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The GOSPEL of the ALIENS | Fallen Angels | Giants | Anunnaki The IMAGE of the BEAST Revealed (REV 13) - WARNING: Not for Everyone WEF Calls for AI to Replace Voters: ‘Why Do We Need Elections?’ The OCCULT Burger king EXPOSED PANERA BREAD Antichrist message EXPOSED The OCCULT Cheesecake Factory EXPOSED Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Corrupt Government See other Corrupt Government Articles Title: Obama to Catholic Church: Treat Divorced People and Gays Differently Or Else Source: www.redstate.com URL Source: http://www.redstate.com/2015/03/30/ ... e-and-gay-differently-or-else/ Published: Mar 31, 2015 Author: Erick Erickson Post Date: 2015-03-31 08:43:12 by CZ82 Keywords: None Views: 7073 Comments: 49 Obama to Catholic Church: Treat Divorced People and Gays Differently Or Else By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | March 30th, 2015 at 04:24 PM | 50 The Catholic Church operates a private school in Macon, Georgia. Flint Dollar was their band teacher. He is openly gay. The Catholic Church position is that being gay is not, in and of itself a sin. Rather, non-marital sex is a sin. Likewise, marriage is a sacrament in the Catholic Church — a bond between one man and one woman. The Catholic Church does not approve of people teaching at Mount de Sales if they’ve violated the sacraments of the church. Teachers who get divorced are let go. Flint Dollar also wants to violate a sacrament of the church. He wants to get married to another man. The Church, as a result, dismissed him. Now the Obama Administration is telling the Catholic Church it must treat gays and divorced heterosexuals differently Flint Dollar sued claiming he was not conforming to his gender because he wants to marry a guy. The EEOC says they’re fine with that. http://www.macon.com/2015/03/30/3668458_eeoc-issues-determination-letter.html?rh=1 Pope Francis and the Catholic Church will be made to care — on the same day Georgia Republicans have said RFRA is not needed in Georgia. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: CZ82 (#0) (Edited) EEOC says they’re fine with that ... Georgia Republicans have said RFRA is not needed in Georgia. A gibberish. What does EEOC or RFRA mean? Eastern Eagle Occidental Cooperative? Really Foolish Republican Association? A Pole  posted on  2015-03-31   8:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: CZ82 (#0) Test of power. We'll see what happens. My bet is that there will be a court challenge, and a federal court will uphold the Catholic school's right to continue to police its staff for religious conformity. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-31   9:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: A Pole (#1) Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Religious Freedom Restoration Act “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.â€� CZ82  posted on  2015-03-31   9:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: CZ82 (#3) TYVM A Pole  posted on  2015-03-31   9:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: A Pole (#4) YW “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.â€� CZ82  posted on  2015-03-31   9:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: CZ82, A Pole (#5) IHA Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-31   9:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: TooConservative (#6) You don't like acronyms? If you had been military you would have been exposed to them on a daily basis, like "SNAFU" for instance. :) “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.â€� CZ82  posted on  2015-03-31   9:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: TooConservative (#6) TYVM YW IHA HUH? Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-31   20:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: CZ82 (#0) Obama to Catholic Church: Treat Divorced People and Gays Differently Or Else What is Obama's intention to do now, ban the Catholic church by executive order? rlk  posted on  2015-03-31   21:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: rlk (#9) What is Obama's intention to do now To Assume Dominion over the faith of others, evidently. VxH  posted on  2015-04-01   0:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: CZ82, *Religious History and Issues* (#0) Just pinging the list. "For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22) redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-01   0:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: CZ82 (#7) If you had been military you would have been exposed to them on a daily basis, like "SNAFU" for instance. :) My favorite which has historical roots is "FUBAR." One "word" which senior NCOs understand and no further explanation is needed. For example if the motorpool was a bit messy before Friday final formation and inspection, I would say "First Sergeant so and so needs to fix xy and z. He knew I was being picky. But if I said the motorpool was FUBAR, he knew the mp was coined up and some NCOs would be staying late to fix it. "For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22) redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-01   0:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Vicomte13 (#8) TYVM YW IHA Thank you very much. Your welcome. I hate acronyms (tongue in cheek) Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-01   4:07:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: TooConservative (#13) TYVM YW IHA 1.Thank you very much. 2.Your welcome. 