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Title: Reporter Who Exposed Hillary’s Secret Intel Operation: Who Authorized & Financed It?
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URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... on-who-authorized-financed-it/
Published: Mar 29, 2015
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2015-03-29 23:27:47 by out damned spot
Keywords: Intel, operation, Hillary
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One of the reporters who exposed what appears to have been former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s clandestine and rogue intelligence service said that there are more questions than answers regarding the operation, which was exposed in the hacked emails of Clinton’s longtime confidante Sidney Blumenthal. Appearing on Breitbart News Sunday on Sirius XM Patriot channel 125, Jeff Gerth, a two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, told host and Breitbart News Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon that he still wanted to know “who authorized or tasked this network to do what they did” and “who was paying for this?” Gerth, the former New York Times reporter who now works for ProPublica, co- authored the report on Clinton’s rogue intelligence operation with Gawker’s Sam Biddle. He said the intelligence operation revealed in the Blumenthal emails reminds him of the Ed Wilson scandal in Libya and the Iran-Contra scandal. He noted that in both cases people were sent to jail or convicted of various crimes. “You don’t just pick this stuff up from the Internet,” he said, noting “there were human intelligence sources inside of Libya that were gathering this information” and relaying it to Blumenthal, who then forwarded the accounts to Clinton’s private email account. Gerth emphasized that the Blumenthal emails are “just a minor tiny percentage of what was going on here.” He said “we got a few pieces but don’t have anywhere near the full puzzle” because journalists have to work “with what the hacker chose to download” and take screenshots of two years ago. According to the Gawker/ProPublica report, “starting weeks before Islamic militants attacked the U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya, longtime Clinton family confidante Sidney Blumenthal supplied intelligence to then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gathered by a secret network that included a former CIA clandestine service officer.” Blumenthal’s emails “include at least a dozen detailed reports on events on the deteriorating political and security climate in Libya as well as events in other nations” and they came to light when a Hacker called Guccifer posted them in 2013. On August 23, 2012, less than three weeks before the Benghazi attacks that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, an email, according to the report, cites “‘an extremely sensitive source’ who highlighted a string of bombings and kidnappings of foreign diplomats and aid workers in Tripoli, Benghazi and Misrata, suggesting they were the work of people loyal to late Libyan Prime Minister Muammar Gaddafi.” As the report points out, Hillary Clinton claimed “that U.S. intelligence officials didn’t have advance knowledge” of security threats in Benghazi, but Blumenthal’s email “portrays a deteriorating security climate” even if the memo, according to Gawker, “doesn’t rise to the level of a warning about the safety of U.S. diplomats.” On the day after the Benghazi attacks, Blumenthal reportedly sent an email sent an email saying a “sensitive source” said that interim Libyan president Mohammed Yussef el Magariaf “was told by a senior security officer” that the Benghazi attacks were “inspired by an anti-Muslim video made in the U.S,” which was the Obama administration’s preferred spin. The next day, though, Blumenthal reportedly sent an email that “said Libyan security officials believed an Islamist radical group called the Ansa al Sharia brigade had prepared the attack a month in advance and ‘took advantage of the cover’ provided by the demonstrations against the video.” Another email in October of 2012 notes “that Magariaf and the Libyan army chief of staff agree that the ‘situation in the country is becoming increasingly dangerous and unmanageable’ and ‘far worse’ than Western leaders realize.” The report notes that though the intelligence notes were sent under Blumenthal’s name, they “appear to have been gathered and prepared by Tyler Drumheller, a former chief of the CIA’s clandestine service in Europe who left the agency in 2005.” He has since reportedly established a consulting firm– Tyler Drumheller, LLC. The emails also show that “Cody Shearer, a longtime Clinton family operative,” was also in “close contact with Blumenthal.” Blumenthal’s hacked emails also show that “he and his associates worked to help the Libyan opposition, and even plotted to insert operatives on the ground using a private contractor.” The emails reveal that Blumenthal and Shearer were negotiating with former Army General David Grange “to place send four operatives on a week-long mission to Tunis, Tunisia, and ‘to the border and back.'” Grange, “a major general in the Army who ran a secret Pentagon special operations unit before retiring in 1999,” according to the report, “subsequently founded Osprey Global Solutions, a consulting firm and government contractor that offers logistics, intelligence, security training, armament sales, and other services.” The Libyan National Transition Council and Grange’s Osprey Global Solutions, according to documents, agreed that Osprey would “‘assist in the resumption of access to its assets and operations in country’ and train Libyan forces in intelligence, weaponry, and ‘rule-of-land warfare.'” Another email reportedly shows that Drumheller appealed to “then-Libyan Prime Minister Ali Zeidan offering the services of Tyler Drumheller LLC, ‘to develop a program that will provide discreet confidential information allowing the appropriate entities in Libya to address any regional and international challenges.'” In addition to intelligence information from Libya, the Blumenthal memos, according to the report, “cover a wide array of subjects in extreme detail, from German Prime Minister Angela Merkel’s conversations with her finance minister about French president Francois Hollande–marked ‘THIS INFORMATION COMES FROM AN EXTREMELY SENSITIVE SOURCE’—to the composition of the newly elected South Korean president’s transition team.” A Clinton spokesman reportedly told the outlets that the Blumenthal emails were part of the nearly 33,000 pages of emails that Clinton turned over to the State Department. As the report notes, “Blumenthal, a New Yorker staff writer in the 1990s, became a top aide to President Bill Clinton and worked closely with Hillary Clinton during the fallout from the Whitewater investigation into the Clinton family.” Hillary Clinton even reportedly “tried to hire him when she joined President Obama’s cabinet in 2009, but White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel reportedly nixed the idea” because of Blumenthal’s attacks on Obama during the 2008 Democratic primary. On Breitbart News Sunday, Gerth also reminded listeners how close Blumenthal is to the Clintons–he was the last person, for instance, Hillary Clinton spoke to before she went on the Today show during the Monica Lewinsky affair to allege a “vast right-wing conspiracy” against the Clintons. The emails raise more questions about whether all of the more than 30,000 emails that Clinton deemed to be “personal” were really not “work-related.” Clinton refused to turn her email server over to a third party and Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC), who chairs the House Select Benghazi Committee, revealed on Friday that Clinton had wiped her email server “clean.” Gowdy, citing “huge gaps” in the emails that his committee has received, has indicated that there may be many relevant emails regarding Libya that Clinton may not have turned over, which is why he has indicated that the House may take legal action to get access to Clinton’s email server. “There are gaps of months and months and months. And if you think to that iconic picture of her on a C-17 flying to Libya, she has sunglasses on and she has her handheld device in her hand, we have no e-mails from that day. In fact, we have no e-mails from that trip, Gowdy said on a recent appearance on CBS’s Face the Nation. “So, it’s strange credibility to believe that if you’re on your way to Libya to discuss Libyan policy that there’s not a single document that has been turned over to Congress. So, there are huge gaps. And with respect to the president, it’s not up to Secretary Clinton to decide what is a public record and what’s not.” Gerth pointed out that “these things these usually have layers to them” and there is a lot more that needs to be unearthed.
