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Title: Tipping Point: 50% of Americans reject the D&R terrorist party
Source: Ben Swann
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67rfMbw-3e0
Published: Nov 20, 2014
Author: Ben Swann
Post Date: 2014-11-20 12:18:37 by Hondo68
Keywords: 50 percent of Americans, REJECT, Republicans and Democrats
Views: 15300
Comments: 53


Poster Comment:

We're up to half of all Americans being, pro-Liberty & pro-American!

God bless America, and a pox on the Republican and Democrat tyrants.

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Unfortunaely, at this point in time 50% rejection means nothing. That number would have to be closer to 80% -- and THAT just isn't going to happen. The real problem have been the half of GOPe who've been co-opted, pimped, and compromised by the actual policy-makers -- The Shadow-Goob Syndicate of the New World Order.

The ENTIRE Dem Party is for all intensives purposes are an America-sabotaging neo-Marxist/Fascist Party.

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-20   13:11:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Liberator (#1)

The ENTIRE Dem Party is for all intensives purposes are an America-sabotaging neo-Marxist/Fascist Party.

And the Republican Party is the party of aristocratic imperialism, which over time destroys the lives of everybody else, by relentlessly concentrating wealth at the very top, and by a willingness to use war to gain imperial control over foreign resources.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20   13:27:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

And the Republican Party is the party of aristocratic imperialism, which over time destroys the lives of everybody else, by relentlessly concentrating wealth at the very top, and by a willingness to use war to gain imperial control over foreign resources.

That maybe the case in 50% of the Pubbies, but 100% of the Dems can be accused of exactly the SAME thing.

Why are you dismissing the fact that 100% of the Dems are actively plotting, planning, and executing the destruction of the USA (as we know it?)

Moreover, who do you think has prevented the USA from drowning in total Tyranny and Fascism? ANSWER: 50% of the Republicans. Or do you disagree with that assessment?

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-20   13:33:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#4)

Why are you dismissing the fact that 100% of the Dems are actively plotting, planning, and executing the destruction of the USA

For the same reason that I am not including Kim Jong Un in my analysis. Democrats are babykilling sodomites. Of course they're going to be evil. They have to be STOPPED.

But I also know that the Republicans are never going to stop them. There have been 41 election cycles since FDR won the Presidency for the first time. In many of them Republicans have won power. But in all 41 cycles, the Democrats have advanced their agenda and held onto their gains. This is because the Republicans don't really oppose it, they just pretend to.

So, what I see is that the Republican Party has managed to make itself a sort of "energy trap" for conservatives. The Democrats are bad, and the Republicans pretend to be the antidote to bad. Really they're the enablers of bad because they suck all of the oxygen out of the Right.

Also, there are plenty of Christians in the Democrat party who really don't like the babykilling or the sodomy, BUT they (correctly) see the Republicans as the party of the plutocrats, and vote for Democrats for the same reason you're voting for Republicans: "the lesser of two evils".

Neither party is the lesser of two evils. They're both evil. What is needed is a NEW party that actually represents people who are not babykilling sodomites, but who also understand the need for a strong social safety net and economic regulation. We need Christian democracy, not libertine socialism or plutocracy. And we can't GET Christian democracy as long as Christians are divided into two evil parties and neutralized by both.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20   13:44:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

There have been 41 election cycles since FDR won the Presidency for the first time. In many of them Republicans have won power. But in all 41 cycles, the Democrats have advanced their agenda and held onto their gains. This is because the Republicans don't really oppose it, they just pretend to.

Since FDR's string of socialist victories, the GOP "leadership" has ALWAYS coincidentally been comprised of Rockefeller elites, RINOs, and Globalists. Reagan's victories were absolute anomalies, though the Senate and House leaderships remained firmly Rockefeller stooges.

The Dems have steadily advanced their subversive agenda across the board because....The entire Republican Party has been divided between the controlling Rockefeller globalist faction and the America First conservative faction. The Rockefeller faction sides with the Dems on major fiscal and social issues.

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-20   14:15:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#12)

The Dems have steadily advanced their subversive agenda

It isn't subversive. It's out in the open. They want full blown secular socialism, and they are implementing it over time through their control of the political process. The Party of Plutocrats, the GOP, hasn't stopped them in large part because they don't WANT to stop them. The plutocrats only want to SLOW DOWN the Democrats, so that they can reposition themselves to get the contracts and enjoy the monetary gains from the Democrat policy.