3.I hate acronyms (tongue in cheek) CIJMOU? Can I Just Make One Up? In the Navy, there is (or at least there was, in the 1980s), the DICNAVAB, the "Dictionary of Navy Abbreviations". It was a real publication. NS! Vicomte13  posted on  2015-04-01   7:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: CZ82 (#0) Now the Obama Administration is telling the Catholic Church it must treat gays and divorced heterosexuals differently Obama takes penis in the ass. Who cares what that faggot says thinks or does. The Secret Service should punch him in the nose. A K A Stone  posted on  2015-04-01   8:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: CZ82 (#0) Flint Dollar was their band teacher. He is openly gay. With a name like "Flint Dollar" (hard buck),who would have ever guessed? The Catholic Church does not approve of people teaching at Mount de Sales if they’ve violated the sacraments of the church. Teachers who get divorced are let go. Flint Dollar also wants to violate a sacrament of the church. He wants to get married to another man. The Church, as a result, dismissed him. Ok,while it might be a slight stretch of the imagination to say I am a fan of the Catholic Church,they are a business,and have the same damn right to hire and fire anyone they want,for any reason at all,or for no reason at all. Neither Flint Dollar (I wonder what his birth name was?) nor anyone else has a Constitutionally protected RIGHT to work anywhere they want if that business doesn't want to hire them. The US Constitution prevents the GOVERNMENT from discriminating. Any citizen is free to discriminate against anyone and everyone they want because citizens have a guaranteed Constitution RIGHT to "freedom of association". This includes citizens that own or manage businesses that deal with the public. You don't like their policies,don't go to work for them and don't do business with them. Now the Obama Administration is telling the Catholic Church it must treat gays and divorced heterosexuals differently We know this ignorant half-breed buffoon hates white people because his mother didn't pick a white father for him,but is he really so stupid that he thinks he can take on the Catholic Church IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-01   10:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Vicomte13 (#2) My bet is that there will be a court challenge, and a federal court will uphold the Catholic school's right to continue to police its staff for religious conformity. Depends on which state it goes to court. If it goes to court in a heavily Catholic state,Constitutional Law will prevail,even if for the wrong reasons. If it goes to court in a non-Catholic area,it's a toss-up. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-01   10:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: CZ82 (#3) Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Typical goobermint distortion. They name agencies to imply they do the direct opposite of what they really do. FACT: The government does NOT have the Constitutional Right to tell ANYBODY who they can hire or fire. Period. The ONLY "equal opportunity employer" is THEM since they represent "The People" and by Constitutional Law the government MUST treat ALL citizens equally. Ironically enough,thanks to EEOC laws the government is by FAR the BIGGEST employment discriminator in the entire nation,thanks to EEO laws that promote Affirmative Action. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-01   10:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: rlk (#9) What is Obama's intention to do now, ban the Catholic church by executive order? His homies with names like "20 Mule Team Abdullah Mohammed Washington" might like it,but I suspect the His and Her Panics ain't going to be real happy wid him. Not that he cares. He is never going to run for President again,and thanks to him chances are there won't be another black president for at least 100 years. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) sneakypete  posted on  2015-04-01   10:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: sneakypete (#17) Depends on which state it goes to court. If it goes to court in a heavily Catholic state,Constitutional Law will prevail,even if for the wrong reasons. If it goes to court in a non-Catholic area,it's a toss-up. At the trial level, perhaps. But then it gets appealed. And if the appeals court gets it wrong, the Supreme Court will get it right. No state is going to get to impose staff on the Catholic Church. States have been trying to impose all sorts of things on the Church for over a century. They always lose. If the locals don't stop it the legislature does. If the legislature doesn't stop it then an governor does. If they don't, the Feds do, either politically or judicially. There are 6 Catholics on the Supreme Court. The law isn't going to stand. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-04-01   10:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: CZ82 (#0) Now the Obama Administration is telling the Catholic Church it must treat gays and divorced heterosexuals differently Flint Dollar sued claiming he was not conforming to his gender because he wants to marry a guy. The EEOC says they’re fine with that. Every time Obolo makes a flippant remark or 'suggestion' some Executive order follows. This was not a suggestion but a threat. "For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22) redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-01   10:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: sneakypete (#19) His homies with names like "20 Mule Team Abdullah Mohammed Washington" Freakin' hilarious. Liberator  posted on  2015-04-01   11:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: redleghunter, CZ82 (#21) Every time Obolo makes a flippant remark or 'suggestion' some Executive order follows. This was not a suggestion but a threat. Yup. And the GOP has not once yet stepped in and halted the psycho-in-chief's run on the table. If the 1A falls, the 2A in the Left's bomb-site. The Kenyan is tone-deaf to and devoid of ANY sense of propriety or consequence. He WELCOMES chaos and destruction. The Left (aided and abetted by GOP Statists) is conducting a Scorched Earth policy, backed by America's own institutions. With 22 months or so left to his reign of unconstitutional terror, he's going to push shove the fascist-leftist envelope as far as he can -- backed by an army of perpetually angry homofascists and social media bots (who've obvious created a cyber-means to over-exaggerate their forces), and the 24/7 bombardment of media. They demonstrate the fervor of entitled jihadists combined with the same ill-logic. What's absolutely alarming is the lack of organized, fervant push-back from OUR side. Liberator  posted on  2015-04-01   11:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: sneakypete (#17) If it goes to court in a heavily Catholic state,Constitutional Law will prevail,even if for the wrong reasons. If Constitutional Law hasn't mattered in the courts (or Congress) till now during the 0bola Era, what makes you believe the previous methods of PTB coercion (blackmail, threats, bribes) won't continue to prevail? Liberator  posted on  2015-04-01   11:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Vicomte13 (#20) No state is going to get to impose staff on the Catholic Church. States have been trying to impose all sorts of things on the Church for over a century. They always lose. If the locals don't stop it the legislature does. If the legislature doesn't stop it then an governor does. If they don't, the Feds do, either politically or judicially. There are 6 Catholics on the Supreme Court. The law isn't going to stand. 