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Title: 'I'm planning a heinous act that will be remembered forever': Killer pilot's ex-girlfriend says he shared chilling prophecy before Alps crash and woke up from nightmares shouting 'we're going down'
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URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... mares-shouting-going-down.html
Published: Mar 27, 2015
Author: David Williams and Sam Marsden and Tom K
Post Date: 2015-03-27 22:51:41 by out damned spot
Keywords: Lubitz, girl friend, crash
Views: 14197
Comments: 88

*Andreas Lubitz told former girlfriend he was planning an act so horrifying his name would be remembered forever

*He was a master of hiding his darkest thoughts and frightened his former lover so much she decided to leave him

*Startling revelations add weight to claims the pilot concealed medical condition that should have stopped him flying

*Comes after it emerged Lubitz should have been off sick on day he deliberately crashed plane into mountainside

*Torn-up sick notes have been found in 27-year-old's flat which showed he had hidden extent of illness from airline

Killer pilot Andreas Lubitz told his ex-girlfriend he was planning an act so heinous his name would be remembered for ever, it was sensationally claimed last night.

Lubitz was a tormented, erratic man who was a master of hiding his darkest thoughts and would wake up from nightmares screaming ‘we’re going down’, his former partner said.

She revealed to a German newspaper how Lubitz ominously told her last year: ‘One day I will do something that will change the whole system, and then all will know my name and remember it.’

When she heard about the crash of Germanwings Flight 4U9525 on Tuesday, she remembered Lubitz’s menacing prophecy. ‘I never knew what he meant, but now it makes sense,’ she told Bild.

His personal problems and erratic behaviour was so severe that she was frightened and decided to leave him.

She added: ‘When I heard about the crash, there was just a tape playing in my head of what he said, “One day I will do something that will change the system and everyone will then know my name and remember me”.

‘I did not know what he meant by that at the time, but now it’s clear.’

Police will want to interview the unnamed former girlfriend in detail about the pilot’s state of mind. The couple had been together for seven years and lived in a smart flat on the outskirts of Dusseldorf. One report claimed they were engaged and planned to marry next year.

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#1. To: out damned spot, Liberator (#0)

Woh.

Pretty much explains it all. Except what his unknown medical condition was.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-27   22:56:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TooConservative, out damned spot, Vicomte13 (#1) (Edited)

Pretty much explains it all. Except what his unknown medical condition was.

Pretty much only explains the official narrative to the degree that the public now has their red herring. By official decree.

This "darkly disturbed" meme was so predictable. Of well, kids -- CASED CLOSED. Let's put to rest all that nonsense on any speculative presumption or sources that Lubitz attended a Mosque, converted to Islam, then fulfilled his "duty" by slaughtering a plane-load of infidels. And let's ignore the official answer ("It doesn't matter" to the still unanswered question, "What religion was the co-pilot?"

So...What are the odds??

In the last 20 years or so, we know that only "darkly" disturbed, depressed people engage in calculated, premeditated missions of mass murder. Could technically be true. BUT WAIT. Haven't these kinds of mass murderers anecdotally statistically been... ONLY be Muslims??

FAKE meme. FAKE narrative. FAKE "official report." Once again.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-28   15:30:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Liberator (#33) (Edited)

Let's put to rest all that nonsense on any speculative presumption or sources that Lubitz attended a Mosque, converted to Islam

Not buying the muslim terrorist angle here. There has been no credible evidence that would point to this as a terrorist act.

The so-called muslim conversion was based on speculation. In fact it can not be even be proven that he visited a mosque. He was in the same city where there was a mosque which was being investigated - that's it. And it was 6 years ago.

There was no written or vocal expression on the part of the pilot saying he was doing this for allah. And nothing on his Facebook page.

Sometimes crazy people do crazy things.

The Evidence That the Germanwings Copilot Was Muslim Is Sketchy as Hell

Gateway Pundit writes, "A German news website claims Andreas Lubitz was a Muslim convert. Speisa.com reported: 'According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.'"

