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Title: For Years I Pleaded With God ... To Make Me Straight --- So Why Did My Prayers Go Unanswered?
Source: christianpost.com/
URL Source: http://www.christianpost.com/news/f ... -prayers-go-unanswered-133098/
Published: Jan 26, 2015
Author: Matt Moore
Post Date: 2015-01-27 12:39:11 by BorisY
Keywords: gay dieversity evolution new a, gay dieversity evolution new a, gay dieversity evolution new a
Views: 18442
Comments: 64

For Years I Pleaded With God To Make Me Straight, So Why Did My Prayers Go Unanswered?

By Matt Moore

CP Guest Columnist

January 26, 2015

matt moore

I knew I was attracted to the same sex when I was seven — in some capacity, anyway. I don't think it's physiologically possible to truly feel sexual attraction at such a young age. But I knew there was a drawing in me toward the same gender – and drawing that was more than what some would say is "natural" or "normal."

As I grew up in a rural Louisiana town and teenage hormones began to surge throughout my body, my drawing toward the same gender intensified — sexually and emotionally. While I was definitely not engulfed in the life of a church during my adolescence, I was raised in close enough proximity to religious things – and religious people – that I knew the Bible referenced to homosexuality as an abominable thing.

The Bible referenced to me as an abominable thing. That was my understanding anyway. And not only did the Bible paint people like me in the light of all that is grotesque, but so did the people around me. Family, friends, football coaches. Everyone. To be gay was to be gross. To be gay was to be wicked. To be gay was to be scum.

So I prayed. Oh. How. I. Prayed.

"God, make me normal."

"God, make me straight."

"God, make me like everyone else."

But God didn't answer those prayers. Why?

I hear my experience repeated by others all the time. Just yesterday, actually. A Christian friend of mine was conversing with a guy who is living a homosexual lifestyle. He pleaded with her to believe that he had prayed for years for God to make him straight…. to no avail. She was speechless. She didn't know how to respond.

"Matt, why didn't God answer his prayer? I mean, he prayed God's will? Why was there no answer?"

I'm not God, so I can't know all the reasons why He wouldn't have answered this guy's prayers to be made attracted to women. But, I do know what He's revealed in the Bible and I do know what I now, as a believer in Jesus, believe to be true of my own "unanswered prayers" experience.

Firstly, when I grew up pleading with God to make me straight, I had no real interest in God Himself. I wasn't praying for God to do this because I loved Him or wanted to live my life for Him. I was actually pretty unconcerned about Him, to be honest. I wanted God to take away my same sex desires for my own benefit – so that I could fit in, be normal, be one of the guys, and even so that I could just have sex with girls like all of my friends were. < — So I obviously wasn't worried about being sexually moral. I just wanted to be sexually normal.

My desire to be made straight was all about me. I had no interest in being reconciled to God or having a relationship with Christ.

Which brings me to by second point. From what I see in the Bible, God is far more concerned with first fixing our hearts than he is with fixing other things in our lives. Same sex attraction included. Yes, it's true that God hates homosexuality. But more than that, He hates that our hearts are opposed to Him and that we long to live our lives separated from Him. God's foremost desire is that we would come to Him through Christ to receive new hearts that love and adore Him.

In fact, nothing can even begin to be done as far as the untangling of our sexualities until we receive new hearts that love and adore God. How do I know that? Because Romans 1 says that the whole reason homosexual desire even exists is due to our rejection of God's loving rule and authority over our lives.

Don't skip over this passage of Scripture I'm about to paste under here. It's vital that you read it.

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."- Romans 1:18-26.

Homosexual desire – and all other sinful desire — exists in the hearts of people because worship of God doesn't. In Adam, we corporately rejected the good rule of God over our lives. And in each of our hearts, we have all individually rejected the good rule of God over our lives. And what has been the result? God has given us over to ourselves. He gave us up to our sinful desire, and has allowed us to revel and further deteriorate in it.

So why didn't God answer my prayer to rid me of my homosexual desires? Because homosexual desires were not my main problem. They were a problem, for sure. But the root of my problem was that I didn't love God or worship Him, and my homosexual desires were just fruit of that, so to speak. God's desire was to fix the root of my issues.