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#105. To: nolu chan (#103)
I love the way you state they are "absurd claims" yet never come right out and say they are not true. It must be time to water my pet geranium and see if it sprouts brains. Maybe it's time for the geranium to water you? You are nothing but a Dim shill and wannabe lawyer so out of touch with reality that you think ONE claim that was only a mistake on the surrounding details negates the truth in the core of the message. This ain't court,bucko,and you can't get evidence thrown out because of a misplaced comma.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Are you really so stupid that you think a mind-numbing list of accusations that were and are partisan in nature and never proven makes the criminals and traitors you support look any better? The DNC MUST be paying you by the hour. Couldn't get a job at Wal-Mart?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
That's hardly a newsflash. You're only reinforcing my point...That it's subversives and homosexuals actually run it. Politics, the "education system" and the culture provide all the proof I need. This means you are either going to have to learn to get along with other people and leave them to live their lives in peace,or take a long jump with a short rope. Your choice. No...what it actually means is that YOU won't be the last to be eaten by the crocodile. There are TWO sides to this Culture War. Pick a side. They [homofascists] have the EXACT same rights as everyone else. Uh, no they don't; I just reviewed those special 'Hate Crimes' and Hate Speech' -- just TWO case examples of how homosexuals actually possess MORE "Rights" than normal people. Why are you compelled to ignore that point? Because there are people who are the mirror-image of you who want the Constitution to protect them by punishing people they don't agree with. HUH??? "Punish"?? How?? I'll bet you can't clarify this dopey claim. Because it just doesn't exist.
First of all, with respect to your fallacious claim that Christians "enforce superstition" (aka belief in God) you have YET to prove that claim as true in all the years we've debated it. And you STILL can't. Give it up -- it's bullsh*t. As to Claim #2 -- that we "lobby to get laws changed" -- I believe you've got that azz-backwards, Bucko. It's homos who've been doing nothing BUT changing eisting laws, aided and abetted by single judges or courts overturning the will of The People....and NOT through Legislation. You are delusional. Christians aren't my enemy. Oh, but they are. Why deny it? You are a loon if you think America needs to be controlled by a religious cult based on fear and punishment. Again, you're engaging in fallacious claims. America has NOT controlled by anything but common sense consensus and constitutional/legislative law....UNTIL THE LAST 20 YEARS OR SO. It that time it's been controlled by the tyranny of the few, the perverse, and the usurpers of common sense. That "fear and punishment"? Look around. It's the Left and all their supporters doing so (Homosexuals, liberals, black liberation theologists, Dems, militant atheists, America-haters.) I know it's shocking, but guess which suicidal side you find yourself allied with?
(The Left's agenda -- that is to kill God and take down Christianity and the underpinnings of morality.) Just how powerful do you really think your freaking God is if some unknown person on the internet can kill him with words and logic? "Killing God" was a metaphor -- I can't believe you couldn't understand it. Oh well. In clearer terms, the ouster and replacement of God as the ultimate answerable authority, as well as the elimination of any definitive standards of morality is the basis for our current state of confusion, chaos, and collective mental instability. Moral relativity -- the inability of America to discern and act on the difference between Right and Wrong-- is what has been killing America. And THAT is whether or not you believe in God or not. This acceptable immoral template began right at the top with...Bill Clinton and allowing he his farcical, criminal Presidency to go unpunished. Again -- one need not be a Christian to understand this irrefutable truth: The Christian ethic and faith has indeed been the traditional foundation and underpinning on from America built its greatness. Tear God away from the America fabric, and you don't have a "good" people, you don't even have an "America"; You have a divided & conquer people of diluted loyalty and common values. The proof of such a claim are the daily headlines, and well the ID and values reflected of the current President. Btw -- was America a better or worse county before or after "gay marriage" was officially shoved down America's throat? Have American more or less "rights" during the last 20 years?
