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Title: Should Christians Be Hospitable to Cult Members?
Source: Grace to You
URL Source: http://www.gty.org/resources/bible- ... ble-to-cult-members?Term=cults
Published: Mar 11, 2015
Author: John MacArthur
Post Date: 2015-03-11 16:41:49 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 40482
Comments: 144

In verse 10 John sets out one practical application of how to defend the truth: If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house. Hospitality for traveling teachers was common in the culture (cf. Luke 9:1-6; 10:1-12). The prohibition here is not to turn away the ignorant; it does not mean that believers may not invite unbelievers—even those who belong to a cult or false religion—into their midst. That would make giving the truth to them difficult, if not impossible. The point is that believers are not to welcome and provide care for traveling false teachers, who seek to stay in their homes, thereby giving the appearance of affirming what they teach and lending them credibility

John’s use of the conjunction ei (if) with an indicative verb indicates a condition that is likely true. Apparently, the lady to whom he wrote had for whatever reason, in the name of Christian fellowship, already welcomed false teachers into her home. It was just such compassionate, well-meaning people that the false teachers sought out (cf. 2 Tim. 3:6); since churches were supposed to be protected by elders who were skilled teachers of the Word (1 Tim. 3:2; Titus 1:9), they should have been less susceptible to the lies propagated by the deceivers. Having established themselves in homes, the false teachers hoped eventually to worm their way into the churches. It is much the same today, as false teaching insidiously invades Christian homes through television, radio, the Internet, and literature.

So threatening are these emissaries of Satan that Jo[h]n went on to forbid even giving them a greeting; for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds. Irenaeus relates that the church father Polycarp, when asked by the notorious heretic Marcion, “Do you know me?” replied, “I do know you—the firstborn of Satan” (Against Heresies, 3.3.4). John himself once encountered Cerinthus (another notorious heretic) in a public bathhouse in Ephesus. Instead of greeting him, however, John turned and fled, exclaiming to those with him, “Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, because Cerinthus, the enemy of the truth, is within” (Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 3.3.4).


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#2. To: redleghunter (#0)


So who are you calling a cult?
Mormons?
Scientologists?
Branch Davidians?
Jehovah Witnesses?
Amish or Mennonites?

Willie Green  posted on  2015-03-11   16:54:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#2)

Amish or Mennonites?

The Amish and Mennonites never knock on my door.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-11   16:58:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#3) (Edited)

The Amish and Mennonites never knock on my door.

What about Quakers or Hare Krishna?
Christian Scientists, Salvation Army, Rosicrucians, Unitarians or Wiccans?

Who is a cult?

Willie Green  posted on  2015-03-11   17:04:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Willie Green (#4) (Edited)

Who is a cult?

What is your religion? That would be a cult. Any religion that denies christ is a cult.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-11   18:05:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#11) (Edited)

What is your religion? That would be a cult. Any religion that denies christ is a cult.

I'm Roman Catholic.
We usually capitalize the "c" in Christ, to indicate that we recognize that He is the Lord our God & Savior.
If I'm not mistaken, that is common practice in protestant denominations also.

So what is your religion?
Is it a cult?

Willie Green  posted on  2015-03-11   18:15:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green (#14)

Catholics pray to Mary. That is forbidden.

They call the pope holy father. The Bible says not to do that.

The Catholics took one of the commandments and threw it in trash. Then split another into two parts.

There are Catholics that are saved. But it has a cult element to it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-11   18:17:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Catholics pray to Mary. That is forbidden.

It is also forbidden to pray out loud while making a spectacle of yourself in public.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. -- Mathew 6:6

PRAISE THE LORD PRAISE THE LORD, HALLELUJAH -- sinful...

cranko  posted on  2015-03-11   19:16:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: cranko (#21)

But thou, when thou prayest

Does that include prayer in church? Or just private prayer?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-11   19:19:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Does that include prayer in church? Or just private prayer?

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. -- Mathhew 6:5

It's pretty clear to me...

cranko  posted on  2015-03-11   19:22:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: cranko (#23)

Question: "If Jesus condemned the Pharisees for praying out loud, should we pray aloud?"

Answer: There are several references in the New Testament to public prayers that are unacceptable, and it is true that Jesus condemned the Pharisees’ manner of praying. But Jesus Himself prayed out loud on occasion (see John 17), as did the apostles (Acts 8:15; 16:25; 20:36). Acts 1:14 says, "They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers." Then in verse 24, the apostles prayed together to choose someone to fill Judas' spot among the twelve. They were clearly praying together and out loud. So, the sin was not in the public nature of the prayer or the fact that people could hear it.

In Luke 18:10-14, Jesus gives this parable: “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people— robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” Notice that the tax collector also prayed aloud, but his prayer was from a humble heart, and God accepted it. The sin of the Pharisees was not public prayer but a haughty spirit.

Later, Jesus says, "Beware of the scribes, who like to walk around in long robes, and love greetings in the marketplaces and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at feasts, who devour widows’ houses and for a pretense make long prayers. They will receive the greater condemnation" (Luke 20:46-47). Here the sin is not the audible nature of the prayer but its pretentiousness. Jesus condemns the hypocrisy of pretending to have a relationship with God while oppressing the very people He loves.

Then in Matthew 6:5, Jesus says, "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full." Again, Jesus is not condemning the fact that people prayed aloud, but that they were putting on a public display for their own benefit. Their motive—to be seen of men—was the problem. Such prayer is not real prayer, but empty words meant for the ears of other people (Hebrews 10:22). Proverbs 15:29 says, "The LORD is far from the wicked but he hears the prayer of the righteous."

In Ephesians 5:20, Paul instructs the church to "give thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ." Communal prayer is one way a local church worships God and encourages one another. What Jesus condemns is arrogance and hypocrisy. For someone who is clearly disobedient to God to lead a public prayer as though he or she had much to brag about is the kind of hypocrisy that Jesus denounced. To use public prayer as a means of showing off or impressing others is wrong. But sincere prayer from a humble heart is always welcomed by God and can be an encouragement to those who hear it (Psalm 51:17).

Read more: www.gotquestions.org/pray...t- loud.html#ixzz3U7fPa3lI

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-11 19:27:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: cranko (#23)

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. -- Mathhew 6:5

It's pretty clear to me...

So they are faux Christians in your view?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-03-11 22:41:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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