusted, nor believed was benevolent.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-16   11:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Stoner, SOSO (#73)

" God help us !!"

("Why should He bother? ")

I am simply asking for God to spare the deserving souls, much like Lot asked for Sodom/Gomorrah to be spared for at least one good man. I know that is a Mission Impossible.

Our nation as a whole has sinned greatly, turned our ungrateful backs on God, spit in His face, etc, etc, etc. But it is true, we do have many people that do deserve to be spared. Little children come to mind, and a fair number of senior citizens.

Those I mentioned are innocent, and have done no wrong, or were unable to stop the evil that has infested this once great nation.

Yours is a noble and humble intent and request. But God has already judged America. Nationally, we ARE Sodom/Gomorrah, and have even less excuse for embracing all of the evil *it* once was, and we now are. Thus the hammer of justice is about to fall. HARD.

As a so-called "Christian" nation who used to honor God did turn its back on Him. The good news is that on an individual/church basis, we are spared...AND saved. For Eternity. And so are those many believers are who still have time to heed and embrace the Gospel and the Lord's grace. Hopefully, our children, grandchildren, friends and family will do the same before the thief comes in the night.

The good news: Recently it has been reported that 100 million former ChiComs have embraced the Gospel, as well as millions of converts in the Middle East. Amen to that!

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-16   11:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: sneakypete (#74)

They [the RNC's love-child, the GOP] damn sure serve as a prime example of backstabbing and double-dealing as you are likely to find.

No question.

During this election we're about to see to just what degree the RNC's typical backstabbing and double-dealing is executed. IF their chosen globalist-RINO-Statist dressed in a Dem sundress doesn't win the GOP nomination, I expect them to sabotage that nominee (especially if it's Cruz.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-16   11:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Pericles (#64)

The Catholic church as it operates in Rome is at least 1,500 to 2,000 years old so why deny them the use of the term republic when they are more contemporaries of Plato more than the modern versions?

Why does the age of the Vatican's secret society matter? And how in the world is the Vatican a "Republic" by any definition of the word? It's a city-state and financial operation that masquerades as the seat of Christ's Church while engaging in political monkey business and subterfuge that assures itself of nothing but POWER.

Still tooting the horn of Plato and the Greek "republic" again? In their (or your) concept of "republic," who were the "Grantors" of liberty and "rights" again?

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-16   11:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: VxH (#77) (Edited)

On the shoulders of THIS faith America became great.

That faith was manifested in the hearts and free minds of Individuals between themselves and their Creator -- not between the collectivist sheeple fleecers and their religious mobs.

Uh, America and its basis of freedom and inspiration were STILL its faith in God. Our founders clearly spelled that out as a Right -- "endowed by our Creator." Are you now going to deny the role of God and faith in the Founders' conviction in establishing this republic?

Whether between families or local churches, the Bible remained the choice of spiritual "weapon" and guidance in all matters. THAT fact is irrefutable.

Btw, you may be shocked to learn this, but Jim Bakker-types did not EVER run contemporary America OR the fledgling America OR the Colonies.

"Collectivist sheeple fleecers and their religious mobs"?? HA! You've bought into the mob-assassination caricatures of the Left now? Any hallucinogenic notion of the pot calling the kettle black simply cannot be taken seriously.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-16   12:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Liberator (#85)

Still tooting the horn of Plato and the Greek "republic" again? In their (or your) concept of "republic," who were the "Grantors" of liberty and "rights" again?

Why not? Plato's ancestors invented the concept of political science. AKA, the people who you owe that got your filthy northern European ancestors to stop human sacrifices and living in mud huts.

Pericles  posted on  2015-04-16   12:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Liberator (#84)

IF their chosen globalist-RINO-Statist dressed in a Dem sundress doesn't win the GOP nomination, I expect them to sabotage that nominee (especially if it's Cruz.)

Eliminate the Cruz part,and it would be the safest bet you could ever make.

They have been doing this ever since they forced Reagan to take the treasonous old bastard Poppy Bush as his running mate.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-16   13:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Liberator (#85)

It's a city-state and financial operation that masquerades as the seat of Christ's Church

It's actually a for-profit private corporation hiding behind the skirts of charity.

In many respects,it is the original New World Order,and laid the ground work for how the globalists of today plan on taking over control of the world.

Hitler and Stalin must be spinning in their graves from jealousy. Especially Stalin,since he went to Divinity School to become a priest.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-16   13:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Liberator (#83)

The good news is that on an individual/church basis, we are spared

Salvation is by individual not by community. I not aware that God judges a individual by what church and/or community he/she attends or embraces. Are there any churches in Heaven? Besides I am not at all certain how God would judge the Catholic church or most of the Protest-ant churches.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-04-16   14:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Liberator (#86) (Edited)

"Collectivist sheeple fleecers and their religious mobs"?

Yep. Like when Calvin and Co. were burning folks alive for disagreeing with the dogmatic principles of Cal's "reformation" in Geneva.

Mob rule. The kind of state-established Ba'al manure the founders deliberately created a secular republic to protect themselves and their heirs from.

Fortunately, thanks to founders like Franklin, Washington, John Adams, and Jefferson, "liberators" like you and Calvin don't get to fire up the state- established Theocratic BBQ in America.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-16   20:09:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Liberator (#82) (Edited)

Were you using the internet in the 80s and early 90s?

Yep. Compuserve, GEnie, AOL --- and DARPAnet.

I bought my first PC clone in 1985

VxH  posted on  2015-04-16   20:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Liberator (#82)

Oh but Clinton indeed DID "muck it up,"

What year did the dot.com boom reach its apex, suuuper-genius?

