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Title: Maybe it’s time to elect a senator rather than a governor
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Published: Mar 2, 2015
Author: Matt Purple
Post Date: 2015-03-02 17:33:20 by Hondo68
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It is often said, usually by moderate Republicans, that the GOP should never nominate a senator as its presidential candidate. Governors, after all, have experience managing bureaucracies, and their abilities more neatly translate into the Oval Office. Last year at CPAC, Governor Chris Christie contrasted his own leadership to “people in Washington who only want to talk.” It wasn’t lost on anyone who he meant. There’s something to that critique, especially following the amateurish and demagogic presidency of former senator Barack Obama. As Madeleine Lee contemplates in Henry Adams’ novel Democracy: “To her mind the Senate was a place where people went to recite speeches, and she naively assumed that the speeches were useful and had a purpose, but as they did not interest her she never went again.” So pointless speechifying is a background senators must have. But another is foreign policy, something with which governors have no experience whatsoever. And if this year’s CPAC is any indication, it might be time to consider nominating one of those bloviating senators. The three serious 2016 Republican presidential candidates with gubernatorial experience, Scott Walker, Jeb Bush, and Chris Christie, offered nothing on foreign policy beyond gaffes and slogans. Governor Walker dented an otherwise shiny speech by comparing jihadists like ISIS to union demonstrators he faced in Wisconsin. “If I can take on 100,000 protesters, I can do the same around the world,” he declared. The Madison uprisings were rowdy, but their participants noticeably failed to implement Sharia law in the governor’s mansion or declare a caliphate over a vast swath of the Midwest. Walker later clarified to reporters: “Let me be perfectly clear: I’m just pointing out the closest thing I have to handling this difficult situation is the 100,000 protesters I had to deal with.” We noticed. Walker then outdid himself on Saturday by claiming that “the most significant foreign policy decision” of his lifetime was Ronald Reagan’s firing of thousands of air traffic controllers. This from someone who lived through part of the Vietnam War, much of the Cold War, Reagan’s bombing of Moammar Gaddafi, the invasion of Grenada, the Reykjavik negotiations with Gorbachev, the scrapping of the Berlin Wall, the First Gulf War, Mogadishu, the Rwandan Genocide, the intervention in Kosovo, Clinton’s attack on a Sudanese drug factory, 9/11, the war in Afghanistan, the Second Gulf War, Russia’s aggression against Georgia, the overthrow of Moammar Gaddafi, the Arab Spring, the Syrian Civil War, Putin’s annexing of Crimea, and the rise of ISIS. Former governor Jeb Bush is often called the most hawkish candidate in the race. But asked by Sean Hannity what he would do to confront ISIS, Bush only mentioned creating a safe zone for the Free Syrian Army and not restricting the president from deploying ground troops. This followed his ballyhooed foreign policy speech two weeks earlier that was notably vacant on foreign policy and characterized primarily by his harrumphing that he didn’t “understand the debate” over the NSA. Governor Chris Christie didn’t mention foreign policy once. To be fair, his address was in the form of an interview, and his questioner, Laura Ingraham, never asked him about ISIS or Iran. But even beyond CPAC, Christie has evinced little interest in foreign policy beyond attacking Rand Paul as “dangerous.” Contrast that with Paul himself, whose speech touched on many foreign policy specifics, and who’s been at the nucleus of several foreign policy initiatives in the Senate, including his drafting of an AUMF and his attempt to block foreign aid to Egypt following their military coup. Or even Marco Rubio: he spent most of his time at CPAC belting out the National Anthem while a star-spangled eagle flew him around the ballroom, but American exceptionalism theatrics aside, he unquestionably has experience with foreign policy issues. Yes, the Senate is a comfortable home for those who enjoy gazing at their own navels and hearing their own voices. But it’s also a debating forum, where legislation gets marked up and passed—where you generally have to know your stuff. The governors in the Republican presidential race have no experience with foreign policy, and thus far seem content to substitute the GOP’s usual slate of belligerence and militarism for serious thinking. Senators are more likely to resist this temptation. And even those that don’t can at least explain their positions.
Poster Comment: It looks like Perry might be headed towards the trash can?
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
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Look at those photos. All fairly current photos there except that photo of John Bush is at least 10 years old, maybe closer to 20 years old. The guy is a lot closer to 70 than to 50. I think Rubio is every bit as dangerous as Lady Lindsey and the Stain. You elect those guys and you will get wars.
Didn't we just do that....twice? Hasn't worked for mr.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Obola was a senator. The demonrats only have senators to throw at us.
"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)
Clinton and Bush were governors, and look at what disasters they turned out to be! And Carter? Governor!
OBOLA. Senator. Kind of destroys the argument for another Beltway bandit.
