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Title: Cops Shutdown High School Kids Trying to Earn Money by Shoveling Snow
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co ... ids-earn-money-shoveling-snow/
Published: Jan 28, 2015
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2015-01-29 03:10:32 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 23439
Comments: 77

In America, “Land of Opportunity,” you are free to pursue your dreams of financial freedom, provided you have filled out the proper form and been extorted by the proper bureaucrat.

Two teenage boys from Bridgewater, New Jersey are getting a hard does of this statism after their pursuance of financial freedom landed them in hot water with the fuzz.

Earlier this week, Matt Molinari and his friend Eric Schnepf, both seniors in High School, were going door-to-door advertising their snow shoveling services in advance of the storm. School was out, and instead of sitting inside and playing XBOX, these two young entrepreneurs felt the fire of enterprise and decided to turn their down time into an actual dime.

However, Molinari and Schnepf apparently didn’t realize that in order to make a dime you have to pay a quarter — to the state. When the two boys were out trying to rustle up some business during what they saw as an opportunity, along came the uniformed agents of the state, to put this unapproved business venture out to pasture.

“We weren’t looking to break the law. We just didn’t know the law,” Molinari tells Jim Smith on his WCBS 880 radio show.

The cops then gave these two kids a lesson in statist economics, which consequently ended their high school snow shoveling business.

“They need a permit, unpermitted solicitation is not allowed,” Molinari said, recalling what the police told them.

In this particular county, anyone selling goods and services door to door must apply for a license that can cost as much as $450 for permission that is valid for only 180 days; after all freedom ain’t free.

“We don’t make the laws but we have to uphold them,” Police Chief Michael Jannone said Tuesday, in true statist fashion, after reading some of the online comments about the incident.

The teens’ story quickly started gaining traction in a local Bound Brook Facebook group after a resident witnessed police shaking down Schnepf after going to his door.

“Are you kidding me? Our generation does nothing but complain about his generation being lazy and not working for their money,” he wrote on Bound Brook NJ Events‘ page. “Here’s a couple kids who take the time to print up flyers, walk door to door in the snow, and then shovel snow for some spending money. And someone calls the cops and they’re told to stop?”

The two teens have, rightfully so, been met with loads of support.

After being questioned by reporters and seeing the backlash against them, the Bound Brook police chief did some back peddling and told MyCentralJersey.com they are not cracking down on kids shoveling, but rather that it was a state of emergency and should not have been out.

Unfortunately the young entrepreneurial spirit is often stomped into a sad puddle in this land of the ostensibly free. Similar bans around the country have nixed the learning stages of free enterprise by putting an end to practices such as lemonade stands and selling Girl Scouts cookies.

In October of 2013, The Free Thought Project reported on the incident in Washington DC in which dozens of cops were dispatched, not because there were armed gunman threatening to kill hostages, or because of a bomb threat, or riot, but because a group of rowdy kids would dare sell lemonade, without a permit.

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#2. To: Deckard (#0)

“We don’t make the laws but we have to uphold them,” Police Chief Michael Jannone said Tuesday, in true statist fashion, after reading some of the online comments about the incident.

High-density areas like NJ have these laws to stop bums from harassing homeowners. Otherwise, they can wander around pestering people any time they want.

It isn't a constitutional right to make a sales pitch for your services on someone's front step.

It brings to mind FNC's constant bitching over lemonade stands. They have at least one major snit every year over kids selling lemonade, often in high-traffic venues where all other food vendors have to be licensed and inspected.

The place to change laws is in your legislature, not by whining about the cops enforcing the laws. But there is little support for changing these laws because they were passed for a reason.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-29   5:22:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative, Deckard (#2)

High-density areas like NJ have these laws to stop bums from harassing homeowners. Otherwise, they can wander around pestering people any time they want.

It isn't a constitutional right to make a sales pitch for your services on someone's front step.

Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The State constitutions are the same regarding freedom of speech. A law requiring them to register in order to talk to people is clearly unconstitutional. Because NO law means NO law.

The person could put up a no soliciting sign or no trespassing sign. Then they wouldn't be "bothered". The government licensing this is plainly a violation of the first amendment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-29   6:54:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#19)

A law requiring them to register in order to talk to people is clearly unconstitutional.

In public, yes.

Not in their homes and private property.

Protected speech ends at your property line.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-29   12:06:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TooConservative (#44)

Protected speech ends at your property line.

The person can put up a sign. But it isn't against the law to walk across the lawn to ask a question.

Once the person makes a sales pitch or starts talking. The homeowner can tell them to leave.

It isn't default you can't talk to someone because they live on private property.

Remember there can constitutionally be "no law".

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-29   13:53:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#46)

You have an elevated notion about the absolutism of free speech.

It isn't as absolute as you like to think it is. The law often tolerates regulation at the state or local level when it would forbid the same activity by the feds.

States and local government have a certain leeway in regulating speech. You may recall how the pols in both parties have taken to "designated protest areas" for major events like political conventions. So the protesters end up a mile from the convention inside a chain link fence, protesting all they want. And it is tolerated by the courts.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-29   14:26:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: TooConservative (#48)

You have an elevated notion about the absolutism of free speech.

It isn't as absolute as you like to think it is

No LAW. What does that mean. I'm sure some courts watered down the meeting.

But think about what your view means.

Under your view all girl scouts should be arrested if they come and try to sell you cookies.

You like the Boy Scouts. Well they better not come a=k you to buy some popcorn because that is unlawful according to you. Jail to the boy scouts.

Those fund raisers at your kids or great grand kids school. Arrest them all they come ask if you want to buy some candy or snacks.

Those pesky charities that come to your home looking for a contribution to help the poor. Chains and shackles for them. Or handcuffs until they have their asses thrown in jail.

No my friend. No means no.

I think you would agree with me that if someone went to your house and wanted to sell you some crackers. Then you said no you're not interested. Then they should leave and would lawfully be required to leave.

You have to tell them first with no trespassing or no soliciting. The government can't speak for everyone and just make it illegal.

I don't see what is so complicated or unreasonable about what I said. I don't see anything unlawful or immoral about it either.

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