That's why the Republicans never reverse anything. They resist, half-assedly, long enough for the plutocrats to get the contracts, then they cave and defend the new policy as an "unfortunate thing that can't be helped". The Democrats are out in the open. The plutocrats who really control the Republican Party are the ones with a subversive agenda. The rank-and-file middle class Right are the dupes in this all.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20   14:32:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vicomte13 (#20)

It isn't subversive. It's out in the open. They want full blown secular socialism, and they are implementing it over time through their control of the political process. The Party of Plutocrats, the GOP, hasn't stopped them in large part because they don't WANT to stop them. The plutocrats only want to SLOW DOWN the Democrats, so that they can reposition themselves to get the contracts and enjoy the monetary gains from the Democrat policy.

Yes, I agree with your assessment. What I do not agree with is your opinion that the GOP has had a consensus of opinion. They don't currently and NEVER had. I keep on trying to impress this point upon you -- conservative Pubbies do NOT and have not ever controlled the GOP's agenda, or its leadership (other than Reagan)...

Ergo, 100% of the Dems + 50% of the GOPe = 100% advancement of anti-Constitutional Dem-Socialism-Statism-Globalism. THAT equation is exactly why the Republicans never reverse anything.

The Democrats are out in the open. The plutocrats who really control the Republican Party are the ones with a subversive agenda. The rank-and-file middle class Right are the dupes in this all.

Exactly. Unfortunately, the GOP is a split, divided & conquered party. The Dems have remained a cohesive army of subversives.

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-20   14:42:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#24) (Edited)

I keep on trying to impress this point upon you -- conservative Pubbies do NOT and have not ever controlled the GOP's agenda, or its leadership (other than Reagan)...

I keep trying to impress this point on you: they never have, and they never will.

They didn't under Reagan either. Would Poppy Bush really have been Reagan's VP choice? They stood Reagan up in front of a political grave and told him that if he wanted to be President, that Bush was going to be his running mate.

And Reagan put into place plenty of policies that advanced the oligarchy. Twas Reagan who tried to gut Social Security. He got burned badly enough by the Democrats that he stood down on that.

Reagan gave us illegal alien amnesty, round 1. Obama will give us round 2.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-20   16:41:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

They [conservative Pubbies] didn't [control the GOP] under Reagan either.

Isn't that what I'd just explained to you? Reagan may have been the only non-elite, non-Ivy League tool, non-CFR, non-Mason Prez to be President in the 20th century.

Would Poppy Bush really have been Reagan's VP choice? They stood Reagan up in front of a political grave and told him that if he wanted to be President, that Bush was going to be his running mate.

True, Poppy Bush was foisted upon The Gipper as VP by the Rockefeller-controlled GOP. (Just goes to further reinforce opposing faction of the GOP, and who actually has been at fault.) Despite the weaselly Bush waiting his turn, Reagan STILL created a national pride, economic confidence and opportunity, and peace in his time. You DO remember the 1980s, right? ZERO wars (except for the Grenada skirmish.)

I'm surprised you didn't pay more attention throughout the 1980s.

And Reagan put into place plenty of policies that advanced the oligarchy. Twas Reagan who tried to gut Social Security. He got burned badly enough by the Democrats that he stood down on that.

So Reagan didn't quite top off the beer mug. Big deal. Considering saddled with a Dem Congress, what Reagan pulled off; as well as creating as much of his vision for America was miraculous. And at least he tried to "reform" NOT "gut" SS. For that he ought to have been given a medal. NOW look at the bureaucratic leviathan he despised.

To be fair, the second half of RR's admin was infested and sabotaged by Rockefeller globalists. His trust was betrayed as he was plotted against by BushCo's GOPe brethren.

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-20   21:47:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#34)

This is what you're left with: telling yourself fables about Reagan while everything you believe in slides down the chute into the dumpster.

You're a Republican loyalist and will remain one all of your life. Reagan did the GOP good service in that regard.

So console yourself with his faded glory, because that's all you will ever have. At best, Reagan was your Agincourt. But Agincourt was followed by Patay. You may choose to ignore Patay, and Orleans and Beaugency and the rest, but the map reflects who actually won that war in the end. The English won a battle and wrote plays about it. The French won the war and have ruled every village in dispute for the 550 years since.

Way back up the threads lies the origin of these discussions: the assertion, by Republican loyalists such as yourself, that a vote for a third party candidate, or a non-vote, or a vote for anybody but the Republican candidate, is a vote for Hillary.

You're not going to change your mind on that, because in the end, the Republican Party is your home, and you won't leave it.

Which means that, from your perspective, I'm voting for Hillary. Of course I will not actually vote for Hillary at all. Nor will I vote for your Republican. You believe that your conservatives will take over the GOP. I believe that this will never even come close to happen, and I will waste no time in the fantasy that it will. The Republican brand is corrupt and tainted, and I won't associate with it.