You're agreeing *with* me in part: ("History" proves that the origins of the Nazi Party were by and large...HOMOSEXUAL.) The point: Hitler's sadistic homosexual Brownshirts provided the muscle and numbers for the Nazi Party movement. Why? Because homosexuals are by nature...fascists. In fact,you will be happy to know that Hitler and Stalin both agreed with you that homosexuality was a mental disease,and both send them off to be executed or worked to death in labor camps. Who wasn't tossed into death camps or Gulags?But...but are you saying Hitler and Stalin were both "homophobes"?? :-( Will you be establishing a WWII Gay Victim Museum? When's the pink-ribbon cutting ceremony? What does it say about a Hitler (who was aid to be homosexual himself) in that he knew enough to recruit homosexuals for his first "army"? Moreover, Hitler STILL retained many homosexual sadists within his upper echelon of command. They just had to keep their little secrets...well, secret. Sort of. In defense of both fascist nuts, the American Psychiatric Association proclaimed homosexuality a mental disorder up until 1973, when homosexuals tricked its leadership into changing that status. And at NO time in history were homos EVER thought of as anything BUT sick, mentally ill, and f***ed up in the head (cue the Greek/Roma/Muzzie examples.) Still somehow, someway you're going to believe that homosexuality is acceptable, normal behavior? And that the rest of us must accept that notion...or be arrested or fired or ostracized? Chyeah, "freedom." "Rights." FOR WHOM AGAIN??
Thanks for the overview, Chan. I enjoy and appreciate your penchant for detail and documentation. Your respective quibbling is obviously between approaching the issues from your legalese "burden of proof" court perspective, versus that of the presumption of guilt based on "proof" constructed via circumstantial, testimony, and dot-connecting. With respect to Hitlery's "firing" or technically "let go" from her position and involvement in Nixon's Impeachment proceedings, the unofficial "word on the street" was that Hitlery was sloppy, ventured into darker gray areas, and acted inappropriately in any case (no, please don't ask for citations :-) Technically and legally, you may be right. But then knowing how history has often been "revised" or redacted when the Clintons (or 0webuma) are the subject, the validity of the official narrative will always be questioned.
Omissions and unavailability of information do not dismiss any notion that Barry O's identity and history have not been manipulated in order to hide damaging revelations. Same as in the respective cases of both Hitlery and Bubba.... What of all the missing, unreleased docs and records of 0webuma? The BC shenanigans (and subsequent odd death of Loretta Fuddy, "verifier" of BO's supposed BC -- a BC that had originally been exposed as fake from the outset?) What of 0webuma's SS#? His parental situation? His transcripts? His relationships with Larry Sinclair, his choir member relationship (and murder?) The white-washed relationship with Bill Ayers? Rev. Wright? The prosecution of those who simply looked into his student loans? Etc-etc?? What of Bubba's serial rapes? The mysterious, suspicious death-trail of associates? Mena? Hitlery's involvement with Vince Foster (and Foster's murder and magically placed file?) Etc-Etc. How can you state without reservation that ANY claim challenging either the 0webumas or the Klintoons are "ridiculous" when it's clear as day that in all cases, shenanigans is the rule rather than exception? It's easy to claim, "WHAT PROOF?!?" when people in high places are manipulating indictable evidence and eliminating witnesses. Or do you also dismiss THAT notion?
Who is this all-knowing "nolu chan" anyway? Why should anyone believe someone who finds it so very important to provide "documentation" on a website that is likely to be read by less than a hundred people? Is nolu merely an algorithm plug-in or a real person with access to the internet in his or her prison cell?
I think nolu is just another inquisitive person and poster who finds these forums a way to vent, connect, and share opinions -- just like most of us. There are those who believe ALL the "official" versions and narratives created by our elites masters and globalist overseers (nolu, and most of the serfs), those who believe most of the "official" narrative (still too many), and then those of us who scarcely believe a word (like me and maybe you ;-) Is nolu merely an algorithm plug-in or a real person with access to the internet in his or her prison cell? Lol... He's real. But he/she's a stickler for technicality and "facts" (even if some are obviously manufactured.) And of course, he/she is virulently anti-conspiracy, which mean his trust in the people running the system (including the judiciary) is 100%. Free Republic used to be that way. But given our respective observation of events and leadership since Reagan left (and especially since 9/11), we all know that THIS benevolent gubmint would NEVER do anything to hurt us, or collude with subversive international Powers That Be to divide, conquer, and destroy our Republic, the Constitution, and our sovereignty. And WHAT "New World Order"?? OH WAIT...
Close,but Christianity doesn't own the patent on ethic behavior. Btw -- was America a better or worse county before or after "gay marriage" was officially shoved down America's throat? Neither. Our problems are related to a thoroughly corrupt ruling class and a population composed of self-centered clowns that think everyone exists to provide for them as individuals. Who marries who has NOTHING to do with it. Who RAISES who is a hell of a lot more important than who marries who. Parents,who by YOUR definition are all heterosexual moralists,gave up their rights and obligations to raise their own children decades ago,and gladly passed them off to the governemnt. THAT is the root of our problems. We now have multi-generations of children that grew up thinking the government is their daddy and mommy. Have American more or less "rights" during the last 20 years? Clearly less,and it had and has nothing to do with sexuality. It has to do with selfishness and the desire to rule.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
("History" proves that the origins of the Nazi Party were by and large...HOMOSEXUAL.) Yeah,but that wasn't the part I was agreeing with. It's nothing more than fundie propaganda. I do agree that both fundies and Hitler were/are big fans of the "Big Lie",though. Hitler did the same thing all your fundie ministers and every other wannabe dictator does,he gathered the people living on the edges of society,and used them as tools to gain power. And like your fundie ministers,he will abandon them the instant he gains power and doesn't need them anymore. The difference is Hitler hated them enough to have them executed,and for all your dogmatic kneejerk hatred,I doubt you or your cult leader want to execute them. You just want them to somehow "go away". Still somehow, someway you're going to believe that homosexuality is acceptable, normal behavior? It IS normal behavior for homosexuals. Just how fucking thick are you that you can't understand that? These people are no threat to you in any way other than political,and you and the other fundies brought that on yourselves by making them political targets. Naturally they move to the side that wants their votes instead of the side that wants them put into mental hospitals. And truth to be told,people who worship non-existant creatures that live somewhere in the sky who are going to reward them with eternal life for being faithful cult members are a better fit for mental hospitals than people who just want to have sex with the people that sexually attract them. BTW,what is your thoughts on the fundie ministers that have been caught having homosexual sex,or sex with the married women in their cults?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