6 Catholics on the SC, but how many are Dem, subversive, Leftist, gay, or blackmailed? They are compromised. Despite all those Fail-Safe mechanisms in place, NOTHING has stopped Nero from implementing a single piece of subversive/unconstitutional policy. And I don't see any much organized outrage and opposition from the supposed 40 million Catholics (yet we see a hurricane of jihadism from the 1 1/2% of the population that's queer.) Too much seems to be askew; The Fix appears to be in. Liberator  posted on  2015-04-01   11:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: CZ82 (#3) (Edited) Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Can you imagine the mutants-in-charge at this place? ("You MUST hire this pedophile-rapist-jihadist-murderer-gay-black-tranny-atheist, because THAT is OUR LAW!! Or else we'll prosecute you and shut down your church for discrimination!!") Liberator  posted on  2015-04-01   11:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: Liberator (#23) What's absolutely alarming is the lack of organized, fervant push-back from OUR side. That's the problem - we don't have a side. Only the GOP. And they're a joke, not an oppositon party. Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-04-01   12:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: Rufus T Firefly (#27) Funny how that's worked out, eh? The GOP wound up as our evil step-mother and we are Cinderella. I guess the more we're beaten, the more our morale is supposed to improve. The GOPe is despicable. Since we're now NOT two, but actually THREE countries-in-one, let's just divvy it all up ASAP. This is ridiculous. Liberator  posted on  2015-04-01   12:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Liberator (#23) What's absolutely alarming is the lack of organized, fervant push-back from OUR side. Catholic push back is always organized, and cross-jurisdictional, and at times even involves international diplomacy. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-04-01   14:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: redleghunter (#21) This was not a suggestion but a threat. Bring it on. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-04-01   14:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: Vicomte13 (#30) redleghunter This was not a suggestion but a threat. Bring it on. The Apostolic churches survived worse. The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. Pericles  posted on  2015-04-01   14:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: Liberator (#25) Despite all those Fail-Safe mechanisms in place, NOTHING has stopped Nero from implementing a single piece of subversive/unconstitutional policy. Hobby Lobby stopped the contraception mandate. The Catholic Church does not care about all of the things that American conservatives care about. It cares about the things that IT cares about. And the major threat posed by Obama on THOSE vectors was mandatory birth control. 5 of the 6 Catholic justices on the Supreme Court voted in Hobby Lobby to uphold the religious exception to the health care mandate. The Catholic Church isn't providing contraception, and the Supreme Court said it didn't have to. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-04-01   15:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: Vicomte13, liberator (#30) This was not a suggestion but a threat. Bring it on. Well "bringing it on" will accomplish a house cleaning no doubt. How many Cardinals, bishops, theologians, pastors etc. will melt like butter under pressure. From prior observations----quite a many. "For the Lord is our Judge, The Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us" (Isaiah 33:22) redleghunter  posted on  2015-04-01   15:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: redleghunter (#33) Well "bringing it on" will accomplish a house cleaning no doubt. How many Cardinals, bishops, theologians, pastors etc. will melt like butter under pressure. From prior observations----quite a many. Not on anything structural that I can recall. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-04-01   16:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter (#34) Not on anything structural that I can recall. Perhaps but the paraphrase the Pope "who are they to judge?". потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2015-04-01   16:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: SOSO (#35) Perhaps but the paraphrase the Pope "who are they to judge?". Who are who to judge what? Vicomte13  posted on  2015-04-01   19:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: Vicomte13 (#36) Perhaps but the paraphrase the Pope "who are they to judge?". Who are who to judge what? The church and anybody. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь SOSO  posted on  2015-04-01   20:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: Liberator (#26) Can you imagine the mutants-in-charge at this place? Yes I can. I had a run in with the military version of the EEOC, they tried to get me charged with discrimination without doing their due diligence. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.â€� CZ82  posted on  2015-04-01   20:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: sneakypete (#16) We know this ignorant half-breed buffoon hates white people because his mother didn't pick a white father for him,but is he really so stupid that he thinks he can take on the Catholic Church IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES? I'm curious as to how many of the House and Senate Democrats are actually willing to go along with this considering most of them are Catholic?? “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.â€� CZ82  posted on  2015-04-01   20:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: A K A Stone (#15) Who cares what that faggot says thinks or does. I guess I've lived in the wrong neighborhoods all my life cause I didn't know there were that many totally insane people in this country. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.â€� CZ82  posted on  2015-04-01   20:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . 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