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Title: Tattoos, prescription drugs, obesity hinder Army Reserves recruitment effort [71% disqualified]
Source: Washington Times
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news ... es-tattoos-obesity-prescripti/
Published: Feb 26, 2015
Author: Maggie Ybarra
Post Date: 2015-02-26 09:33:58 by Tooconservative
Keywords: military
Views: 6916
Comments: 43

Tattoos, prescription drugs, obesity hinder Army Reserves recruitment effort
Physical, moral or cognitive shortcomings eliminate 71 percent of potential military recruits

The majority of potential Army reservists are either hooked on prescription drugs, have too many tattoos, are overweight or have mental conditions that prohibit them from joining the military, recruiters say.

Seven out of 10 applicants fail to meet Army Reserve standards on “mental, moral and physical reasons,” said Capt. Eric Connor, U.S. Army Reserve Command spokesman.

The problem affects the broader service as well. According to Army Recruiting Command statistics compiled last year, 71 percent of young people wanting to join the military would fail to pass service tests because of their physical, moral or cognitive shortcomings.

These problems are worsening even as the Defense Department wants in the coming year to add thousands of members to every branch of the service, both the active forces and the reserves, a plan that will place additional pressure on recruiters who must operate with smaller budgets.

Military budget documents show that the Air Force, Army, Navy and Marine Corps are being asked in fiscal year 2016 to recruit 2,000 to 9,500 more active-duty The Army Reserve’s goal in fiscal year 2014 was to recruit 33,261 personnel, but military planners have considerably upped that goal in fiscal year 2016. By the end of next year, recruiters must be able to persuade 39,860 men and women to join the reserves.

Lt. Gen. David Barno, a distinguished practitioner in residence at American University’s School of International Service, said recruiters will face a more challenging environment in the coming years because of the improving U.S. economy — in a tough market, younger men are more attracted to the military as a last-resort job — and because the end of major military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq lessen the chances for glory and honor.

“The [recruiting] numbers I have seen are not that bad,” said Michael O’Hanlon, a national security and defense policy analyst at the Brookings Institution. Once the numbers start sinking, however, considerations like a preconditioning camp will have to be made, he said.

Air Force officials concerned about the shrinking defense budget are reorganizing recruitment staff to require fewer resources to do their jobs, said Capt. Brooke Brzozowske, a spokeswoman for the service. Rather than having multiple one- or two-member recruiting offices, the Air Force plans to consolidate into fewer centralized locations, she said.

“This transformation will strengthen our recruiting force while simultaneously requiring fewer resources to carry out the mission,” Capt. Brzozowske said, adding that the effort is expected to save $11.8 million a year.

The Air Force last month said it has been searching desperately for more pilots to operate the drones that the Obama administration uses to track and kill terrorists in the Middle East. Its overall goals are increasing from 24,018 recruits in 2014 to 26,836 in fiscal year 2016.

Along with the Army, the Marines will be under pressure to up recruiting efforts. Documents show they will need to add 6,258 members — more than the Air Force or Navy — next year.

Marines have been playing an increasingly important role in carrying out President Obama’s military policies, including special missions in Iraq and Afghanistan and evacuations of U.S. embassy staff from Libya, Syria and Yemen.

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0) (Edited)

Generation XBox = FAIL

Rainbowfied, Metrosexualized, Medicated, Dysfunctional PUSSIES.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-26   9:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TooConservative (#0)

"The Air Force last month said it has been searching desperately for more pilots to operate the drones that the Obama administration uses to track and kill terrorists in the Middle East. Its overall goals are increasing from 24,018 recruits in 2014 to 26,836 in fiscal year 2016. "

"Ellen DeGeneres invited to bring show to Air Force Academy"

www.denverpost.com/news/c...ng-show-air-force-academy

Uhuh.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-26   10:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#0)

"Too many tattoos" is a bullshit condition, related to the prejudices of the people making the judgments, and unrelated to physical fitness or anything having to do with combat.

Hold the line on crazy. No need for that.

Extend service terms to get rid of obesity before training.

But force the military to strike the objection to "too many tattoos". It's not the Army's goddamned business how many tattoos a man has before he becomes a soldier. Lots of people don't like that? Tough shit. Make them accept it. Making them take gays was much worse than making them the drop the prejudice against tattoos.

I'm deaf to the "unqualified" complaint if they're rejecting qualified men because THEY have decided that "too many tattoos" makes a man unqualified to fight. It's an absurd middle class standard that the leadership of the Army has no right to have, and they need to be made well aware of their lack of right and lack of power to discriminate on such arbitrary terms by forcing them, against their will, to accept what they don't want, and then destroying the career of any Officer or NCO who abuses recruits for having tattoos.

This is a prejudice that needs to be beaten out of the military leadership by force.

