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Title: The Problem Isn’t Islam … It’s ALL Religious Fundamentalism
Source: washingtonsblog
URL Source: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014 ... amentalists-just-muslisms.html
Published: Aug 26, 2014
Author: washingtonsblog
Post Date: 2015-01-20 15:49:51 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 23850
Comments: 78

While the Koran Calls for Violence, The Bible Is Even Worse … Calling for Genocide

Christians and Jews rightly point out that the Koran is a violent text which calls on Muslims to attack “unbelievers”.

But they fail to see that the Bible is at least as violent.

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#1. To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#0)

Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism, just as most Christians condemn terrorism by fundamentalist Christians and most Jews condemn terrorism by fundamentalist Jews.

As Christian writer and psychiatrist M. Scott Peck – who served as the United States Army’s Assistant Chief Psychiatry and Neurology Consultant to the Surgeon General of the Army, and held the rank of Lieutenant Colonel – explained, there are different stages of spiritual maturity. Fundamentalism – whether it be Muslim, Christian, Jewish or Hindu fundamentalism – is an immature stage of development.

Indeed, a Christian fundamentalist who kills others in the name of religion is much more similar to a Muslim – or Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist – fundamentalist who kills others in the name of his religion than to a Christian who peacefully fights for justice and truth, helps the poor, or serves to bring hope to the downtrodden.

Postscript: Sadly, the U.S. and our allies are making matters worse by backing the most barbaric, crazed, fundamentalist Muslims … and overthrowing the moderate Arabs.

"Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism?"

Doesn't gatlin find that debatable?

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-20   17:28:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tpaine (#1)

Indeed, a Christian fundamentalist who kills others in the name of religion

Care to give us a few thousand examples of Christians killing for Christ? I can think of none.

Putting Born Again Christians in the same league with muslims is so incorrect as to be sickening. If US Christians decided to do to muslims in the US what muslims in the muslim word do to unarmed Christians in their land, there would have been a zero muslim count at the last census, but since we haven't, your premise is proved asinine.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-01-20   17:32:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BobCeleste (#2)

examples of Christians killing for Christ? I can think of none.


Knights Templar


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Indeed, the Nazis, the Norwegian mass murderer and many others have committed terrorism in the name of Christianity. Adolph Hitler professed to be a Christian, and churches in Nazi Germany mainly supported the Nazis. .....

Most Muslims condemn Islamic terrorism, just as most Christians condemn terrorism by fundamentalist Christians and most Jews condemn terrorism by fundamentalist Jews.

......

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-20   18:26:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: hondo68 (#10) (Edited)

Just because a person, group or even denomination call them selves Christians does not make them Christians, to be a Christian means to be both a follower and o 0beyer of Christ.

Shortly I am going to do a thought entitled "Remember me". It may help separate the Christian from the the likes of those you cited.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-01-21   11:30:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: BobCeleste, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#64) (Edited)

Just because a person, group or even denomination call them selves Christians does not make them Christians, to be a Christian means to be both a follower and o 0beyer of ...

The same may be said of Islam, no?

Bottom line... attempting to use religion as an excuse for bad behavior is despicable, IMO.


The neo-lib/neo-con alliance. Different wings, same bird (Satan/D&R party).

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-21   11:47:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: hondo68 (#67)

Don't they both claim to be Catholics?

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-21   16:36:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: CZ82 (#69)

Don't they both claim to be Catholics?

Hillary is supposed to be Methodist.

McCain: " Baptist congregant
(brought up Episcopalian)"

They both need a good Catholic exorcist, IMO.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-21   17:13:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#75. To: hondo68 (#71)

Hillary is supposed to be Methodist.

Hillary Clinton's Religious Background & Beliefs: What Does Clinton Believe? Religious Beliefs of Hillary Clinton Affect Positions on Religion, Secularism

By Austin Cline, Agnosticism/Atheism Expert

Hillary Clinton grew up in a Methodist household, she taught Methodist Sunday school like her mother, is a member of a Senate prayer group, and regularly attends the Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington. Hillary Clinton can be placed in the moderate to liberal wing of American Christianity, but she appears to share a number of attitudes with more conservative American Christians. Clinton's liberalism is a relative matter: she's more liberal than many in America, and certainly more liberal than the Christian Right, but she has a long way to go to support truly progressive stances when it comes to religious debates.

The United Methodist Church is made up of both conservative and liberal congregations. The Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington which Hillary Clinton regularly attends describes itself as a "reconciling congregation." According to them, this means aside from not making any distinctions about race, ethnicity, or gender, they also invite "gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender persons to share our faith, our community life and our ministries." The denomination as whole, however, regards homosexuality as "incompatible with Christian teaching" and opposes not only legalizing gay marriage, but even solemnizing same-sex civil unions.

Abortion is formally frowned upon by the United Methodist Church, but the denomination nevertheless opposes criminalizing abortion as a medical procedure. This makes it technically pro-choice rather than pro-life. America's temperance movement was once strongly supported by Methodist congregations and even today, the United Methodist Church formally affirms the importance of abstinence form alcohol in all forms — it's not even used during communion. The United Methodist Church takes a similarly strong stance against gambling in any form, including state lotteries.

For a while, the United Methodist Church was an important pillar of the Social Gospel Movement, a Christian social movement which sought to transform American politics and society along lines consistent with the Christian gospel. Hillary Clinton has stated that she believes it was an error for the Methodists to focus so much on social transformation because this took attention away from "questions of personal salvation and individual faith."

There is no evidence that Hillary Clinton's religiosity is superficial or an affectation; her behavior is consistent with her professed beliefs and she has explained more than once how important faith is for herself personally and her family. She has also said that prayer - trying to communicate with a god - is important in her life. The Christian Right, though, has tried to portray her as being just the opposite.

Radio show host Michael Savage, for example, has described her the most godless member of the Senate:

Then you have Hillary Clinton, the most Godless woman in the Senate, right out of the Marxist playbook, speaking at the National Hispanic Prayer Breakfast, so as all politicians, suddenly she becomes religious. And here she is opening up her speech to the Hispanics who actually believe in God...

Jerry Falwell once went further by declaring that she would energize the Republican "base" of conservative evangelicals even more than if Lucifer were running as the Democratic candidate for president. Demonizing Hillary Clinton transfers responsibility from the people who hate Hillary Clinton so much onto Hillary herself - if she's demonic, then people have no sane choice but to hate her. Furthermore, this ensures that there is no reason to hold back in attacks on her: you negotiate and compromise with political equals, not with demons.

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