A Dim drone hired to disrupt and stop any criticisms of Bubbette! as she heads off on her White House quest. His job is to find ONE detail in ANY argument or discussion that hasn't been proven to be true in court,and then imply if that one detail is not proven to be true,the whole argument MUST be false. That part doesn't offend me. The part that offends me is he's actually stupid enough to think this makes him clever. He is nothing more than a distraction and a minor cog in the Dim machine.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I didn't say that, nor was it my intent. Just that America's ethics were Christian-Bible based (even IF one wasn't Christian), while America itself moderated its behavior accordingly and by the Golden Rule. Our problems are related to a thoroughly corrupt ruling class and a population composed of self-centered clowns that think everyone exists to provide for them as individuals. Who marries who has NOTHING to do with it. You mean to tell me you can't tell whether America is a better OR worst place once the homofascist agenda kicked in? You have GOT to be kidding me. That corruption you allude to and self-centered clowns (aka narcissism) defines the Left and the militant gay agenda and insistence (or ELSE!) on acceptance of homo-marriage to a tee. Not that all the problem can be attributed to homofascism -- on that point you're right. Who RAISES who is a hell of a lot more important than who marries who. Yes, and since LBJ's Great Leftist Society, fathers were encouraged to leave families, divorces was encouraged, and sodomists were given parental "rights" (where NONE exist.) It's been an epic formula for FUBARing America. Parents,who by YOUR definition are all heterosexual moralists,gave up their rights and obligations to raise their own children decades ago,and gladly passed them off to the governemnt. THAT is the root of our problems. We now have multi-generations of children that grew up thinking the government is their daddy and mommy. You're partially absolutely correct -- especially on the surrender of independence ceded to gubmint (especially as Sugar Daddy.) You're right as well as the afore mentioned destruction of the family unit (especially blacks.) But in NO way shape or form have moral hetrosexual/normal people surrendered their respective "rights and obligations" to gubmint to raise their own kids. Don't know how you can conclude that.
Hitler did the same thing all your fundie ministers and every other wannabe dictator does,he gathered the people living on the edges of society,and used them as tools to gain power. And like your fundie ministers,he will abandon them the instant he gains power and doesn't need them anymore. The difference is Hitler hated them enough to have them executed,and for all your dogmatic kneejerk hatred,I doubt you or your cult leader want to execute them. You just want them to somehow "go away". Just when you've scaled height of insanity to Mount Everest you've exceeded you own record; Your insanity can now be discussed atop Mount Olympus. There's no refuting a cartoon character. It IS normal behavior for homosexuals. Just how fucking thick are you that you can't understand that? So because sodomists, psychopaths, necrophiliacs, and other assorted mentally ill lunatics all declare themelvces "normal," is reason to accept their mutant sickness, behavior and acts? On what planet are YOU on? These people are no threat to you in any way other than political... Oh, is THAT all? And who, genius, do you think controls laws and enforcement? POLITICIANS. Guess who are being coerced to think and act BY LAW a certain way (so not to "offend" sodomists? Yup. SODOMISTS-in-CHARGE.And their tool-box accessories, like you) BTW,what is your thoughts on the fundie ministers that have been caught having homosexual sex,or sex with the married women in their cults? They're hypocrites and sinners, and don't belong in leadership positions that represent the word of God. Next question?
No,and if you were to be honest with yourself,neither can you. Homosexuals as a group had ZERO political influence prior to the 90's,and in fact any politician or other public figure had negative influence if he or she were a known homosexual. Even that fruit Barney Frank stayed married to a woman and in the closet. Jerry Brown from Ca is still in the closet,and he's a re-run governor of the land of fruits and nuts. His first time as Governor he pretended he and Linda Ronstadt were a couple to give him and her both cover. They are both homosexuals. American culture had been destroyed a LONG time before homosexuals came out and became a political force. Your,and other fundie Christians claims they destroyed American culture ranks right up there with the insanity you promote that homosexuals being married somehow lessens the value of your own marriages. Yes, and since LBJ's Great Leftist Society, fathers were encouraged to leave families, divorces was encouraged, and sodomists were given parental "rights" (where NONE exist.) It's been an epic formula for FUBARing America. No argument there! But in NO way shape or form have moral hetrosexual/normal people surrendered their respective "rights and obligations" to gubmint to raise their own kids. Don't know how you can conclude that. If it's not true,how did all those laws get passed and how did they stay on the books? I know that MY claim is the vast majority of the families in this country consist of a heterosexual mother and father,and I assume you agree with this. If this is so where were they when the laws were passed that took away their parental rights (OBLIGATIONS!),and why were and are they silent on these issues? Trust me,I am as pissed off about this particular issue as your are,since in my mind this is at the root of the whole thing.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It's normal for THEM,and I would love to see every single "sodomist" (sodomite) in your church outed as sodomites and kicked out of your church. If that were to happen,there wouldn't be enough members there next Sunday to hold a bridge game. I suspect you might even be out looking for a new church to attend. BTW,are you really and truly so ignorant that you put sodomites (if you are going to rant and rave about how you hate something,you should at least use the correct word) in the same category as psychopaths,necrophiliacs,and other mentally ill people? BTW,in YOUR opinion,are cult members mentally ill? is reason to accept their mutant sickness, behavior and acts? It's not for me to accept or not accept. It's none of my business and I don't even want to know about it. *I* am not the one obsessed with homosexuality. On what planet are YOU on? Earth. You should take the time for a long visit here sometime. Nice place,mostly.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
My goodness she was a looker, back in the day.