And no, it will not wreck the military by ignoring their bitching about tattoos and forcing them to accept it and punishing them for complaining about it.

They're wrong, and they need to be given the stiff arm on it, not listened to when they bitch.

If tattooed guys want to join, fill up the ranks with them. If you don't like the content of the tattoos? Guess what, I don't like the idea of gays out there. Tough shit to me, tough shit to you. Don't like it? Then don't expect to get a retirement check in your forties after twenty years as a paid mercenary.

No sympathy.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-02-26   10:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: VxH (#2)

"The Air Force last month said it has been searching desperately for more pilots to operate the drones that the Obama administration uses to track and kill terrorists in the Middle East..."

You'd think they could find some little Xbox psychos who would just love to get in on the action. But not so much apparently.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   10:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter (#3)

"Too many tattoos" is a bullshit condition, related to the prejudices of the people making the judgments, and unrelated to physical fitness or anything having to do with combat.

Really? So you'd be fine if your priest, your legislator, your co-workers, your accountant all had visible tattoos? And, of course, judging tattoos for content is a bit like asking the Supreme Court to define obscenity.

Following this, you couldn't exclude Charles Manson from enlisting with a swastika tattoo on his forehead. Or do anything about tattoos deemed hateful or discriminatory. Or kick out a recruit who had a tattoo on the side of his hand that said something like:

First we shoot the generals...

Yeah, right where the officers see it every time the recruit salutes them.

That should really raise unit cohesiveness and morale.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   10:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13, redleghunter (#5) (Edited)

I hate tats these days. Pretty much everyone who serves me coffee or food these days looks like a circus freak and I keep having this fear I will get hepatitis from the beareded tattooed and pierced freaks preping my food.

Pericles  posted on  2015-02-26   10:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pericles (#6)

I keep having this fear I will get hepatitis from

As well you should. Not to mention a lot of other diseases and illness.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   11:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#5)

"Too many tattoos" is a bullshit condition, related to the prejudices of the people making the judgments, and unrelated to physical fitness or anything having to do with combat. Really? So you'd be fine if your priest, your legislator, your co-workers, your accountant all had visible tattoos? And, of course, judging tattoos for content is a bit like asking the Supreme Court to define obscenity.

Following this, you couldn't exclude Charles Manson from enlisting with a swastika tattoo on his forehead. Or do anything about tattoos deemed hateful or discriminatory. Or kick out a recruit who had a tattoo on the side of his hand that said something like:

First we shoot the generals...

Yeah, right where the officers see it every time the recruit salutes them.

That should really raise unit cohesiveness and morale.

Tattoos, from my knowledge have always been allowed in all services. Some units as part of cohesion do unit tats.

But for a long time such was covered by the duty uniform and physical fitness uniform. It was not until about 1996 or so we started to see tattoos which were on the neck (visible in duty uniform) and calves/lower arms (visible in PT uniforms). Back then the caveat was you could come in but at your own expense at some time forward before re-enlisting the visible tattoos must be removed. Of course this was all relaxed when we entered the post 9/11 wars.

Now with the shrinking military due to an official draw down, the services can be more selective in recruits and the old, basically the rules that never changed but were overlooked, are back.

The military can discriminate in some cases who they recruit and sign enlisted contracts with. "Good order and discipline" are always considered. For the Army for example, wearing your duty uniform and still seeing scorpion tattoos on a neck or hands is not exhibiting a military appearance. Nor is seeing someone busting out of their dress uniform clearly not in physical form to perform their duties.

As TC points out about the hand tattoo. We had one soldier in the 90s who had "FTW" on his right fingers. I'll y'all figure out what the letters mean. The soldier put the tattoos on his fingers while in the Army in his barracks. He was barred from re-enlistment and discharged.

Also, the military looks at the types of tattoos as well. In the late 90s as a battery commander we were instructed to look for gang tattoos. My beef about that was why didn't the recruiters do that before signing these people up.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   11:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pericles, TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#6)

I hate tats these days. Pretty much everyone who serves me coffee or food these days looks like a circus freak and I keep having this fear I will get hepatitis from the beareded tattooed and pierced freaks preping my food.

Yes indeed the pierced noses, lips and a few other places visible.

Something about food handling and piercing is not right with me.

Went through a drive thru not long ago and the dude's nose had so many rings in it that boogers were hanging in his nose. Drove away never to go back.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   11:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter (#8)

Some units as part of cohesion do unit tats.

A bad practice. What about those who don't want tattoos? Are they second-rate or suspect because they don't want to wear some dumb "herd brand"?

My beef about that was why didn't the recruiters do that before signing these people up.

Because they were evaluated purely on recruiting numbers, nothing else.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   11:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative (#10)

A bad practice. What about those who don't want tattoos? Are they second-rate or suspect because they don't want to wear some dumb "herd brand"?

