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Title: Black Privilege: Students Get SAT Bonus Points for Being Black or Hispanic – Asians Are Penalized
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201 ... hispanic-asians-are-penalized/
Published: Feb 28, 2015
Author: Jim Hoft
Post Date: 2015-02-28 04:55:57 by out damned spot
Keywords: students, black privilege, SAT
Views: 12185
Comments: 80

A report in the LA Times revealed that blacks and Hispanics get bonus SAT points at elite universities based on their race. Asian students however are penalized 50 points due to their race.

The LA Times reported, via DownTrend:

Lee’s next slide shows three columns of numbers from a Princeton University study that tried to measure how race and ethnicity affect admissions by using SAT scores as a benchmark. It uses the term “bonus” to describe how many extra SAT points an applicant’s race is worth. She points to the first column.

African Americans received a “bonus” of 230 points, Lee says.

She points to the second column.

“Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.”

The last column draws gasps.

Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points — in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.

“Do Asians need higher test scores? Is it harder for Asians to get into college? The answer is yes,” Lee says.

“Zenme keyi,” one mother hisses in Chinese. How can this be possible?

Downtrend also noted that college athletes also receive bonus points during the application process.

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#29. To: out damned spot, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#0)

African Americans received a “bonus” of 230 points, Lee says.

She points to the second column.

“Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.”

The last column draws gasps.

Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points — in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.

Anybody else notice how it always seems like the people that work the hardest end up being the luckiest and most successful?

I think it must be some sort of conspiracy!

No juz-tize,no peas!

No juz-tize,no peas!

No juz-tize,no peas!

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-28   12:50:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#29)

Anybody else notice how it always seems like the people that work the hardest end up being the luckiest and most successful?

I have never observed that to be true.

The people I know who work the hardest are the Hispanic folks who cut the lawns and clean the buildings at night where I work. They have two or three jobs and work like slaves. I do not see them getting much reward.

By contrast, I see people who think they work very hard, but who do not - not relative to the way those service people do - earning in excess of a million a year each.

So no, I've never noticed the phenomenon you've described. I've noticed something altogether different.

Same was true in the Navy. I observed that the people who worked the hardest were the ones that had the shittiest and most menial jobs, and they were paid the least. The officers were paid the most and did not work nearly as hard as many of the enlisted.

It has been my general observation that the people who have the most have overwhelmingly been the sons and daughters, or grandchildren, of people who already had quite a lot. They got good educations, and therefore scored well on standardized tests, went to the right schools, and got high paying jobs. At those jobs, they work like other people in offices do. They don't work as hard as service people. But they get paid a lot more.

So, what I notice is that people who are the highest and the most successful and luckiest tend to have had their luck start with birth, as economic status at birth seems to be, in my experience, the greatest single indicator of economic status throughout life.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-02-28   23:09:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Vicomte13 (#46)

I have never observed that to be true.

Then you don't understand what you see.

The people I know who work the hardest are the Hispanic folks who cut the lawns and clean the buildings at night where I work. They have two or three jobs and work like slaves. I do not see them getting much reward.

Give me a freaking break! Are you really so confused that you think manual laborers are the only people that work hard?

More of your Catholic communist class consciousness at work?

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-01   5:32:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: sneakypete (#52)

Give me a freaking break! Are you really so confused that you think manual laborers are the only people that work hard?

Manual laborers work much harder than office workers, yes. That is objectively true.

Office workers come in, sit down, read and write, then they go home. They are paid well for this. Their bodies don't hurt at the end of the day unless they abuse them.

Manual laborers are physically tired at the end of the day, often exhausted. They put in many more hours too, in order to earn the basics of living.

So yes, manual laborers do work harder, a lot harder, than office workers. They work longer, and their jobs take more out of them, and they are paid less. That is objective physical reality that has nothing to do with Catholicism.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-01   6:25:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Vicomte13 (#54)

Manual laborers work much harder than office workers, yes.