It also cites "the comments at German PI"—on a story about Lubitz that mentions nothing about Muslims, Islam, or IS—as a source for the claim that "Andreas Lubitz was Muslim convert from his Facebook page."

"PI" is a site called Politically Incorrect News, which is not exactly Der Spiegel, and they didn't even run a story about Lubitz's supposed conversion to Islam. That story came from PI-News blogger Michael Mannheimer's personal website, where he put together the following information:

  • Lubitz trained as a pilot in Bremen, which is also the home of a mosque that was investigated in December for alleged supporting the Islamic State. (This is true, according to Der Spiegel.)
  • Lubitz took a few months off at one point before returning to work and getting recertified to fly. (This is also true: Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr confirmed that Lubitz "took a break in his training six years ago. Then he did the tests again. And he was deemed fit to fly.")

From these two data points—a mosque recently under investigation and a break Lubitz took six years ago—Mannheimer concluded (and this is roughly translated from the German by Google): "Probably Lubitz converted to Islam during this interruption."

Deckard  posted on  2015-03-28   16:51:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Deckard, TooConservative (#41) (Edited)

Not buying the muslim terrorist angle here. There has been no credible evidence that would point to this as a terrorist act.

The "evidence" is circumstantial, based on the statistical rate and profiling of these kinds cases of "terrorism": Muslim, 99% of the time; As well as the initial reports, attributed by some as been invented by some as a k00ky, discredited website (as though our gubmint spokesmen, CNN, and the NYT are bastions of truth.)

Any "hearsay" of Lubitz' purported Muzzie background of dabbling and personal history at this point is predictably tamped down by the PTB as well. I'm merely connecting the dots and truth that the PTB regard as toxic, and their ability to create whatever narrative and alternative "evidence" it is they wish to create.

There was no written or vocal expression on the part of the pilot saying he was doing this for allah. And nothing on his Facebook page.

The Facebook page was immediately pulled. Screaming "Allahu Akbar!! isn't necessarily requisite, is it?

I find it unbelievably naive to believe this airline would allow Lubitz to be a co-pilot in his fragile, mentally ill state of mind -- supposedly documented to the nines. Does THIS angle really make any sense??

From these two data points—a mosque recently under investigation and a break Lubitz took six years ago—Mannheimer concluded (and this is roughly translated from the German by Google): "Probably Lubitz converted to Islam during this interruption."

As though Google, Facebook, and the "investigators" can be trusted NOT to re-invent history? The big crisis today: CGI or Holodeck versions of "history," "facts," and "news." The credibly of institutions is so discredited these days, that all one really has left is their own discernment of the truth.

The ol' Matrix Red Pill, Blue Pill conundrum is where we've been at since 9/11.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-29   13:14:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Liberator (#47)

Like I said - sometimes crazy people do crazy things.

There is no credible evidence that this was a muslim terrorist act, no mater how desperately you want it to be so.

Deckard  posted on  2015-03-29   13:51:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Deckard, TooConservative (#50)

There is no credible evidence that this was a muslim terrorist act, no mater how desperately you want it to be so.

Not desperate at all for the Muzzie sandal to fall off -- I know it's not coming.

But is it really "crazy" to note that all these purposely crashed planes just happen to be tied to Islamists?

The authorites went in exactly the direction I thought; Backed up this guy's "craziness" with the yarn about his mental illness, validated it with some "surprise evidence" of torn up mental health status reports (that didn't stop Lubitz from co-piloting planes), as well as the fiancee's confirmation that, yes, he WAS "crazy."

(No news on the religion of Lubitz yet?? Lol...of course not)

All the evidence is pure speculation at this point.

Guess what? Any rejection of the 9/11 Official Report and presumption of alternative narratives still remain "speculation" as well.

I think we can agree with this: The major media and world gubmint(s) have ZERO credibility. And a NWO/subversive agenda supersedes ANY need for the truth or justice.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-29   14:09:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Liberator (#54) (Edited)

But is it really "crazy" to note that all these purposely crashed planes just happen to be tied to Islamists?