You noticed that, did you. Lol
My goodness she was a looker, back in the day. And had the voice of a angel. Now she has some sort of disease that can't be treated that prevents her from singing. I know she is old now and not touring or making records like she used to,but her losing her voice is still a loss to the world.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
YOU DON'T KNOW IF HAVING TO BAKE A CAKE FOR YOUR FAG RELATIVES MAKES US BETTER. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE 1. A FAGGOT 2. YOU ARE AN IMMORAL FOOL 3. FAGS ARE SHARING THE CAKE WITH YOU AND YOU LIKE SLAVES MAKING YOUR CAKE. Pete your vision for the future is evil. People who try to implement your vision should be put down like a rabid dog. You're not smart. You're not clever. You're not moral. You're immoral. Your memory the past America doesn't exist. Pete look in the mirror you're and meguro are the problem.
How do you khow? Did you see him in your closet with you?
Pete you are mentally ill if you believe that statement. Just because your family is loaded with queers. The rest of America isn't. You're obviously a homosexual. You get bent out of shape if anyone criticizes your people.
Connecting Parkinson's disease and drug addiction: common players reveal unexpected disease connections and novel therapeutic approaches" www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21375485 AKA: "I-shouldn't-have-done-all-those-drugs-itis"
Evidence Links Cocaine Abuse And Parkinson's Disease Sex, Drugs and Parkinson's Disease Etc.
You're still mad that you had to marry a woman,ain't you? Isn't that at the core of your extreme hatred towards homosexual marriages,and why you think they somehow make your marriage less valid? Tell us all,are there any other groups of citizens in America that you demand be treated like Second Class citizens that have fewer rights than the rest of us?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
How do you khow? Did you see him in your closet with you? I saw him passing love notes to you. And just how shrewd are you to think I would be in the closet when of the two of us,*I* am the one that demands homosexuals be treated like everyone else and admit to having homosexual relatives?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yes, great voice. I wore out many of her tapes.
I think thou protest too much. BTW,you DO know that males and females can commit sodomy with each other,right? In YOUR mind,does that make them homosexuals?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I guess that makes me safe,because I never did care much for cocaine,and wouldn't have given you 5 dollars for a dump truck load back when I was getting high. Tried it several times,and it never did do anything for me. BTW,I have no evidence at all that Linda Ronstadt ever did a lot,or any,cocaine back in her glory days. I am just assuming she did a fair amount based on her lifestyle,occupation,wealth,and "the 60's". Even if she did a pound a day,she was still woman with an incredible voice and it is a shame she has lost it.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
"Linda Ronstadt, who did her share of cocaine during her heyday as the leading female rock singer of the '70s, thinks marijuana and other drugs should be legalized..." www.celebstoner.com/news/...ll-drugs-should-be-legal/ Yep. www.amazon.com/Whats-New-Linda-Ronstadt/dp/B00006LSRY It's tragic. And what's more tragic is that her opinions and the gift of her voice were rendered into the bleating of a drug abusing Judas goat.
Look Closer. EHRLICHMAN: It's fatal liberality. NIXON: Huh? EHRLICHMAN: It's fatal liberality. And with its use on television, it has such leverage. NIXON: You know what's happened [in northern California]? EHRLICHMAN: San Francisco has just gone clear over. NIXON: But it's not just the ratty part of town. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time--it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco. Decorators. They got to do something. But we don't have to glorify it. You know one of the reasons fashions have made women look so terrible is because the goddamned designers hate women. Designers taking it out on the women. Now they're trying to get some more sexy things coming on again. EHRLICHMAN: Hot pants. NIXON: Jesus Christ.
"8-1984 - Lawrence King [Homosexual and alleged Pedophile] throws a lavish party in Dallas, Texas, after singing the National Anthem at the Republican National GOP Convention." http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=9
Uhhh,I don't consider Nixon and Ehrlichman to have been the most alert people on the planet back then. As far as that goes,San Francisco and The Bohemian Grove crowd were a small crowd most Americans had never even heard of,and would have ridiculed if they had. They were almost exclusively a rich,trendy,trust fund crowd. I pass through San Francisco a couple of times in the 60's thanks to my army travel agent. The first time was in 65,and the second time was in 68. Both times I was wearing Army dress greens and a Green Beret with jump boots,and not a single hippy tried to hassle me. I got invited to parties,and everybody wanted to talk to me and ask my what I thought of the VN war. Let's just say they heard a different take on it than the one they were used to hearing,but they all politely listened to me and we had a non-hostile debate. The only trouble I had was with a black shoeshine guy on Market street. I ended up knocking him on his ass and kicking him in the head inside the Doggy Diner. Some people you just can't reason with,so you have to use other methods. BTW,if I saw a homosexual during either of my visits to San Francisco I didn't know it. All I really remember seeing was young males and females wanting to get together and hump their brains out.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Ok,so a home sang the National Anthem at a Republican even in Dallas in 1984. Big deal. It was a local event,and he was the hired help. Maybe Boy Jorge hired him so he wouldn't feel lonesome?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The NATIONAL GOP convention is "local". LOL. GeeOpie - Eyes Wide Shut much?
[sneakypete #105] I love the way you state they are "absurd claims" yet never come right out and say they are not true. I have stated many times previously that the absurd claims you puked up, as posted by others over the past years, are not only absurd, but absurdly untrue. If they were true, they would not be absurd. If they were possibly true, they would not be absurd. They are not possibly true, have been proven utterly untrue for ten years, and are utter garbage. They are completely indefensible, therefore you cannot make any real effort to defend the claims you made by your supposed recall of the news.