VxH  posted on  2015-04-16   20:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Pericles (#81) (Edited)

The Vatican is a Republic

Uhuh. Already stipulated into the record.

What differentiates the PURPOSE of the Vatican's republic from the purpose specified for America's legal framework in the American Declaration of Independence?

VxH  posted on  2015-04-16   20:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Liberator (#86)

Btw, you may be shocked to learn this, but Jim Bakker-types did not EVER run contemporary America OR the fledgling America OR the Colonies

Oh, so the Catholic farce never had any influence in fledgling America.

LOL. Riiiiiiiight. Be sure and let Christopher Columbus know will ya?

VxH  posted on  2015-04-16   23:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: SOSO (#90)

Salvation is by individual not by community.

Yes...but that doesn't mean God hasn't either chastised, cursed or blessed "communities" or churches or people in scripture.

I not aware that God judges a individual by what church and/or community he/she attends or embraces.

Hold onto your backwards baseball cap; Are you familiar with The Seven Churches of Revelation described in Revelation chapters 2 through chapter 3? They were REAL churches:

(1) Ephesus

(2) Smyrna

(3) Pergamum

(4) Thyatira

(5) Sardis

(6) Philadelphia

(7) Laodicea

I reckon this would be a good opportunity to review what the Lord has to say about each of them.

Are there any churches in Heaven?

Why? I don't think altar boys are required.

I am not at all certain how God would judge the Catholic church or most of the Protest-ant churches.

Perfectly.

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-17   11:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: VxH (#91) (Edited)

Yep. Like when Calvin and Co. were burning folks alive for disagreeing with the dogmatic principles of Cal's "reformation" in Geneva.

WHAT in the world does your post have to do with my assertion that America and its basis of freedom and inspiration was its faith in God? OR, that our Founders clearly spelled that out "Rights" -- as "endowed by our Creator."

I'll ask you again (since your attention span is gnat-like): Are you still denying the role of God and faith in the Founders' conviction in establishing this republic?

Yet another of my assertions:

Whether between families or local churches, the Bible remained the choice of spiritual "weapon" and guidance in all matters. THAT fact is irrefutable.

DO YOU DISAGREE?

Mob rule. The kind of state-established Ba'al manure the founders deliberately created a secular republic to protect themselves and their heirs from.

"Mob Rule"?? Lol -- based on WHAT again? (take all the time you need to shovel whatever "proof" you can muster.)

Fortunately, thanks to founders like Franklin, Washington, John Adams, and Jefferson, "liberators" like you and Calvin don't get to fire up the state- established Theocratic BBQ in America.

Your frontal lobe is....BBQ'd. Burnt to a crisp. Btw -- now that your secular humanist gubmint, education system, and loyalty to...Ba'al (Heh -- what irony) has veered off course and destroyed the mention of "God", how much longer do you see this psuedo-republic lasting before it devolves into....absolute tyranny?

The governance of the Republic may be secular-based, but the vast majority of Founders were....CHRISTIAN. As has been documented at this forum and at LP forever. I will repeat: On the shoulders of THIS faith America became great.

But somehow, someway in your fevered alleged mind YOU believe there's suddenly some "Fundie Conspiracy" to turn the US into a "Theocracy"?? HAH!! Paranoid much??

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-17   12:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: VxH (#93)

What year did the dot.com boom reach its apex, suuuper-genius?

HUH?? Off track again? What else is new.

Tell the class exactly what the "dot.com boom" has to do with my assertion that the Reagan Years were punctuated an unprecedented era of peace, prosperity, and hope for the future? And that it was based on Reagan's leadership which stressed moral clarity, optimism, and conviction of righteousness.

YOUR kooky assertion is that THE basis of the Reagan Era of peace, prosperity, and hope was based on....technology. And (Bwaahaa!) "The Space Race."

Liberator  posted on  2015-04-17   12:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Liberator (#96)

I am not at all certain how God would judge the Catholic church or most of the Protest-ant churches.

Perfectly.

In that case I would be quite worried if I were they.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-04-17   12:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Liberator (#96)

Hold onto your backwards baseball cap; Are you familiar with The Seven Churches of Revelation described in Revelation chapters 2 through chapter 3? They were REAL churches:

(1) Ephesus

(2) Smyrna

(3) Pergamum

(4) Thyatira

(5) Sardis

(6) Philadelphia

(7) Laodicea

I reckon this would be a good opportunity to review what the Lord has to say about each of them.

Oh, I see now. The Angel was speaking to stone not people. Thanks for clearing that up.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-04-17   12:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Liberator (#98) (Edited)

The inertial prosperity observable through out the 90's wasn't created by Klintoon any more than it was created by the preceding administrations.

The times made the men, not vice-versa - and the times were driven by the computer and technological revolution of the unfolding Information Age.

Now I'll ask again: What year did the dot.com boom reach it's apex?

It's completely relevant because that's when the inertia of the Information Age's wave broke.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-17   14:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Liberator (#97) (Edited)

The governance of the Republic may be secular-based

That's a FACT.

And it's that FACT, established by LAW, that prevents state-establishing religious goons like you from doing what you, and Calvin, have always done: SETTING UP YOUR OPINIONS AND MODES OF THINKING AS THE ONLY TRUE AND INFALLIBLE.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-17   14:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Liberator (#98) (Edited)

an unprecedented era of peace,

LOL Right.

That's what Saint Ronaldo's angels were creating when they were selling arms to Iran, and their bidness associates were selling cocaine to fund the Contras.

"an unprecedented era of peace" - NOT.

FAIL.

VxH  posted on  2015-04-17   15:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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