That may be true in other cases - not here however.

Germanwings Co-Pilot Andreas Lubitz Appears to Have Deliberately Crashed Plane

With the plane markedly in descent, the captain can be heard knocking on the cockpit door. That sound swelled into frantic banging as the plane neared alpine peaks, setting off audible alarms.

“The most plausible interpretation for us is that the co-pilot deliberately refused to open the cockpit door to the captain,” Mr. Robin said.

Amid the cacophony, Mr. Lubitz remained silent, the prosecutor said. The only sound coming from the co-pilot, Mr. Robin said, was his breathing. The prosecutor marveled at how it didn’t waver as the A320 entered the final stages of its collision course.

“He didn’t say a single word,” Mr. Robin said, adding: “It’s not the breathing of someone who is having a heart attack.”

Seems to me that if the guy was indeed a muslim, there would be prayers or an "allah akbar" or two audible.

I think we can agree with this: The major media and world gubmint(s) have ZERO credibility.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And a NWO/subversive agenda supersedes ANY need for the truth or justice.

I hardly think that this was all orchestrated by the NWO for their agenda. He was no doubt on some type of anti-depressant drugs, he was mentally unstable.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Deckard  posted on  2015-03-29   14:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Deckard, liberator (#55) (Edited)

Seems to me that if the guy was indeed a muslim, there would be prayers or an "allah akbar" or two audible.

If ISIS could score a victory this sweet, meaning 200 plus lives in a single terroristic act, they would have left enough evidence, To be found after the fact, to be claimed by them after its discovered.

You can't stir up "terror", as a "terrorist", if you make people guess who done it. lol

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-03-29   14:28:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: GrandIsland, Deckard (#57)

If ISIS could score a victory this sweet, meaning 200 plus lives in a single terroristic act, they would have left enough evidence, To be found after the fact, to be claimed by them after its discovered.

Negative. Any evidence would necessarily be buried; When the initial reports emerged that Lubitz was a Muslim, the sh*t was really about to hit the fan. HARD. It got shut down in a flash, while the "crazy" meme was activated even faster.

This kind of PR would be reeeealy bad for both Euro-Muzzies, as well as the NWO Euro-Leaders who've been usurping the rights of its Europeans brethren, importing these barbarians, and hanging their own out to dry.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-29   16:39:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Liberator (#62)

Then the initial reports emerged that Lubitz was a Muslim, the sh*t was really about to hit the fan.

NYSlimes, today:

And there is anger at the media onslaught that, for several days, made it almost impossible to walk the cobblestones of the city’s picturesque old quarter without being accosted by a camera crew looking for local reaction.

The Rev. Michael Dietrich, pastor of a Lutheran church on the edge of town where Mr. Lubitz’s mother sometimes played the organ, tried to address the spiritual quandary during his regular sermon Sunday morning.

The question posed itself for families of the victims, Pastor Dietrich said, “and also for the family of co-pilot Lubitz who many of us knew personally.”

It may be that his mother just fills in for absences of the local organist, perhaps getting paid for the gig.

I read elsewhere that the town and local area has a religious composition of 40% Roman Catholic, 33% Lutheran, 25% non-religious (which would leave 12% left over for Muslims, Prots, eastern religions, etc.).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-30   9:06:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: TooConservative, Deckard, redleghunter, jeremaid, Stoner, A K A Stoner, CZ82, Vicomte13 (#77)

And there is anger at the media onslaught that, for several days, made it almost impossible to walk the cobblestones of the city’s picturesque old quarter without being accosted by a camera crew looking for local reaction.

The Rev. Michael Dietrich, pastor of a Lutheran church on the edge of town where Mr. Lubitz’s mother sometimes played the organ, tried to address the spiritual quandary during his regular sermon Sunday morning.