Why, no. You must have been in a coma for at least 20 years, since the Nixon tapes started getting released and removed any and all doubt. The “partisan” committee voted for the articles of impeachment, Article I (27-11), Article II (28-10) and Article III (21-17). That was before the smoking gun tape was released. When it was about to come to vote of the full house, Nixon resigned. He had almost no support in the House and was informed by the leading Senators that he faced certain conviction in the Senate with less than 15 senators still supporting him. Hearing him commit crimes in tape recorded conversations removes doubt in all except those who refuse to hear. Perhaps it was House Resolution 803 that passed 410-4 that you find partisan. RESOLVED, That the Committee on the Judiciary acting as a whole or by any subcommittee thereof appointed by the Chairman for the purposes hereof and in accordance with the Rules of the Committee, is authorized and directed to investigate fully and completely whether sufficient grounds exist for the House of Representatives to exercise its constitutional power to impeach Richard M. Nixon, President of the United States of America. The committee shall report to the House of Representatives such resolutions, articles of impeachment, or other recommendations as it deems proper.
I will not ask for citations because none exist. Despite the descriptions of Hillary’s presentation of procedures to the committee, the transcript of the proceedings indicate she did not say a mumbling word. The junior counsel do not get speaking roles in the high drama. The presentations were made by John Doar, Special Counsel, and Joseph Woods., Senior Associate Special Counsel. I did find one place where Hillary Rodham’s name came up. In Book I where the Impeachment Inquiry Procedures were presented to the subcommittee, Rep. Kastenmeier (chairman) presiding. From page 378: Mr. WOODS: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On my left is Hillary Rodham and John Labovitz; on the far right John Davidson of the inquiry staff. The following is the draft of procedures to which the chairman referred. Mr. KASTENMEIER. It is captioned “Impeachment Inquiry Procedures,” is that correct? Mr. WOODS: That is correct, sir. The document referred to is herein titled “Impeachment Inquiry Procedures.” The Committee on the Judiciary states the following procedures applicable to the presentation of evidence in the impeachment inquiry pursuant to House Resolution 803, subject to modification by the committee as it deems proper as the presentation proceeds. [Reading:] On page 400, it shows that the procedures, as amended, were adopted unanimously. To see how the Impeachment Inquiry Staff actually functioned, and how the neophyte attorney Hillary Rodham was actually assigned “grunt work” see the following from the Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum. In Joseph Woods recorded interview by Timothy Naftali, October 27, 2011, the Richard Nixon Oral History Project of the Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, one finds: At ii: Joseph Woods served as Senior Associate Special Counsel to U.S. House of Representatives Impeachment Inquiry Staff in 1974. Woods headed the Constitutional and Legal Section of the Inquiry Staff. At 6-7: Woods: Of course, he was the ultimate decider of all issues that had to do with the functioning of the staff. [...] Woods: … The organization of the inquiry staff was quite different. Each task force within the operation was made up of committee staff and minority staff so that Weld and Davidson, for example, who were on the minority staff were members of my unit, my task force, and Weld was involved in the writing of the grounds of impeachment memo. As I recall it, Davidson was not. He was involved with other projects. I think we worked effectively. [...] And [keep] in mind that there were no criminal statutes of the United States at the time that the Constitution was adopted but the Constitution had in it high crimes and misdemeanors. It couldn’t have meant crimes as it came to be defined in the criminal statutes of the United States because there was no United States and therefore there were no such statutes. There were no federal crimes. At 8: Woods: Yes. The Grounds of Impeachment report was issued in February 1974, printed by the GPO, and the foreward was signed by Peter Rodino on February 22, 1974. At 10: Woods: She did not work on the memo. Her principle role came later in working with me to draft the procedures that the committee would follow in conducting its hearings on the evidence. She and I essentially did that. Obviously with John Doar’s approval, but Hillary and I wrote those procedures. [...] Woods: Well, the starting point is the rules for the conduct of those procedures could be whatever the committee decided they were going to be. They dirivited from the fact that the sole power of impeachment is lodged in the House of Representatives is the proposition that the House can make its own rules. And those rules could be as restrictive and as secretive, provide for secrecy. Then there’s the liberal cast of the Democrats on the committee who were firmly committed to the proposition that there has to be due process about everything and that open hearings and the opportunity to confront witnesses, the opportunity to present a rebuttal case, and all these things that are part of what the United States are all about. At 11: At 15: Woods: I knew about it and I knew that Hillary had a key role in that project but I did not – and I met Dr. Woodward when he was down at the staff offices at one time but no, I did not have anything to do with the decision to retain him or with the project with him as it went forward. Naftali: Can you recall what role Hillary Rodham played in that? Woods: Well, I think she was the liaison with Dr. Woodward. Beyond that, I can’t answer the question. Naftali: Was this Mr. Doar’s idea do you know? Woods: That, I don’t know. Certainly, it was one that he approved of or it wouldn’t have happened. At 21-23: Woods: Well, she was an excellent person to work with. She is the one person that I asked for to be on my task force. I was very much impressed by her when I met her the day that she and I both reported for duty back then and I specifically requested John Doar to put her on my task force, which he did. She would do what you asked her to do. I never heard her express any reticence to undertake a task that might seem mundane given that she had recently finished a prestigious law school. She was a very diligent worker. Was easy to work with. I give her very high marks all around. Naftali: Since she did not write or help write the memo on the constitutional grounds for impeachment, what were her first tasks? Woods: John Doar was very distrustful of computers and, in any event, they were in their infancy at the time. When I got there in January of ’74 there was not such a thing as a memory typewriter in the organization and I believe that was probably true in the Congress but I’m not sure about that. It certainly was a fact in the inquiry staff and I was able to, after some argument, to get an IBM Selectric typewriter for my secretary and whenever people had things they wanted to be able to revise they were forever seeking her assistance because she had the one machine in the office that was capable of any sort of memory. Against that background, we had to have some kind of system to try to make a given bit of information