"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)
Both Bushes were disasters. Clinton wasn't a disaster. The economy did great. We ran a budget surplus. There were no wars. That's why Hillary is a serious contender for the Presidency, precisely BECAUSE the Clinton years were very good for most Americans. Republicans won't admit that, but the other 70% of the country remembers the Clinton years, economically, the way they remembered the Reagan years, and without the Cold War fear too. Today, the problem the Democrats have is that they are dishonest with themselves and pretend that a really crappy economy is a good one because they manipulate the economy. Back in Clinton's day, and since, Republicans have the same problem: they're dishonest with themselves and pretend that a really good economy was a crappy one because they weren't in charge. That dog didn't hunt then - Clinton's impeachment turned into a fiasco for Republicans because he remained popular, BECAUSE the economy was doing great under him and everybody knew it - and so in the lame duck election, when the President's party always loses seats, Clinton bucked a century old trend and the Democrats GAINED seats - precisely because the country was doing it well and everybody except Republicans lost in their hatred knew it. Clinton and Reagan were the two most effective Presidents (in a positive sense) since JFK and Eisenhower.
Clinton was successful because the Republicans made him successful. Clinton promised to "end welfare as we know it" but vetoed two welfare reform bills. Finally, the Republicans pushed one through. And Clinton took credit for it. The Republicans vetoed HillaryCare. Imagine that disaster. And the Republicans balanced the budget, not Clinton. Remember Clinton's budget proposal? $200 billion deficits every year as far as the eye can see.
But how is it a problem for them? The mainstream news media (aka the DNC website) parrots their "economy's booming" talking points. So the low info voters ane none the wiser. And - any problems that do occur - are blamed on the "Elmer Fudd" republicans. It's a win-win for them (and a lose-lose for sane, taxpaying americans)
It's a problem for them because enough people have been hurt that they vote against the party regardless of the news. The 2014 Republican victory is an example of that.
It's a problem for them because enough people have been hurt that they vote against the party regardless of the news. The "low info" voters I'm referencing have been programmed to be indifferent to - or even to despise - the republican party. See Jon Stewart. See Hollywood. See academia. See (fill in the blank) So even if they do admit to being hurt, they won't vote republican. They'll stay home - or they'll vote for an even more extreme leftist. The 2014 Republican victory is an example of that. The non-presidential year elections are turning out to be "base" elections. In 2010 and 2014, the democrap base was demoralized. The repubic base wasn't. But the Turtle and the crier (by capitulating to Emperor Zero before Congress was even seated) have likely succeeded to demoralize even the repubic base. So it should be clear sailing for whatever statist the dems decide to run in '16 Even if it's not Hil-liar-y
With all due respect to Clintonomics, the debt has increased year-to-year since Eisenhower. Only by not including stuff that was moved off-budget can Clinton claim a balanced budget. That said, he reduced and nearly eliminated the deficit and did spectacularly well compared to Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, and Obama. http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm
Clinton is fortunate that he came between two Bush's. This makes him shine, like a dime on a goat's a$$! If you were an unborn baby, or a religious minority Branch Davidian, etc., your chances weren't so good during the Bubba Clinton years. Clinton is a Keynesian, like the rest of them, he kept the Federal Reserve Bank ponzi scheme going. Or even Marco Rubio: he spent most of his time at CPAC belting out the National Anthem while a star-spangled eagle flew him around the ballroom, but American exceptionalism theatrics aside, he unquestionably has experience with foreign policy issues.
#2. To: hondo68 (#0)
Maybe it’s time to elect a senator rather than a governor
#3. To: hondo68 (#0)
#4. To: redleghunter (#3)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#5. To: hondo68 (#4)
#6. To: hondo68 (#4)
Clinton and Bush were governors, and look at what disasters they turned out to be!
#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)
#8. To: Vicomte13 (#6)
Today, the problem the Democrats have is that they are dishonest with themselves and pretend that a really crappy economy is a good one because they manipulate the economy.
#9. To: Rufus T Firefly (#8)
But how is it a problem for them?
#10. To: Vicomte13 (#9)
#11. To: Vicomte13, Hondo68 (#6)
Both Bushes were disasters. Clinton wasn't a disaster. The economy did great. We ran a budget surplus.
09/30/2014 17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
09/30/1999 5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.38
09/30/1992 4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 * 1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 * 1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 * 1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 * 1,142,034,000,000.00
09/30/1981 * 997,855,000,000.00
09/30/1980 * 907,701,000,000.00
09/30/1979 * 826,519,000,000.00
09/30/1978 * 771,544,000,000.00
09/30/1977 * 698,840,000,000.00
06/30/1976 * 620,433,000,000.00
06/30/1975 * 533,189,000,000.00
06/30/1974 475,059,815,731.55
06/30/1973 458,141,605,312.09
06/30/1972 427,260,460,940.50
06/30/1971 398,129,744,455.54
06/30/1970 370,918,706,949.93
#12. To: Vicomte13 (#6)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#13. To: nolu chan (#11)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
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