The question posed itself for families of the victims, Pastor Dietrich said, “and also for the family of co-pilot Lubitz who many of us knew personally.”

It may be that his mother just fills in for absences of the local organist, perhaps getting paid for the gig.

Well, there might be anger in this quaint little town, but they're gonna have to suck it up. I commend any reporters who are able to find ANY local scoop on their local demon, but I doubt it. They're better off visiting Bremen.

Lubitz mother had been the organist for a while according to reports I'd seen....It's obviously her church, could be it's a paid gig in any case. The local Lutheran reverend (according to reports) was said to be "praying" for sonny-boy family, as well as for the families 149 murder victims. I'd loved to have heard his sermon yesterday.

The same Lutheran Rev. Dietrich admitted he remembered Lubitz....but it was 13-14 years ago. It's noted he claims, Dietrich is praying "for the family of co-pilot Lubitz who many of us knew personally.” Are we to interpret this statement has also including Andreas Lubitz, Hometown-boy-makes-bad? OR, everyone BUT?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-30   15:12:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Liberator (#81) (Edited)

It's noted he claims, Dietrich is praying "for the family of co-pilot Lubitz who many of us knew personally.”

Ambiguous, perhaps deliberately so. Lutheran clergy can be a little cagey. Or it's just a case of so-so translation from German.

The narrative being hawked and reinforced 24/7 by the media (and their "parent company," the PTB) is still that Lubitz has simply been an absolute mental case for quite some time -- years. The supposed testimony of Lubitz' supposed ex-fiancee has been to support that notion. Then HOW can Lubitz' mental illness possibly be a surprise to Lufthansa/GermanWings?

Because pilots have medical privacy. They do have to pass the annual flight physicals but are otherwise private about their medical care. Only the flight physicals are released to the company. So any psychiatric or vision testing would be private and the airline would have no idea at all.

I see that they're now saying that Lubitz thought he had a torn cornea giving him blurry vision in one eye. Supposedly, the exams from the two ophthalmologists indicated no physical defects and suggested his blurry vision was psychosomatic but Lubitz remained convinced that he would fail his next flight physical on the vision tests.

Another Euroweenie airline switched to the two-people-in-cockpit-at-all-times rule like America has had since 9/11. I bet they will all switch by the end of the week, at least for passenger flights.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-30   15:19:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: TooConservative (#83)

....Pilots have medical privacy. They do have to pass the annual flight physicals but are otherwise private about their medical care.

Only the flight physicals are released to the company. So any psychiatric or vision testing would be private and the airline would have no idea at all.

...I see that they're now saying that Lubitz thought he had a torn cornea giving him blurry vision in one eye.

I realize there's a medical privacy issue that's respected in Germany. But to what extent and liability?

If Lubitz divulged thoughts of suicide or murder to his mental health "Consigliere," is the law structured that it can not be shared with authoritahs (or employer) -- no matter how heinous or dangerous? Zilch obligation by either party? Or what of the extent of "privacy" in a case of a pilot with legal blindness? Is this some kind of "honor system" where the ONLY the patient can share info, and only at his/her discretion?

Another Euroweenie airline switched to the two-people-in-cockpit-at-all-times rule like America has had since 9/11. I bet they will all switch by the end of the week, at least for passenger flights.

Can o' worms....The events of 9/11 screwed our world a thousand different ways.

Might be prudent to employ air marshals or, at minimum, the employment of a private, stealth, armed "passenger." But again, this is Europe.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-30   15:48:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Liberator (#86)

If Lubitz divulged thoughts of suicide or murder to his mental health "Consigliere," is the law structured that it can not be shared with authoritahs (or employer) -- no matter how heinous or dangerous? Zilch obligation by either party? Or what of the extent of "privacy" in a case of a pilot with legal blindness? Is this some kind of "honor system" where the ONLY the patient can share info, and only at his/her discretion?

It is medical privacy just like we have in the States. Strictly confidential. Much of what is known publicly comes from what has been found in his apartment.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-03-30   19:11:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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