available to people in various categories of inquiry. Let’s take an incident that took place that both John Doar and I had great significance. It took place in Key Biscayne when Mr. Nixon learned of the Watergate report of the apprehension of the Watergate burglars. He threw an ashtray across the room. Both Doar and I thought that that was the disgust of a person who said they blew it. That it was not the anger of someone who thought it was the wrong thing to have done. Now, that makes very nicely the distinction between the Statement of Information and the fact, if you will. And so the Statement of Information ultimately would be just a report of the throwing of the ashtray without any comment as to what the significance of that might’ve been. With that particular incidents could’ve had ramifications for different people looking into little bits of this and that somewhere in the factual investigation so, if we had computers, it would’ve been easy to bring up that information. It certainly would be now and I think it would’ve been then, to bring up that information in various context. But we didn’t have that capability. So what we did was to develop a system of punch cards where we put these pieces of information on the card and then we notched out things that it didn’t apply to and assigned little holes to different categories of inquiry and then if you wanted to find all of the incidents that fell within a certain category, you ran a long knitting needle through the holes at the end and you pulled up the cards that hadn’t been notched out. It was that primitive. And as a way station toward developing those cards, we had a system of little, not even 3X5, even smaller than that, coupons that were produced in carbon in numerous copies and these were filed in different databases, if you will. And designing those little coupons and working out the system of the cards that were going to be picked up by the knitting needles was something that Hillary and I worked on. And that’s what she was doing, which is essentially grunt work, while some of the other people had the fun of writing the grounds memo. And she never complained. Naftali: Then you gave her the more interesting task of working on the procedures. Woods: Well, that’s true. Naftali: By the way, this whole process emerged because Mr. Doar didn’t like computers. Woods: Well, I’m not sure what the capabilities of computers were at that time and I’m not sure I understand what they are yet. But I’m gradually getting there, but very gradually. Naftali: So you and Hillary Rodham worked then with the library. With Maureen, because the library – wasn’t that where all these coupons were placed in the end? Woods: Beats me where they were. I don’t remember. I simply don’t remember. I get the general impression that the system was not very successful. That it didn’t serve the purpose very well. But of course I’m not sure that the computers of that day would’ve been that helpful either. Naftali: I’m just wondering, where you got the idea for the knitting needle and the – where did that come from? I know it’s been a long time, but do you remember where that came from? Woods: No. No, I do not. Naftali: But anyhow, you and Hillary basically distilled the material down to these cards which would then be transferred to these punch cards. Woods: No, I’m not trying to say that she was making the entries on the cards. I’m saying that she and I worked on trying to figure out what the system was going to be. I think it was a mighty a labor to produce a mouse, to define one now. It was just not a successful thing.
I did not cite any claim challenging the Clintons. There are so many valid claims that the claims made by sneakypete are unnecessary, and as inexcusably absurd as the claim that Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen, or that Nixon committed no crime other than the coverup of “the break-in”. The proof that Obama did not lose his citizenship in Indonesia is that it was legally impossible. Indonesian law provided that adopted children under the age of 5 years could automatically obtain citizenship. Obama was not 4 years old. So, it did not happen under Indonesian law, which also prohibited naturalization if it resulted in dual citizenship. Even if Obama had been eligible and Indonesia officially had granted him Indonesian citizenship, there is not an act a parent can do which relieves an American born child of his or her citizenship. Remarriage to a foreigner does not do it. The parent cannot revoke citizenship for a minor child. There appears to be no evidence of an official adoption but it is irrelevant to Obama’s eligibility. http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/sal/066_statutes_at_large.pdf 66 Stat. 267, PUBLIC LAW 414, JUNE 27, 1952 NATIONALITY ACT OF 1952 LOSS OF NATIONALITY BY NATIVE-BORN OR NATURALIZED CITIZEN Sec. 349. (a) From and after the effective date of this Act a person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by— (1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application, upon an application filed in his behalf by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, or through the naturalization of a parent having legal custody of such person: Provided, That nationality shall not be lost by any person under this section as the result of the naturalization of a parent or parents while such person is under the age of twenty-one years, or as the result of a naturalization obtained on behalf of a person under twenty-one years of age by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, unless such person shall fail to enter the United States to establish a permanent residence prior to his twenty-fifth birthday: And provided further, That a person who shall have lost nationality prior to January 1, 1948, through the naturalization in a foreign state of a parent or parents, may, within one year from the effective date of this Act, apply for a visa and for admission to the United States as a nonquota immigrant under the provisions of section 101 (a) (27) (E) ; or .... http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/BIRTHER%20CASE%20LIST.pdf See the scoresheet for birther futility in court (0-220) for decided cases.
Why should this thread have over 1,200 views? Why should anyone believe someone who posts urban legends? Why should anyone believe someone who cannot post any documentation for his or her claims? Cited and linked relevant official documents are not “documention”, they are just documentation. Presumably, you prefer fiction to fact.
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#106. To: nolu chan (#104)
#107. To: sneakypete (#95)
Guess what,Bucko! Christians don't run the world.
#108. To: sneakypete (#96)
I honestly don't give a damn what you,homosexuals,or anyone else thinks. I only care when you lobby to get the laws changed so the government enforces your bigotry and superstition.
#109. To: sneakypete (#97)
#110. To: sneakypete (#98)
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Some of the strongarm "bully boys" in leadership positions with the police in the early days were homosexuals,but they were pretty much killed off once Hitler took power.
#111. To: nolu chan, sneakypete (#99)
#112. To: nolu chan, sneakypete (#103)
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Absurd claims that Barack 0bama was really Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen, worked so well that you want to emulate it and drag out all the ridiculous claims about Hillary.