And in 2010, He did just that. He opened my eyes to see all that Jesus Christ is for those who will believe. I finally really saw Jesus as the Son of God who took on flesh and who in humility and incredible graciousness laid His life down for mine. He offered up His life to pay for my guilt in order that I could draw near to God and be given me a new heart; a new heart that loves, adores and worships the one true and incredibly good God.

Am I now straight? Am I now normal? Am I now free from same sex desires and attracted solely to women?

No, no and no.

My heart was changed instantaneously when I trusted in Christ and began to follow Him, but my mind was not. I now have a heart that genuinely loves God and desires to worship Him, but at the same time, I'm still utterly messed up and damaged by sin. The Lord is working in me and renewing my mind day by day, shaping me more and more into the reflection of Him that I was created to be. But it's been a process. And it will continue to be a process until I receive a new, perfect and sinless body in the age to come. When that day comes, the fullness of what Jesus purchased for me will be given to me: full freedom from every sinful thing that restrains my enjoyment and worship of God.

But even now, in this messed up damaged flesh, I have experienced some change in my sexuality over the past four years. I can't deny that. And the shifting in my sexual desires is a direct result of my grace-given love for God. I've grown in my disgust of homosexual relations because I see what a twisting and perversion it is of the image of God. And I've grown in my desire for women (specifically, one woman.… I wrote about it here), and maybe even in my desire for marriage, because I see how a one man + one woman marital covenant so beautifully reflects the image of God.

My growing desire for women is the overflow of a growing desire to see God's glory manifested in my life. Plain and simple. I'm not saying that I'm definitely going to get married one day. I might not. I may be single and celibate for the remainder of my sojourning in this world. But either way I will be fine and I will be joyful because my main problem has been fixed. I might not be "straight" or "normal", but I have a new heart, I have Jesus, and I have the Father. And that's all I really need.

Matt Moore is a Christian blogger who was formerly engaged in a gay lifestyle. You can read more about him at www.moorematt.org.


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#1. To: BorisY (#0)

"God, make me normal."

I think you are so far removed from reality that even God won't help you Boris.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-27   12:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BorisY (#0)

Good post, Boris.

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-27   12:47:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#1)

reason is truth in the empire of liars.” - wRong Paul

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-01-27   12:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BorisY (#3)

You're so freaking brain damaged you can't read or spell.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-27   12:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#4) (Edited)

mr magoo cult

keep laughing ... the libertarian - kook - quack - age --- is over - ending !

missing the ... God - brain - soul - grown up - puberty - spiritual eye - reality ---- gene !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-01-27   13:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BorisY (#5)

keep babbling ---psycho/funny farm (escapee?)

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-27   13:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#6)

Post Date: 2015-01-13 by BorisY

Keywords: wailing gnashing teeth, wailing gnashing teeth, wailing gnashing teeth

#119. To: Destro (#118)

I really don't understand how liberals use trivia to operate a monstrous political reality eating machine !

Hopefully it will swallow them up 1st !

byeltsin posted on 2008-10-25

Divine intervention - deliverance - peace !

#1. To: All (#0)

dieversity = dialectical - dematerialism !

(( self correcting problem ))

When the end of time machine turns on -

the wheat separated from the chaff -

just being on the compost pile -

the dead feel nothing now - then -

the machine begins to shut down -

the compost comes back to life -

all fizziled out souls have a spark of eternity -

that get dematerialized - blown out -

they should think about that one !

countdown - the warning light is blinking !

byeltsin posted on 2015-01-11

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BorisY  posted on  2015-01-27   13:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BorisY (#0)

For Years I Pleaded With God To Make Me an Astronaut, So Why Did My Prayers Go Unanswered?

For Years I Pleaded With God To Make Me an NFL Football Player, So Why Did My Prayers Go Unanswered?

For Years I Pleaded With God To Make Me Rich and Famous, So Why Did My Prayers Go Unanswered?

More unanswered prayers.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-27   16:06:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BorisY (#3)

wRong Paul

!

"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-27   16:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BorisY (#0) (Edited)

Unanswered prayers?