You must have lived a sheltered life if you believe that manual laborers are the only ones that work hard.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-01   6:32:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#56)

You must have lived a sheltered life if you believe that manual laborers are the only ones that work hard

You must be willfully blind if you think that manual labor, in multiple jobs at minimum wage, or picking beans, is not harder work than any office work anywhere.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-01   8:14:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Vicomte13 (#57)

You must be willfully blind if you think that manual labor, in multiple jobs at minimum wage, or picking beans, is not harder work than any office work anywhere.

I grew up doing manual labor. One of my first jobs was digging septic tank and drain field ditches with a shovel for 50 cents a hour during summer break from school. I was working as a deck hand on a shrimp boat when I was 13.

I lived in two different houses that didn't even have inside toilets by the time I was 12,and we still didn't have hot running water to take baths until I was 17.

I enlisted in the US Army for Airborne Infantry on my 17th birthday.

I have also had white collar office jobs as well as factory jobs and skilled jobs like gunsmith,auto and motorcycle mechanic,body and fender repairman,gunsmith, and machinist.

I even briefly worked as a cryptographer in an air-conditioned office when I first got to VN because I was on physical profile and unable to wear web gear. I hated it so bad I went back to the infantry the same day my profile ended.

Don't try to preach to me about how hard manual labor is,or how poor people are "stuck with being poor for life". Some are due to lack of imagination,some are due to laziness,and some are because they just lack the mental ability to learn anything useful. Many,many others have evolved from their birth station to become middle-class,upper middle-class,and even very wealthy.

Nor do I want to hear any nonsense about the alleged "nobility of de 'po". Save that crap for your cult meetings. I have been around the poor most of my life,and have more than a passing knowledge of the wealthy,and neither is more moral than the other.

Do you have any actual life experience living outside of a cult at all? Do you seriously believe white collar people not connected to some religion don't work hard to become successful?

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-01   11:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: sneakypete (#59)

Don't preach to me about how hard manual labor is.

Nor do I want to hear any nonsense about the alleged "nobility of de 'po".

Do you have any actual life experience living outside of a cult at all?

I don't need to: you already know how hard it is.

I have never made any reference to the "nobility of the poor". You did. Nobility is a birthright. The poor aren't nobility. If they were, they wouldn't be poor.

Yes. I am in my sixth decade of life experience living outside of a cult. I've never been in a cult, and am not planning on joining one.

I have 49 years of lucid memory of life experiences piled on life experiences. During all of that time, I have lived and experienced things just as you have. You did one thing with that time. I did different things with it. But during the time that you and I have shared the world together, we both have the identical amount of life experience. I probably remember mine better, in finer detail, than you remember yours, because I have a gift.

I'm sure that what you meant to be getting at was that you worked so you know all about working. During that time I, too, was living and working and experiencing things.

You and I have many parallel experiences. You grew up poor. I did not grow up economically poor, but in a very unfortunate circumstances otherwise. You were drafted and served in Vietnam. I too went into the military, for many years, and served aboard ship in the Middle East, and in the air over Iraq, Kuwait, Somalia and other places. At some point the time in the military ended for both of us, and you and I both went and joined the working world and have lived from our paychecks ever since. You and I have done different things since 1965 (when my memory tape begins), but your experiences don't count double or triple relative to mine.

You've simply come to a different view regarding the nature of things than I have.

On another thread, you opined to TooConservative that I'm a "Northeastern Catholic, brainwashed from birth". That is why you think I have the views I do.

I am in fact a Midwesterner by birth and breeding, went to school in the South, served on the West coast, worked in Paris, and have been in the Northeast permanently only since 1999. I didn't start attending Church or caring about religion until I saw and spoke with the angels and the demons. That began in July, 2001. So no, I'm not a Northeastern Catholic who has been brainwashed from birth. I'm a Midwestern pagan whose face was grabbed by God and who, therefore, knows that God is, and who has reoriented his view of the entire world based on that reality.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-03-01   12:42:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#66. To: Vicomte13 (#62)

You were drafted and served in Vietnam.

I cleverly beat the draft by enlisting for Airborne Infantry on my 17th birthday. I have never even had a draft card.

I also volunteered to go to VN,and volunteered for recon duty with SOG. I even extended my tour for another 6 months to keep running recon.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-02 00:29:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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