My beef about that was why didn't the recruiters do that before signing these people up. Because they were evaluated purely on recruiting numbers, nothing else.

Of course such is voluntary but with some peer pressure involved I'm sure. I'm tattoo free:) My dad was in the Navy at the tail end of WWII and again in Korea. No tats. His buddy in the Navy the same time looked like Popeye with tats.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   11:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: redleghunter (#11)

I'm tattoo free:)

Good. Then I don't have to Bozo you.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   11:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter (#8)

We had one soldier in the 90s who had "FTW" on his right fingers. I'll [let] y'all figure out what the letters mean.

Do you mean "FTA"?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-26   11:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#0)

"The majority of potential Army reservists are either hooked on prescription drugs, have too many tattoos, are overweight or have mental conditions that prohibit them from joining the military, recruiters say."

No problem. Put them all in the same unit and tell them they're going into combat as a unit.

Now, if they don't want to fight alongside overweight, crazy drug addicts, then they can transfer to other units if and when they shape up.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-02-26   11:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter, TooConservative (#3)

www.army.mil/article/133794/

Excerpt (Sep 2014):

TATTOOS

As part of efforts to maintain the professional appearance of the force, the Army dialed back the number, size and placement of tattoos in the March regulation.

Previously authorized tattoos were "grandfathered" in, but Soldiers hoping to become an officer had to get an exception to the policy.

The updated regulation takes into account that previously authorized tattoos should not prevent a Soldier from becoming an officer, but that candidates are to be evaluated based on the whole Soldier concept, or all characteristics of a Soldier.

The rest of the regulation from March remains in place, including the restriction on sleeve tattoos and allowing no more than four tattoos below the elbows or knees. Tattoos below the knees or elbows must be smaller than the size of the Soldier's palm with fingers extended. Permanent ink or branding on the face, neck, and hands, as well as tattoos that can be deemed extremist, indecent, sexist or racist in nature remain banned.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-26   11:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: VxH (#1)

That's OK, illegals and Muslims "fleeing" their countries will fight for "Truth, JUST-US and the American way.

On another note, why aren't Christians in danger of being annihilated by the bearded bastards, being given refugee status in this country? They are being discriminated against, beaten, raped, burned alive or CRUCIFIED. Of course we know the answer, the goal is to "diversify". Michael Savage, a man of many talents and problems says it best. DIVERSITY IS PERVERSITY.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-02-26   11:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative, ditto heads (#0)

either hooked on prescription drugs, have too many tattoos, are overweight or have mental conditions

Rush Limbaugh has at least 3 out of 4, of those traits. Too many ditto head applicants!


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Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-26   12:38:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hondo68 (#17)

Hard to believe that pill popper still has a following of dildo heads.

He wouldn't pass the hearing test either.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-26   12:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#17)

Rush Limbaugh

...is just going off-topic for the thread.

But it sounds like old fat Limbaugh is still less disqualified than the majority of kids in their 20s.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   12:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TooConservative (#0)

Tattoos, prescription drugs, obesity hinder Army Reserves recruitment effort.

No problem...

The Army recruitment numbers will merely compensate by enlisting non-tattooed, un-medicated well-proportioned 5-2 120 chicks, dykes, pajama boys, eunuchs, pre-ops, and Muslims.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-26   13:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

I'm deaf to the "unqualified" complaint if they're rejecting qualified men because THEY have decided that "too many tattoos" makes a man unqualified to fight.

Well, I dunno about YOU, but those tats that are crawling up the neck and cover more than 20% of the body indicate an unhealthy obsession and serious measure of a lack of discipline and/or psychosis.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-26   13:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: redleghunter, Pericles, TooConservative, Vicomte13, CZ82 (#9)

Yes indeed the pierced noses, lips and a few other places visible.

Something about food handling and piercing is not right with me.

Went through a drive thru not long ago and the dude's nose had so many rings in it that boogers were hanging in his nose.

Bo appetite! (oh, wait...:-(

Went to a Taco Bell years ago. Dude was swathed with tats from hands to neck to face; piercings festooned his face like a Christmas tree. As if that wasn't enough to ruin our appetite, as he walked out by the customer line with trays, he cut loose a mid-range decibel FART.

Uh...we walked out immediately...

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-26   13:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TooConservative (#12)

No piercing either!

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   13:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Fred Mertz (#13)

No the "world." He had issues.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   13:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter (#23)

No piercing either!

It kinda goes without saying, eh?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   14:21:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Pericles (#6)

I hate tats these days.

I hate them too. But the Army is public, and having tattoos is not a justifiable basis to reject people for service.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-02-26   14:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#21)

Well, I dunno about YOU, but those tats that are crawling up the neck and cover more than 20% of the body indicate an unhealthy obsession and serious measure of a lack of discipline and/or psychosis.