Jessie Burr  posted on  2015-01-27   16:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BorisY (#0)

Matt Moore, Christian Blogger Caught On Grindr: I Was Looking To Meet Men, But Not For Sex

Posted: 05/01/2013 10:45 am EDT Updated: 05/02/2013 1:57 pm EDT

MATT MOORE GRINDR

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Matt Moore, the so-called "ex-gay" Christian blogger who was exposed for being on the gay-dating app Grindr in February, says in a new interview that he wasn’t looking for sex on Grindr: He was looking to meet men in New Orleans to take him to gay bars. Moore has since sold his computer and locked his phone so that he can’t “give in to temptation” again. (Listen to the full interview below)

“Basically I just wanted to see who was on it and who was around me,” Moore, a 24-year-old a blogger for the Christian Post who has called homosexuality sinful and an abomination, said on my SiriusXM radio program. “I can honestly say that I didn’t have any kind of sexual conversations with anyone. Anyone who sent me any kind of explicit photos or conversations, I blocked immediately. The first time I got on it, I wanted to go out and I wanted to go to the gay bars in New Orleans. So I was trying to meet someone on there to basically tag along with. That was the reason I was originally on it.”

But before Moore could meet anyone, he says, screenshots were posted on the web by blogger Zinnia Jones, soon labeling him across the blogosphere as the “ex- gay” on Grindr, a label he refutes. He said he came forward now, seeking out an interview two months later, to clarify that he does not believe that he is “ex- gay” and that he doesn’t believe reparative therapy makes people heterosexual if they are homosexual.

“I want to clarify some things,” he said. “I think the way the articles were written, they’re based on the assumption that when I became a Christian, I became straight and that I did not have homosexual feelings anymore and that my presence on Grindr was pointing out that I basically lied. I had never, ever said any of those things.”

Moore, who said he once was an “out” gay man and had boyfriends until he turned to evangelical Christianity in 2010, explained that he still is sexually attracted to men and is not sexually attracted to women -- that ‘it’s impossible to change yourself” -- but that he is trying to refrain from acting on his sexual desires because of his religious beliefs.

“I do believe it’s the truth, so, honestly, yes,” he said, when asked if he’s urging all gay people to follow his path. “I stopped going out to gay bars and stuff like that. Most of the relationships that I did have did cease. And I had not been on Grindr or any kind of gay social network until January of this year.”

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-27   16:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jessie Burr (#10)

Gatlin. You are only allowed one screen name.

Don't deny it. There is no doubt.

So Don't play dumb.

It wouldn't be difficult to lock you out completely.

Have a good day.

Moderator X  posted on  2015-01-27   17:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#12)

The Above.

Moderator X  posted on  2015-01-27   17:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jessie Burr (#10)

Deleted Moderator X

BorisY  posted on  2015-01-27   17:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Moderator X (#12)

The same game he played at LP.....

Wonder how many devices he has accounts on?

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-01-27   17:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#14)

did you ban gatlin

Yukon left

sniveling weirdo welcome bill board sign on

pathetic

all the real hot action is on breitbart - wnd

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-01-27   17:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: BorisY, necrophiliac (#16)

all the real hot action is on breitbart -

Your hot date has been dead for a few years, but have fun.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-27   18:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BorisY (#0) (Edited)

But God didn't answer those prayers. Why?

Your God, even if he is not a mythical creation, is much too concerned with other aspects of the entire vast universe to intercede in the inconsequential affairs of mankind. Learn to accept your own insignificance.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-27   18:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dead Culture Watch, Moderator X, Gilligan, hondo68, calcon1 (#15)

The same game he played at LP.....

Warble the same song, then harp on how they're all unfairly misunderstood or "hacked"?

Wonder how many devices he has accounts on?

Dunno...but our fine feathered friend's insistance upon breaking the rules and hustling sockpuppets is kind of pathetic and dishonorable.

LF's honorable conservative constituency frowns upon this sort of thing.

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-27   18:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: BorisY (#16)

did you ban gatlin

Yukon left

sniveling weirdo welcome bill board sign on

pathetic

all the real hot action is on breitbart - wnd

Are you a canary, Boris?

What's the LF communitah supposed to do when its denizen are asked merely to abide in the rules and post from a single account? Is that so hard to do?

Remember when these same canaries -- especially your hero yuklown -- claimed he wuz "hacked"? And blamed others for his mishap? Is it possible these multi-account canaries "hacked" themselves or were lying? Both heros of yours -- yuklown and now Gilligan -- have been busted with multiple accounts. So stop sniveling.

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-27   18:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: rlk, redleghunter (#18) (Edited)

Your God, even if he is not a mythical creation, is much too concerned with other aspects of the entire vast universe to intercede in the inconsequential affairs of mankind.