#113. To: Liberator (#112)
#114. To: Zesta, nolu chan (#113)
Who is this all-knowing "nolu chan" anyway? Why should anyone believe someone who finds it so very important to provide "documentation" on a website that is likely to be read by less than a hundred people?
#115. To: Liberator (#109)
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The Christian ethic and faith has indeed been the traditional foundation and underpinning on from America built its greatness.
#116. To: Liberator (#110)
You're agreeing *with* me in part:
#117. To: Zesta (#113)
Who is this all-knowing "nolu chan" anyway?
#118. To: sneakypete (#115)
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Christianity doesn't own the patent on ethnic behavior.
#119. To: sneakypete (#116)
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I do agree that both fundies and Hitler were/are big fans of the "Big Lie",though.
#120. To: Liberator (#118)
You mean to tell me you can't tell whether America is a better OR worst place once the homofascist agenda kicked in? `
#121. To: Liberator (#119)
So because sodomists, psychopaths, necrophiliacs, and other assorted mentally ill lunatics all declare themelvces "normal,"
#122. To: sneakypete (#120)
Linda Ronstadt
#123. To: Fred Mertz (#91)
#124. To: Biff Tannen (#122)
Linda Ronstadt
#125. To: sneakypete (#120)
You mean to tell me you can't tell whether America is a better OR worst place once the homofascist agenda kicked in? ` No,and if you were to be honest with yourself,neither can you.
#126. To: sneakypete (#120)
Jerry Brown from Ca is still in the closet,
#127. To: sneakypete (#121)
It's normal for THEM,and I would love to see every single "sodomist" (sodomite) in your church outed as sodomites and kicked out of your church. If that were to happen,there wouldn't be enough members there next Sunday to hold a bridge game.
#128. To: sneakypete (#124)
Now she has some sort of disease that can't be treated that prevents her from singing.
#129. To: sneakypete (#124)
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/12/051214084800.htm
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#130. To: A K A Stone (#125)
Pete look in the mirror you're and meguro are the problem.
#131. To: A K A Stone (#126)
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Jerry Brown from Ca is still in the closet,
#132. To: sneakypete (#124)
#133. To: A K A Stone (#127)
You're obviously a homosexual. You get bent out of shape if anyone criticizes your people.
#134. To: VxH (#129)
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Evidence Links Cocaine Abuse And Parkinson's Disease
#135. To: sneakypete (#134)
ave no evidence at all that Linda Ronstadt ever did a lot,or any,cocaine back in her glory days.
she was still woman with an incredible voice and it is a shame she has lost it.
#136. To: sneakypete (#120)
Homosexuals as a group had ZERO political influence prior to the 90's,
#137. To: sneakypete, liberator (#120)
#138. To: VxH (#136)
#139. To: VxH (#137)
#140. To: sneakypete (#139)
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It was a local event
#141. To: sneakypete (#105)
[nc #103] Absurd claims that Barack Obama was really Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen, worked so well that you want to emulate it and drag out all the ridiculous claims about Hillary.
#142. To: sneakypete (#106)
Are you really so stupid that you think a mind-numbing list of accusations that were and are partisan in nature and never proven makes the criminals and traitors you support look any better?
On February 6, 1974, the House of Representatives adopted by a vote of 410-4 the following House Resolution 803:
#143. To: Liberator, sneakypete (#111)
With respect to Hitlery's "firing" or technically "let go" from her position and involvement in Nixon's Impeachment proceedings, the unofficial "word on the street" was that Hitlery was sloppy, ventured into darker gray areas, and acted inappropriately in any case (no, please don't ask for citations :-)
Mr. KASTENMEIER: In any event, I will ask our stafff, including the senior associate counsel, Joseph Woods in addition to Mr. Samuel Garrison to identify the other counsel present for the reporter and for the committee, following which I would ask you to start reading the draft to the committee.
Biographical Note
Naftali: What role did Mr. Doar play in these discussions?
Naftali: When your staff completed this memo in a month, I believe, it just took you a little over a month.
Naftali: Let me ask you before we move from the story of the memo on the constitutional grounds for impeachment, what role do you remember Hillary Rodham playing? What did she do as part of your team?
Woods: I tried not to take a position as to what the rules should be. I took a position on what the rules could be which was unlimited in their scope and let the committee express its views. Actually, it was more a subcommittee of the committee, express its views on what the rules ought to be and then we, Hillary and I, tried to write rules that reflected what we understood the committee – the subcommittee to be saying to us. I do not believe that we recommended to the subcommittee any set of rules other than to say that here is what we think you said. Committee, do we have it right? The subcommittee was chaired by Representative Casimir from Wisconsin and I remember that one of the members of the committee was Representative Hungate. I think he was from Missouri. Wherever he was from, Mr. Hungate was very clear about the importance of forwarding proper latitude to the defense and I would say that he, as much as anybody, was the architect of the spirit of the rules that were finally adopted and what Hillary and I did was try to put on paper our understanding of what was necessary. The details that were appropriate to give effect to that spirit.
Naftali: … Thank you. Mr. Woods, let me ask you whether you were involved at all in the decision to recruit Professor C. Vann Woodward to do a study of presidential abuses of power?
Naftali: Tell me a bit about – well, let me ask you this. Given the prominence that she would have later, what was it like to work with Hillary Rodham?
#144. To: Liberator, sneakypete (#112)
How can you state without reservation that ANY claim challenging either the 0webumas or the Klintoons are "ridiculous" when it's clear as day that in all cases, shenanigans is the rule rather than exception? It's easy to claim, "WHAT PROOF?!?" when people in high places are manipulating indictable evidence and eliminating witnesses. Or do you also dismiss THAT notion?
CHAPTER 3—LOSS OF NATIONALITY
#145. To: Zesta, Liberator (#113)
Why should anyone believe someone who finds it so very important to provide "documentation" on a website that is likely to be read by less than a hundred people?
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