I agree. But homosexual sodomy indicates a greater psychosis, and that's a right now.

If the Army is turning away tattoos, they don't need a draft.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-02-26   14:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

As part of efforts to maintain the professional appearance of the force, the Army dialed back the number, size and placement of tattoos in the March regulation.

The decision as to what constitutes a "professional appearance" is subjective.

The Army needs bodies. Men with tattoos present themselves. The Army has to change its idea about "professional appearance" to accept them.

It's nice that people have opinions about these things.

I think that tattooed freaks look like killers, and killers belong in the Army. In Afghanistan.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-02-26   14:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Vicomte13 (#27)

I agree. But homosexual sodomy indicates a greater psychosis, and that's a right now.

If the Army is turning away tattoos, they don't need a draft.

It's obvious the Army (and military hijackers) have an agenda. Yup, if we're measuring psychoses, a 'broken-toy' homosexual Armed Force is by far the greater sabotage of sane recruitment, discipline, focus, loyalty, and common sense.

This whole subversive agenda is about destroying the morale, traditions, and respect of and for the US military. Draft or no draft.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-26   15:02:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Vicomte13 (#28)

A year ago or so I worked in an Army headquarters as a contractor.

I remember reading a memo from the troop commander regarding tattoos. For whatever reason, each soldier with a tattoo had to submit paperwork and photographs detailing their 'ink'.

Six years ago a civilian friend died and his head was crushed in from an ATV accident. When his wife went to ID him, they wouldn't show her his face. She identified him by the tattoo on his left arm.

So, in a way, tattoos might be as good as fingerprints.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-26   15:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator, redleghunter (#22)

When I was still in the military tats were not allowed to be visible when you were in uniform. So that meant if you had tats on your arms and it was 110 degrees outside you had to keep your sleeves rolled down to ensure they weren't visible.

You could have a pierced ear but weren't allowed to wear your "Gayrings" while on duty.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-26   16:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: CZ82 (#31)

When I was still in the military tats were not allowed to be visible when you were in uniform. So that meant if you had tats on your arms and it was 110 degrees outside you had to keep your sleeves rolled down to ensure they weren't visible.

You could have a pierced ear but weren't allowed to wear your "Gayrings" while on duty.

You see -- THAT was a standard without exception. It maintained that sense of discipline that's crucial.

LOL @ "gayrings"

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-26   16:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: CZ82 (#31)

When I was still in the military tats were not allowed to be visible when you were in uniform. So that meant if you had tats on your arms and it was 110 degrees outside you had to keep your sleeves rolled down to ensure they weren't visible.

About 2000 we went to sleeves down year round. Maybe because of tats but mainly I think because the rolled up sleeves trapped circulation of air on hot days.

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out." (1 Timothy 6:6-7)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   17:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TooConservative (#0)

I saw a US Navy recruiter over at the Court Clerk's office the other day. He was hardly the exemplar of standard dress and appearance. He looked like an MS13 member more then a Navy Sailor. The Petty Officer was covered in tattoos! He looked like shit and i bet his prospective recruits look like shit too.

What they recruit now are a bunch of asshole babies.

TEA Party Reveler  posted on  2015-02-26   17:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TEA Party Reveler (#34)

He looked like an MS13 member more then a Navy Sailor. The Petty Officer was covered in tattoos! He looked like shit and i bet his prospective recruits look like shit too.

Well, I think the Navy was always much more tolerant of tattoos but that is surprising to me. The only recruiters I ever saw were impeccable models of military decorum.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-27   1:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Fred Mertz (#18)

" Hard to believe that pill popper still has a following of dildo heads. "

I don'tknow Fred. Where I am, the only AM station I can pick up carries Rush. and before him, Glen Beck.

Glen Beck to me is like someone running their fingernails across a blackboard. Beck and his crew of cackling hens really make me ill. I am grateful when Rush comes on.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-27   8:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Stoner (#36)

Glenn Beck to me is like someone running their fingernails across a blackboard.

A year ago a friend and his wife came up from Tennessee to attend some sort of conservative gathering in Louisville. Glenn Beck was the headliner. For my friend's sake I attended and held my nose and put on a happy face.

I admit, that about 16 years earlier I was a Pubbie enthusiast like the vast majority of the crowd. Now, I'm older and wiser and don't give a crap about that stuff.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-02-27   9:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: jeremiad (#16)

the goal is to "diversify"

Divide and conqueer.

VxH  posted on  2015-02-27   20:30:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Stoner (#36)

I am grateful when Rush comes on.

Me too!

VxH  posted on  2015-02-27   20:35:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: VxH (#39)

" I am grateful when Rush comes on.

Me too! "

So, your not a Glenn Beck fan either?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-02-28   8:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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