You're thinking in the finite terms of a human. The Infinite has no such limitations.

Have you ever attempted to meet God halfway? Or just erected The Wall so that He could not penetrate your heart?

Did you ever consider the tangiable cases of intercession in which the Creator/God has indeed affected in the affairs of individual and collective mankind? We have at least one such poster here who can attest to the power of prayer of an otherwise inexplicable medical miracle.

You will see him at long last. Suspecting that he might not be a "mythical creature" is a psotive step in the right direction. What would it take to ask Him to reveal Himself to you? What have you to lose? (nothing) To gain? (everything)

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-27   18:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#20)

you're hacked if you buy all that train load of steaming crap

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-01-27   18:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator, Clyven, tater, I'm Back, Vermin Exterminator, Gatlin, Transgenic Sockpuppets (#19)

hustling sockpuppets

Transgenic sockpuppets!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-27   18:47:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#21) (Edited)

What would it take to ask Him to reveal Himself to you? What have you to lose?

------------------------

What have I to lose? Answer: My disciplined mind. People such as you have already lost theirs.

Everything pleasant that happens that you don't understand you arbitrarly label a God's miracle. Catastrophic things of much more importance such as the killing of millions at Auschwitz or 1,400 years of islamic barbarism, you overlook. There is no consistency to your arguments. You holy rollers are controlled by what psychiatrists term an encapsulated psychosis that has a self referencing element of circular reasoning based in perpetuated mythology which you attempt to sell to other people. Your reasoning is as warped and crazy as that of the God damned muslims. Lay down your silly mythology. Get off it. Grow up!

rlk  posted on  2015-01-27   19:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Moderator X (#13) (Edited)

Gatlin  posted on  2015-01-27   19:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin (#25)

Busted again, eh "Tater"?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-01-27   20:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#2)

Matt more "gets it." Prayers up brother Matt and let God continue to conform you to the Image of His Son Jesus Christ.

The angels in heaven rejoice!

Where's Meg?

" For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-27   22:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: rlk, GarySpFc, liberator (#18)

Your God, even if he is not a mythical creation, is much too concerned with other aspects of the entire vast universe to intercede in the inconsequential affairs of mankind. Learn to accept your own insignificance.

Your posts show you are well educated. I would recommend a couple of books from Simon Greenleaf for your reading pleasure.

The Testimony of the Evangelists: The Gospels Examined by the Rules of Evidence

Now public domain:

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/jesus/greenleaf.html

About the author:

In 1833, Greenleaf was named to the Royall professorship, and in 1846 succeeded Judge Joseph Story as Dane professor of law at Harvard University. Greenleaf contributed extensively to the development of Harvard Law School, including expansion of the Harvard Law Library. He was retained as chief counsel by the Warren Bridge group in the US Supreme Court case Charles River Bridge v. Warren Bridge 36 U.S. 420 (1837),[2] where the case laid down the rule that public contracts must be construed in favor of states.

In 1848, Greenleaf retired from his active duties, and became professor emeritus. After being for many years president of the Massachusetts Bible Society, he died at Cambridge. Greenleaf's well-known work, a Treatise on the Law of Evidence, is considered a classic of American jurisprudence. Greenleaf prepared the original constitution of the Colony of Liberia.

" For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-27   23:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: rlk (#24) (Edited)

What have I to lose? Answer: My disciplined mind. People such as you have already lost theirs.

Why do you equate "discipline" with rigid closemindedness? Why do you fear letting go? You are readily dismissing what is the obvious (to others) -- that an entity much greater than us (God) exists...and compels us to account to him after this life.

Have you considered the possibility that some external spiritual force is actually "God-Blocking" you? Or In a strange twist, that this self "discipline" you refer to is actually the loss of control of your own free will?

More self-examination: Do you consider your "mind" your physical brain, or a transcendendant mode of metaphysical consciousness detached from the physical?

If it's the latter, you've conceded that "you" and your essense are not connected to your physical shell. And if your mind is not connected to your physical shell, then where does your consciousness or essense or energy go upon death? "Discipline" (in your case, "pride,") is not a virtue if you reject your Maker. It's a curse.

Everything pleasant that happens that you don't understand you arbitrarly label a God's miracle.

Uh, no, that's you generalizing.

Catastrophic things of much more importance such as the killing of millions at Auschwitz or 1,400 years of islamic barbarism, you overlook.