Which means that I'm "For Hillary", in your logic. You've taken up the George Bush line "If you're not with us, you're against us." Very well then, on your words, I am against you. I am against you because your Republican Party offers nothing good. It is totally corrupt and its policies are evil and are destroying the country. You have to be stopped, just like the Democrats have to be stopped.

There are not enough of me to stop you, so this war is lost. Therefore, I leave you and the Democrats in possession of the field, and observe that the Democrats have always won, and will continue to win. They are the stronger horse, and smarter, and they win. I won't ally with them, but I can certainly see who is going to win the battle.

In this American political version of the "100 Years War", the Republicans are the English, the Democrats are the French, the tide of history is with the French. The Republicans won some battles and have their handful of heroes they can write about in future years. But the Democrats hold the ground and will win in the end.

In fact, just last night Obama's battering ram busted open the castle door. For now the illegals will proliferate, and will gradually move towards citizenship, and once they vote, its over for the GOP.

Obamacare may be modified here and there, but ultimately there will be government health care.

Gun rights will gradually be titrated away.

It's just a matter of time.

I would like to see a different outcome, but folks like you have divided your efforts - you want a certain outcome AND you want it to be the Republicans who bear the standard. You can only have one of those things, though, and in the end, you've chosen the Republican standard.

So stand and die under it. It doesn't represent me. Morally, it represents great evil. I will stand with you under a different banner for common ideals, but if the price of resisting Democrats is to stand under the Republican banner, I will go home to the farm. Enjoy your fight for your Republican flag. It's not my flag and I will not fight for it or serve it, or ally with it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-21   8:59:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Vicomte13 (#35)

You're a Republican loyalist and will remain one all of your life. Reagan did the GOP good service in that regard.

So console yourself with his faded glory, because that's all you will ever have.

Again -- My assessment of your broad-sweeping erroneous generalization of my position is that you reading comprehension is woefully lacking.

a) I am "loyal" to God.

b) ONLY the Republican Party supports righteous issues.

c) The Dem Party represents ZERO righteous issues; worse than that, they represent satanic ideals.

d) Ergo, EVERY Republican candidate by default are presumed by large to be better representative than ANY Dems. Are there a couple of exceptions? Perhaps.

e) The 1980s was a decade of peace, hope, prosperity, and a glimmer of the best of America -- because of Ronald Reagan. Yes, THAT "faded glory" is the best we will ever see in our lifetime, or in the foreseeable future.

You're not going to change your mind on that, because in the end, the Republican Party is your home, and you won't leave it. Which means that, from your perspective, I'm voting for Hillary.

Wrong again. X2.

You've taken up the George Bush line "If you're not with us, you're against us." Very well then, on your words, I am against you. I am against you because your Republican Party offers nothing good. It is totally corrupt and its policies are evil and are destroying the country. You have to be stopped, just like the Democrats have to be stopped.

You're "against" the reality of the current situation. I didn't create it. You didn't create it. And btw, if you can't find any viable, profound differences between Republicans and Democrats (especially now), you're either blind, ignorant, or too stubborn to concede the obvious.

You're mistaken by conflating my opinion with Dubya Bush;You're also mistaken by presuming my support of certain Republican candidates to be an endorsement of the Republican leadership, the controlling Rockefeller wing, and the GOP as a whole. Finally, there IS a difference between a group of pirates who steal your bicycle, and the pirates who steal your car....as well as bicycle. Opting out of the battle of the political reality of the times doesn't help Christian issues; It aids the hastening of our demise. Stomping your feet because a American Christian-Socialist monarchy isn't in place is futile.

Liberator  posted on  2014-11-21   11:41:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Liberator (#39)

Well, here we are. You've told me in no uncertain terms that it's the Republicans or nothing. I've replied in no uncertain terms that that means it's nothing.

Obama's amnesty provides us with a straight up test on a critical issue.

I predict that Obama will win. He doesn't have to. The Republicans do, in fact, have the power to stop him. But stopping him would come at a PRICE, and the Republican Party will never pay that price. They won't pay it because what Obama has done does not REALLY hit them in their vital interests. Therefore, they won't fight to the death over it.

That's my prediction, and it perfectly follows what I believe Republicans to be.

The situation provides us a good short-term test, too: Obama is not delaying anything. He has given the orders and is proceeding directly to his objectives. The Republicans have only two tools at their disposal to stop him: the Supreme Court - which they have controlled continuously since 1969 - and the continuing resolution on the budget, which they can block in the House now, and control from both houses come January. That means government shutdown, which Obama will ignore. The only way to STOP him is to let the government STAY shut and unfunded, all the way to default if that's what it takes.

So, now we watch as things develop.

If the Republicans are what I say they are, Obama will win. The Supreme Court won't strike him down, the government won't be shut down. Amnesty will be granted.

Vicomte13  posted on  2014-11-22   17:34:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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