Here you are, again circling the wagon of your rigid "consciousness" with a false sense of rationale and reason. Christians do NOT overlook tragedy, barbarism, and catastrophy. We not only acknowledge it in this world, we acknowledge the source of it: Free Will and the Father of Evil.

There is no consistency to your arguments.

From your perspective I suppose that's true -- especially if you are unable to understand the premise beyond your physical world and laws. There exists a world AND laws beyond this material world. Your "discipline" handicaps and prevents you from escaping beyond your false material world paradigm.

You holy rollers are controlled by what psychiatrists term an encapsulated psychosis that has a self referencing element of circular reasoning based in perpetuated mythology which you attempt to sell to other people.

Like those psychiatrists who are hiding their own psychoses behind their university degrees and certificates, you're projecting. It is YOU who are controlled by the circular reasoning that enslaves you to the myth that "What cannot be seen, cannot exist"; That the entire physical universe -- matter, life, conscious thought, essense -- have NO Creator, NO Designer, NO Purpose, and NO Final Justice, NO Final Reward. That my friend is illogical and nonsensical.

Stop sulking because The Almighty won't kiss your azz and be summoned before you as though you were some King or Prince. Unshackle yourself from your ego and prideful self. Open your heart and tear down your wall. Demonstrate some real disciplne and humble yourself before your Creator. Before it's too late.

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-27   23:15:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: redleghunter (#27)

Matt more "gets it." Prayers up brother Matt and let God continue to conform you to the Image of His Son Jesus Christ.

The angels in heaven rejoice!

Amen!

Where's Meg?

Physically or mentally? ;-)

Liberator  posted on  2015-01-27   23:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: rlk, GarySpFc, liberator (#24)

There is no consistency to your arguments. You holy rollers are controlled by what psychiatrists term an encapsulated psychosis that has a self referencing element of circular reasoning based in perpetuated mythology which you attempt to sell to other people.

This type of "circular reasoning?"

Matthew 5:44-46King James Version (KJV)

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?(KJV)

Pretty solid.

" For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-27   23:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#25)

I deleted myself today, hope no one thought that mad cuzin of mine, the mod did it...lol

("We sing about God because we believe in Him. We are not trying to offend anybody, but the evidence that we have seen of Him in our small little lives trumps your opinion about whether or not He exists". ~ Jeff Foxworthy)

Murron  posted on  2015-01-28   0:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: redleghunter (#28)

Your posts show you are well educated. I would recommend a couple of books from Simon Greenleaf for your reading pleasure.

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More crackpots to the attempted rescue of undisciplined belief in mythology incorporating unproven assumptions. I can't spend the remainder of my life diverted into recommended reading of belief based upon emotionally held assumptions.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-28   7:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: rlk (#33)

Atheism is a choice. What choice isn't driven by an emotional need?

"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-28   7:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: redleghunter (#31) (Edited)

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you

An excellent recipe for oblivious neurosis. Did it help the people being fed into Nazi extermination camps or the people minding their own business being descended upon and slaughtered by hundreds of thousands by Malmoud in his attack upon the Hindus in India? Did it help the 10,000 Christians killed to impose islam in Indonesia?

You love the bastards in your twisted way under stupid biblical commands. Leave me out of it.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-28   7:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: redleghunter (#31)

Pretty solid.

Pretty weak.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-28   7:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Palmdale (#34)

What choice isn't driven by an emotional need?

I have an emotional need for rationality in the world in which I live.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-28   8:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: rlk (#35) (Edited)

stupid biblical commands.

Stupid?

The caeSARean pacification of the McSheeple was diabolically brilliant.

The real Jesus Christ drove the money changers off the pyramid steps. The Roman pedophile state-establishment perverted the religion named after Him into obedient milquetoast.

VxH  posted on  2015-01-28   8:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Palmdale (#34)

What choice isn't driven by an emotional need?

When a cancer chooses to consume its host.

VxH  posted on  2015-01-28   8:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: rlk (#37)

I have an emotional need for rationality in the world in which I live.

More than that, I think. Evangelical atheism isn't born of rationality.

"The biggest mistake that libertarians make is the way they view government and private sectors. Government is the root of all evil, and the private sector is the source of all good. Libertarians have never figured out that people are the same whether in the government or in the private sector." --Paul Craig Roberts

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-28   8:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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